No problem, glad it was useful 👍

Thank you! Glad it was useful 👍

No problem, glad it was useful 👍

fpsvr is an excellent tool, hope you find it helpful 👍

Awesome, enjoy your Quest 3! 👍

No problem, glad it was useful 👍

I agree !

Thanks, I really would love to do more videos, and am hoping that as the channel grows I have more options to start doing this more full time than in my spare time. I have considered covering wider tech, and I probably will at some point, thanks for the comment 😀

@@DayDreamerVR I could gather you have a busy life like everyone but just my opinion if you upload more and review more tech, you'll be huge.

@@willchongwei Thank you 😄

Thanks, the recording on this seemed to go well, sometimes I can record it and play it back and not like the pace or how upbeat I am. More videos to come so thanks for subscribing 👍

Thanks, hope it has been helpful! 👍

Thanks for the feedback 👍

The settings might affect running a flat screen game over the desktop view, but the Steam VR environment takes very little to run it so it shouldn't have that much of an impact. If you are experiencing latency or other issues I would keep the overlay setting I mention as High, but then drop the target bandwidth and see if that helps. Hope you manage to get it sorted 👍

@@DayDreamerVR Thanks heaps 👍

Thank you, looking forward to seeing how I can develop the channel over the coming months 👍

Thanks 😀

For best image quality you need the resolution set at around 3000 x 3000 due to the process the software does to correct for the shape of the lenses (you lose some pixels in this process). The problem is with steam link is that the encode resolution has a fixed limit which is a bit lower than needed, this means only so many pixels are sent to the headset even if you set the resolution much higher on steam. So if you set it as high as 3000 x 3000, it will be more demanding on your PC but won't send that resolution to the headset, giving you almost no visual benefit. Virtual Desktop can send more pixels to the headset, and should therefore give the best image with the Quest 3, or Oculus Link will also be pretty good. Setting the resolution higher in PCVR headsets like the PICO Neo 3 Link does have the full benefit. Steam Link however does use fixed foveated rendering which means more pixels are in the centre of your view than the outside edges, some people prefer this as it helps reduce latency, some people hate the slightly blurrier edges.

No problem, glad it was useful 👍

100% in steam will be whatever you set the resolution to on the oculus slider. They haven't however increased the resolution in the oculus software, so the maximum resoution in the oculus software isn't quite providing the full resolution to the panel, but, the oculus setting does set the encode resolution. So 100% in steam is the same res as in the oculus software, and increasing the res in steam does increase the encode res to the headset, so you are still not quite getting the full resolution to the Quiest 3. Increasing the resolution above 100% in steam does help slightly though, as it gives a more accurate sample when it then converts it to the encode res, but ideally meta need to increase the maximum resolution in the oculus software to allow the full resolution to be provided to the Quest 3 when it is encoded. Hope that makes sense 😬

That's weird, I don't know why they wouldn't be showing, if I figure it out/find anything I'll update 👍

@@DayDreamerVR I'm 99% sure it's the Desktop+ app in Steam. After some Googlin' I found that result. I now have it installed and have those desktop icons (and a plus symbol). Definitely worth mentioning, perhaps also along with the Dashboard > "VR Dashboard on System Button" setting to "On" so that pressing the little 3-bars button will allow the user to open the main Steam Link page that has those desktop buttons for very quick access to your computer. 👍

@@gregariousjb thanks for the update, that's good to know, and I'm glad you got it sorted 👍

Interesting thought, I don't quite know how it works, but the load is roughly the same for steamvr no matter whether you use airlink, or steam link 👍

So i don't know exactly what the limit of H265 with the Quest 3 is, but VD set a maximum of 200Mbps for h265, and steam link sets the max at 350. The higher you go the more latency there is as you have mentioned. I don't get any stuttering at 350 on steam link on a standard WiFi 6 router, but this can be impacted by numerous factors (interference, number of devices on the band, distance from the router etc). Steam link, under vr settings has the option for a performance overlay, if you turn this on and then look at your desktop in steam you can see the performance (bitrate is at the very top left) and I then pin the desktop view to my left controller. Then checking in a game such as Half Life Alyx, it tends to vary mostly from about 290 to 320, but from a quick couple of minutes playing I did see it very briefly go up to 338. In menus etc it seemed to stay around 290Mbps. With steam link, it uses foveated rendering so your peripheral view has less detail, which brings the latency lower than would be expected for 350Mbps. Hope that helps 👍

​​@@DayDreamerVRinteresting you mentioned you seen yours go above 250 in the debug graph I think your mentioning? I don't see it and someone else online doesn't see it either. They also mentioned they don't see it go above 250. Maybe just went you start out or loading but then mine levels off below 250 slightly. And I get a slight micro when I'm walking in alyx (maybe your teleporting) at 350. I'm using Asus 7800 wifi 6e, 6ghz channels. Curious what all your other steam settings are set to? I also assume your just on 5ghz? With all the wifi issues on quest 3 though I'm just really not sure. There's 80 pages on the quest forum with latency issues.

​@@DayDreamerVRyeah really weird I see it go above just briefly after loading but when it settles in game at least two sections I seen it sits below 250 slightly. And the weird extra microstutter it adds when walking in alyx (not teleporting). I also have a 4080.

​@@DayDreamerVRI can also do 600mbps ok h264 over airlink for oculus games so really not sure on this one.

@@montys8237 yeah, H264 can even go higher, you can set it to 960Mbps by copying and pasting the text "960" into the bitrate section in the Oculus debug tool.

So VR should be a smooth experience in the headset, just like on the PC. So you are using a usb cable to connect to the PC through Oculus Link. I would get fpsvr, and then when your are in the Oculus Link home page (before opening a game, open Steam VR, and then open your game from in Steam VR. This way you can look at/open fpsVR and look at the performance stats. You need to make sure that your CPU and GPU are managing to meet the frame time (graph in fpsvr should be green). You also need to check in fpsvr that your gpu and cpu usage isn't maxed out near 90-100%. You can also see if any frames are dropped. With all of this info you can then adjust your resolution and frame rate so your system can cope with it. You should also test your usb link in the Oculus app, hopefully it confirms you are using USB 3.0 (that the cable and USB port are 3.0) and the connection speed. I hope this helps and hope you manage to sort it 👍

@@DayDreamerVR the cable is the original oculus cable and my pc says it’s 3.0. But the app says that it is not 3.0 but I am using a small usb adapter to be able to connect it to my pc. I ordered a longer cable that already has a usb but won’t be in until Friday. I still didn’t think an adapter would change anything though.

@@MagicalAlpaca Yeah, unfortunately if the adapter isn't 3.0 then it will reduce it to whatever USB standard it is (2.0/1.0). In your Oculus install folder, you should find a tool called the Oculus Debug Tool, if you open that then you can also select performance graphs at the bottom of the tool. This will also help you to see what is going on performance wise. I hope the cable manages to sort it for you though 👍

That's weird, I don't know why it's doing that, if I manage to find anything out I'll update 👍

Oh, i just needed to reboot the headset after changing the 120hz setting on in quest. Now it's working as intended. @@DayDreamerVR

@@hashturner awesome, glad you got it sorted, enjoy 👍

I would recommend deleting steam VR in steam, and reinstall it, and hope that resets your settings, it shouldn't affect any games etc, hope that helps 👍

It has been suggested that it was because my ethernet connection was set to "private" and it needs to be set as "public." I have changed this settings and will be testing it over the coming days, hope that helps 🤞

@@DayDreamerVR Hm, thanks! It does not make sense to switch my local home network to being public. I'll wait for a fix from them then.

Hi, sorry you've been having this issue, I've done some searching online but can't find the same issue or a solution. It might be worth asking on a discord channel such as MRTV's Quest Pro one which can be found on the link below. Hope you manage to get it sorted 👍 discord.com/invite/NxaERZdt

Thanks 😀 I would probably still stick to the recommended routers in the virtual desktop discord as they are tried and tested for wireless PCVR 👍 (I tried the opal one though and would personally stay away from it as I didn't get good performance for signal. I don't use one on this list, I have the ASUS TUF Gaming AX3000 V2 and it works well. From VD Discord: The following routers have been reported to work reliably from a number of users. Sole/Upgrade (AX) - Asus RT-AX86U ($300 US) Dedicated (AXE - Wifi 6e *) - TP-Link AXE5400/AXE75 ($160-$200) Dedicated (AX) - Netgear WAX202 ($60 US) Portable (AC) - Opal GL-SFT1200 ($50 US) Dedicated (AC) - TP-Link Archer C6 or A6 ($40 US) TP-Link AX and Huawei routers have been known to have issues we are unable to identify. Higher end TP-Link AX/AXE routers not listed here may work well but as with any router not on this list, should be considered untested.

@@DayDreamerVR Thank you very much!

I am in the U.S. and have Comcast Cable at 1,200 Mbps down. I have Comcast newest router-modem. Comcast routers when stock is set to auto choose which band to use. But I can split the bands to manually pick which band I need to use for the Quest 3. So I did and selected the 6 ghz band. Seems to work OK but I have not had my Quest 3 for long. No crashes using the Quest. But more time will tell if that holds up. Just thought I would mention it since so many people are on Comcast in the U.S. But I see no need to change my modem router at this time.

There are a couple of ways to check, but I'm guessing you are at maximum brightness already. First check your headset settings in the Quest home environment, check your brightness is maxed out. Then get OVR Advanced Settings in Steam (I think it is free?), then go into Steam Link, and launch OVR advanced settings. I think under one of the sections - might be video? there is a brightness slider, make sure it is at 100%. Hopefully one of those is turned down so you can turn it up. I haven't played VR Chat, I'm guessing there isn't a brightness slider in the game? If I think of anything else to check I will update. Hope you manage to sort it 👍

@@DayDreamerVR Brightness is set to max on the headset and in game. Even on my monitor it shows the proper brightness. but not on steam link. Imma try OVR advanced and see if it helps

@Breonnick Hope you manage to sort it 👍

Do you have the option to launch them in VR from your pc? If you do then launch it from there and it should transfer to your headset if you are in the steamvr environment 👍

There has been a potential fix suggested for the audio issues some people are experiencing: To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." Hope that helps 👍

They are very different devices. If you want to game, and use it for work or to watch content, then the Quest 3 is the best option. If you just want to use a device to have a larger screen, then the Xreal Air will do that 👍

I would recommend having a monitor, even just a basic one so you can launch steamvr if using steam link. Once you're connected to steam link, you can look at your desktop in steamvr and turn off your PC without needing to look at your actual monitor

Thanks, I use them as my autocue - and to hide the tiredness and bags under my eyes! 🤣

Strange, what gpu do you have? Also is this with the Quest 2, 3 or Pro? I think it's related to the encoder on your GPU though = I found this which indicates some gpu's are maxed out at 1024 help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/0E2C-406B-9135-38A4

​@@DayDreamerVR I have an rx 7900xt and a quest 2 im guessing that this is one of those gpus?

@teaock5636 From what I can see, all AMD gpu's are unfortunately limited to 1024, sorry I didn't put this in the video, I didn't know until now. I found it confirmed here www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=steamcommunity.com/app/353380/discussions/11/4038102936183716861/&ved=2ahUKEwi4w4DW7vuCAxWgQUEAHY0GBigQjjh6BAgWEAE&usg=AOvVaw1YNpmu2RQ0vynEJBzGUum8

@@DayDreamerVR Stupid question but, is it possible that this is fixable in a driver update or is this more of a hardware issue?

​@@teaock5636not a stupid question at all - unfortunately in this case it is a hardware limitation, so it not possible to get around it in any way

There has been a potential fix suggested for the audio issues some people are experiencing: To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." I don't know if this will also work with audio output, could be worth switching that to manual. Hope that helps 👍

I haven't experienced any issues, but there has been a potential fix suggested for the audio issues some people are experiencing: To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." Hope that helps 👍

For steam link I would probably put it around 1700x1700 (or roughly whatever that would be) for the resolution, 72fps, bitrate keep on auto, encode res keep on auto. Then see how that performs whilst monitoring something like fpsvr and put the resolution up or down depending on whether your PC is managing it. With a 1060 though I would probably recommend using virtual desktop, and turn on synchronous space warp. This will allow you headset to create half the frames, and your PC the other half, and you will be able to put your graphics settings higher. Hope that helps 👍

That's a really good point. So the frame time is how long it takes for your pc to generate an image. Then it needs to be Encoded by your gpu to make it small enough to send over WiFi. The it will be transferred via WiFi, and decoded by your headset. The total time it takes for your pc to create the image, and the time it takes to encode/send/decode is the total amount of latency. So when something happens, if your total latency from start to finish is 30ms,then you will see that something happen, 30ms after it actually did. When you finally get that image, if your pc is stable and the transferring is stable, then you should see each frame at regular intervals/spacing with around the same amount of latency 👍 hope that makes sense

@@DayDreamerVR brilliant, thank you. So GPU frame time is only one part of the overall latency from start to finish. I’m fairly new to VR, and it seems like an art to balancing everything, rather than an exact science. I’ve been using frame time as the guide for optimising fps performance and resolution, but perhaps I need to look at latency also, as this will include bitrate encoding size etc.

@@grantharper6409 There's alot to consider, but the frame times must be on time for a good experience (other wise frame can be inconsistent which can cause you to feel ill), other latency can be to your own preference. I really like making the most of image quality, so I put up with higher overall latency where I can. If you are doing competitive gaming or sim racing where reaction times can be critical, a lower overall latency can be more crucial, welcome to VR-enjoy 👍

I think if you take your headset off, on your desktop you will see the steamvr window which will show your headset is connected, I can't remember exactly how off the top of my head but if you right click the top left of that window on a menu icon or something it allows you to look at settings. If you go to the steamvr tab at the bottom, check what the settings are at. Can I confirm though that your pc is connected by an ethernet cable to your router, your headset is connected over 5GHz on your router, and you are close and in direct line of sight to your router? Also what gpu/pc specs do you have? Hope you manage to sort it 👍

Weird, I just took a look at mine on the Quest, and went to the store and it should stay "start" in the store once it is installed. Or as usual you should be able to find it in your app library on your headset. I take it you are refering to the app not being able to install within the headset and not trying to do it from your phone Oculus app store? Hope you manage to get it sorted 👍

@@DayDreamerVR Yeah i haven't been able to install it in my Quest 2 since there's no button for it. there's only this loading circle that just goes on forever.

@@NixTheNixied Some users have experienced an issue such as this when there Quest 2 isn't upto date. Check in the settings if there is a system update available for your Quest, and if you do, then updating might fix the issue - fingers crossed 🤞

@@DayDreamerVR You are right! I haven't touched my Quest 2 in 3 months, so i did the system update like you said and it finally worked. Thank you so muchh 😭

@@NixTheNixied amazing! Great news 👍

If you need motion smoothing or the superresolution upscaling then Virtual Desktop will be better, otherwise I would say that Steam Link is simpler to use, but it does have foveated rendering which makes the peripheral vision slightly less clear - but it improves your latency by doing that 👍

Awesome, glad it's working well for you 👍

Me too! Especially with steam having better prices on games than meta store. Being able to run this makes it much more worth it!

Is your PC connected to your router with an ethernet cable? Are you connected from your headset to your router with a 5GHz network?

Oh I forgot to do that. Thanks for the reminder!

No problem 👍

@@DayDreamerVR how do i get a 5ghz network my wifi is 2.4ghz

@@iconsumepizza Does your router support 5ghz? It is worth checking the router specifications online. Or if you go onto a Web browser and access your routers settings - you will have to type the ip address of your router which is usually on your router or type in 192.168.1.1 as the Web address in your browser. Then you will need to login to it, either with a password you decided or there might be one on your router. Then look at SSID or wireless settings. It will hopefully say if you have 2.4 and 5ghz here. It is worth giving your 5ghz signal a different name to the 2.4 one. That way you can make sure you are connected to the 5ghz band. Hope that helps 👍

Are you launching Steam VR on your PC first, then trying to open the app in your Quest 2 and connect? Or is this issue when you click connect it won't connect/load the Steam VR home environment? I don't know a fix at the moment, but if I find anything I'll update 👍

There are a couple of things that could be causing this. Try changing your network connection from private to public. If it then works then the issue is likely your firewall blocking the app, so it is then worth checking app firewall permissions. Make sure your headset doesn't have any outstanding system updates, and update if you do. Make sure your GPU is on the latest software. Hope one of these helps and you get it sorted asap 👍

okay iwill try to update my drivers thanks @@DayDreamerVR

At 120hz the frame timings are tiny, which means you really need to drop the graphical settings very low. I would recommend reducing the resolution very very low, see if that gets the frame time to a manageable amount, then increase it slowly. I have a 4090,and I have my settings and resolution high, but only run at 72hz, so my frame times can be almost twice as long as yours at 120hz,and I'm pushing my frame times to the limit.

Yeah, I forgot to mention foveated rendering but added it to the pinned comment. The Encoded resolution width still seems very low though even with foveated rendering. It does help with pc load and latency, but I know some people would prefer foveated rendering to be able to be turned off, maybe in a later update. Also Encoded video size is still a factor on other apps when not doing foveated rendering, it determines the size/quality of the stream 👍

@DayDreamerVR Fully agree. I am surprised we still do not have it implemented. Number one SteamVR bug for me.

There are a few ways to do it, but potentially the best way is to install the app Sunshine on the Steam Deck, and then sideload Moonlight onto the Quest. More info can be found here: www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/175rsxo/display_steam_deck_on_quest_3/ Hope that helps 👍

That's not good, if I find any fixes I will update 👍

@DayDreamerVR that would be awsome

I would try the lowest settings possible in the game, and in steam link, and then slowly increase them. Virtual desktop or Oculus Link might be better though as asynchronous space warp will significantly reduce the demand on your PC, but steam link doesn't have that option from what I can remember

To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." Hope that helps 👍

@@DayDreamerVR I tried that and still nothing :(

@@TrevinF98 how frustrating, if I find something else I'll update 👍

Hi, I don't know if you have tried what this post suggests, but it could be worth a read, there are a couple of different suggestions in it about how to fix the 301 error www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/4ip2x8/how_to_fix_steamvr_error_301_steam_support_just/&ved=2ahUKEwjowZXt16-GAxVMQkEAHTVkCacQjjh6BAgfEAE&usg=AOvVaw0xScXWibC4JPkD25VDEMMW Hope it works for you 👍

Thank you, I'll take a look as it is happening more than I would be happy with to use it regularly if it carries on 👍

@@DayDreamerVR now, I've got to figure out why zero cal has no audio when every other game has audio.

@@AndrewStonerock How weird, if I think of anything/find anything I'll let you know 👍

@@DayDreamerVR it's wild. The audio is there in air link, but not steam link. I switched the audio devices in the desktop tab, as well as the audio section VR settings. I'm not sure what the issue is. Maybe zero cal just isn't compatible.

Several of my games don’t have audio

Still waiting on my Quest 3, but I have WiFi 6E, so very curious how it performs

Yeah, hopefully we'll get the option to turn it off at some point, could be better if really trying to make the most of lower latency, but otherwise it does reduce the image quality out of the sweet spot

Yea I've found that Steamlink looks the best of the 3 (Airlink and VD). That is, when you're looking dead center. The edge blurring is way too drastic

@HotFiya05 yeah, it's good for keeping latency low and keeping the demand on the pc lower, but image quality suffers at the edges. Would be good to have a slider to determine how much fixed foveated rendering kicks in

If you have steam and steam vr open on your PC, another window should open that asks for the code 👍

@@DayDreamerVR thank you 👍

It will also help you get a smoother image as there is less demand on your PC and headset, and there will be less latency. I think it would have been good to have a choice for it on/off, as there are definitely some benefits and some negatives depending on your use. I don't mind it personally 👍

@@DayDreamerVR exactly, also you dont even get a crisp image in your peripheral view with your real eyes anyway, or idk maybe i should see a doctor. i do agree on having a choice to flip it on and off tho but i'd definitely just leave it on since it feels pretty natural to me

What graphics card do you have? Are you connected to a 5GHz band on your router with your headset and is your PC connected to the router with an ethernet cable? What router is it that you have? I would recommend keeping the encode res and bitrate in automatic, and set the steam vr resolution to 100% whilst testing. Then I would recommend getting fpsvr and checking in the game that nothing is showing as orange/red and seeing how many fps you are getting and what your gpu and cpu usage is like. You can also check the debug graph from steam link on your desktop, the latency graph is on the bottom half of the graph and your frame rate, and bitrate are at the very top left of the debug window. It can be difficult to find the issues, but it's worth it to keep trying, you can do it and hopefully you'll be playing HLA properly in no time 👍

If you search in the windows toolbar for "graphics" then select graphics settings which should show up in the results, you can then select an app, click options and select the gpu. So select steam, steam vr and any games you are running that are using the igpu and set them to your dedicated gpu. You might have to add an app at the very top of the page if it isn't in the list. You can also do this in the nvidia control panel if you have an nvidia gpu, but I'm not at my pc to see exactly where/give directions to it. Hope this helps though 👍

That must be really frustrating, do you have your bitrate and encode res on manual or auto and what does the debug graph show for your bitrate and encode res (shown at the very top left of the performance window on your PC)? Also what resolution have you got it set to? Also what is your gpu (just so I know what settings you could run it at). It should be roughly just as good as Virtual Desktop for image quality

@@DayDreamerVR Im not on the vr right now ill tell all that later but the gpu is a nvidia geforce gtx 1050

ok so I mightve done something but right now the quality is fixed! but i dont know if its temporary well its not perfect like because its air link

@@devilsaur With your GPU I would probably recommend using Oculus Link or Virtual Desktop and using a setting called asynchronous space warp or synchronous space warp (asw/ssw). Your PC will do half the frames and your headset will do half of them. This allows you to put your graphics settings higher. Unfortunately steam link doesn't have this option/setting yet. Glad you have managed to get it working though for the moment, enjoy 👍

@@DayDreamerVR well sometimes the res can drop on steam vr but it mostly works

Yes 200 is good, especially for roomscale games. The highest possible bitrate is best for racing and flight sims, to decrease compression artifacts, but a higher bitrate would increase latency. You should barely notice the compression artifacts in other games at 200Mbps 👍

HL Alyx on a 3070ti can run most settings on High. Using a mobile 3070ti it runs beautifully

@rangerkayla8824 thanks for the feedback, I will consider different gpu's in my future videos, apologies 👍

There has been a suggestion that it is because your PC's ethernet connection is set to "private," and works better if it is set to "public." I have checked mine and it was set to private, so I have set it to public and will do some testing 👍

Steam Link uses foveated rendering, this means the resolution is lower in your peripheral vision, which reduces latency and increases fps. Steam link also doesn't go as high as VD with the resolution being rendered, or the resolution being sent through the data stream which again boosts fps and reduces latency, but both these things reduce image quality. Virtual Desktop is more capable when it come to image quality, but you would have to put the settings lower than steam links to get the same latency or fps. Hope that helps 👍

Yes, you can play Half Life Alyx over Steam Link 👍

@@DayDreamerVR virtual desktop better?

@@gurugamer8632 If you need motion smoothing or the superresolution upscaling then Virtual Desktop will be better, otherwise I would say that Steam Link is simpler to use, but it does have foveated rendering which makes the peripheral vision slightly less clear - but it improves your latency by doing that 👍

Which video encoder issue are you having? Make sure Encoded video size is set to manual and to 1344 for the best image 👍

@@DayDreamerVR When I use it on the app it says that it disconnects and i need a video encoder. I already have an app for it, Im trying to buy one right now.

@@pwnedEdits what graphics card do you have? That would be unusual for it not to have an encoder built in, and it's part of the hardware, but it might only have an H265 encoder, not H264 which is what it would need

@@DayDreamerVR Gigabyte Gaming RX 6500XT

@@pwnedEdits unfortunately the 6500xt doesn't have H264 encoding, only H265. So at the moment whilst you can't change it in steam link, you won't be able to use steam link. Virtual desktop will probably be your best option as you can change the type of codec/encoding. Hope that helps 👍

Hi, I wouldn't be able to directly help you set it up/be hired, but am happy to help where I can and point you in the direction of some guides etc. What VR headset are you using, and is this mixed reality recording playing an app/game on a PC, or as standalone on the headset itself? What games/apps are you looking to do it with? My email address is in the channel info page, feel free to email me so we can discuss via email if that's easier 👍

@@DayDreamerVR hey thanks so much for your reply. I will email with more details. Thank Again!!!

@@DayDreamerVR Hey. Unable to find your email on your info page. Hopefully I’m not overlooking something. 🤷🏽‍♀️

@reginathomas9520 no problem, it is daydreamervr@outlook.com 👍

I would say it is better than air link, and more simple and straightforward than virtual desktop, however steam link does foveated rendering which reduces latency but makes your peripheral vision a bit less clear, so virtual desktop can have the clearer image of the three 👍

@@DayDreamerVR interesting and thank you for the explanation. We used VD when we were connecting to our laptop with a 1650. Didn't think to use it when we upgraded to a 3080. Now were looking for the best recommendation for both. I always assumed less apps running would be best but I guess it depends on the cpu.

It's worth double checking that your Quest software is fully upto date and that nothing is pending. Same for your GPU drivers, but try quest software first. Also turn your Pc's Internet connection from private to public-if that solves it then your firewall might be blocking the software, allow permissions for it with your firewall and switch back your connection to private. Hope you manage to get it sorted, if I find anything else/think of anything else I'll update 👍

@@DayDreamerVR I updated GPU driver a couple weeks ago, I got 1660 super, had 1050ti, I can check again. I'll check headset updates. I've been using VD for years and meta software on pc works fine. We have two headsets, it does the same thing on the other.

@@LinkSquish I take it you already have steam vr running on your PC? Also check that Steam vr doesn't need updating in steam. Private to public setting for your Internet connection is still worth trying, and gpu drivers, and also check remote play is enabled in steam. Hopefully we can figure this out 👍

I have looked at remote play before. I updated my graphics driver, there was an update. I looked into quest update, I'm on the latest. I looked in firewall, it's public. And still the app in the headset closes out right when you hit connect. My pc mainboard is ASUS Tuff Gaming Z690-Plus with Intel i9 12900K. Drive C is 1tb WD Black NVMe SSD. Yes Virtual Desktop and the Oculus app works perfectly fine, they've worked fine for years. Edit..... I built this PC myself year and a half ago. Also I got Corsair 32gb RAM 3600MHz

As long as your encode resolution is at its maximum, your resolution is reasonably high, and your PC is connected with ethernet and your WiFi is coping with the bitrate, it should be pretty clear. There is however foveated rendering which you can't turn off. This reduces the resolution in your peripheral vision, making it not as clear as the centre of your view,which could be the cause of what you're experiencing, hopefully we'll get the option to turn it off at some point 👍

I take it you have steam and steamvr running on your PC when you try to connect? Do you have any issues when/if you use virtual desktop? Is your PC connected to your router with an ethernet cable? If I find/think of anything else I'll update 👍

@@DayDreamerVR my pc is wirelessley conected to the internet. it is the acer aspire 5 laptop would the problem be that its a laptop. P.s thank you for the help

@@DayDreamerVR i have steam and steam vr on it and i dont use virtual desktop

@@Emerald_VRofficial More than happy to help 👍 What graphics card does it have in the laptop? If it has a graphics card which can run VR, then I would recommend testing it with your laptop next to your router and connected with an ethernet cable, and with you/your headset close to your router. You need to make sure you are connected with your headset on a 5GHz band. It could be worth watching this for tips regarding your router etc kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5eSfamT39vOimg.html what router do you have? Hope this helps 👍

There has been a suggestion that you need to check your ethernet connection is set to "public" and not "private." Mine was set to private, so I have changed to public and will be testing it over the coming days, and hope they fix this soon 👍

@@DayDreamerVR strange have no idea why that would effect anything on a local machine

@Dirt33breaks Yeah, Virtual Desktop actually advertise the opposite, with it needing to be set to private, so it is odd. I haven't had a chance to test it yet 🤔

You can't do it by cable unfortunately. I think you can connect the Quest 3 with a USB c ethernet adapter, and connect the ethernet cable to your router though👍

From what I can find online Amd gpu's are not recommended for steam link vr. They are testing and working on it, and some may work but generally it will be best to use Virtual Desktop or Oculus Link for the moment

Did you manage to get this sorted? Only things I know of is to set your PC's Internet connection to public to see if that helps, if it does then there is something likely being blocked by your firewall, so try and give the app permission. And make sure your headset software is fully up to date. Make sure in your steam settings that remote play is enabled. Make sure steam and steam vr are open on your PC when you try to connect. Hope you manage to sort it 👍

@@DayDreamerVR thanks for reaching out. Not yet but I was also in a hotel traveling for work so it was on crappy wifi. Now that I'm home I'll give it another shot in a few days.

@@downgraderecords8446 no problem, hope it works well for you when you retry 👍

Is your encode width set to manual 1344? If I think of anything I'll update but hope you manage to find a fix 👍

@@DayDreamerVR yeah, it’s just that AMD GPU’s always have problems with airlink

@oldfoxy33 Sorry to hear that, I was aware Amd have never quite been as compatible as Nvidia, but it's a shame as the GPU's are good value. Hopefully they work better after a few updates with Steam Link 👍

I played on steam link this evening and played with settings and didn't notice any change. Did you go to vr settings at the far bottom left, and then to steam link at the bottom left of the next menu when in steam vr? Should be there still when using steam link (not virtual desktop or Oculus Link) 👍

vd 很好，如果您已经购买了它，那么它可能值得坚持使用。 如果您还没有购买它，那么这对许多人来说可能是一个不错的免费选择👍

There has been a potential fix suggested for the audio issues some people are experiencing: To fix the audio issues, under audio in the steam menu, change audio output device from "headset" to "manual." Hope that helps 👍

I tried and it didn't helped. Need to wait for official Patch.@@DayDreamerVR

Must be frustrating - is your PC connected to your router with an ethernet cable, and are you connected with your headset to the routers 5GHz band? Do you know what your GPU and CPU load is and do you have enough spare for more demanding scenes? You can use a tool like fpsVR for checking this. I would recommend going on to Virtual Desktop (if you have it), and testing your setup there and put the performance overlay on, this will tell you what your latencies are for each step, and the frametime of the CPU and GPU (how long it takes to make each image), this way you can start to narrow down what the issue might be. Hope this helps 👍

It really is! The foveated rendering helps slightly, but it is impressive 👍

Maybe now is possible play flat competitive multi-player games like call of duty war zone or Apex.

How frustrating, did you manage to get it sorted? If not, I take it your PC is connected by ethernet, your headset is connected to the router (which is a good quality one) on the 5GHz band? If it all is, keep your bitrate on auto, and encode resolution on auto. Hope you manage to sort it 👍

Yeah sorry I didn't mention it, it's the foveated rendering, with the encode res as high as it goes, bitrate high and resolution quite high it is still noticeable but isn't so bad that it bothers me. It also helps keep your latency lower. Hopefully we'll get the option to turn it off at some point, but for the moment if it isn't for you then Virtual Desktop is still the one to use

​@DayDreamerVR I just noticed it last night while playing MSFS. The peripheral blurring is quite jarring. They definitely need the option to turn it off for those of us with high end machines. If the Q3 had dynamic FR rather than fixed, it'd be the perfect headset.

Yeah, if it had eye tracking and dynamic foveated rendering it would be excellent 👍

No worries, thanks for the feedback. They are Xreal Airs and I have a screen in them with my script as an autocue. I have tried without them but I always look knackered with bags under my eyes 🤣 I do have an actual autocue so I could give it another try without the glasses 👍

I found it funny and more appealing

I think Casey Neistat’s 12.5M subscribers would disagree with you

I think it adds more to the channel for the fact that are xr glasses. Plenty of channels out there with a persona wearing sunglasses, keep up the good work! Also I had a bad experience with steam VR app, virtual desktop is way more stable.

I think the glasses are nice bit of tech 😎

Thanks you for your feedback/comments. The mention of resolution being pre-encode, is exactly what I said in the video, I said it happens before encoding, but that it does improve image quality, which it does by reducing aliasing. You are partially right with the encode bandwidth and encoding resolutions, have it set to maximum all the time does increase latency, however the higher it is, the less compression there is, which reduces compression artifacts. If you want those compression artifacts to be kept at a minimum at all times, then you want it at its maximum all the time, if your system can handle it. This is where I guess you mentioning setting it to automatic is kind of right. If you set it to auto, and your system can handle it, then hopefully it is putting it to maximum, but I would love to see a live reporting of this as has it been confirmed that it is doing this? You also mention that maximum bandwidth is a waste of resources if a scene can be transmitted at a lower amount, this is wrong. Any scene can be transmitted at a lower bandwidth, at the expense of compression and compression artifacts, making the image worse, but improving latency, which I state in the video. As for 72Hz, I state in the video that this adds latency, I state that the higher the refresh rate, such as with 120Hz, the lower the latency. I state that to meet the requirements of 72Hz, you have larger frametimes, and 120Hz you have smaller frame times. If you set it to 120Hz, and then only put out 72-90Hz, then you could experience frame drops, tearing etc. It would be a much more stable experience to either turn down your graphical settings so you are getting a consistent 120, or even set it at 90Hz and get a consistent 90. However I also stated if you want the best image clarity, then 72Hz will give you the best chance of keeping your graphical settings high, and having a consistent frame rate. So all of the above makes your last few sentences wrong. You will notice a difference in image quality with a limited encode resolution. Also a dedicated 6e router barely brings you any difference at all. Check your latencies between Wi-Fi 6 and 6e, there is basically no difference. If you have a congested Wi-Fi 6 or 5 then 6e could make sense. However 6e has less range, and cannot penetrate objects as well, and costs more, so this makes is less beneficial. Thank you for your comment though 👍

Once you're in the Steam VR landscape you have to press the menu button on your left controller to bring up the Steam menu, hope that helps 👍

I no longer have my Quest Pro, but Tyriel Wood showed it working on the Pro? It also takes account of eye tracking for dynamic foveated rendering 👍