Reminder that we don't have SteamOS because NVIDIA has been a real stickler regarding EGL for Wayland support while the rest of the Linux community moved onto the GBM backend.
@tgrush12532 жыл бұрын
Reminder that Nvidia has been supporting the GBM backend ever since the 470 driver.
@coatlessali2 жыл бұрын
@@tgrush1253 Reminder that their GBM support still isn't completely ready yet, as if it were, we would have functioning Gamescope/Waydroid on NVIDIA cards. If they had started a few years ago, then Wayland might have been the standard by now.
@avoney31512 жыл бұрын
This is genuinely insane! SteamOS is something I'd seriously consider using for gaming on a desktop PC and if Valve ported it over properly with full support, I'd say it'd do well. Reviewers might even start using this instead of Windows for benchmarking as it might have FPS benefits on the desktop side compared to the deck (which was shown with the FPS difference between the windows drivers and the SteamOS OS) which is great for everyone.
@rangergooseman2 жыл бұрын
I'd put it on my Backup PC in a heartbeat. If it supported more hardware
@dontmindme87092 жыл бұрын
That's so cool! I really hope that Valve is working on getting out a proper version soon
@nate69082 жыл бұрын
Cerbal Space PROGRAM 1:18
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
you caught me
@laoo2 жыл бұрын
YESSS
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSS
@knightmaremedia77952 жыл бұрын
Steam os might just be the Linux distro that changes pc gaming forever. At least I hope so.. to have a alternative option to Microsofts totalitarian approach to its os and its users where it wants to own and control everything..would be absolutely a God send. Oh I also like to start a petition to have Gabe N. cloned
@sitrueis40072 жыл бұрын
I love Valve, at least they care about gamers. I trust them more than Microsoft
@blak_ket2 жыл бұрын
Does Gaben has kid? Can we choose them instead when the inevitable comes?
@raycert072 жыл бұрын
@@sitrueis4007 valve doesn't care about gamers? Their launcher sucks, they neglect their game communities, they refuse to allow public access to the modding community which locks out competition from mods, they never have big sales. They care about as much for the community as Nintendo does. Aka not a lot. Microsoft cares for the community a ton, they own a huge array of game studios, games, they support consoles almost a decade old with NEW RELEASES AND UPDATES that can be played with current Gen consoles. You keep acting like the xbox is a normal pc that's been locked down when it's done to prevent piracy. Stop acting like linux is definitively better without providing real reasoning, not using opinions or what ifs.
@sitrueis40072 жыл бұрын
@@raycert07 You can actually have conversations with people on steam forums. Yes they're lazy about their games nobody said they're perfect but their platform is great for gamers. They don't steal your data unlike Microsoft. I've never used Linux so I cannot decide if it's better or not lol. Consoles suck big time no matter which one. Steam gives us sales unlike that trash company called Nintendo, their store is full of bloat and everything is overpriced. It has no reviews or forum. So steam is better. Microsoft is another greedy company but they actually made something good. Your comment makes zero sence but ok.
@raycert072 жыл бұрын
@@sitrueis4007 Microsoft does not steal data. Consoles are not supposed to be pcs, they are supposed to be casual entertainment centers that just work. Steam has sales but they are so small. Nintendo rarely has sales online but in stores the sales can be huge, I got botw for 20$ at target. Steams sales are GARBAGE compared to epic. I got horizon zero dawn, a 60$ game for like 18.50 on epic. The issue with steam forums is that their mod marketplace is private and you can't download mods for other platforms like epic or gog or anything. It crates a monopoly where people don't want to use other platforms because they can't get the mods they want, and they also have to pay full price or near full price.
@budthecyborg45752 жыл бұрын
The moment we have an official Steam OS "Arch" ISO, I am ditching Ubuntu forever.
@erikreider2 жыл бұрын
It should theoretically work on Intel GPUs too due to their open support of Wayland and its GBM backend. NVIDIA should publish their drivers as OSS just like AMD does with AMDVLK and leave out some proprietary bits if necessary. I think that AMD does the same thing with AMDVLK where they're using LLVM instead of their proprietary compiler
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i just didn't wanna get anyones hopes up, we know steam os is optimized for amd
@raycert072 жыл бұрын
The Nvidia driver being closed source has nothing to do with performance. The closed source drivers perform much better than the open ones. Open source has nothing to do with anything. All it means is that someone could modify the source code to change functionality, which does not effect the end user that would be using the driver from Nvidia. Open source does not mean better performance, it does not mean more stability, it does not mean anything except the source code is public and people can change it to their likes if wanted
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
@@raycert07 Their closed source drivers run better _because_ the open source drivers have to reverse engineer everything. If nvidia was more open then things might work a bit better. While open source does not equal better performance, it does mean more eyes on the software itself which is always a good thing. If the drivers were open sourced perhaps we could have more features added that Nvidia doesn't want us to have. Right now SteamOS won't work right on an nvidia card because of the way Gamescope works. Nvidia cards just don't have the driver support to mesh with it despite the cards being more than capable. Also having the drivers built into the linux kernel is much, much more convenient. As of right now I just plug an AMD card in and make sure my software is up to date. That's it, it just works. If nvidia wants to keep things closed source then they need to step it up and give the linux community more love. The community is willing to do it themselves, but we can't do much with the closed source drivers.
@erikreider2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine they opened up their kernel drivers at least
@raycert072 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine what features do you want in Linux that Nvidia won't give you. Nvidia gives you headless gpu support on Linux for mining only gpus. It let's you use pass-through to game on them. Ray tracing is making its way to Linux, dlss I'm not sure about since it's so newly implemented. Steam os beta page on the valve website says it support Nvidia amd and Intel. So it does support Nvidia. Your video is outdated.
@Zorklis2 жыл бұрын
Hey while the spinning logo is cool, it's really distracting especially since it's above your head, best to just keep it locked in. Maybe add your youtube somewhere just in case
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Thanks homie you're the first real feedback ive gotten on it, ill switch it up
@Zorklis2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine Alternatively slow it way down
@Nightfire37142 жыл бұрын
Yoooooo this is sick!!!!!!
@DonaldPierce2 жыл бұрын
It works great with a 5800x + 6900xt. Desktop mode works great, Game mode resolution is out of touch. Elden Ring is working much better then on a Stock arch build.
@allenpost36162 жыл бұрын
Have you tried using modengine 2 with ER mods? I'm wanting to drop win11 and going with steamOS but was wondering how third party game apps run on it. I have a similar setup to your system 5900x + 6900xt
@PersonalPariah2 жыл бұрын
"Kerbal Space... Project" *narrows eyes*
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Hey man i was just opening games lol
@PersonalPariah2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine You monster.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
😭
@warlockboyburns Жыл бұрын
holo iso 4.0 doesn't give any gpu options like 3.2 did which no longer exists to download
@TalesOfPeople2 жыл бұрын
Installation guide would be great! How to build the ISO
@agiftofflame2 жыл бұрын
is valve thinks this will be enought to steal market share from windows they're very wrong. the big old unsupported NVIDIA in the room alone acounts for 50% of all steam users. It's a neat system and I fell in love with it on the deck though, I can't wait for further OS support, FROM VALVE.
@raycert072 жыл бұрын
Steam os supports Nvidia. Nvidia drivers are built Into the Linux kernel. Nvidia supports Linux, very well in fact. Even having the Nvidia control panel. The only thing Nvidia does not do is make their drivers open source. Software does not need to be open source just because your operating system is open source. It does not work like that. The open source Nvidia drivers the community made are absolutely garbage and can't do a thing. The normal Nvidia drivers are great and work very well. There is no reason Nvidia should make the source open because it wouldn't benefit the end users performance.
@Audfile2 жыл бұрын
Pffft. Then get me an AMD.
@softwarelivre23892 жыл бұрын
If Valve can use SteamOS to get even 30% of AMD gamers to use GNU/Linux, then they're in a pretty good shape.
@raycert072 жыл бұрын
@@softwarelivre2389 that won't happen. And Nvidia isn't unsupported in linux. Linux performance is great. Wanna know what I think is happening with amd? Their windows drivers have sucked forever because the people working on them came over from Intels gpu division (no joke) and those bad drivers have been holding back the performance. When the drivers are open source on linux the community eventually makes the drivers good doing the job that the devs are supposed to, letting you fully utilize the gpu gaining performance Over windows. It's not that the linux drivers are good per se, it's that the windows ones are bad. They need someone to actually work on them, get them functional. Nvidia has their driver situation perfect. They don't need community to make them because they hire qualified people to do it.
@softwarelivre23892 жыл бұрын
@@raycert07 yeah, probably won't happen, but I was just debunking OP's argument of "without NVIDIA we're doomed forever" and such.
@fabiotrevisano2 жыл бұрын
So now that this thing has been out for a few months, how would it compare to a 10-year old PC running an i5-3570K, GTX 660 ti, 8 GB RAM, and 2 TB platter HDD? Seems like people are saying the GPU is less powerful than a GTX 1050, and userbenchmark says the GTX 660 ti is slightly faster than the 1050. Am I really to believe that this thing is weaker than my 10 year old PC? I mean I know it's a handheld, but damn.....
@raycert072 жыл бұрын
Yes. It's slower. About as powerful as a 1030 iirc. Which is half as fast at a 1050. It does not matter how old your pc is if if it beats something currently in production. It's not possible to make a handheld that draws as much power and performs better than a older mid range pc. You would need at least 150 watts for the whole system. The steam deck uses I think 35 watts max, and usually uses 15 in games. The cpu in your system probably draws 120 watts, your gpu probably draws 120 watts, your already way above what the steam deck power draw is there. The goal is low power draw for decent performance for a low resolution.
@Mooria2 жыл бұрын
wanna do a steam OS vs windOwS 10/11 on games and show fps?
@TheMaxCloud Жыл бұрын
Cause I dont want to get WIndows 11, like Ever. But I know at sometime in the future Windows 10 will get Boxed like 7 did... And I have no hopes from Microsoft to make a Windows that ditches 90% of everything that 11 has, I really hope the SteamOS gets good enough to compete against the Windows monopoly.
@PsycosisIncarnated2 жыл бұрын
.....im...... ......im gona..... .......*sniffs*..... *BIG INHALE*........ ....urgh.....urgh....... IM GONNA!........ IM GOOOOOOOOONNA!!!!!!!!!! IM GONNA COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Do it
@altoidss102 жыл бұрын
Civ5 and KSP are native to begin with you did not need to list them
@budthecyborg45752 жыл бұрын
LOL thank goodness I hung on to my old Vega 64. Now I just need to grab a cheap Ryzen.
@SF-li9kh2 жыл бұрын
Can u please test with AMD discrete GPU ? Like the RX6000 for example
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
It does work with our 6900xt, what would you like to see?
@akurasubject96172 жыл бұрын
i don't think if they wanted the steam os 3 to be supported to all computers that just out from their pay grade. that's why they would'nt release steam os 3 other than for the steamduck.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Considering if they release it with valve attached to it the steam troubleshooting people would get overloaded with linux questions
@StealthyBigBoss2 жыл бұрын
Can i dual boot this with windows 11? and does it work as a virtual machine?
@davidordonezsalas48462 жыл бұрын
so i have to install arch linux then make this? i am new in this can you make a tutorial to this i have an amd processor. please
@m.m.37532 жыл бұрын
Hallo i got blackscreen after install. 6900xt and denon avr and epson tw7000. Please help
@saesang3522 жыл бұрын
What happens when the official release actually happens? Will this install still work? Or will we need to delete everything and reinstall?
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
You'll likely want to reinstall everything at that point. This is more of a tech demo/proof of concept. It _could_ get updated to match the official ISO if/when we get it, but I wouldn't count on it.
@Franchise99202 жыл бұрын
I am currently trying to build the iso on winesapos with an error. Can you make a video on how you built the ISO?
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
I used balena etcher, but yeah well get out a video how to install it here soon
@jojogonjalves41372 жыл бұрын
I 1st thought to make my pc a console by installing steam os, than I came to know some games are there like pubg pc that are still not supported in steam os till now.🤕🤕
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Rip anticheat
@jojogonjalves41372 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine 😢😢
@GhostGamer7992 жыл бұрын
That why I love amd more then nvidia
@Karim-uknwmg7022 жыл бұрын
i heard that systems based on lunix always use integrated gpu for everything
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Nah you can use dedicated graphics on this it just has to be amd, our 6900xt works great
@Karim-uknwmg7022 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine i know there is alot of amd gpus good enough to handle modern games but i still prefer nvidia rtx for gaming
@joaojose59302 жыл бұрын
I would like to install but I am not able to put SSD make a tutorial explaining thank you very much, ryzen 5 2400g 16 of ram.
@m.m.37532 жыл бұрын
But... Will it be faster than a Windows System in gaming... I think not really. Eventually for low end Systems, but its not worth to change a running Windows System like Mine. I used all Windows since 3.11. Never had Problems with gaming, ok with my 5700xt Yeah a lot but i Stick now with a 3070 and Windows 11. Its perfect. I tried a lot Linux distros. Never been happy with it. But i wish Valve take a fight, because Linux deserve attention in the gaming World.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
It might not be faster or more useable than windows but man does it boot fast and for the first time im impressed with linux compatibility, like Bethesda games dont like to boot because the splash screen and whatnot, games like cyberpunk will take 3 different protons to see what works, this just worked for me so im pretty happy with it
@m.m.37532 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine i hope so. I love Linux, but there is no line. Every distro ist not equal and makes it not easy for oldschool Windows victims. But now i have hope... Valve go! Take the Chance.
@davidrohan31042 жыл бұрын
Some games Linux can run faster than Windows since it is more optimised and less resource hungry, the main barrier is compatibility which causes a lot of games to perform better than Windows. I believe Elden Ring actually performed better on Linux, as shown by tests performed by Chris Titus Tech.
@guineapig1016 Жыл бұрын
Ditching the 2080RTX for an amd gpu
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
I am so hyped for the 7000 series.
@LosTCoz30002 жыл бұрын
yup. it doesn't like my intel cpu.
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Rip
@jameskan8232 жыл бұрын
Did the tpd slider work?
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Lol i didnt try, thats a good question
@lucidgamer5362 жыл бұрын
Can someone make a tutorial on how to download holoiso cause I'm stuck on getting internet to install it but I don't have an Ethernet cord
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Were working on it
@lucidgamer5362 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine alright thanks.
@qchtohere86362 жыл бұрын
Oh cool, another Arch distro with Steam preinstalled...
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Not quite, it really does boot into the steam deck user interface
@qchtohere86362 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine Yep, gamescope is awesome. Welcome to Linux gaming. Enjoy your stay.
@pkpkpkok2 жыл бұрын
this os is good?
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
Works pretty darn good for gaming
@pkpkpkok2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine can install in 1195g7 mini?
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
@@pkpkpkok should be possible
@MikeLitty692 жыл бұрын
@@pkpkpkok have you done it yet? i cant seem to get it to install on my 1195g7 1s
@pkpkpkok2 жыл бұрын
@@MikeLitty69 i buy a old oxp mini 1195g7 this friday yes it cant
@Trane_Wakeman2 жыл бұрын
Привет из России
@carljohnson45922 жыл бұрын
Please upload Steam deck videos only
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
All you gotta do is follow the dam train cj
@carljohnson45922 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine it’s smoke fault not mine homeboy
@CoilWhine2 жыл бұрын
@@carljohnson4592 does smoke got a steam deck i can borrow?
@carljohnson45922 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine smoke only cares about food
@AlexRubio2 жыл бұрын
Go ahead and blame the lack of sh* Nvidia Drivers are for Linux.
@redgeciccone82182 жыл бұрын
yerkk.... linux that run windows game with an emulator... a piece of crap.. good for linux geek that hate windows but depend on it lol