Steam Radiator Air Vent Spitting Water

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3 жыл бұрын

Steam radiator air vent spitting water? A common problem in steam heating systems that are often caused by the opening and closing of the service valve feeding the radiator. The feed valves are there strictly to shut down a radiator in the event of an emergency or required maintenance of the radiator.
They're not designed to throttle down the steam entering the radiator and will ultimately trap condensate trying to get out. The result always ends up with the steam radiator air vent spitting water. This video was taken by homeowner Mike K. as I changed out a faulty convector radiator steam valve. Not a job for the D.I.Yer or faint of heart! I.M.H.O.
Make a note at the beginning of the video as the air vent is spitting water to the top of the convector box and the water drops to the floor. The result of someone shutting the radiator while it's filled with hot steam. They're service valves folks, and will not control the amount of heat you can get from a radiator. If you must shut off a radiator because you're too hot, shut them when they're cold!
Enjoy and Happy Plumbing!
Bob
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@mcroley591 3 жыл бұрын

Bob, I’ve been in our trade for 36 years. I really appreciate your talent and abilities. Your are a true professional. Thanks for sharing your videos! Stay well sir.

@sleektoneofficial 8 ай бұрын

I bought my first 12” ridgid offset, always went with the straight jaws. Man do i thank you bob i love that thing.

@BobsPlumbingVideos 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for checking out the video! Bob.

@williampeters6004 3 ай бұрын

Your amazing Bob. You have the gift of being able to see in advance in your mind how your going to be able to get through the problems you see coming

@BobsPlumbingVideos 3 ай бұрын

Very kind of you, thanks for checking out the video!

@eddiew.6485 2 жыл бұрын

I like the “Brute-finesse” used to finally square off the replaced convector…….Well done👍

@BobsPlumbingVideos 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@stephenzies8867 3 жыл бұрын

It's Always Nice To Watch A PRO At Work. Thank You Robert !

@Trainman0401 3 жыл бұрын

Never thought of using my oscillating saw to remove old pipe. Always used my reciprocating saw. That’s a great option for tight quarters! Thanks Bob!

@smitlag 3 жыл бұрын

It's always great to see a master at his work. It is a good reminder that there are jobs that require professionals. Often people never realize the depth of learning and mastering a trade. Great video!

@BobsPlumbingVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Don! Regards, Bob.

@williamdyckman9704 3 жыл бұрын

Bob, nice job on that valve repair. Like your techniques on getting the job done !!

@nickosuperintendant9514 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video Bob! You do it so easy and fast. I am a Super Intendant on a 75 family in South Brooklyn. The past few years i use Verivalve. My radiators are same as in this video. I hate when tenants play with those main valve and then they leak and damage the ceiling in the lower apartments.

@glorygloryhallelujah 3 жыл бұрын

Steam is so rare. Great that there's somebody on youtube covering it. Thanks

@StoneysWorkshop 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Bob. I work on boilers for autoclaves and washers, I have learned some tips from you over the years.

@sunil1979dp 3 жыл бұрын

Wow love how you cut that value out no hassle 👌

@yosefyaffee5912 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful job Bob

@ChingusTheOneAndOnly 2 жыл бұрын

Great job , I can’t thank you enough for these great steam videos !

@BobsPlumbingVideos 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it! Appreciated, Bob.

@nickperdo6699 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Bob, was waiting for one like this. Hopefully we get to see more live action in the field! 🤘🏻

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@georgejetson4378 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome changeout. You’re the man!

@BobsPlumbingVideos 3 жыл бұрын

I try

@JJJDrums 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, looks like I do have a reason to buy the oscillating tool now! Thought you would of hit it with the sawzall but that worked perfect. That offset wrench is pretty sweet too, Ill be getting one of those. Good job and thanks for posting.

@nickosuperintendant9514 3 жыл бұрын

I thing the grinder will work too.

@brooklynaudit 3 жыл бұрын

Well done bob , you’re in great shape to be getting down on these valves 💪🏼🔧 well done bud. I mentioned before in another comment , I’m very close to you in Brooklyn , over 23 years in the game & tons of tools. Would love to work with you or help you if you busy.

@BobsPlumbingVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@arthurs7299 Жыл бұрын

Awesome work...thank you🤝👍🇺🇸

@BobsPlumbingVideos Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@billybee3534 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Bob , videos so interesting watch some of them over n over again , have a question anybody can answer . Multi storey buildings with steam boilers same kind of valve needs to be changed whats the waiting time period before i attempt to open valve after shutting the boiler off so there is no presure left.thanks

@cribbsprojects 3 жыл бұрын

Is there a reason you don't use PB Blaster or some such penetrant fluid to bust out the corrosion? Nice video again!

@BobsPlumbingVideos 3 жыл бұрын

It’s just quicker to cut them out! Time is $$$.👍

@jeffreyjohn2037 3 жыл бұрын

You bumped up the pressure? What was the pressure trol setting? Was the pigtail cleaned?

@JP-od9ps 3 жыл бұрын

Great job! I used to live in a CO-OP in Jackson Heights. I remember when those used to bang, but it could really heat up the Apt. Still in Jackson Heights, but own a 3 family. Before I even got through the video. When you said water was spitting out I automatically thought that the auto feed with the low water cutoff combination maybe went bad, because the sludge that can build up in the steam radiator when not flushed out after long periods of time. You’re videos are great. I do commercial work as a steam fitter. Sometimes at a job anywhere from 1- to 3 years. Depending on the size. I always wanted to try residential because you see different people on a regular basis and go from one job to the next. So l, nothing really get Repetitive which can happen in a commercial job site. Keep up the good work. You’re only a borough over Lol small world. Keep the videos coming. Great content.

@BobsPlumbingVideos 3 жыл бұрын

👍

@tiarajasmin1915 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Bob, I have the same radiator as seen on the video and it has the same amount of space inside the wall. My radiator is not producing enough heat for the bedroom. I replaced the relief valve on the side but it's still not able to produce enough heat. The shut off valve is brand new and fully open. I want to mention that I also have a steam system. I called many people in regards of finding the same radiator but was unsuccessful in finding a replacement. They stated they don't make this same type of radiator anymore. Where am I able to purchase this type of radiator? Should I buy a cast iron radiator? Are you able to send me a model number, if it's available for purchase?

@BobsPlumbingVideos 2 жыл бұрын

They are a little bit had to find, but they're out there. Check out this link - bit.ly/3rRfYQa. Check the data sheet for specs. I believe they'll ship. Is that convector properly sized for that room?

@xcmskim4 3 жыл бұрын

Nice job! I have the exact same convector in my house in Queens except it's a hydronic heating system (not steam). Is there suppose to be a hy-vent on one side? Cause I only have a manual air bleeder valve. Thanks!

@raymoran40 3 жыл бұрын

Manual bleeder only

@medicalnegligence 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid! My back hurts from watching this..lol. Question, is the valve the same as you would use on a standard vertical orientation for a cast iron radiator? Does the horizontal orientation change the principles of the steam/condensate flow through the valve?

@BobsPlumbingVideos 3 жыл бұрын

They’re some what similar, difference being on a traditional vertical valve the threaded end is at the bottom. On the convector valve the threaded end is reversed. Same with the spud or union end, they’re reversed. The condensate still flows back toward the steam system.

@michaelx_usa1 2 жыл бұрын

Can you use a big Crescent instead of that big Wrench? The Wrench damages the beautiful brass finish.

@BobsPlumbingVideos 2 жыл бұрын

You could!

@kevin7151 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Bob. You are a patient and talented professional who does high quality work. I know you do most of your work primarily in Brooklyn. I also believe you mentioned you were going to take more time off in the near future. If you do decide to still do periodic work will you just limit that to Brooklyn or would you consider coming into western Nassau county if the job was significant enough? Thanks.

@BobsPlumbingVideos 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it Kevin, looking to ramp up my videos, and doing fee based video based consults. If I decide to take on any work, it'll be in the Bay Ridge area. Thanks for asking. Regards, Bob.

@gww-y3y 5 ай бұрын

Curious why you don’t add a couple squirts of PB lubricant to help loosen nuts

@BobsPlumbingVideos 5 ай бұрын

Time is money, I have no time to wait for a lubricant to start working.

@gww-y3y 5 ай бұрын

What 1.25” angle valves do you recommend can you list in your comments place a link. I maintain 7 apt building 5 have steam boiler single pipe cast iron radiators. Love leaning more about SR thank you for your videos!

@BobsPlumbingVideos 5 ай бұрын

In today's world I try my best to use Matco-Norca cast bronze as my 1st choice & Legend as my #2 choice. They seem to be the BEST of the imported line. In the good old day's Hammond and American valve company were by far the best valves money could buy. Those days are Looooong gone!

@marriagepartnersministry5942 3 жыл бұрын

If the vent was spitting water why replace the shutoff valve? Why not just open it?

@shaundonovan2193 2 жыл бұрын

Hope you got paid for that repair! That was some skill.

@BobsPlumbingVideos 2 жыл бұрын

I did indeed! Great customer who also was doing the camera work...👍

@adama.cabrerajimenez1876 Жыл бұрын

What would be the price range for a job like that if you consider getting a plumber???

@BobsPlumbingVideos Жыл бұрын

Depending on the degree of difficulty for a particular situation $800/$1,200 plus sales tax.

@Progrocker70 2 жыл бұрын

I don't see these convectors much, any advantage to them over cast iron radiators as far as heat goes? I guess being mostly recessed into the wall they don't take up as much floor space.

@BobsPlumbingVideos 2 жыл бұрын

I personally like the cast iron versions, they retain the heat much longer after the heat shuts down. These steel convectors heat up quickly, but cool off soon after the boiler shuts down.

@scsc2814 8 ай бұрын

why not change the street elbow and small nipple while everything is a part?

@BobsPlumbingVideos 8 ай бұрын

No question you could, but I don't like messing around with these steel convectors (fragile animals) doesn't take much to screw them up. If this was a cast iron element, absolutely!

@jeffreyjohn2037 8 ай бұрын

@@BobsPlumbingVideosregardless you should have held back on the street elbow with another wrench.

@joechicky7366 2 жыл бұрын

Need a good steam guy in Westbury area..any recommendations?

@BobsPlumbingVideos 2 жыл бұрын

Visit www.heatinghelp.com, click on "The Wall" enter your location to locate a steam professional in your area.

@gww-y3y 2 жыл бұрын

Why wouldn’t you use PB lubricant to soak threads? Just curious

@BobsPlumbingVideos 2 жыл бұрын

Time!

@Valsi876 Жыл бұрын

My convection radiator is knocking and spiting water, but it doesn't have a convector valve. The pipe goes straight in from the boiler.

@BobsPlumbingVideos Жыл бұрын

All convectors should have a service "shut-off" valve, but I've seen this situation before as well. Having a working valve just makes life easy when you have to remove the convector ands investigate.

@mattfrank5314 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know know if you know this but you have your filming location on. so it says it was made in "brooklyn"

@BobsPlumbingVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Brooklyn, New York! I’ll go in and fix that, thank you! Bob.

@michaellee688 Жыл бұрын

Hi Bob, I have the same kind of radiator on the 4th floor and the air vent keeps spitting water. Is the valve issue?

@BobsPlumbingVideos Жыл бұрын

Pitch the convector toward the shut off valve, use a good quality air vent. Hoffmans are a good choice.

@gww-y3y 2 жыл бұрын

What type of gloves are you wearing?

@BobsPlumbingVideos 2 жыл бұрын

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@jeffreyjohn2037 8 ай бұрын

Why didn't you close the valve when tightening so the valve stem didn't gouge the wall?

@BobsPlumbingVideos 8 ай бұрын

I always tighten stems in the neutral position, they tend to make up better. I.M.H.O.

@greyes701 3 жыл бұрын

That that special blue goop?

@BobsPlumbingVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Not Blue Block, Mega Loc. My everyday go to choice! I use Blue Block on all of those problem Joints.

@greyes701 3 жыл бұрын

@@BobsPlumbingVideos Thanks for the response! You have great videos for beginners (me) and pros. Any opinions on Bradford White's boiler system? I work at a kids camp and we need to replace a furnace soon but just put this 100gallon water heater/boiler in. Any thoughts if you have time. You're much appreciated either way!

@mrbigcat9 Жыл бұрын

Bumped up the pressure? How?

@jeffreyjohn2037 8 ай бұрын

Should be lowering the pressure. I hope he meant bumped up the thermostat.

@mikejones129 3 жыл бұрын

Hello ... A frustrated Brooklyn tenant. 3 Years in a row radiator is spitting water and my super thinks I or someone is touching the valves .... unless it's a ghost no one is it's no reason to. Any suggestions. He changed the piece where the water is spitting out 4 years ago when it initially happened. Its worst now because he said yesterday they turned the heat up do to the tenants above me on the 4th floor wasn't getting good enough heat to warm their apartments. My hardwood floors are slightly warped because of this... Dumping buckets after buckets.... Helpppppp lol Please

@BobsPlumbingVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Tough situation in an apartment setting, to many hands playing around with things they know nothing about! I feel your pain.

@nickosuperintendant9514 3 жыл бұрын

Today the valve was making noise. When i took it apart, the inside rubber piece came out of the handle and was making funny noise. Which part of Brooklyn are you in?

@BobsPlumbingVideos 3 жыл бұрын

Bay Ridge