The weight bearing posts are perfectly aligned from cruiser to the ground. It only proved how strong the alloy posts are, having the tray in the middle really serves no purpose. Hook a van on the Ute and load tray so still under gvm, then jack up the rear wheels by the tray with a high lift jack, as if you were changing a tyre. This is something I do every time I rotate my tyres, and it will show exactly how strong his mounts and tray are.

The strut holding up the tray is directly under the strut holding up the cruiser, so not really testing The strength of the tray at all.

I think the biggest difference between steel vs ali tray is not how u tested it but running into stuff. Ali bends and dints so easy it’s not funny. Steel definitely allot more impact resistant

I’m not trying to rubbish anything, but I don’t get how they tested the tray with the crane. It looked like the load points on top of the tray were lined up with the support frame points underneath. Six load points lined up with six support points, a sheet of plastic would’ve passed the same test. This is coming from a structural engineer, but maybe I’m missing something?

All the weight is on the frames not really on the tray.

The selling point to me is you can move the tray from one vehicle brand to another with a new mount kit... brilliant!

the supports are put in a way where the canopy bears no weight

Mine is used to fix big heavy dirty things. My only options were dealer fitted alloy or dealer fitted galvanised steel. I'm very happy the boss let me have the steel tray. If I was building a touring ute a fabricated alloy would be nice to have but the finances tell me I'm building a Jocko inspired Pony Lux with no need to carry 3.7 ton of 79 around lol

The test needs to be setup where the vehicle weight is not bearing over the lower support posts. Good idea though👍

that tray isnt doing anything in this test the posts the vehicle is on transfers the weight straight though to the posts holding up the tray so the whole test is just for show and totally pointless

It's point loaded straight to the ground, of course it's not going to crumble with that weight. Move the top frame to the outside edge of the tray, put the 79 on and see what happens...

Bit of a leg pull on that one boys the posts are directly lined up… my take is that steel is a bit more DIY friendly, and I can make a great looking strong tray in my shed easily for under 1000 bucks

I love the looks and the functionality of the flatbed tray and the shells with the 12v and reefers and all....but the cost is just out of range. Great looking and performing product!!!!

I have a 75 ute since almost new. It has a standard aluminium tray. Never had an issue with it. No movement, no rattling, no loose bits at all. Had all sorts of things on it including lots of heavy weight and towed a horse float since I got it. Still carrying 1ton often, although the float is gone now, as are the horses. But still good as the day I purchased it way back then. Am really keen to know the outcome of this test because I plan to tow a 5th wheeler from this time next year. Am hoping to keep the tray as don't need a canopy or boxes but will have some vegetables growing in potting mix-filled styro boxes behind the headboard.

This is how most people use there mits alloy trays, perfect demonstration for potential new customers.

compression forces directly to matching positions below big deal a piece of glass in between those frames will do exactly the same as the tray, for a real test how about disconnect one mount and jack that corner up to show the torsional strength , compare that to steel tray

Static v Dynamic weights? & I want to see wherw the frame is not directly over the chassis mounts. We can see the chassis mounts are strong, but just how strong is the tray?

This was pretty cool. Being Canadian I can only drool, but still pretty cool. But also need to see more of that red truck you guys were hovering around. Digged the roof rack on there

Crikey mate! Love your videos and this takes testing to the next level!

Really like all your videos guys hello from Adelaide

A tray would only be on wheels in centre of tray not six post

Got any figures of typical tray weights? Ie steel tray vs ally tray vs tray+canopy vs chassis mount canopy?

Well done Mits!

Static weight test done. Will there be a dynamic weight test for the tray ?

When mits first came into the game, they used to sell just a tray, or just a canopy. Now i believe they wont sell u either unless you have a tray already, or you have to purchase them together. I thought norweld was the only place that did this. Bit tough to try front up like 20k plus all at once.

I've got a dual cab Mazda BT-50, which used to have a tub, but now has an aluminium tray & half canopy. Dual cab trays are cheaper than single cab trays.

This guy knows his stuff

Alloy bars compared to steel ones? My F100 had such a heavy bull bar then when removed the truck lifted in the front!

What about factory Wood trays? Especially if you are only planning to do a simple canvas canopy?

Have an all steel tray but it used to be wood so it is lighter than normal. Can I put a canopy and dog box and still be light to go on big trips?

Really wish there were more options for these in the USA. So awesome.

G'day, 22 years ago I built a steel tipper (exhaust bag) tray for a duel cad hilux, To my knowlage the tray is still doing well. It could tip more than the vehicle should carry.

I’m going with a MITs tray for my Hilux it should be here for Xmas so excited for it can’t wait

Hey Lads and ladetts, When will we see a ladder on the side of the canopy for the wrap around awnings and side access roof tents?

My big question is, tub or tray? Is a gray better than the tub or should I leave the tub on?

Tim's socks are awesome

I think a good comparison is taking the two pieces at the 4:25 mark and smashing them against each other. Which will hold up better to hits? Or just take a rock and smash it on them.

What's the cost differents between the two if you don't mind me asking

I’m retired, wanted a touring 4x4, did my home work for over two years on what how and needed , the Jeep Gladiator is not a poplar 4x4, in terms comfort and cost is the best, there is no way I wanted to spend over 120.000 to tour Australia in a Toyota, as for the tray and canopy , Mits Alloy was the only one to go with, super happy with the tray, the canopy is tops, when you count on the best they will deliver it. One very happy customer, makes the Jeep a stand out , always have people asking me am I happy , to tell the truth I’m over the moon with my Gladiator

Its strong stationary i understand it its travelled but like to see it travel that far with that much weight on it

Controlled test. I rather see it in a rollover and I will decide how strong it is.

My question is if you swap vehicles dose the lifetime warranty still stand also what is a ball park figure for the tray an canopy to suit 2014 px ranger apart from that I found this to be very interesting information great work graham very informative 👍

It's pretty much what I've always heard, steel is better for impact loads like firewood, etc, alloy is better for static loads where weight is critical.

How do you join the rubber seals together for the boxes

18:15 love the camera angle - Graham looks seven foot tall!

Should have put the MyCoolman fridges at the very bottom. Maybe they're still being used to hold up Shauno's 200 series?

awesome so next time sooty or dirty 30 breaks down put it on the back of mitz 79

how do the canopy's connect to the tray?

Whatever your take on this is, it does prove that the material being used is plenty strong enough for most people

Love you guys and one question does shauno have a fishing channel cause I saw him on some Sammy guy channel who does fishing and wanted to know gif shauno had his own thanks

Can concur aluminium can be a bitch to work with. I have built a few back yard trays now and have come up with a happy medium. steel tray frame with aluminium floor, brought aluminium guards and toolboxes. For the back yard builds highly recommend building this way as you save a little bit of money on materiels but still have a reasonably lightweight set up but have the ease of working with mild steel with no welding of aluminium.

What if you have steal frame wood bed

Was the mounting system for the bottom of the tray the same as it would be mounted on the 4x4? Aluminium also work hardens faster than steel

Hopes Mitts alloy will built canopy fit over ute tube tray.

should have put an axle under it

Would love to see some 4 wheel driving.

When is the episode with sooty mk2 I’m soo impatient

Wild

Just look what they are standing in front of. Funny it looks like a steel racking set, to me !!

steel trays are nice to have when you have an onboard welder

is the 4x4 Suzuki good for camping & off roading ?

tonnue cover is all i need

Take out the posts under the corners of the tray. Just shows the strength of the posts.

Do UTes not ship with a truck bed from the manufacturer?

People often compare the strength of steel to aluminium alloys, biggest difference is unless you heat treat aluminium alloys after welding they lose their temper and hence strength, typically about 2/3's tensile strength.

Best size and pricing for a 2020 dual cab Ranger?

We need a alloy tray and canopy

Graham,just seek 4 a nearest truck scale,that rig does not weigh above 3.5 tons. If u dont mind,why u're not with the orig 24/7 mates?(shauno and jocko)

excelent..!!!

Whaaaaaat, that's insane... 🤯 Well done Mits Alloy - You should make a trailer tray option. 😉

i made my own alloy tray for my isuzu dmax

Like watching a epp of MythBusters... Plus boys where is you barricades for the crane lift ?? .... That's a window seat fallars

Been waiting for this one 😆

I’m kickin myself I didn’t do my research and invest in a tray and canopy!

I wonder if Mits will make a canopy that goes on top of a dual cab tub 🤔

Yes alloy can be made into strong products but it is still a soft material. It will fatigue over time. Ask any boat builder or alloy trailer maker. Once it’s starts cracking you’ll be chasing them all over.

I prefer steel for the ability to weld to it for the average person since not everyone can afford a TIG. Always you to fix thing on the tray yourself

So months and months ago you all did a budget build saying “anyone can weld, get into it and do it yourself…. Now your pushing “don’t do it yourself, buy stuff off our mates” Bring back Jesse and Jock proper wheeling and doing budget builds!

You might've missed the statement that the posts are the same materials that the trays are made out of. So while the tray may not be actually holding anything up, being sandwiched in-between the posts below and above, the materials are the same. In reality the tray may only there for visual representation, it's the strength of the materials and quality of the workmanship which is being tested and demonstrated, which is the same as that put into the trays.

Awesome technical video

Was lucky enough to get a look at the New 4WD 24-7 GU Patrol Camera Ute when it was still in Mits Workshop. Hope in a couple years when my GU Patrol Comes off Lease, I'll be in a position to go back and look at replacing my Fiberglass Canopy with a Mits Tray & Canopy system

Total farce of a test, the legs are directly above the floor supports, so the weight is going through the supports not on the tray. Have the supports in the chassis line for the tray and then the vehicle supports angle in a V to go to the centreline and outter edges of the tray. That will stress the tray in several ways and is not a direct to ground line of weight bearing.

Steel would be advantagize if you where tossing hard shard edge objects in to or around it all day long where in the same situation the aluminum would get dinged dented and gouged in short order the steel being harder and denser can take that kind of abuse a bit easier. But aluminum is much lighter and can be easily as structurally strong so in the case of like the use trays for the overlanding adventures they are much better.

How much does it cost To build an aluminum tray

I think most ppl cant afford a mits canopy

Mint

Aluminium can absolutely corrode under paint

Structural grade alloy is stronger than steel, however it loses its structural strength when you apply heat (welding) Bending alloy maintains its strength and minimises welds

Lets up the game, Carbon Fiber tray/canopy. Lighter than aluminum and even stronger than steel, rust? No way!

Wow. This proves that steel can support a land cruiser…😂

the tyres last up to half the life of the veichle i would not have said this before my d-max is 8 years old my last tyres are 110 klms and still have 8mm of tread left.

My experience is that steel is heavier but fatigues less from any bend, dent, or load. There allegedly are aluminium alloys that age really well but are heavy for aluminium. I have never used any of it long enough to make a judgment.

Great episode. Proper educational, good work

Cmon guys. Cant get in contact with Snatch. Ordered products a couple of weeks ago. Have received one item. Awaiting other. No update. No phone number. Left messages on email. No response. Pull your finger out and provide a quick response or setup a call centre.

I would not like to see the bill for the crane hire

Alloy is the best, that is why manufacturers use ally for the chassis, if the used steel it would rust.. ally never corrodes, look at the old landrover discovery, heaps of rust issues in the body, if they used alloy the panels wouldn't dent so easy and they would be as reliable as a LandCruiser

Hahaha .. people ain’t seeing the biggest down side to an aluminium tray 🤣 🧑🏼‍🏭

Last the life of the vehicle does that mean 4 yrs for a Ranger or 20+ for a Hilux😂😂😂

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why would you want to go for a tray and canopy when you could get a wagon? a wagon would be more versatile wouldnt it?