I'd say that Mother Sphere taking control over the Armor makes it way stronger. Moreover, Eve has just gotten her new powers while Adam had them for a long time. So she might need some time to unlock the full power, maybe it even takes a whole sequel until she fully awakens them

릴리가 로봇안에 타고있었기 때문에 약하게 때린것입니다. 영상에 나옵니다.

It wasn t in combat mode until adam was gone/fuse wth eve since the plan was to kill eve after she kill adam

Simply a power move😂

She cant fight it properly due to lily being inside.

Can you imagine how crazy the locations are gonna look there. Mother Sphere (the Dyson Sphere around Earth) looks insane man

Basically, yeah. I hope Adam returns. He’s literally their “Father” so it feels right that he disciplines them.

Also, too many people blame Adam, Mother Sphere is acting alone. She’s making her own choices.

They can go all out with locations if they do colonies.

@@leon45sant True, we know it’s sort of a structure surrounding Earth. So it’s probably not as big as a planet, but it can still have many locations.

Makes sense, honestly

I think the same, holding his hand is the good ending. I'm satisfied with this ending.

Adam is the last remaining "ancestor" human, now known as naytiba due to genetic processing. He needs to fuse and reproduce to keep true human DNA alive. Eve becomes the last remaining human in the end.

@@jpineapple9495 my question is how is eve going to continue the bloodline tho can she reproduce with the other androids?, i doubt that is the case since adam says they have no dna

I really dig this. Normally this type of story the grand mastermind villain has some vaguely good plan but comes at too great a cost. But this time it's just genuinely the best plan in the long run. And the game actually let's you agree with the big bad. Which again, these type of games rarely ever do. Huge props to the writers.

No1 gives a fuck

Oh I thought you needed that for the second exo spine upgrade only

It's not really 'a ton', per se. Some of the progress you get automatically, some through side-quests. But yeah, you need lore entries, but only those that question mother-sphere.

I don't think it's really a ton of entries. If you actually explore and get interested in the story it fills up very easily. I had my meter filled way before the point of no return.

thanks man really appreciate it i would not have figure it out

Well, they have been taking quite a lot of reference from Bible lores. Even their names Adam, Eve and Lily are from Adam, Eve and Lilith.

@@priyanshupriyadarshi0016 actually depending on source 3 wings indicate a seraphim, the highest of angels (as Lucifer was). But if memory serves it is 3 PAIRS of wings, not just 1 side winged. Also opponents (Belial, Abaddon...) are taken from the same hebrew/christian souce(s).

@@orztakuwell having 1 wing is indicative of a fallen angel, so it might have been creative liberty to highlight he as a representative of humanity have fallen and paradise is lost to them

@@orztakuhe is the highest of the naytiba but he is still fallen so instead of 6 wings he has 3

Nah he was the anti christ . He was a fallen angel that deceived Zion that he was its savior only to come back and destroy it. This my friend is the book of revelations.

She probably getting eaten alive by the wasteland ennemies at this point 🤣 thanks EVE

Would be pretty wild if Mother Sphere scooped her up, mind whiped and throw her at Eve as a surprise rematch boss.

She s so pretty though aww (i wont call her sexy because every female airborne squad is a bombshell !!)

she re attaches her limbs

@@ZeroDarkOmega At this point, Raven would just get whipped by EVE in her current state. Would be interesting to see a DLC or sequel from Raven's PoV since she probably survived.

Virgil*

malenia.

​@@emperordalek102lol that's not even a Sephiroth copy for you to be bringing her up that's From Software copy pasting Sigrun

@@Force-Multiplier yep.

@@Force-Multiplier yeah i can see that.

There are 3 endings, none of them are "true" because they're all "possible".

I disagree

@@6vigid7ricudivuz6sorry but the secret ending is the true ending which makes the true ending when saving everyone of Xion is the canon ending

@@6vigid7ricudivuz6 It's the cannon ending because only in secret ending you can save xion, save lily and rebuild xion. Only secret ending got post credit scene

​@@vanhnguyen8776 agreed. It is part of the story/game to make Lily's progression meter to 100%. If you fail to do this before the end game then you won't get the true ending. If you ask me, the other two endings are just like the consolation prize for beating the game.

Just wish that outfit was playable aside from the boss fight

u got bad eyesights, but boobs is boobs :3

Wish we could use it in ng+

@@kevinrc2190 Same.

I've seen some discussion over which is the good and bad ending. The doom humanity ending still ends a bit ambiguously with Eve and Lily about to be attacked in space? But I also feel that the “good” ending where Lily dies is also a bad ending loool. Seeing Lily die made it the bad ending for me.

but everyone in the town are androids so mother sphere taking over would do nothing but help them and get rid of all the insane monsters. and out of the monsters there are like what 2 of them in total that have some semblance of sanity to not go around killing anything moving. so idk man mother sphere might be doing shady stuff but the human race are gone already and all thats left in all ending no matter what are the androids, nytybas, and then eve and her new species. so idk the ending where all the insaine monsters that kill anything that moves are whipped out does not seem that bad especially since the androids are sentient and think for themselves so idk what differentiates them from human other than they are not comprised of 100% meat.

@@bronze1895 From my understanding, all species can coexist and new spieces can be borned in the true ending. Other endings doesn't really allow that.

@@bronze1895 I don't think Mother Sphere is gonna be good on the people on Xion.

you definitely have this backwards....the good ending is when eve fuses with adam (whether or not lily dies). The bad ending is when you kill adam and follow mother sphere, who you literally figured out was lying and started the war forcing humans to evolve themselves. I swear.....did people even play the game?

Basically. I think Eve can use her and Adam’s DNA to make a brand new race. (They can probably inject their DNA into the Cradle in Xion. Thousands of sleeping humans there that can wake up.)

We have to destroy Mother Sphere for basically killing humanity.

because she’s the only character with any semblance of personality

@@Mohgenstein nah for me it’s because she’s just so good natured, innocent and sweet, seeing characters like that die hurts my soul.

@@MohgensteinHer and Raven.

Anything to not have to hear her stupid voice is fine by me.

​@@Mohgenstein"Any semblance of personality" Yeahhh, keep telling yourself that jabroni. Don't act like Eve and Adam has no personality at all.🤡

Maybe they will make a game that takes place before that one where you can play as Adam. Or theywill make playable flashback for him in stellar blade 2

Same. Playing as a shapeshifting God sounds so cool.

@@minatonamikaze6400 I’m pretty sure he’s still alive. No need for a flashback. He just needs to step outside of Eve’s body.

well we basically know his past before he became a “god”/the elder. would be interesting to know what he got up to during the decades after the final war/colony extinction though..

@@limawhiskey7451 I do think all of this could’ve been shown through cutscenes instead of lore / text walls.

It’s a weak cop out. Can’t have Eves appearance change. That’s like half the marketing of the game.

That's interesting and all, but i was hoping for a Adam and Eve romance. Something like 2B and 9S. Except Adam is more competent than 9S. They need to get Eve a boyfriend in the next game 😂

@@zackfair6791 the dynamic between 2B and 9S is not supposed to be romantic and yes 9S is not competent because he is a kid

Well that's one way of finally getting inside the girl of your dreams and becoming one with her haha😂

​@@Angelo-jr6pxIt IS supposed to be romantic. Creators literally stated that It's a love story between 2b and 9S

Lol "Good"...

@@nullharenot good?

@@marcopascha1652 indeed stellar piece 🐌🐌

​@@nullhareYWNBAW

Yes, and there is definitely more to Eve's story. This will probably sell enough to get sequels.

then you must be a hardcore player, i heard that you have to get 100% with Lilly by collecting a lot of lore entries to get the true ending.

@@farhanrejwanI recommend striving for it! You get it accidentally due to the sheer amount of lore in the game, just gotta explore each area until you can’t anymore before moving forward

@@farhanrejwangetting it to 100% isn’t as hard as you think, you can miss stuff and still get it filled

Me too lol, in my search for outfits and health cores, I looked under the rocks for everything never looking at Lily’s % 🤣

I agree but I kinda liked how it fit. The game was so dark and depressing and having it be an uplifting energetic rock song for the final moment that clearly sets up a sequel I think is much needed to make you feel like things may be ok

she probably will get a dlc

@@anis6800 I hope so

Yeah providence fight is lame. Just a slug fest with high damage

When i reloaded my save it was after the decision so i had to NG+ it

@@CorynSilver It's so annoying the game forces auto save instead of just having manual saves.

Another reason to NOT shake Adams hand that would of been so lame to fight some robot I feel satisfied with my ending by NOT shaking his hand

Should be Bad, Bad and True Ending.

Considering the scale of the colony megastructure, it should have the military power to wipe out Naytibas all together. Hope the sequel / DLC explains why mother sphere did not do it.

​@@Test-bi5rgThat megastructure is obviously a Dyson Sphere, which means Mother Sphere is harvesting Earth's energy. She profits from the constant ongoing war and that's what needs to be explained as to why she needs so much energy and for what purpose.

@@Eedorian But why earth and not the sun? Or is the earth actually more profitable because Naytibas are effin jacked? Hm nice theory but something doesn't add up Mother Sphere could build a dyson Sphere around the sun and harvest it until the sun explodes and the Solar system, including the earth wipes. Which means that earth with the constant war and the sun are basically on the same timer. So why not just use the sun? Maybe she is secretly doing that with the sun but needs more time and resources which explains why she would farm earth first. Yet, what is the energy source that so greatly profits Mother Sphere? At this point I believe, that the Dyson Sphere is Mother Sphere and the girl we see is just an Avatar she uses, which is weird because she really does not look like a mother, right...? Idk maybe the Mother Sphere serves as a womb for Earth to be reborn and house a new humankind.

@@Eedorian not how Dyson Spheres work, Earth doesn't emit radiation like a star. That said, the ending image is foreboding. It showed the "Colony" wasn't the remnants of humanity trying to take earth back. They were perfectly fine in space. The organic humans/Naytibas had no choice but to attack; The andro-eidos essentially had them by the yolk. You weren't a liberation fighter, you were a prison guard.

@@_johndoe_ You could totally harvest energy from Earth with a Dyson Sphere, especially if the Earth is already doomed with no biological life around. It would be easier, faster and you wouldn't lose your energy on the way back to Earth.

And western journalist are mad when women are sexy but when its men its okay.. double standard

Resembles Joji

I said the same thing. They made him look so plain , but handsome, in the beginning because they didn’t want to give anything away

Everyone talking about how Shiftup does ladies but the guys in Nikke and Adam are so fine 🥲

@@mihi359 yeah dude burningum in nikke is handsome

Disagreed. It breaks with even a little bit of prodding. The need for the alpha cores is the easiest example. Adam could’ve just let her in.

​​​@@Mrbluefire95 it still works. Adam is essentially the only naytiba that still has his humanity and he doesn't control the naytibas. And he's not all knowing, he's pretty much only a suped up human/naytiba that can make more naytibas. That's it. At the ending he basically says he's taking a gamble by fusing with Eve cause he doesn't know if that's the right answer. I would imagine he couldn't tell Eve his plan and his identity cause even up to that point, Eve's main reason for existing was to kill the Naytibas (you literally get the choice to kill him anyways, meaning that she still had doubts at the very end. This was also illustrated after she beats Raven. Raven mentions that Eve still doubts if they're human. So up till then, Eve is on the fence on whether she believes Mothersphere or not). If she found out early on before learning about Mothersphere's shenanigans and developing her bonds with Xion, she might have just tried to outright kill him. That was her main mission that is stated in the first 30 seconds of the game AND she'd be pissed cause Tachy had just been killed. So I can see why he wouldn't just bring her in so early. As far as the alpha cores, I think they have an unspoken reason as to why it's important to collect them. Im not sure why they would be collected for mothersphere (I gotta go back and watch Orcal's first conversation with Eve again). Anyways, at the end Orcal asks if they retrieved all the cores. When they say no, he barely even reacts and is like aite and fuses them together anyways. I think collecting the Cores was more so Adam and Orcal (they were working together) trying to atone for the Naytibas violence and sins by killing the alpha naytibas that lost their humanity. For Eve, taking the alpha cores essentially becomes the equivalent of freeing the alpha naytibas from their hatred and emotions. When you fight the Naytiba in space, she apologizes to the Naytiba for losing its core. I think symbolically it's similar to when you take someone's memory card when they die. If you lose that then, in Andro-eidos culture, you lose the essence of that person. Lastly, I don't think Adam could kill the Naytibas himself cause hes kinda in hiding as the Elder Naytiba and Eve literally says in one of the endings that Mother Sphere was watching the whole time. So to outright fight the other Naytibas would help Eve, but it puts him at risk cause Mother Sphere is literally hunting him. So to me, it all pretty much makes sense.

@@rasamasala It makes sense to you because you’ve made up the reasons for it to make sense lmao Half of this stuff isn’t actually in the game and the other half has incredibly poor execution

@@Mrbluefire95so he gives you a perfectly good explanation and you refuse to accept it sounds like you just want it to not make sense

@@little_error295 It’s not perfectly good. It’s literally not in the game lmao

Means you did everything right.

you might be onto something there! as I understand it, Eve (& Tachy) are 7th generation angels/airborne squad units, Lily was part of the 5th and Raven a 2nd gen, maybe they/their predecessors “evolved” with every new iteration.

it also might have just been an experiment by Mothersphere, basically throwing Adam a bone and more or less giving him what he needs for his evolution plan (Eve), to see what they would do and what might happen as a result, hence the ‘EVE Protocol’. maybe both theories are true in correlation with one another (Mothersphere creating, sending out and evolving generations of angels, until a perfect specimen like Eve was the result)

@@limawhiskey7451 yeah man, even in other stories in which cyborgs are originally human it varies how borg’d out some people are. Could be the same thing here. They are all created but some more “natural” than others. I went back and looked at all the relevant scenes in more detail. Tachy is the least cyberized by far. I think she even had a natural bone in her arm unlike the other two. The only metal/synthetic parts appear to be two, maybe three small conduits or cables (the “quantum nerves” we heard a bit about maybe?) and the rest is clearly living tissue/flesh such as skin and muscle. Tachy also bled more from losing an arm more than Raven did. As for Raven, she appears to have skin, then a synthetic layer or membrane underneath, followed by natural looking muscle/flesh, a conduit/cable or two, and a prominent metal skeleton or “bone” with lights on it for some reason which frankly doesn’t make much sense lol. But here’s the wild part: Lily, was almost pure machine at least where she was severed at waist save for one small patch of fleshy looking material, and purely metal finger “bones” in her hand as well, with no blood on or around the hand wounds. She also had the least amount of total bleeding occurring despite being cut in half. Now I just might be reading way too far into this and Shift Up really wasn’t thinking about consistency with internal organs/parts, and just went for some general variety if they even thought that much about it at all. That said it makes sense that the “people” of Xion and Earth in general vary so much, as over time they’d make whatever modifications to themselves that they want that are also feasible. But for Airborne Squad members who were purpose built/bred soldiers one would think that their design and outfitting would be mostly standardized per their assigned roles. Another thing that occurred to me was this? Can they reproduce already? I believe it was at least two side quests involved open mention of married couples, and how do these people think they are really human without the potential to have children, but Lyle has a daughter: Arin. Is she really though, or is she a child shaped “model” and they were made to believe that they were family, and Kaya had her supposedly older sister Kara. Again are they really sisters? Why would mother sphere build/grow child type models in the first place at all? Just to perpetuate the lie? Or were they made to believe that the humans they thought they were had lost the ability to reproduce after such extreme cyberization. But with no actual human DNA reproduction seems unlikely unless the DNA that any of them may or may not have was a completely new sequence created by Mother Sphere. There are still so many questions to ask about how this universe works.

@@limawhiskey7451 one last detail to add. Adam described EVE’s body as “the most advanced unisonous hyper body ever seen.” Unisonous is a very specific and even peculiar word. Meaning of course in unison or in harmony. Hyper probably just referring to her physiology being so above and beyond. I take this to mean that EVE’s body was the best attempt at recreating the human body using technology and from “scratch” (as he also said) ever, and was at last sufficient. He also said he’d been waiting decades to come up with his plan and for it to work, I wonder if some of that waiting has to do with Mother Sphere advancing her designs to the point in which they’d be natural or living enough to accept human DNA and furthermore be able to utilize the Naytiba’s crazy mutagenic factor to be transformed into a true human and finally get the mutation to go right because of having the right form to use as a template albeit it still with at least mild cyberization but not enough to get in the way of becoming truly human.

That is interesting. I imagine Eve is probably even more advanced and human like than Tachy is. Looked like Tachy had robot hands, and metal bones or something.

If they fused together why do they just look like Eve? It feels like Eve absorbed Adam instead

@@allandm They fused. That’s what everyone is calling it. Adam needs to store his DNA information inside of Eve to revive humanity in Xion’s cradle. She absorbs his DNA.

@@Angel_Auraa yeah I guess, when the fuse happened I was expecting this androgynous being to come out 😂 I guess it'd be weird to have us lose Eves look

@@allandm Yeah an androgynous being would look even more odd, since Eve is still the protagonist and it would erase her identity. Adam will prob unfuse later, and be our companion from inside of Eve until then. 😅

@@Angel_Auraa They should hire you to write for the sequel 😂 As much as i want to see something happen with Adam and Eve i really don't think Adam will be coming back after the fusion. Also, i wonder if Eve has organic human consciousness after the fusion instead of her original Android AI consciousness 🤔

yeah basically.. an out of control super AI completely lacking any empathy, just fulfilling its own directive

Yes She's somewhat similar to V.I.K.I from I,Robot. No emotion, only a directive that has been altered

Yes and no. She's a rogue AI and did some serious shit, but she's right when she said Andro Eidos are the future of humanity, becuase they are way more superior to any human, and when you look at EVE, Tachy or Raven you can see their not so different from human.

True she will need her new power in order to fight Mother Sphere. My guess it will be a mode she can activate to make her stronger similar to how Dante does when he activates Devil Trigger. In order not to make it too OP it will be a temporary activation mode. Maybe call it Angel Trigger. lol

Dont forget EVE left Raven crawling/slithering like the Snake in the garden.

I don’t think that slipped past a single person.

that reference was so incredibly subtle literally everyone else missed it, thanks for pointing it out

@@Marchochias It was incredibly unsubtle, wtf are you on about

@@rivariz9125 Ok this is genuinely clever though. Raven gains the forbidden knowledge, loses her mind, and pays the price even though she didn't fully deserve her fate. That's pretty tragic.

ikr?

Yes first CONSOLE game

wait there’s a mobile game version of the console one?

@@r7xn no this is their first console game, they usually make mobile games

Not really if you stay up close and use the R1+O attack that robot can’t do jack of anything to you it’s only moves that can one to two shot are the ranged moves don’t let it get far away and boom it’s a joke plus you get a free kill towards the end you only need to deal 75% hp damage I beat it in hard mode the other bad ending boss is way way more annoying I have no trick for elder just get good

@thegamewin100 Agreed that getting very aggressive with the robot is the trick. When I beat it, if anyone wants more detail, I went aggressive with combos until the first little cut scene. Then activated Tachy mode. L1+triangle it into the wall. L1+square until Tachy wore off. Then as stated above, went burst R1+circle. Then used explosive ammo to finish it off. *The few times he got close to getting up, downed the robot with those bombs.

@@BlakeCDMedia toward the end spamming r1+triangle the robot can’t do anything

@thegamewin100 How did you get unlimited burst to do that? I'm my game both beta and burst have limited use.

@thegamewin100 nvm, I see you said "towards the end". Cheers

From what I watched for the secret (I haven't played yet), Lily said about Iberis code

100% Lily favor + got iberis code in eidos 9

Help lily get “something” from her lab before you go to space elevator.

you need to collect enough “forbidden knowledge” from data logs and quests in order to max out the lily-meter and get her personal mission before leaving for the orbit elevator

Yeah I bet in the next game we will fight MotherSphere.

You can get more on raven by 100% lily before final boss

I think a new cast is also the direction they should go for a sequel. Really expand the depth of the story.

​@@DaveSmith-cp5kjyeah i agree that we should get a new cast i personally think the mc could be the child of adam and eve since it would be the first of its kind it would also add more lore to the world. I also think eve will play a role much like mother sphere then there would be three sides eves faction mother spheres faction and maybe raven faction if she came back. I could see her hating not only eve but the child of eve as well since she had a thing for adam and as for lily idk if they would keep her around as a enginer or get someone new personally i would want someone new maybe lily can be the leader or a enginer of xion or something idk thats just my theory though i doubt it will happen most likley none of it will.😅

I would like another cast of characters as well, and preferably not their children but another Android unrelated to them. The old tale of "The next generation" children of characters got stale at this point, so another cast would feel fresh.

Seriously if they actually do it the Mass Effect way where what you do in the first game carries on into the second and it's like a butterfly effect type style. Like if you got the True Ending the story carries on from there or if you got the other two endings, the narrative reflects those as well.

She is android.. there are many ways to make sense to bring her alive.. for example.. repair her in the colony

Congrats!

Ah, repopulating the earth the old fashioned way!!

yeah

Do all the questions that and raise Lilly's friendship to make.

take affect with Lily until 100%, (collect documents, memory stick etc etc when you pick up one, you see the lily icon in above right with a percentual, collect documents until you reach 100% is not necessary collect all the documents of the game) after do the mission of abyss levoire, talk to adam for to go to spire4 but in the cutscene Lily ask if before they can visit a secret map called eidos 9. after finished eidos 9 the story go on and at the end you must accepth adam's hand

No, fusing with Adam to revive humanity AND making sure Lily is okay is the secret ending.

@@Angel_Auraa It's the first ending that I got and I got it by simply playing the game and completing the various available side missions (except for the final fishing quest) So what is so secret about it?

Same. I like Eve and want to see her get a sequel.

Yeah they love making « shock » endings we just want the protagonist to be happy

In general, unless it's for minor characters that are supposed to die for developing main ones or for villains, I really hate when characters I grew to love die in fictional things, it doesn't make the experience fun for me, it makes it painful. I still remember how bad I felt when I saw several characters I loved died in productions between 2020 and 2022 (I prefer to not make names because spoilers).

Huh? Most games have the main protagonist live, what are you talking about lol. If anything, it’s actually rare for games to kill their main protagonist in 2023/2024…

​@@ultimachain8677 While they're not all protagonists and most of them are actually from animated shows, I'll make you a list of characters without telling their names but giving clues of who they are: -A certain protagonist of which death caused a colossal rage on the web; -A main character of a web show; -A robot girl turned human; -A princess; -A bird; -An "appealing" witch. I wasn't DEEPLY attached to these specific characters, but it wasn't really pleasing for me to see them dying after seeing their developments throught the years you know... after all of that, I realized one thing: becoming attached to fictional characters, is almost like gamble, a gamble in which you bet your emotions instead of the money. And one of the reasons of why I'm slowly taking distances from gaming and animation. What's the point of becoming attached to a character if then I have to see them dying? As I said it doesn't make an experience fun for me, it makes it painful. PS: Let's see how many of them any of you can figure out which ones are.

Someone said you do all side quest , max relasionship with lily, she have codes you have true ending

Lily dying and being alive cant be done in the same playthrough

you have to do at least two playthroughs, one where you save lily and one where you don’t, fighting adam can be done regardless

@@limawhiskey7451 ok say i didn’t take adam’s hand in my 1st, in my 2nd i plan on taking his hand. and lily’s meter is maxed. will i be able to get the other 2 trophies with this 2nd playthrough or do i have to go a third time? 🫣🫣🫣🫣

@@CursedWithABlessing I’m afraid you’ll have to do a third one where you don’t max out lily and take adam’s hand… same thing happened to me 🫤 you can just speedrun it though because you don’t need any of the optional stuff for lily, you’ll want to actively avoid it actually

Paul was the mastermind all along

That may or may not be her girlfriend. Could just be someone close she considers a sister. We don't really know.

My friend did something similar. If you go ro eidos9 you are locked out of the normal ending.

You don't. You have to start ng++ to get all outfits if you want all ending.

I’m in the same position as you, I want to collect all the nanosuits variations in new game plus and make the ending where Lily dies but it’s not possible to make both things, so yes, we have to play a third time. What I’m going to do is go to Eidos 9 this time to get the 2 nanosuits variations that you can get there, and the third time straight to story missions without doing any side content to make Lily’s death ending.