Ultralight CDT Gear List Post-Trail Review

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Dan Stenziano

Dan Stenziano

Күн бұрын

Link to the Gear List (with pre- and post-trail comments!):
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
Sleeping bag 0:16
Sleeping pad 1:05
Shelter 1:34
Pack 3:43
Clothing worn 4:41
Shoes 5:05
Fanny pack 6:05
Clothing packed 6:38
Food + water storage 9:46
Navigation 11:28
Ditty bag + Electronics 12:03
Colorado warm gear 13:51
Ice axe + crampons 17:06
Snowshoes?? 19:25
Bear spray/Ursack 20:43
Here is a complete review and post-trail commentary on the gear that I used for my 2019 northbound CDT thru-hike. It was an epic snow year in Colorado and I go in depth about what worked and what didn't for that section as well as the rest of the trail.
Here are links to much of the gear mentioned:
Quilt: enlightenedequipment.com/reve...
Yama tarp: yamamountaingear.com/collecti...
Borah bivy: borahgear.com/sidebivy.html
Pad: amzn.to/2FJh76J
Shoes: amzn.to/34BdwQd
Trekking poles: amzn.to/2Wgphbx
MLD Prophet: mountainlaureldesigns.com/pro...
Camera: amzn.to/2S4G4Pr
Sawyer Squeeze: amzn.to/2S4wXhS
Frogg toggs: amzn.to/2Tk0Xn6
K10 Crampons: amzn.to/2PS76Z2
Camp Corsa Ice Axe: amzn.to/2Cwv4Bn
Hiking shirt: amzn.to/2JXKfY8
OR Sun Runner Hat: amzn.to/2WOw8tm
Mirage Parka: www.montbell.us/products/disp...
EE Torrid Jacket: enlightenedequipment.com/mens...
Nylofume bags: www.litesmith.com/nylofume-pa...
Decathlon Fanny Pack: www.decathlon.com/products/hi...
The amazon links above are affiliate links, so if you click through and make a purchase I'll get a small commission at no cost to you.
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@fredhubbard7210
@fredhubbard7210 4 жыл бұрын
Finally... The before and after format makes so much sense. The Post-trip commentary is the real value.
@juliensheets785
@juliensheets785 4 жыл бұрын
This is the coolest format I’ve ever seen for a gear review. As someone who’s planning a CDT hike this is basically everything I could ask for in a video. I lol’ed when you interrupted yourself to compliment your hat.
@dianal.1279
@dianal.1279 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for posting and I've appreciated a lot that you actually answered questions in the comments. Super friendly from you!
@Hootyhoo-jq9vq
@Hootyhoo-jq9vq 3 жыл бұрын
Best format I have seen for long distance gear review.
@mharrigfeld
@mharrigfeld 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome format. I truly appreciate you sharing your experience and knowledge.
@rabmcleod3508
@rabmcleod3508 2 жыл бұрын
Nice format Dan, thank you for taking the time.
@markcummings6856
@markcummings6856 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. Great insight, great attitude. Thanks for sharing! Happy Trails
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kellycarlen9605
@kellycarlen9605 4 жыл бұрын
Great job, Dan. I always like the post-hike reviews best because we can see what really worked and what didn’t (and why). I especially appreciate the “I’d take this again” comments.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Kelly Carlen thanks!
@SewGood
@SewGood 4 жыл бұрын
Great info... I really like the format! 😊🌲🌲👍🌲🌲
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I thought it'd be fun to try it this way
@maxribot3260
@maxribot3260 4 жыл бұрын
I, too, want to express my appreciation for the time/energy you've expended in putting this video together. I am planning a NOBO hike starting in either mid-March or early April of 2020, and having not done extensive snow travel on the PCT, this has partially relieved pre-trip anxiety. Thanks, fellow challenge seeker, I wish you many more mind expanding adventures.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it helpful! and best of luck in 2020. That start date tho... if you reach CO around early May it's gonna be rough even in a normal year. Do you have a hard finish date you need to hit?
@maxribot3260
@maxribot3260 4 жыл бұрын
@@DanStenziano Appreciate the response. I am starting medical school and have orientation starting in early August. My last hiking hurrah before hitting the books with gusto. I thought I recalled you starting pretty early as well, though I may be mistaken. I am considering a flip-flop, though continuous foot path would be preferable, I suppose. My friend from the PCT, who did the CDT this past year, took the low route in Colorado, suggesting that possibility for myself as well. I figured I would start early and then make the decision about flip-floppage when I get to CO. Essentially trying to see as much beautiful territory as feasible before transitioning to a slightly more mentally, less physically, active lifestyle. Apologies for the rambling.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Max Ribot I started 4/29 and paced myself to start CO 6/5. There are a few options. Some people this year flipped from chama to the basin in WY and hiked south which buys a little more snow melt time. Actually ppl were doing all sorts of flips this year. But hopefully you get a low snow year in CO!
@xuan3903
@xuan3903 4 жыл бұрын
i like when you walk back at the end :)
@OHMYGODDOG
@OHMYGODDOG 4 жыл бұрын
I can't leave without an umbrella. I would for sure have one on a long journey. I would think an umbrella would go nicely with a frogg toggs.
@billweberx
@billweberx Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation.
@danielyacykewych4066
@danielyacykewych4066 3 жыл бұрын
Such good stuff. Both The pre and post videos.
@MattShafter
@MattShafter 4 жыл бұрын
You and another Reddit post have inspired me to do a new video. Stay tuned! Great vid bro! ..... Whoa, 28lbs in the Prophet? That's crazy!
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
MattShafter yeah I think I must have had close to that at one point. It obviously wasn’t great, I just didn’t want to send a different pack for CO, but it would have made sense lol. Looking fwd to your next vid!
@hair2050
@hair2050 2 жыл бұрын
Great 👍 review
@ikyunwoo
@ikyunwoo 4 жыл бұрын
I was a 2018 Pct thru hiker(trail name brucelee). May had seen on trail. This year I am walking on CDT like you...
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
ikyunwoo awesome, have fun!
@gravy9587
@gravy9587 3 жыл бұрын
You might want to try the Zpacks bathtub poncho(5oz). It won't wet thru and you don't sweat out. It covers your pack and protects your mattress when you use a tarp. You don't need a rain jacket for wind protection since you have a wind jacket. I also use a pair of Montbell wind pants (2.6oz). They will shed some rain and and give some warmth when needed, only pants I carry.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 3 жыл бұрын
A very good suggestion. I've considered it before for these exact reasons, and I think I will likely try it, as well as some lighter wind pants, on a future trip.
@markcummings6856
@markcummings6856 4 жыл бұрын
I hear you on the snow shoes, especially on a thru. For any snow shoe to work to prevent posting, they would be just the opposite of ones needed for climbing. As many know, the bigger, wider ones are necessary for “floatation” counters against posting. But, who wants to carry those???
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like if I was going to bring snowshoes for those kinda conditions the MSR Lightning Ascents would be a good choice but still 4lbs. Problem with the kind of snow we had is that it was never powder it was just rotten mashed potatoes so even snowshoes could punch through.
@andyveres3982
@andyveres3982 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah boyyyyyyy
@peterjohnson6273
@peterjohnson6273 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Thanks.
@timc7543
@timc7543 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, Dan. Planning on doing the CDT nobo this year. Question on the rain & wind gear: Out east here I normally carry a burlier rain jacket (got burned on my AT thru by a flimsy UL jacket). For the CDT to save weight, I'm giving UL another chance and taking a Helium ii jacket. I see a lot of folks carrying both raingear and windgear. Windshirts are new to me; why wouldn't you just use the rain gear for a windshirt?
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
I see windshirts as a kind of niche item. I don't need one but they're nice to have, especially one that's only 2oz. I find that my windshirt breathes better than my rain jacket and feels better to hike in when it's chilly but not raining. Also, not using your rain jacket as a windshirt will keep your rain jacket functioning longer. Two friends I hiked with on the CDT had the Helium II and seemed to like it. I think on the CDT you can get away with UL rain gear but I can also see the case for burlier rain gear. Not nearly as wet as the AT, but some nasty storms are inevitable. Best of luck out there!
@2007surly
@2007surly 4 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Dan. Just wondering if you are going to do a video on food while on trail. Having done sections of the CDT I know food options can be limited but would like to hear what you did. Thanks.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Lech Merry Christmas! Yeah I do plan on doing some videos under the umbrella of thruhiking tips/logistics (after I finish the episodes) and food will be one of them. Are you only interested in cdt specific resupply or resupply in general?
@lt2246
@lt2246 3 жыл бұрын
Wal-Mart sells odor proof bags that are much cheaper than opsak and seem to work just as well. It would be interesting if others have any comparison too share.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 3 жыл бұрын
Have a link?
@alexhonken
@alexhonken 4 жыл бұрын
like everyone else is saying, this is probably the best format for gear review I've seen. how's the pack holding up? i just put in an order with atom packs for the same material. did it get super heavy when wet?
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Honken nice- atom packs look awesome. I’ve been close to getting one a few times. Obv the grid stop is going to soak up some water as opposed to the laminates soaking up none, but I didn’t find it to be too bad- better than a granite gear pack I had which was made of Cordura. The inside of grid stop has a decent PU coating which I think keeps it from absorbing too much. But if you get caught in hours of straight rain it’ll definitely be soggy until you get some sun.
@janefreeman4121
@janefreeman4121 3 жыл бұрын
Great video... I even have the same fanny pack picked up at decathlon in croatia. Im wondering if layering the torrid with the montbell plasma 1000 would be adequate?... In cold areas.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Adding the lighter weight version of the plasma to the torrid could be a good solution for cold sections if you already own the plasma, and if you can get the layering/fit correct. The plasma to me seems a bit overpriced unless you're going to get a lot of use out of it. Worth noting that a combo of lighter jackets likely won't be as warm as one big jacket of similar weight, because in the 2 jacket scenario more weight is shell fabric than pure insulation.
@gabrielv3654
@gabrielv3654 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, seriously, thank you. Questions: Did you have any issues with your flashlight holding a charge in the cold? How did you keep your camera clean & dry and did you have any issues with dirt damaging the lens or anything like like that?
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I don't recall having battery issues with the flashlight, but tbh I didn't use it very much because on a northbound hike you have tons of daylight. I kept my camera in a fanny pack and if it rained, I would put it in a quart size zip lock. If it was really coming down I'd put it in my pack inside the liner. The lens is definitely showing its age and there's a bit of dirt/dust in the focus ring I'll never get out but the image quality seems unchanged. I don't think I'd ever bring an expensive lens on a long hike though :)
@TheOregonBackpacker
@TheOregonBackpacker 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more about the Opsak seal failure. Nyloflume worked for me on PCT. Thoughts comparing Slingfin and the Yama?
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, tried oven roasting bags and now back to nylofume. I think it’s the best option. Splitwing vs Cirriform just comes down to conditions. Splitwing will do the trick most of the time; if I’m expecting very strong wind, exposed camps, and/or more than a few inches of snow I’ll take the yama.
@realfakehiker7714
@realfakehiker7714 4 жыл бұрын
(Sorry for the maybe-too-many questions that follow.) According to your notes, you were never in want of more power than that 10k bank offered - what was your longest stretch between resupplies? Did you keep your SOS device on at all times? Used your phone for Guthook several times per day (but never for video or photos)? Night-hiked with the flashlight much? Did you keep all of that stuff in your quilt with you on cold nights? I didn’t see the weight of your maps noted in the spreadsheet - how many pages did you carry with you at a time? (I just did the math for double-sided 8.5”x11” pages covering Wyoming, and it came out to 29 sheets/4.7 oz.)... ...which brings me to the question of how often did you send yourself boxes? You noted that my Frogg Toggs jacket would be a poor windbreaker - why? I’m dragging my feet getting a windshirt - hoping to get by without one, despite many, more experienced folk like you swearing by them. In hindsight, was nobo a better idea than sobo? Thanks for the video, man.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
haha no problem, happy to answer. Power bank- I was definitely happy with 10k. Don't recall getting close to running out of power. Longest stretch was 6.5 days and I also had another 6 day stretch. I would normally leave my inReach off during the day to save power but would occasionally leave it on if I was messaging someone. I never used tracking though. I would check Guthook once or twice an hour just to make sure I didn't take a wrong turn (easy on the cdt). Never for photo or video, that was all on the camera. I did very little night-hiking and the light was mostly for use in-camp. If I knew it was going to be a cold night I would sleep with all electronics and my sawyer in my quilt which was annoying haha. Map strategy- I split the maps up into 5 groups- NM, CO, WY, ID/MT, MT, and had those sent out to a town with a post office at the start of each section. Then from those towns I would send out the maps I needed usually to every other town. This would leave me carrying somewhere around 5-10 sheets of paper and an oz or 2. Boxes- I did have someone sending me boxes but I tried to keep it to a minimum. I had one sent to Chama (for colorado), one in northern CO to swap back to warm weather gear, and one for my ursack. Generally I put the maps in with this stuff but once or twice had to have an envelope with just maps sent. I would send myself boxes from a larger town occasionally if I knew that a town or two coming up wouldn't have good resupply. I also used Zero Day Resupply a few times. Windshirt- I should change the wording in the gear list- it's not that the frogg toggs don't block wind, it's that they're not comfortable to wear for a long time and the fabric is delicate so they wear out quickly. If you have more of a normal rain jacket (or if you always carry a fleece) then the windshirt is less necessary. I just like it because it adds a lot of warmth for very little weight. nobo v sobo - Nobo was not a great choice this year haha. the sobos had it much easier. It was a great adventure though. I think if you can keep up a faster pace then sobo is easier than nobo on both the cdt and the pct.
@mischiefonthetrail8961
@mischiefonthetrail8961 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the best post trail review ever most just go over what they finnished with and don't explain how stuff worked from the start well done , got a ? Tho how would u think the EE Torrid would be on the application Trail late February on or do u think would be better off with my montbell Alpine light jacket
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Do you mean Georgia in February? The Alpine Light is of course going to be a decent bit warmer, but whether you need it depends on the rest of your system. If you have a really nice bag/quilt that you know can get you down to the temps you're going to see (I'm thinking low twenties or teens?), then you could save some weight and go with the Torrid and have the benefit of synthetic which is always nice on the east coast. But if you're going to be pushing your bag's rating then I'd go with the warmer jacket. To be honest I'd probably just go with the Alpine Light anyway because I hate being cold. Either way I'd also make sure I had a fleece for an active layer.
@mischiefonthetrail8961
@mischiefonthetrail8961 4 жыл бұрын
@@DanStenziano thanks ya I always have a fleece my fav peace of kit and I have a 0 deg hammock Gear burrow to start with
@markcummings6856
@markcummings6856 4 жыл бұрын
Dan, if you don’t mind a question about your nyloflume food bag. I have often too, used many of plain bags for my food bag. Isn’t the nyloflume bag very susceptible to punctures tho? Interesting to hear how yours held up while using as a food bag? Thanks again!
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Cummings it’s actually not that susceptible to punctures but once you get a tear it will spread easily. It’s definitely not the best food bag but it’ll at least last longer than an opsak
@markcummings6856
@markcummings6856 4 жыл бұрын
Dan Stenziano Thanks. I hear you about the tears. Very true.
@gabrielv3654
@gabrielv3654 3 жыл бұрын
@Dan Stenziano Hey Dan! How did you like the bivy? I'm considering getting the same one for my sobo CDT attempt but I'm concerned about condensation between the bivy and sleeping bag.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 3 жыл бұрын
I like it a lot! In fact I’ll be using it again this April on the grand enchantment trail. The top fabric is very breathable so no need to worry about condensation.
@lt2246
@lt2246 3 жыл бұрын
Were there any places along the CDT that required bear vault vs Ursak?
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 3 жыл бұрын
No bear can requirements anywhere on the CDT as of 2019. But you do have to hang your food in Yellowstone and Glacier (they put up structures for hanging at the campsites so it's pretty easy)
@elced01
@elced01 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan Congrats on the CDT completion! Just wondering if you can post a link for your fanny pack if it is lightweight (I also live in Canada). I did a large section of the GDT last summer and made a makeshift one for the front of my hipbelt but would like a better lightweight solution. Was it somewhat waterproof btw? Thanks! :)
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Ced Kar thanks! Here is the fanny pack I used www.decathlon.com/products/hiking-ultra-compact-fanny-pack?variant=888428593165&currency=USD&rnd=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmpb0BRCBARIsAG7y4zaAERgji66m0w_03iT96y2wGUCpZLgAoTrpjfzOPenCC0OmaKLVLBUaAihLEALw_wcB Sadly it’s not waterproof so I would keep a ziplock inside for my camera and phone/maps.
@leonchen1432
@leonchen1432 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a reason you didn't use your KS pack over the MLD Prophet?
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Leon Chen the KS40 would’ve been too small (mainly for CO). I could’ve gotten a KS50 but I just felt like trying MLD
@alvill3
@alvill3 4 жыл бұрын
Are you planning on doing a review of your MLD Prophet backpack?
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
alville I have a few other vids I want to make first but there has been some interest in it so I think I will
@jimdonegan4762
@jimdonegan4762 4 жыл бұрын
@@DanStenziano Please do. I'm torn between a few different packs and reluctant to decide due to the inability to try on.
@Oslohiker
@Oslohiker 3 жыл бұрын
Why did you not use x-country skies?
@gabrielmoreira506
@gabrielmoreira506 4 жыл бұрын
Do you think it makes sense to get a prophet dcf for trails that tend to have a lot of rains or the normal one + liner?
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
If you're going to be on rainy trails a lot, I think the dcf version would be worth the extra $55, because even though the gridstop fabric is technically waterproof (PU coated on the inside) it absorbs water in prolonged rains and gets heavier/soggy. But even with the dcf version I'd still probably put my quilt in some sort of dry bag.
@gabrielmoreira506
@gabrielmoreira506 4 жыл бұрын
@@DanStenziano thank for the reply! Keep it up with the good work
@friarrodneyburnap4336
@friarrodneyburnap4336 4 жыл бұрын
2868.116 cubic inches I am looking for gear lists for a 47 liter pack? I have two Carridice bags...one is 23 liters and other one is 24 liters...so I need a gear kit that will fit in these two bags...
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Friar Rodney Burnap well the pack in this video is 36L internal, 48L counting all pockets, so that’s pretty close.
@brib9716
@brib9716 4 жыл бұрын
I thought one of the advantages of frogg toggs were that they wouldn't wet out.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Bri B they won’t when they’re new. The trouble with FTs on a long trip is that the fabric wears out quickly and becomes less waterproof over time. Also water tends to sneak in through the zipper which is not as protected as on most jackets. Still, it won’t wet out in the same way a regular rain jacket will where the DWR on the face fabric gets scratched off and it becomes saturated. So I still would choose FTs over an UL rain jacket like the OR helium but on a long trip that’s not as dry as the PCT I think I’d get something more durable.
@RTaranto118
@RTaranto118 3 жыл бұрын
You made one video with vegan backpacking food. Not sure if you are just vegan by diet, but I recommend acrylic socks for winter. I put them over my other socks and my feet stay warm while hiking Colorado 14ers in calendar winter and early spring. (I am a longtime vegan and live in CO and do all kinds of things here year round.) No need for sheep 🙂
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to try acrylic socks! Never thought to try them. I guess I'm only vegan by diet but any time there is a vegan alternative to wool/down that performs equally well in the given conditions then I will use it.
@winstwu9012
@winstwu9012 4 жыл бұрын
Dan so how did you like the Burn vs KS40?
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
I actually used the Prophet on the CDT, not the Burn. The Prophet is around 10L bigger than the KS40, close to a KS50. I feel like this was a more appropriate volume for the CDT. I liked that the straps on the Prophet are more cushioned than those on the KS40 even though the KS was already pretty cushioned. This helped the Prophet feel a bit more supportive overall and I'd say upped its carrying comfort by a few pounds over the KS. But it's still frameless so nothing drastic. I also felt like the straps were a bit better fitting on the Prophet due to their slight S shape. If you watched my KS review, you might remember that I thought the side pockets were a bit low and not secure enough, well the Prophet had the opposite problem: the side pockets are a bit too high and annoying to reach. I just need to find side pockets that are right in the middle haha. I do like the grid stop material on the Prophet, it seems more durable than the VX07 I had on my KS although less water resistant.
@winstwu9012
@winstwu9012 4 жыл бұрын
Dan Stenziano great thanks for the feedback. I also like the grid stop material too vs the VX I think.
@jatsajatsa
@jatsajatsa 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. Just wondering, in your opinion, do you think the tarp / bivy combo could work for the WHOLE trail? P.S. Subbed👍
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 3 жыл бұрын
It would work, but you would be somewhat miserable in Wyoming due to the bug pressure. Two solutions: 1, purchase a separate net tent to use just for peak mosquito season; 2, use a bug bivy instead of a solid bivy which would provide a little more space to get away from them. You could even try adding one of these www.rei.com/product/849594/sea-to-summit-nano-mosquito-pyramid-insect-shield-net-shelter just for the worst mosquitoes although I've never tried personally, and it looks like it's more fit for a pyramid tarp.
@jatsajatsa
@jatsajatsa 3 жыл бұрын
@Dan Stenziano Thank you for your reply and patience (I discovered afterwards, that you actually answer my question in your Cirriform review video:) I already own the Sea to Summit bug net so that's good to know. Really enjoying your style of presenting and filming. That little 5100 is still a good camera and does the job perfectly well.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 3 жыл бұрын
@@jatsajatsa Thanks! :)
@Higleya
@Higleya 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like the quilt is down? 💔🐦 any vegan recommendations? I'm having trouble finding a synthetic that packs as small.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, unfortunately I'm still using a down quilt (been using the same one for 4 years now). I tried a 20 degree Apex quilt from Enlightened Equipment, but the packed size was enormous, so I sold it. I think the Apex 30 would be closer in size to a down 20, so if you can get by with a 30 degree quilt, that could be a good option. Also take a look at the 3D Apex quilt from Nunatak. You can get it so the underside of the quilt uses thinner insulation, which would reduce bulk. This is what I am planning on trying next. nunatakusa.com/home/208-3d-apex.html#/3d_diff_cut-yes_please/3d_foot-40_diameter_foot_end/3d_liner-breathable_10d_taffeta_black_/3d_collar-yes_please/3d_apex_distribution_foot-50f/3d_apex_distribution_torso-50f_top_and_underside/3d_apex_draft_control-full_zipper_closure_not_recommended_for_the_narrow_52_width_option_/3d_shoulder_width-58_inside_circumference_fits_most_/3d_length-72/3d_foot_liner-no_thanks/3d_apex_shells-50f_purple_42f_olive_30f_dark_grey_20f_moroccan_blue/stuff_sack-yes_please_include_a_stuff_sack/new_quilt_complete_partial_wpb-no_thanks
@michaelseangarrison2867
@michaelseangarrison2867 3 жыл бұрын
Dutchware Gear recently came out with synthetic insulation that acts like down, called "UP." It says that it comparable to like 650-700 fp down. I'm a DIY'er, so I am thinking about making a quilt to replace my Climashield quilts to see how it performs. I just ordered and received a 3oz pack of it to check it out and it is pretty cool. I can't find any vendors that are making quilts with this insulation for sale, but you know that there are some out there...I haven't looked very hard yet.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 3 жыл бұрын
Michael Sean Garrison I have seen that on their website actually. Looks intriguing. I’d be interested to hear how your quilt turns out :)
@michaelseangarrison2867
@michaelseangarrison2867 3 жыл бұрын
@@DanStenziano Check out Cedar Ridge Outdoors at cedarridgegear.com They are making quilts with this insulation. I think they are tied to ULA Backpacks
@pringerx
@pringerx 16 күн бұрын
​@@DanStenzianohey Dan, a bit late but wondering if you found a good synthetic option, I'm vegan as well and not sure about the bulkiness of an apex quilt
@hikerJohn
@hikerJohn 4 жыл бұрын
Those Nylofume bags are a bit large for food bags aren't they? I dont see any size options. Have you tried turkey or goose oven roasting bags? There is no link to the green fleece, what brands are good? Is it grid fleece?
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
They are indeed too large, but it doesn't really matter. Leaves plenty of room to tie a knot and the excess doesn't take up much space. The nylofume bags are definitely not a perfect solution as I've said to a couple others, I see them more as a temporary fix until I find or someone tells me about something better. Haven't tried the roasting bags but they could work if they didn't suffer from the opposite problem of being too small.
@hikerJohn
@hikerJohn 4 жыл бұрын
@@DanStenziano They come in all sizes from little Quail Bags up to giant drum liners and they seem to last for ever. At least I'm still using two of them after 1,200 miles on the PCT. You can cook in them as well but I never carry a stove (so far). www.amazon.com/stores/node/20288560011?_encoding=UTF8&field-lbr_brands_browse-bin=True%20Liberty%20Bags&ref_=bl_dp_s_web_20288560011 I use smaller ones for specific food items and then put them all in a turkey or goose size bag. Protein Powder is the one item that smalls the most and goes right through regular zip lock bags. It's so light that I often spill it anyway so I dont know what good it does LOL Maybe it's just the vanilla flavor they add that does that, I could switch to chocolate but I LOVE the vanilla.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
@@hikerJohn Cool! Thanks for the link. Cheaper than the nylofume too. Now if only there was a way to test the scent proofing compared to nylofume other than putting smelly things in both bags and smelling the bags... Oh- and I forgot about the fleece. For some reason it's no longer available but it is this: www.sunnysports.com/RecommendFor/whsbaqzm.html Basically what I like is as simple a 100 weight fleece as possible. I prefer solid fleece to grid because it's warmer for the weight but some will prefer grid for better breathability. Should weight around 7-8oz. Apparently I'll have to find a new fleece too.
@hikerJohn
@hikerJohn 4 жыл бұрын
@@DanStenziano I called the manufacturer and they said they are odor proof and made of a type of nylon as well.
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
John well that was easy 😛 Good to know! I plan on trying them next time I go out
@karupt422
@karupt422 4 жыл бұрын
How tall are you
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 4 жыл бұрын
karupt 5’8”
@xingmenneigong
@xingmenneigong 4 жыл бұрын
looks like most ultralight gear can be replaced with garbage bags
@RobertSmith-up9rz
@RobertSmith-up9rz 3 жыл бұрын
I just don’t get the point of tarps and bivvies. They both are as heavy as a DCF tent but offer no shelter much against inclement weathers and unpleasant animals. Is it that certain people really really love the feeling of sleeping without shelter?!
@DanStenziano
@DanStenziano 3 жыл бұрын
I do love the feeling of sleeping without a shelter, and do so often. But some tarps, like the one in this vid, offer as good or better storm protection than many tents. DCF tents are also great, and if you’re going to pitch your shelter every night then they are a better choice.
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