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My opinion is "Boring in design, but extremely fun in practice" They are way too simple but make you feel like a raid boss

Amazed that you did not mention Singed's ult, which literally makes him run faster and deal more damage. Of course, just doing better what he's already been doing.

I think Swain’s ultimate plays well into his power fantasy. As a frontline commanding general but most importantly his theme of seeming weak and crippled only to unleash dark powers on any mortal foolish enough to challenge him And he pops out wings

I think steroid ultimates are some of the more enjoyable ultimates, for both the player and enemies alike. Since these kind of ultimates are just stat buffs and in some cases slight ability alterations , it allows the player to be far more skill-expressive than something like a huge burst of damage. It also allows enemies to easily identify when a champ is ready to fight and gives them time to react. I'd argue most people find swain's ultimate more enjoyable to fight than something like veigar insta-deleting you.

Theres nothing quite like the feeling then space jamming some poor laner and basket dunking them as volibear before mauling tf outta them as a god bear as their tower is powwrless to save them.

Aatrox has my favorite of the steroid ults, as it takes his regular gameplan and cranks it up to 11. It feels a lot more substantial than a regular stat increase. All the numbers in it are tailor made to force Aatrox players to drop the skirmishing/spacing strat they would use in neutral and just go all in. Movespeed boost + low uptime means they're encouraged to just get in and try to kill as many champs as possible as fast as possible, and the extra AD/self healing boost is what enables him to do so. Each kill flashes the screen red, you get a very nice audio boom, movespeed comes back at full throttle, and Aatrox gets even bigger. It's a pure rush of a steroid meant to feed the fantasy of a violent and unhinged warrior god, and I think it does so incredibly well.

I love steroid ults. They're not the most complicated things or usually too creative but as a player they feel awesome. It's that big "kick" that lets you go full "Super Saiyan" for a while. They also highlight an important fact about design -- "interesting design" != good. It can be good but it's not a requirement. Lots of people like simple design concepts too.

I'd love a video on low cooldown ultimates, like Kassadin, Corki, Zoe, Anivia, Kog'maw, LeBlanc, Quinn, Samira, and Teemo. Their ultimates don't even seem like ultimates, but they drastically change the champion once they get them

I think it depends on the execution of the Steroid Ultimate- for instance, Zeri's Lightning Crash changes her Q from a seven-hit burst to a three-hit burst and gives it extra AoE, which is a very noticeable change to her playstyle, whereas something like Aatrox's World Ender is just normal Aatrox, but larger. In my mind, stat-increasing abilities (Ultimates or basic abilities) should be more than just a stat increase. Tristana's Q is just an attack speed increase, whereas Xayah's W is an attack speed increase that also gives a double-strike, and Ashe's Q is an attack speed increase that changes her attacks from one hit to a five-hit flurry. They aren't necessarily that different, since they each serve the same purpose- making the champion attack faster for the duration- but Ashe and Xayah's attack speed increasing abilities are given at least the illusion of being more complex and interesting, even if they aren't actually that different. The same can be said for Zeri's Lightning Crash and Swain's Demonic Ascension- even if they don't actually make the champion's gameplay that different, they give the illusion that they do. TL;DR, I think it ultimately comes down to the *aesthetic* complexity of the steroid- regardless of how much of a change the steroid makes, if it looks and feels like it makes a big change, it won't feel boring.

I think it is creative. It gives a champion a certain identity. Now I shall prompt Riot to switch Whirling Death with Blood Rush. So that my inting abilities can be pushed further.

I'm glad you mentioned Renekton. Dominus is (in my opinion) the best possible way to implement a steroid ultimate. Not only is it a big, cool way of showing the enemies that "it's go time", but you also get more than just raw stats. Renekton could surprise a group of 3 enemies with a gigantic heal by combo'ing R and Q, or he could suddenly decimate an adc who thought they could pick him off with an empowered w. It perfectly enhances the character and his theme. In my opinion, as long as there is more than stats involved, and as long as it also grants more options for the player (to an extent), I think steroid ultimates are better in general.

As a Singed main I’m looking very forward to see what you have to say.

As a Sylas Main I do REALLY love this ultimates

As a Mundo and Bel'Veth player, I personally think steroid ultimates are an amazing way to deviate the focus on their ultimate, and make the rest of the kit more unique.

Personally, i love steroid Ultimates, using them fell like: "Now we are getting serius" or "Lets get this party started" type of moment, they might not be flashy, but they sure are fun to use

I wouldn't call Swain's R a pure steroid. His R makes him go from a pick champion with poor burst to a dps drain tank, . The only thing about his R that enhances his basic kit identity is the E cooldown reduction.

I think they're something of a palette cleanser in terms of abilities. Usually not fancy enough to warrant being the center of attention (like outrageous outplay abilities are), but necessary to give us a break from the overdesigned essays of other abilities. Basic bread and butter abilities like steroid ults may be "boring" but they have a place at the table.

I think of them as: Simple but effective. While they don't have too much depth, just that little boost is enough to change the tides to your favor, and timing is everything, who never felt awesome while pressing R at the right time during a teamfight with Tryndamere, Nasus or Volibear, it feels so good to become an unkillible barbarian while 5 people still trying to smash your face

Maybe for the next iteration of this series you could talk about combo ultimates like Lillia, Vel'Koz, and Vladimir, or spammable Ultimates like Kassidin, Anivia, or Teemo.

There are only 2 options here: -Either your ult marginally improves your basic kit, wich means your champ might as well not have an ult, and it would work the same -Or your champ is only enabled by its ult, wich means the champion is no threat without it There just isn't a lot of wiggle room for mechanicaly expressive gameplay to be had from "press a button for extra stats" beyond "I run from them" or "they run from me"

I miss Ryze steroid ultimate vs the team teleport. He really seems like a battle mage with his old ultimate to use the power of his runes

For Aesthetics, I think Volibear and Aatrox have some of the coolest ultimates. The sense of "raid boss" power you feel when using them. They feel kinda like anime tropes where a character is getting beaten and suddenly unlocks their hidden power to defeat their enemy.

Honestly my favorite league content creator i personally love the natural but realistic outlook on the state of the game

Title of the video: Steroid Ultinates Singed ulti: literal steroid injected The video: no Singed included

You said y’all were trying something out, so I’d like to take this opportunity to tell you that the graphic at 3:36 - where details from the wiki page are more directly overlaid - is very pleasing to the eye and I’d love to see it used again.

Steroids, especially ults, have one more important facets. Enemy's response and availability of counterplay. They are just fair, fair as in readable and clearly telegraphed not actually balanced. Everybody can see that say Vayne ulted and she is about to fight or lose a lot of pressure, both allies and enemies, there is no bluffing, no tension, no surprise. When this happens enemy have ability to respond CC, counter with debuff, disengage or even manfight.

I think Renekton's Dominus is easily not only one of the best designed steroid ultimates in the game, but also ultimates in general. It fits perfectly with his Fury mechanic while also giving you that raid boss vibe and a significant boost in combat power.

Personally I think transformation ults are the best in the game, a temporary massive power boost makes you very powerful while it lasts. Fun to play as, and unlike other ults you generally pop it at the start of the fight so players facing it don't have to bear in mind that someone has a point and click execute or anything like that, what you see is what you get. I do take issue with reset mechanics on them though, as part of the charm is the set duration, knowing if you can outlast it you swing the fight.

They should revert Renektons hp gain from ult, it used to be the highest in the game, now Nasus gets more then him while also gaining resitances AND halfed cd on Q.

Sir, please do not overlook Singed's ultimate since its literally steroids. A mention to Yasuo ult would be nice too, but dunno if that counts. Ty anyways

If only shyvana's final form steroid was actually strong

I like the new take with the thumpnail design, i think ist looks great

I can already tell that forgot the most boringestestessssss steriod ultimate of them all. Insanity Potion. Its just a bunch of stats. All of the ults in the thumbnail alt least have a minimal mechanic added to them. In order And damage/leftleech aura that can be extended in duration indefinitely with proper position + and AOE nuke, "Chain lighting" in every Q + burst damage nova, +Wall jump on Q + void remobras on minion kills, Ok this on is just stats but it used to have the revive component,. max % damage aura.

out of the 4 thumbnails, this is the best one.

the best steroid Ult is Kalista's. You are already throwing by picking her, but with her Ult you can literally throw

Steroid ults are probably my favorite type in the game. There’s nothing more satisfying than seeing the enemy team chasing you on aatrox or nasus and just popping ult and essentially saying “aight sparky square tf up.”

I really enjoy these types of ultimates and the raid boss thingy about them

First, I just want to say that I really enjoyed the video! I revisited since Briar will be coming out to live soon. Nevertheless, I have a comment: 9:05 I made this mistake a short while ago so thought to share. "Begs the question" means that you are, essentially, engaging in circular reasoning. It called the "begging the question" fallacy! What you are actually meaning to say is "raises the question." :D

like how in these videos you can find afew clips of somebody getting insta killed or being inf stunned

I really prefer the Steroid Ultimate thumbnail, with the champ portraits & everything. The old version, with just abilities in a circle, I find quite boring in comparison + the newest version had more information that was also more easily digestible!

Steroids based on lore are great, Riven broken blade upgrade or Nasus/Renek assension, Singed can have a rework based on his current gimmick and steroids (his chemistry)

I love playing zeri Running around shooting everyone is actually fun Until they catch you that is But with volibear you don't want to catch him

Steroid ultimates are by nature good, because they have to take into account the rest of the Champion's kit even if they're simple. Take Jax as an example, his steroid ultimate makes him harder to kill, but specifically harder to kill against his own type of damage, which synergizes with his kit as a hybrid auto-attack focused champion. Another good example is Singed, his ult encourages the annoying gremlin playstyle in the rest of his kit, being perfect to pop when you're in big trouble and the enemy WANTS to chase you down and finish you off. Yes steroid ultimates are, ultimately, pretty simple and can theoretically just be slotted in to any champ design. However these ultimates must also be tailored to the champion they're on to a fairly significant degree. After all Sylas with World Ender just isn't that scary compared to Sylas with a Voli or Nasus ult. Each steroid ult is good for the champion they're on, and loses effectiveness the further from that type of champion it would be put on.

the thumbnails are fine im just waiting for Nasus vs Renek video

Aatrox mains can testify the nut inducing feeling of racking up kills in world ender n hearing the sound play each time. Especially if you get multiple kills back to back.

If there's no steroid Ult, windwall &/or Spellshield comps will be the new meta. And Fiora, Gwen, Pantheon, fizz, vlad, anyone with untargetability here and there. And Crown will be the only Ap mythic item to get, to block those instant ults, where steroid ults just oftens outlasts them.

Singed with no Ult: *Need for Speed* Singed with Ult: *I AM SPEED!*

my two fav steriod ults have to be nasus and atrox they are just so fun to play ecpecialy with all the healing

Surprised you barely mentioned Alistar. Used to be the most iconic buff ultimate in the game, just flat reducing all damage dealt by up to 70%. But with all the true damage and max % health in the game his ultimate feels so much weaker than it used too. Leona W makes you tankier than an Alistar ult in alot of situations and that just feels wrong. Too bad he is so good in pro play because I would love him to see some buffs. Lower the damage resistance but make it apply to true damage as well, or have it scale up with every hit he takes (like .5/1/2% increase and 1 sec increased duration for every damage instance capped at 10 sec)

As a support main. Everytime I go to the top lane I go for "The bigger stick wins" type of champion so i love steroid ultimates , they're balanced enough to get countered and to outplay the enemy

Lulu's ult is an interesting steroid, in that while the buff itself isn't as great as other buffs,(max health and a slowing field around the target) the fact that you can cast it on other Champs and the giant knock-up on cast adds a lot more interesting decision making in terms of who to cast it on or when

4:23 t-posing sona be bing chillin

no mention of singed, a literal steroid that last the whole teamfight and the whole margana's combo

i personally like the old thumb nail focus on the ult icons

Have you considered making a video where you talk about what League could take from other Mobas? For example, they could talent trees HotS or items from Dota 2 like Refresher Orb. You could also about Smite etc

Mordekaiser steals stats from his target if he kills them in his ult. Making him tanky, attack faster, or just increase his bonk's damage depending on who you take in. Which I think is a good way of rewarding a mordekaiser's target selection and lets him have fun after his ult in team fights. Same with Swain. An activee then passive is just soooo much better than hit button and do more of your think

8:20 This is why I like watching your videos, I'm a veteran, but I took a 3-4 year long break until very recently, and every single champion thats come out since then has multiple paragraphs of text per ability, and I wasn't going to read a whole books worth of broken ability descriptions to catch up on what 10-15 champions do. Not to mention that riots tool tips in the client have become absolute useless garbage in the last couple years, when some moronic riot employee decided that players would much rather have a vague description of what an ability does, rather than actual details about it, so you're forced to read the description in game, once you've bought the champion, or you have to go research the champion on the internet. I was playing one of the new champions, and I only realized halfway through the game, that one of their abilities had a full sub ability that wasn't mentioned anywhere within the client, you have to read it in game to have any idea that it worked that way. Or perhaps the worst offender, gwen, whose tooltip for her ultimate must be outdated at this point, because it literally just lies to you. "Gwen must hit an enemy between each cast to unlock the next one." This is literally just not a mechanic within her ultimate. You can cast each of them after a 1-2 second delay, regardless of hitting an enemy or not. I read the description in the client, and then again, for half a game I was playing like I needed to hit my opponents between casts, and it wasn't until I accidentally recast it without hitting anyone that I realized that no where in the spells actual description does that clause appear. This whole game design method from riot of releasing the most overloaded champions ever, and then completely... not even failing to describe them to us, they don't even try. failure implies there was an attempt. So if you want to play them, you play them wrong for a while, and if you don't want to play them, it takes literally months to learn them in game, or quite a while of just sitting researching a champion that you have no interest in playing. I still have no idea what viego does. He just shows up, nukes me, and turns into me, and the only things I took away from that interaction are that he's overtuned as fuck.

funny that he wrote this video before knowing how broken belveth's stats are from her r.

Still waiting for the next in the factions series! Would love to see Shurima or Mt. Targon!

I think that steriod ults are the best type. Instead of something like a super ult where it feels like a legit win button with little skill expression but everything else in your kit is lame, you have something where you go almost "super saiyan" and are challenged on how well you can truly use your champion's full kit. I'm biased because I'm a riven OTP and she has a very OP one, but i think that its better than if it was *just* the windslash because it basically gives you more damage and all these tools to be able to preform stronger in a fight, and then just tells you to make the best of it. It's truly left up to how good you are with the champion, but still super satisfying to activate one and feel like you're doing some kind of anime powerup.

Steroid ult completely change how you play the champ for a short time. Vayne ult makes her so much fun, jumping through shadows and hitting hard.

"They might be strong but they arent win buttons" *Also trynda pressing the funny outplay button and tower diving me

I feel like their is a distinction between classes on that subject. Markesmen ultimate steroids are a great form of skill expression because they offer little protection. You have to position correctly and use it when you get the most out of it.

Anyone else waiting for Vars to bust out the Three Hopes soundtrack?

Singed mains absolutely seething having a traditional raid boss ult, literally just giving him every stat

Pretty much the only steroid ultimate champion i play is zeri. When you use lightning crush, it feels like this is the actual champion, and anything before was just a build up. You basically become the ultimate kite machine for a few moments

I know you probably won't see this, but I would really want to see you make a video on tethers and why they aren't used at all anymore. Tethers have a lot of potential imo and it sucks that Riot has completely stopped making tether effects.

Active: Udyr slaps. I think one of the major design choices, especially for Marksmen is that the vast majority of them work off of steroid type abilities. Dota2s carries function off of passives mainly.

I wish twitch ult was better because it’s so fun, but the fact that people can dodge your autos not just by dashing, but just by being really fast, just kinda ruins it. Instead of having it penetrate people, the ult should make his bolts explode. That way they deal AOE damage like it’s intended but can’t be countered by Lillia existing.

These are my fav type of ultimates tbh

ask any Aatrox player how they feel about getting an ult reset, it may not change how Aatrox's other skills function but resetting the ms and hearing the VFX again is almost like a high

I don't play him, but I think Twitch has the best steroid ult in terms of how dramatically it boosts his threat level and making an impression visually. Though I'd say Vayne or Trynd need theirs the most, and Shyvana has the coolest final form.

hmmm i wouldnt call swain ult a steroid. feels more like a fiddle W and R mashed into one ability

@vars, you left my boy Singed, the poster boy for steroids

Rivens is the best. You start and end a Kill with it. Its like Zed where you have a "commit" Button that everyone can see and react to

I think that the worst designed steroid ultimate is Tryndamere's. It is just the ultimate "fuck you" button slapped on top of one of the most stat checking champions in existence. Due to this, facing him in top lane without specific champions can feel just straight up unfair.

I love Twitch R because it makes you so strong in a fight and I love to glide

Are there enough champions with “fourth ability” ults that have normal cool downs to warrant making a video? Zoe and Anivia are the main ones that come to mind

I think vlad ult can also be regarded as steroid because in 1v1 scenario if they take more damage that means you do more damage. In a 1v1 scenario his ult is equivalent to Riven’s ult.

Tearing through heaven, interesting but appreciated music choice

The best designed steroid ulti is shyvana it makes you feel bad ass it fundamentally changes her and even though its really boring in the case of ap shyv it makes her feel so much better

Morde ult is basically made to turn around teamfights, ult the high magic damage dealer, kill them, then wipe the enemy team with the stolen stats

2:24 and now we can tell Bel vet too

Yea those are great especially when they have a passive part like Jax/Olaf so it feels rewarding to get lvl6 even when you don't use R.

As a Singed main, the non-mention of the champion make me Singed... It's basically a steroid on steroids...

There are more fun and less fun ways to do it. Swain, Voli, and Zeri are really cool ones, Bel'veths and Nasus's seems kind of lame. I feel like Aatrox, Mundo, and Renekton are somewhere in the middle. This is coming from someone who plays a good number of these champions. Btw I'd count Lulu ult as a steroid ultimate even though it doesn't buff her herself.

next video idea: "transformation abilities" i.e -jayce -nidalee -rek'sai

Vars: "Zeri is the most overtune champ in the history of league". Zoe: Hold my beer

My personal favorite, which is biased, is Volibear's because it does more than just give him health. Honestly the bonus health isn't much but the fact he can use it for multiple purposes makes it awesome in my opinion. Sure a bit of hp can help but the gap close, escape tool, or tower dive options it opens are invaluable and make it way more unique imo

I play both League and Wild Rift and in the latter Nasus with ult is basically a guaranteed kill in most scenarios, and can make a 2v3 turn in your favour because of how good it is

ignoring Swain's and Zeri's I don't mind steroid ultimates all that much, they aren't difficult to deal with in my eyes. However the 2 that I mentioned are quite a bit something else... Main issue I have with them is that they can last forever as long as they're in combat which just doesn't make too much sense for how much these 2 specifically give to that champion.

the low quality frog is crazy

Anyone here remember old Sion's lifesteal ult? weren't those the days

gotta say i think nasus has the best, between power and balance of it because yeah can be kited. he gets hp, resists and drains max health.. renekton is still a glorified stun bot, maybe they should take dominus and have him draing like 1/2/3% armor from surrounding enemies (each) +% per 50 or 100 bonus attk dmg, tht way he can actually be.. ya know, a bruiser and counter ad like hes supposed to be

I like certain steroid ultimates partially because I’m an aatrox main but also they are very satisfying to use if ur fed or play them properly but they can also be just as useless if ur down on items and kills

I like this thumbnail better than the last few

i am a Swain main, everytime i ult, i can feel like a human becoming a "demon" and just control the fight like chess

I love “install” ultimates. But it has to change the effectiveness of the character’s moves as a whole beyond just stats. Olaf, Aatrox, Nasus, Mundo, Jax, Riven, Singed, Allistar, Lulu, Master Yi, whack. Just stats, maybe does a thing as well. Renekton, Belveth, Zeri, Vayne Twitch, Illaoi, Swain, Shyvana, cracked, changes the effects and potency of one or more of their moves while also potentially giving stats.

Swain is rly fun in low elo, sometimes no one buy anti heal in game's. If u are feed swain u are Event Raid Boss.