Steel Longsword, March 25th - Sparring Showcase

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Blood and Iron HEMA

Blood and Iron HEMA

8 жыл бұрын

A sparring showcase featuring Steel Longswords.
The steel feders used in the video are:
The Dobringer - By Comfort Fencing
Ensifer - By Jan Chodkiewicz
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@OJtheModerator
@OJtheModerator 8 жыл бұрын
These videos have always been a pleasure to watch, but the editing in this one -- explaining and replaying each successful hit -- really makes me feel welcome as a viewer. Thank you so much for doing this!
@zes3813
@zes3813 2 жыл бұрын
no suhc hting as succex or etc
@bobu5213
@bobu5213 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome to see some self covering sword fighting. This makes duels last longer than 20 seconds... I just wish this would be done on tournaments...
@SirPlusOfCamelot
@SirPlusOfCamelot Жыл бұрын
ikr during tournaments they stare at each other for a minute straight then charge and it ends immediately
@workingpeon9316
@workingpeon9316 3 жыл бұрын
A duel with longswords is such a delight to watch.
@slenpaiwashere3599
@slenpaiwashere3599 7 жыл бұрын
Great form and technique by these fighters. can't wait for more.
@SoarswithSwords
@SoarswithSwords 8 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, great techniques pulled off during this video. I'd suggest labelling all fighters each round, to help viewers, and actually naming mastercuts and other techniques when available.
@HEMASimian
@HEMASimian 8 жыл бұрын
That sounds suspiciously like more work editing ;)
@exploatores
@exploatores 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian Schuetze Somthing like red or blue belt would make it easyer to tell them apart and the name would not have to follow the fighter.
@JustGrowingUp84
@JustGrowingUp84 8 жыл бұрын
+Julian Schuetze Lol! Don't worry about it mate, while of course we would like a little extra information, we do appreciate your hard work, the slo-mo replays and hit markers are a huge improvement over regular sparring videos.
@HEMASimian
@HEMASimian 8 жыл бұрын
+TheFilthyCasual Oh I'd absolutely love to stuff in more information and work on these more! Unfortunately I'm a full time Kinesiology student, plus all Blood and Iron activity so sometimes I'd be able to spend the time to add more details, but sometimes I would not. Consistency is one of the big things we're aiming for, so that's not possible at this time. Fighter names aren't a big deal though so I can figure out a better way of doing it.
@hanieh_art
@hanieh_art 2 жыл бұрын
It is very good that you explain each fight separately. As a viewer who doesn't really know where to look, that's a great help for me.
@shadowless3337
@shadowless3337 3 жыл бұрын
I love blood and iron. These guys are true sword masters.
@lokuzt
@lokuzt 8 жыл бұрын
2:00 excellent timing!
@ishouldbeascientist
@ishouldbeascientist 8 жыл бұрын
+René Jiménez To my eye it seems like she could have blocked that strike too but must have assumed that the opponent would go for an upwards slash and just put her sword in the wrong place at the wrong time.
@alfatazer_8991
@alfatazer_8991 6 жыл бұрын
Seeing Hema sparring in action makes me think unarmored civilian duels back then were relatively short affairs. It takes seconds at most for either combatant to draw first blood to end the duel
@defaultset
@defaultset 5 жыл бұрын
Decapitations and limbs getting torn off is probably like wednesday for them
@graysonbaker1744
@graysonbaker1744 4 жыл бұрын
If you look closely, most of the strikes that stop these bouts are kinda little more than love taps. They're maybe drawing blood, but a lot of them won't kill, or even severely injure. That last one that was ended by a draw-cut to the face would've just cut the piss out of your cheek and ear--it was nowhere near the neck, and nowhere near someplace vital. The same thing goes for most of the places where arms and legs are hit-- not much force delivered in the strike, therefor little more than cuts and nicks are delivered. A lot of people don't seem to realize that it's pretty damn hard to cut through bone, and all the test-cut footage people put out usually shows them cutting at 75-100% power. You can't always make followup attacks as powerful as you'd like.
@philipped.r.6385
@philipped.r.6385 2 жыл бұрын
@@defaultset More like tuesday. :D kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdCKaKxp0ZmWc30.html
@ShaddyWoohooMan
@ShaddyWoohooMan 8 жыл бұрын
Looks like fun, dang I wish I could do this too.
@debaser71
@debaser71 8 жыл бұрын
added to favorites to show people how cool this is
@JRT176
@JRT176 5 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant fencing.
@underswappapyrus6606
@underswappapyrus6606 7 жыл бұрын
my fav is Lee Smith He's just so good
@sionefinaulahi4640
@sionefinaulahi4640 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer real fencing *flimsy poky bois and only attacking from one direction* I SAID THE REAL FENCING *this* Perfection
@kalleolson7296
@kalleolson7296 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, I went to that stuff once then quit because I wanted this.
@frogman4700
@frogman4700 4 жыл бұрын
if you have something like an epee (or a smallsword in a historical context) why would you attack from more than one direction?
@runakovacs4759
@runakovacs4759 4 жыл бұрын
@@frogman4700 Consider spanish Destreza. One could argue rapier is a better smallsword. Destreza is attacking from a ton of angles/directions.
@frogman4700
@frogman4700 4 жыл бұрын
@@runakovacs4759 a destreza is fundamentally different from a smallsword because its not exclusively for thrusting.
@matthewpham9525
@matthewpham9525 4 жыл бұрын
Dacino Hoihe Even considering destreza, most rapier systems are linear. Smallsword is almost exclusively linear, so destreza doesn’t even apply.
@vitofiscale6053
@vitofiscale6053 5 жыл бұрын
this is so fucking cool
@justacameraman4900
@justacameraman4900 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like so much fun, sucks to have *the c00f* so it's not super safe to take lesson, especially for someone like me who doesn't have there own gear😭. But at least I get to watch some awesome longsword sparing!
@mig-stallion1359
@mig-stallion1359 4 жыл бұрын
Wowa wee waa!
@Criticcizm
@Criticcizm 8 жыл бұрын
I bet people hollywood would hire you guys to teach some sword fighting choreography for movies and tv shows. Game of Thrones is one that comes to mind.
@falsefight
@falsefight 8 жыл бұрын
Actually, this is not showy enough for film. Real fighting is hard to show in a crowd pleasing way
@oolooo
@oolooo 7 жыл бұрын
It can be made and very well .I believe that you do not have to sacrifice drama or any sort of things to make it realistic and faithful . In the case of Game of Thrones , the lack of intelligence and skill of the characters is a complete downgrade from A Song of Ice and Fire , where they are far superior than their TV counterparts .
@RandomAllen
@RandomAllen 7 жыл бұрын
I disagree, Look at the Adorea Longsword duel! That was done using historical techniques and it looks amazing!
@SaftonYT
@SaftonYT 7 жыл бұрын
It's difficult to say the ASOIAF characters are superior to their live action counterparts because the novels simply don't go into sufficient detail of fights to make a blow-by-blow analysis of the fights. It's mostly informed ability. There are numerous unrealistic things in the books, too, regarding military subjects.
@cedricl.marquard6273
@cedricl.marquard6273 5 жыл бұрын
@@falsefight This looks awesome, way more natural to me
@jubez1875
@jubez1875 6 жыл бұрын
The victor of the 1:40 engage is so controlled during the whole thing. I actually screamed. Wow.
@anathamon
@anathamon 8 жыл бұрын
Cool Video.
@sionefinaulahi4640
@sionefinaulahi4640 5 жыл бұрын
Wut would u suggest for one who wants to get into hema I also wanted to know if u had to bring full body protection and gear being a noob
@moonstruckstarlet6607
@moonstruckstarlet6607 7 жыл бұрын
I wish I had a HEMA club near me, I can settle for olympic style fencing in the meantime though (by which i mean foils and the like rather than longsword)
@SirPlusOfCamelot
@SirPlusOfCamelot Жыл бұрын
Olympic fencing is boring.
@tarquiniussuperbus21
@tarquiniussuperbus21 5 жыл бұрын
Nice, you are the only guys I have seen who do not fight like suicidal maniacs. Very good.
@joshuakavanaugh7851
@joshuakavanaugh7851 6 жыл бұрын
Actual sparring
@andrewmacedo9570
@andrewmacedo9570 5 жыл бұрын
wicked Technics great fencing, i also saw lots of possibilties to use other guards to start and end a cut more cleanly
@andrewmacedo9570
@andrewmacedo9570 5 жыл бұрын
such as ox low and middle guards and even ending acceding cuts with einhorn
@andrewmacedo9570
@andrewmacedo9570 5 жыл бұрын
just for some of the sparing not all
@ADoodGuy
@ADoodGuy 4 жыл бұрын
1:21 I love looking at this exchange for some reason 1:40 The next round was also really neat
@SpaceMissile
@SpaceMissile 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, both were really good tags
@antoinefdu
@antoinefdu 3 жыл бұрын
I am so worried about that guy's toes..
@KaerRid
@KaerRid 5 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful! And nice present for the birthday(25.03). :)
@ronaldooliveira8771
@ronaldooliveira8771 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this video on your birthday bro lol hb!
@KaerRid
@KaerRid 5 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldooliveira8771 For sure, bro!))
@oolooo
@oolooo 7 жыл бұрын
Man , Jesse is fast .Do you ever put nicknames or titles to each other at Blood and Iron ? .
@Slaave
@Slaave 7 жыл бұрын
are there any manuals or depictions of kicks used as part of a HEMA combat system? I can see several openings where a Muai Thai style cut kick or leg kick could be executed swiftly and safely during some of these sparing moments and would give a great advantage in unarmored combat.
@egjundis
@egjundis 7 жыл бұрын
Yep. Can't remember the German ones but Fiore of the Italian school shows some kicks. Also both schools had plenty of grappling too.
@BoarhideGaming
@BoarhideGaming 7 жыл бұрын
Tophat Mike Probably, but even if there aren't any kicks depicted in manuals, you can be sure they were used anyways. Wouldn't use them in friendly sparring though, kicking the legs out from under someone while both wield swords, even mock training swords, is a really bad idea
@zayanwatchel8780
@zayanwatchel8780 6 жыл бұрын
Mike Percival a greater one in armoured combat. Think about it armour needs to move around at the joints. If you have a guy in nice gambeson, and with some good chain mail overtop you won't get through that. The entire body is covered in tough chainmail. The best things to do are 1: half sword 2: wrestle. There are two types of wrestling. Sport, and to the death. If you are going o the death you can break joints, and smash bone. And you can do that as long as they aren't in some types of plays armour
@habibsspirit
@habibsspirit 6 жыл бұрын
During most of these rapid exchanges your cerebellum is so occupied that I doubt there would be room for kicks to come into action.
@mig-stallion1359
@mig-stallion1359 4 жыл бұрын
Golden Maximo . I disagree the glutus maximus will over power the cerebellum and produce a kick in reaction to the fight.
@sieferx5248
@sieferx5248 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any HEMA schools in Regina Sk?
@s4mis4mi
@s4mis4mi 5 жыл бұрын
would this be an accurate representation of how actual sword fights looked like in the past?
@radhummingbird97
@radhummingbird97 5 жыл бұрын
More or less. They're fighting based on techniques recorded in fencing manuals written in the past, such as Joachim Meyer's Art of Combat, a go-to longsword treatise for many HEMA fencers. Of course the swords are blunt and the equipment is modern, but the fighting is very much based on historical swordsmanship
@nikvett
@nikvett 4 жыл бұрын
Kinda of, because this techniques are on books and no everyone in middle ages know how to read.
@iterationfackshet1990
@iterationfackshet1990 4 жыл бұрын
Mario Guerrero Rodríguez a knight would’ve known how to read, and those books were meant for nobles and knights, and they often knew their own native language and Latin. Latin used to be the formal way to speak and write so anyone of higher class birth so everyone needed to know it.
@catsultan949
@catsultan949 2 жыл бұрын
Unarmed fighting, yes.
@shawnwolf5961
@shawnwolf5961 5 жыл бұрын
@2:10 both fighters would be dead, the one who landed the gut shot also took a blow to the head! Great sparring, this is far more awesome than any Hollywood made up garbage.
@thrownswordpommel7393
@thrownswordpommel7393 5 жыл бұрын
Not really, it was an afterblow. ( A strike you wouldn't have been able to throw if you were fighting with sharp weapons)
@catsultan949
@catsultan949 2 жыл бұрын
@@thrownswordpommel7393 You can land an afterblow after you are dead. since the nerves still carry the signal from the brain
@joshuagleeson4776
@joshuagleeson4776 2 жыл бұрын
It was more a superficial cut than anything. Would leave a nice big scar but wouldn't be immediately lethal.
@catsultan949
@catsultan949 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuagleeson4776 yeah but most tournaments deduct a point for afterblow because it shows you weren't defending yourself
@abysswatcherbutibitethedus872
@abysswatcherbutibitethedus872 2 жыл бұрын
Didnt that afterblow miss though?
@giggityguy
@giggityguy 8 жыл бұрын
this scoring system makes sense for unarmored combat, which was of course done with longswords, but is there any way to spar simulating armored combat? it seems like armored longsword combat was one of the most difficult forms of swordfighting, but I can't think of a way to simulate that without stabbing each other in the eye or beating each other over the head
@lkotof
@lkotof 7 жыл бұрын
Well that's exactly the thing mate, the HEMA protection worn by practitioners today is nothing compared to the amount of protection that full-plate would give you. GIven that armored combat revolved around techniques that would hurt the enemy despite the armour, the HEMA gear would be nowere near enough to simulate armored combat. Murder strokes are right out - way too dangerous for a hema mask in my opinion, mask can cave in just from a normal longsword strike, a mordhau will deffinitely bent it and potentially break it if its a faulty one, Half-swording could be done but again youd be aiming for spots where there wouldnt be armor, and thrusts can be very dangerous against someone with just a HEMA jacket. TL;DR : For the time being, no.
@MisdirectedSasha
@MisdirectedSasha 7 жыл бұрын
You can do most Harnischfechten techniques in regular HEMA gear; Ikotof is wrong about half-swording being too dangerous but right about Mordhau and Mordschlag being a no-no. That said, most Feders respons poorly to being used as crowbars to lever and throw your opponent around, which is how you use swords in armoured combat. You need a stiffer sword. There is also one absolutely valid way to simulate a fight in armour... wear armour ;)
@lkotof
@lkotof 7 жыл бұрын
MisdirectedSasha Ok, maybe I was wrong on the half-swording bit, but at the very least you need to be careful with thrusts in general, especially if the point goes towards the neck, even if your partner has a neck protector under the mask. Not that you shouldn't thrust, just that it should be done carefully :)
@MisdirectedSasha
@MisdirectedSasha 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, you do have to be careful. I find it better to use synthetic swords than steel in this context, both because they're safer in the thrust and because they're less likely to take a permanent set. And because they're cheap, so if you do ruin your sword you won't lose your best tournament feder :P
@vengervoldur6534
@vengervoldur6534 8 жыл бұрын
Despite the use of armor, is there still a factor of pain in involved during these sparring sessions? And, if so, is it enough to deter otherwise aggressive or "natural" response to the opponent?
@BloodandIronHEMA
@BloodandIronHEMA 8 жыл бұрын
+Venger Voldur Hi there, sorry for the late reply! Yes, even with the jackets and protective gauntlets, you definitely still feel the strike. We put a high emphasis on respecting the weapon when we fight, so we don't just go in blindly throwing attacks.
@thesecretlibrary890
@thesecretlibrary890 6 жыл бұрын
Well, the swords are tin.
@Darkrender
@Darkrender 6 жыл бұрын
No, theyre definitely not "tin". Theyre blunted steel
@Darek_B52
@Darek_B52 5 жыл бұрын
@@thesecretlibrary890 Blunted Steel actually.
@Alpha.Phenix
@Alpha.Phenix 8 жыл бұрын
Now watch at 2.0 speed. As if they weren't fast enough XD
@Tirfing88
@Tirfing88 5 жыл бұрын
this looks so goddamn fun
@dcfencer8333
@dcfencer8333 5 жыл бұрын
Henry Chavez it is, I only do it at a uni club and so we just have the synthetic weapons, but even so it is fun
@laskey84
@laskey84 8 жыл бұрын
great job. What Feders are you using?
@BloodandIronHEMA
@BloodandIronHEMA 8 жыл бұрын
+robert paulson All swords used in videos will be posted in the video description. We used the Dobringer and Ensifer feders.
@laskey84
@laskey84 8 жыл бұрын
thank you much, keep up the good work
@rockyblacksmith
@rockyblacksmith 4 жыл бұрын
The strike at 1:34 would have been SOOOO gory in an actual fight.
@SpaceMissile
@SpaceMissile 4 жыл бұрын
Ack! mine guts hath fallen. you art the victor. alas, now _i shall die._
@graysonbaker1744
@graysonbaker1744 4 жыл бұрын
depends on how much power you put into it. there's still a lot of meat to get through (not to mention muscle) if you want someone's guts to come out.
@18IMAMGODINA
@18IMAMGODINA 6 жыл бұрын
Huh , didnt expect that it would be this similar to kenjutsu, i've seen a lot of moves that you do while practicing kenjutsu.
@MrSaundersc
@MrSaundersc 5 жыл бұрын
The mechanics behind swinging a sharp iron bar has alot of overlap. there's some difference in philosophy here and there but for the most part I've seen Kenjitsu or european longsword enthusiast able to pick up each others art form fairly quickly.
@chris-il4qu
@chris-il4qu 4 жыл бұрын
The only big difference is the techniques involving using the second edge and most of the thrusting techniques. Because while katana can thrust its primarily a slashing weapon.
@Mike-dl7ns
@Mike-dl7ns 7 жыл бұрын
Smith is a gambler
8 жыл бұрын
You obviously know what you are doing. I wish there was more grappling involved. 😉
@viktorkachovski5252
@viktorkachovski5252 7 жыл бұрын
Too difficult with spes heavies. I love to grapple with my left hand, and still find it hard to do it in full contact with these gloves. I hope we might see more when Konning gets more popular :)
@mig-stallion1359
@mig-stallion1359 4 жыл бұрын
Sex sells...
@typorad
@typorad 7 жыл бұрын
Why do some of you fight without shoes on?
@MisdirectedSasha
@MisdirectedSasha 7 жыл бұрын
Do you guys not count thrusts in your bouts?
@seanfranklin1591
@seanfranklin1591 7 жыл бұрын
Of course we use thrusts in sparring! Though on the whole we tend to be a much more cutty school.
@Maarrcco
@Maarrcco 3 жыл бұрын
i wait to the end to see fight this long back hair girl 2:50
@TheYvesL
@TheYvesL 7 жыл бұрын
In sword fights if you miss a block, its welcome to a abdomen, leg or hand slice
@thejamaican67
@thejamaican67 3 жыл бұрын
Real life nothing like fantasy great videos
@Wolfencreek
@Wolfencreek 2 жыл бұрын
Me: Gonna join a HEMA club this week, watches this video, sees my name pop up in the video ._.
@RandomAllen
@RandomAllen 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing Duplierian! (I know I just butchered that!😅)
@BloodandIronHEMA
@BloodandIronHEMA 6 жыл бұрын
Redman A Duplieren :)
@RandomAllen
@RandomAllen 6 жыл бұрын
I FINALLY PULLED IT OFF IN SPARRING! SO HAPPY! :)
@vold2268
@vold2268 7 жыл бұрын
Is this german longsword?
@keenanmclean9916
@keenanmclean9916 5 жыл бұрын
yes
@calebrobinson6406
@calebrobinson6406 6 жыл бұрын
Wrestling shoes would probably work real well on the mat you are using. Wouldn't offer much protection, but it's a shoe about as flexible as bare feet. Less chance of spreading ringworm and the like
@johnfraire6931
@johnfraire6931 4 жыл бұрын
1:06
@Winnie-dj7nh
@Winnie-dj7nh 5 жыл бұрын
留名
@funnysecksnumber6998
@funnysecksnumber6998 3 жыл бұрын
one of these days, the tip will catch you where your belly shows under that jacket. please, just upgrade to one that doesnt come up with your arms.
@Theredhaunter
@Theredhaunter 8 жыл бұрын
Moar!
@BloodandIronHEMA
@BloodandIronHEMA 8 жыл бұрын
+haunter Pr1me You got it! We post two sparring videos a month provided nothing goes horribly wrong :)
@Theredhaunter
@Theredhaunter 8 жыл бұрын
+Blood and Iron HEMA :D
@headhunter-ty1zx
@headhunter-ty1zx 6 жыл бұрын
Put Jaime lannister to shame
@Eric-sy1xu
@Eric-sy1xu 8 жыл бұрын
Dis is propa... Almost makes me... want to... WAAAAAGH!!!
@Eric-sy1xu
@Eric-sy1xu 8 жыл бұрын
projecta3halkida Cheeky git, I'll set Skullmuncha on ya. He'll make a nice toofpik out of da stik ya call a Cheynsawd. He'll hav ya gutz fa gartas he will.
@OarenWraye1986
@OarenWraye1986 8 жыл бұрын
Good match. Remember your footwork when you strike and parry. Your sword is your shield. Steeping in your strikes in a circular pattern to keep your sword in position and maintain threatening strikes. Every undefended strike should be a kill.
@headhunter-ty1zx
@headhunter-ty1zx 6 жыл бұрын
The channel name reminds of house words from game of thrones
@jesshallsworth
@jesshallsworth 4 жыл бұрын
Does your scoring assume they would not be wearing armor? Most of those hits/slashes would have done little more than bruise a properly armored person.
@SonarWavePulse
@SonarWavePulse 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is unarmoured fighting
@rune5416
@rune5416 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody: The boys locker room: this video
@zes3813
@zes3813 2 жыл бұрын
wrr, tallx s inferiox boat , doesn tmatter
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