Nod engineer : can place booby trap to denied recapture of neutral structure Scrin engineer : Can stealth while stand still to hide from danger Steel talon engineer : "i've yet to see anyone out smart bullet"

"They gave me a gun?" -Combat Engineer

Steel Talons: "we don't care that much about infantry." Also Steel Talons: *puts a bunker on everything*

It's a shame they never gave the ST any sort of reverse-engineered but improved plasma technology. For the Experimental weapons division, they really felt less advanced than ZOCOM.

My BOYS. I rocked these guys so hard back in the day.

How ironic it is, that force created to prepare GDI for a new war lost it before it even began.

Wait wait wait. Did kain target the steel talons relentlessly in order to remove his largest threat in the gdi. And now that they have been defunded. He can move more easily

I always found it very ironic that the faction that has less infantry and focused more on vehicles had a harvester that needed infantry in order to defend itself

2 notes/corrections I'd like to add: 1. The heavy harvester mining speed reduction is only noticeable in-game, but it has been confirmed to be a bug. The same bug actually affected all of the new sub-factions in KW. 2. One of the biggest advantages of the Titan MK.2 over the standard tank that has not been mentioned in this video is the fact that it is a raised weapon platform, meaning it has the ability to fire over buildings, while it can use those same buildings as effective cover against other non-walkers.

I find it kinda funny that the idea of an armed engineer has cropped up in two different CnC games; Tiberium Wars and Red Alert 3, on two opposing factions

you should do a video on Tiberium flauna and flora and how it mutates life. I think that would be a really cool video

You know what really impresses me about the GDI? Between these guys and ZOCOM, they're actually quite interesting in terms of how they respond to the setting and conflict. Especially when set next to NOD, it'd be so easy for the good guys to be generic, but they're really not.

I loved the steel Talons. My favorite weapon was the Behemoth, but the lack of specialized troops was a hinderance, as well as the lack of heavy base defense such as sonic cannons. In the skirmish missions, I would often attack and capture a GDI or nod base for the heavier base defenses and specialized troops. One upgrade I wish they had for the titan is a second gun.

I just received a 3D printed model of the Titan mk1 from a friend that paints models for a living. Good memories playing tiberium sun and fire Storm

Damn I remember when I was a kid the titans and wolverines got me all pumped when I watched my cousin play tiberian sun. Thats when I got hooked on C&C

You were a worthy opponent Gen. Mitchell, I'm glad to see the scribes and historians were wise enough to keep your story, so that future generations can learn of your kind of... courage

Steel Talons is probably my favorite GDI faction

Everyone: we need to fund science or earths atmosphere will become toxic General Mitchell: nah fund me so I can get rid of some guys who like crystals

I am going to say I think GDI in general was wise to invest in both conventional combats vehicles as well as walkers. It allowed for more flexibility overall. And even though the Steel Talons may have been out smarted nod and Kane . I do think in the long run they helped keep nod in check and allowed GDI to operate effectively as a whole. As even if it was a big brain move for Kane to get the Steel Talons defunded he used allocate a lot of his own resources just to do that. So even if he was able to move more freely eventually I am sure his forces were crippled to some extent. Also I think the Steal Talons left not only visible but mental scars on nod veteran warriors that ultimately tested their faith to the brotherhood. Like the new recruits would be so energized for nods cause. While all You see in the corner are the cold Dark gazes of Nod Veteran Soldiers who survived hell against the Steel Talons and they look to each other and chuckle and say these poor bastards don't what kind of hell is instore for them. That is what I think of Steel Talons and GDIs Mech forces sure a wheeled apc my be of concern. But a Wolverine will make you keep your head down as its revs its deadly chain guns. Maybe a predator tank might make you rethink your plan of attack or wait until it passes by to ambush it from behind or the convoy its escorting. But I would like to think a Titan would feel like an encounter a T-Rex stop hide and don't make any sudden moves. Facing a mammoth tank might be your final stand to the death as a nod terrorist and you know your screwed. However you cry out defiance. A Behemoth on the other hand may make you pull out the white flag as a nod soldier and cry out why has Kane fore saken me. Now I am not saying that this is how a nod soldier would behave in any of these situations or in every case. But there is just something about a stomping mech that is just way more terrifying than any clacking of tank tracks could do. But that is just me. The Steel won in the sense that could force not into hiding or make them rethink their plans entirely which could end up in delayed and more predictable attack patterns by nod forces minimizing civilian casualties while maximizing lethality against nod forces. Sure examples in this video showed the steel talons getting wrecked and outplayed by Kane in the long run. But I would like to consider before Kane came back into the picture that indeed the Steel Talons were handing nods ass on a silver plater to them. But that is just my opinion. Although they may no longer be at the height of their strength as a fighting force. They Integrated with the main GDI Forces and have bolstered GDI's strength overall and are working effectively with traditional GDI forces on the battlefields of the future.

It's ironic the fact Joshua Mitchell was right, but everyone in GDI high command decided was more important to fund environment restoration than prepare their military for a next confict with proper weaponry, as result without the means to defends the restored territories, all their efforts were render useless. Not fund properly Steel Talons was a great mistake. Maybe with the example of New Eden becoming once again a yellow zone and the impending Scrin invasion the Steel Talons will be highlly upgraded and well funded.

Honestly I felt Tiberian Sun just felt like a better future post apoch dystopia compared to Tiberian Wars, and the fact the hyper stylised gdi got relegated to a subfaction and they just brought back tanks took away some of their uniqueness. I wish there was a game that leaned in further into the hyper stylised forms of nod and gdi from Sun and Firestorm

The AHV-8 Sandstorm lore entry also mentions the Steel Talons, naming at least one unit still in operation, the 151st Special Armor Brigade. This means they still existed as late as the Incursion War, and maybe even the Ascension Conflict. Of course that's only if you even consider the last game in the series canon. Either way they're little more than a footnote in known GDI history after the early interbellum period they originated in.

Nice video. I like the Steel Talons mechanized walkers. They're reminiscent of the walkers from Star Wars.

Honestly, I strongly believe that the Steel Talons should have had an armory with its own unique upgrades for their troopers. It would make them more viable, I'd imagine instead of composite armor for the troopers, it's an exosuit, which marginally increases their health but grants them a major speed boost (much like the cybernetic legs of MoK). Unique type of rockets for their rocket troops to deal more damage not unlike the tiberium rockets of the NOD. If they're an experimental division, you'd imagine they'd also want to essentially make the troopers into walking tanks, not unlike the Zone troopers but without it being as costly but just as efficient.

Most people consider them to be "a faction boasting their experimental powerful units somehow got antiquated units", but they should really put the time frame into the thing. Like how BH's Purifier warmech is some sort of prototype for the avatar warmech(Fixed loadout vs commandeering equipment on field), and that warmech is Tier-3 thus makes it experimental forces to deploy for BH commander, but Nod Vanilla would feeling reminiscing, and MoK would say it is outdated outright(heartless cyborg they are). ST made their appearances in KW mostly prior of the 3rd Tib war, so they are indeed using experimental forces of the time, trying to preserve most GDI's powerful arsenal and bridge them for next generation warfare, they don't get to use sonic fancy stuff because they haven't invented it yet. They put a bunker in every vehicle they have because they're paving way to GDI'e next gen infantry-tank cohesion tactic despite being an armor-battalion Tib-Sun GDI in nature. Like a parent learning using smart phone to teach the kid. But after proven "ineffective" against Nod(result of LEGION pushing KW campaign), they got underfunded and discontinued by GDI bureaucracy. And when you put them into pvp skirmishes, their arsenal automatically become antique store when compared with all other factions(even the BH). But in most RTS game, being old school not necessarily meaning being weak, in StarCraft, Goliath and Dragoon are antiquated units, but they still packs up a punch in warfare, and not even necessarily cost-inefficient to amass. So here is your Steel Talon, living shadow of her former self, still capable to conjure nightmare to GDI's foe by bringing fearsome T3 armor battalion, and Tib-Sun like T1 armor push to give a hard reminder. My feeling for them gets influenced by mods like One Vision, so don't take my imprint for this faction as its decree, it's an opinion, not an argument.

Community's 1.03 patch for Kane's Wrath has been doing a good job of making them more viable. Go give Masterleaf and Bikerush's channels. Good matches always.

9:01 - These are the kinds of "walkers" Grand Admiral Thrawn wanted for the Empire to make.

In One Vision, they are actually not too bad, but it's a shame that they aren't all that effective in the vanilla game despite being one of my personal favorite factions for their art style

Actually one of my favorite games back in the day. From the very first to the last.

These walkers were one of my favorite things about C&C

The Steel Talons may now be lost to history, but in their prime, they were but steps away from condemning the Brotherhood to that same dusty fate. -Kane, the man who nod the fastest and hardest of all Brotherhood of Nod

4:27 Are you a C&C Generals player and have used Shockwave mod and played as General Alexander? Then you'll know where the Shatterer Tank actually came from.

This is the first video I have seen of yours but you did a very good job thanks for posting

Well, thank you, random KZfaq recommendations. I have a new channel to subscribe to! I like your style and even your voice is pleasant to listen to. You make a good narrator.

GDI tech from Tiberian Sun always more interesting to me. As they seemed to regress to a degree in Tiberian Wars, barring some units.

This channel is sooooooo under rated Keep it Up I Love it

Just found out this video today, great content! Love Tiberium lores.

I use to get so pissed off when a few NOD soldiers would wipe out my mechs

Love your videos gentlemen. Just like the games, C&C lore deserves more love

Congrats! This video has 100k views + you’re up to 10k subscribers - both milestones in the same weekend.

i will NEVER forgive EA for killing the C&C franchise in such a disgracing manor!.... they had such great games to build upon & they fugged it up 😥 wars3 was the last playworthy game (even tho it has pathetic flaws) would love to see worthy successors to Tiberium Sun & Generals some day!

I suspect the steel talons will make a come back at some point after those defeats and then some.

GDI is like the Soviets and Allied units in RA2 universe. NOD is like Yuri and Allied units in RA2 universe.

Love the channel!

Really glad I found this guy, it's fun going through an indepth lore talk about the tib verse. And since they never made a fourth one (I'm on copium), I recommend everyone look at the kane's wrath mod One Vision! It really makes each faction feel more unique, especially steel Talons!

People say mechs are really impractical but the few times I played steel talon using their wolverines and titans, I can't help but feel that the pathfinding for hte mechs are better than the tanks Edit: However I should say that the argument here is sort of like saying DMRs are better than Standard assault rifles or ARs are better than sniper rifles, teh answer is not really as one is not better than the other, but will always exist next to each other.

I think a sub faction that combines Steel Talons and ZOCOM would be formidable.

10:54 And that's the *ONLY* reason to use the Adaptive Armor on the Titans and Mammoth Tanks... To compensate for the slowed fire rate while the armor is active as well as reduce the internal damage caused by the overheated railguns...

Steel Talons rule!

5:07 Wilhem scream!!!

Steel Talons are my favorite GDI group solely because they kept the mechs that made me love GDI in the first place.

Great vid

I was looking back at Essence I believe where the Firestorm Commander and General Cortez killed in a Nod victory with ZOCOM vs Steel Talons in defense of the Forgotten as General Mitchell refuses to let the Forgotten die or AU where Ret decided to refuse orders and protect Ghost Stalker

My personal favorite faction despite how much it lacks behind competitively. My favorite strategy is what I'm going to call "Roll & Fix" in skirmishes with multiple foes where I roll over an enemy with an armored regiment, put down a Battle Base alongside MRTs to fix up my Titans and support vehicles, then continue onward.

Yeah... no matter what lore befell my beloved Steel Talons, I still love them in any, if not all, cases. I'v3 made a MOD years ago to work the _Mastodon_ in TW3-KW, but removed the MARV; if there're any other MODs that did this, please let me know?

Imagine another expansion pack having a Steel Talons campaign and its about them after being reinstated during the Scrin invasion with an influx of TW2 veterans wanting to return to the frontlines making the ST's the literal old geezers club of GDI and climaxing with them being forced to bunker down inside an old TW2 era base with their MARV'S destroyed and finding not only still functioning Mammoth mk2's but the schematics to build them. I'd imagine the other expansions packs had they been made would of added more units to the sub factions further differentiating them from the main faction's units meaning Steel Talons could of literally been the faction with the Tiberium Sun units.

OH MY GOD I MISS THIS GAME

so bacially, during Second Tiberium Wars, when we control GDI, we actually control Steel Talons itself

I miss them the titans walking tanks in tiberian sun great tribute to tiberium games😥😥😥😥💛💛💛💛

Mechs would likely be excellent for Operational applications across rugged terrain but I don't see them being great against tanks in open flat terrain and they would likely be even more vulnerable to anti-vehicular warfare in urban settings.

Deploying a big cluster of juggernauts to cliffs to rain hell on my enemies was one of my favorite tactics in TS.

Cool! loved GDI walkers in tib sun

I think you remember me on the marked of kane video... well i have nothing to say... if i want to say something all i got to say is the same thing i said in the marked of kane video :)

First love your work and it makes me so happy to see the series i grew up with get the attention and love it deserves and wish they did a better ending then c&c 4. Second my favorite faction in KW and I love fighting other factions with them. I always had a fascination with mechs my favorite one being the titan. Love your work and hope to see more in the future and at some point about the red alert series. Keep up the fantastic work!!!!!

Command &conquer tiberium war 3: Titan: long live the steel claws!

When you need a heavy boot and an even heavier gun, the Steel Talons got you covered.

5:50 that animation is so cool

These games would make an awesome series or movie of done properly. I can see a transport fly into a combat zone, bay doors on bottom open and wolverines with their legs folded up drop out, parachutes open, the legs extend and the guns begin firing whilst gliding to the ground

Great video, but you described all the pictures with Nod weaponry when it should say GDI

They sound so cool "steel talons"

Don't normal guardian cannons in vanilla GDI get upgraded to railgun cannons after the tech center upgrade, too?

Frank Klepacki music soundtrack super!!!

PLaying the talons reminded me of playing early game campaigns from Tiberian Sun. Spam those wolverines and titans. If you can't wipe out your enemy. Bury them in wreckage.

#SteelTalonsRule

steel talons are my favorite faction

I can't believe Mammoth Mk2 didn't get mentioned here.

Can confirm, Australia is indeed covered in Tiberium. Nothing to do here but embrace the glow and praise Atom.

STEEL TALONS RULE!

ive never seen these some of these units in the game. are these modded or from a dlc? ive seen the large three barreled walker in the back and the two APCs but not in these configs. and ive never had the crewable harvesters. atleast not against AI in skirmish. are these only campaign units?

I think that in CNC 3 steel talons should have at least got the hover mrls besides the titan and the wolverine

Steal talons are my favourite faction

My one big wish is that they used the Mammoth Walker instead of the MARV as an epic unit. There are a few other things I’d change gameplay/ unit wise, too. 1- Make the Wolverine trained from the Barracks. It’s about the right size, I think. 2- Speaking of the Wolverine... Shotgun. Same range, but give it a shotgun instead. Maybe an auto grenade launcher as an upgrade (that would function as an instant clear move) 3- With the extra space from the Wolverine moving, give them the Predator. While weaker than the Titan, I’d think the ST would still recognize the value of how it would mesh with their own unique units. Maybe even make it like the concept- where it had a pair of rocket pods like the Mammoth. 4- BloodHounds. Add the MRT. 5- If it garrisons infantry, give it more space to garrison. Maybe 1 for the Behemoth, 2 for the Harvester, 3 for the MRT. 6- Cheaper rail gun turrets and Rigs. 7- Increase combat engineer health. He’s wearing armor, I feel like that should buy him some time.

Never understood why everyone have to put Walkers into their sci fi setting. For the most part they would have been shit for combat i mean they are walking towers and like them you just need to aim for its legs and it will go down. And thats the price of like 2 medium tanks or 4 APC or 8 Tracked scout tanks gone.

Wow never knew could put infantry in harvesters,kool.

The steel talons is a walker only army with only the mammoth tank as their tank. Also I don’t get to use the awesome GDI or scrin units in Kane’s wrath and have to fight them with cape wearing nod soldiers.

Not sure if you will get to this comment but with all the tiberium universe stuff you do I would like to see you tackle the red alert universe as well. Because you do a very good job with these lore videos

I liked playing as the Steel Talons even if they did feel a bit limited.

i like the steel talons fire power but they're too expensive and lacking the normal APC which covers anti infantry and air which is down vote for me. I also don't use zocom because they lack the hard point upgrade for the firehawks or the rail gun upgrade. Standard GDI i find works best for me.

gid ontorl the blue zones nod controls the rylewoos zones and scrin controls the red zones.

And I always thought they were some sort of group who took the old technology from the firestorm problem and used it afterwards so that essentially they are using scrap

Well, as an "Experimental Weapons Division", what they are using are quiet...antique. I was thinking they will have something like experimental walker or something, but feels more like they were bunch of old man, given their old toys to play. It's still my favorite faction tho

A few steps, as in, quite literally considering they prefer walkers

"Titan ready..." "Gettin' bored!"

Hey Jethild! What Command and Conquer game is that, I want to play that!

Zone Raiders are so damn cool

Steel talons rule!

You know one thing Halo Wars and StarCraft get right? Rifles can be used to great effect on VTOL based aircraft. Why Westwood didn't think of that for Command & Conquer I'll never know.

Admittedly they lack the super OP bullshit teleports of say traveller 59, I still reckon steel talons is the best faction, although purifying flame for the black hand is pretty tasty too, I reckon the AP ammo upgrade for the talons giving them unholy air defense superiority makes them well up there too

Subfactions? Man, Feel like I'm missing out. Maybe it's because I'm geting older, or maybe played to many other, "improved" RTSes, but it feels like I can't progress beyond either GDI's Alexandria mission(Mammoth Tanks) or NODs Slovenia(Commando Avatar) mission in Tiberium Wars, and so have never touched Kanes Wrath.

13:53 … Is that a Reaper or Predator drone?