STEVE SUTCLIFFE: Is the latest Porsche 911 GT3 RS also the greatest? 992 GT3 RS v 993 Carrera RS

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Күн бұрын

Steve Sutcliffe compares the latest RS-badged Porsche 911 to what he reckons is the greatest - the iconic 993-series 911 Carrera RS of 1995. The brand new 911 GT3 RS is the fastest and most extreme version yet, but how does it compare to its thrilling forebear?
Steve explains why active aero, huge power, multi-adjustable dampers and more are NOT enough to make the latest 911 RS as much fun to drive as the mid-1990s model.
Read Steve's written comparison test here - www.the-intercooler.com/libra...
#porsche #porsche911 #porsche911gt3rs
0:00 Introduction
0:57 911 GT3 RS (992)
9:40 911 Carrera RS (993)
15:10 Conclusion
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@DM-MayBee 22 күн бұрын

Steve Sutcliffe is one of the very best .............. 10 out of 10 to Steve and the Intercooler team.

@VladiDusil 22 күн бұрын

I may be showing my age here, but if given the choice, I'd go with the 993 RS every time. It's smaller, raw, air-cooled, and has three pedals. Different strokes... Great video, chaps.

@Carrera-gp9od 22 күн бұрын

I agree 100% , then I have to consider the looks . There is no way I could drive the modern one , it’s ludicrous, it makes the previous generation Civic Type R seem tasteful! It really is that bad .

@carlosrieum1526 22 күн бұрын

@@Carrera-gp9od thats crazy... the 992 rs looks stunning

@MrRoyck10 22 күн бұрын

Nah you are showing good choice not age!

@rahulmandala4930 22 күн бұрын

@@Carrera-gp9od Well, if you really prefer the understatedness, there's the normal GT3 and even the Touring. I love the fact that the new GT3RS is purpose-built with function in mind and while that function is put to motion, it becomes beautiful.

@blaya58 22 күн бұрын

Well I’m 19 and I’m the same 😂! Lots of love for the older raw cars. Got a little bit of that feeling in my e46 (25 years old now). 😯

@stevethrillhouse 21 күн бұрын

Steve Sutcliffe and The Intercooler? Match made in heaven.

@institutmorningkiss 21 күн бұрын

993 RS is sooo much more pertinent and desirable in 2024 than a brand new RS

@jamespopovic9750 22 күн бұрын

Steve sutcliffe car review.... say no more I'm watching

@garethholden301 21 күн бұрын

Having just moved from a 981 Spyder to a 993 because the Spyder was too quick to enjoy on the road (90 mph in 2nd gear, when the roads I enjoy are 50-80 mph) the 993 is a revelation completely engaging, with a close ratio box that means you are continually involved, I’m hooked!

@SgtHail 18 күн бұрын

Which 993 did you go for?

@garethholden301 16 күн бұрын

Non Vario C2, it’s had a remap and suspension refresh, lovely analogue road car

@alistairmckay9856 21 күн бұрын

993 RS CS - last of the air cooled master pieces. I love mine and will keep it until I die or can’t get my leg over the roll bar anymore.

@Inazuma68 21 күн бұрын

I drive a 996.2 GT3. Maybe a bit of both of these worlds. Strongly underrated

@institutmorningkiss 21 күн бұрын

Agreed. Yours is the peak. And I've owned pretty much all RS and GT3 models

@detonator2112 21 күн бұрын

Amazing car. Those are what... 100K now? That's a steal. 993 GT2 was sold on Sotherby's for 2.4 million. Those 996's are true car guy's cars and great bargains. The special models 964's and 993's are absolutely ridiculous. They won't even get driven but they're picked up by some rich collectors who just store the cars.

@ricardoperes8612 22 күн бұрын

In a perfect world we would have both in the garage! Love the engineering on GT3 RS and love the purity of the Carrera RS.

@porscherain 22 күн бұрын

See Sutcliffe, I watch

@detonator2112 21 күн бұрын

One of the best car presenters on KZfaq for sure. Really knows what he's talking about. A genuine car guy.

@rjung_ch 21 күн бұрын

The same with me, found this channel only because of Steve in the title.

@HiddenWen 21 күн бұрын

Intercooler grabbing Steve (or having Steve feature in a few videos) is a great move.

@stevenbates7181 21 күн бұрын

I had a 993RS about 25 years ago, proper car🤩

@TheBucketOfTruth 22 күн бұрын

I think unless your commute or local road is something like Angeles Crest Highway or similar, the 992 will be completely overkill. The new cars are so fast that on a road like this it'll barely be breaking a sweat and will be somewhat boring to interact with while the 993 will even at low speed be talking to you and tickling your senses in a way the new cars just do not, especially at low speeds.

@jackal2513 22 күн бұрын

Great vid. Fit the welded in M003 clubsport cage into the 993 and the car drives twice fast and twice as good again … i did this and drove it all over Europe for 8 years, sublime.

@roscoecoltrane6867 22 күн бұрын

These reviews of the ‘top end’ RS - old and new, are well and good, but what I’d love to see are reviews of the ‘bottom end’ in the Porsche ranges - e.g. early/original entry-level Boxster/Cayman compared to latest entry-level Boxster/Cayman. And early/original entry-level 911 compared to latest entry-level 911

@VK6AB- 21 күн бұрын

Well said, you'll have more fun in something like a base 981 Cayman with the 2.7L engine or a 981 GTS with the 3.4L engine. Engaging, light, visceral and go round corners as if on rails.

@cjpriustt 21 күн бұрын

I’d take the 993 RS for streets and hills, and a Radical for the tracks.

@marcoseirik 21 күн бұрын

The spiritual successor to the compact simplicity of the 993 Carrera RS is in many ways the 718 GT4 RS.

@user-qn6yt3zx3w 22 күн бұрын

The new car is perfect for ‘cars and coffee’. The old car is perfect for a Sunday morning drive in the countryside.

@rahulmandala4930 22 күн бұрын

I could also see the new car being perfect for tracking too!

@user-qn6yt3zx3w 22 күн бұрын

A formula Ford is a tenth of the price and a lot more fun… Makes even the RS feel like a bit of a bus.

@rennstreetpodcast 21 күн бұрын

The new RS is soooo much more than for Cars & Coffee. It’s an animal in the canyons, it eats up tarmac in a way that makes even the most mediocre driver look like Hans Stuck behind the wheel. It’s an absolute monster on track and would put a lap on a Formula Ford. Then u can drive it home and stop at the drive thru on the way home. Then ofcourse, you have that wing in the back to use as a table to keep the chili from ur Chiliburger from dropping onto your beautiful Alcantara, er Racetex, Seats. Don’t get me wrong, the 993 RS is a fantastic car and probably a lot more visceral at slower speeds. But the new RS is a performance car designed to be exciting at any speed, even at Zero speed from the moment you give it a twist of the wrist to start it up. Though, like u said, that 993RS would be perfect for that Sunday Morning Countryside drive 😊🙌

@gentmason6693 21 күн бұрын

bury me in my 993 Carrera (with RS engine mounts & thicker anti-roll bar) - I absolutely love it. car far life - would sell my V12 vantage S over the 993 in a heartbeat

@detonator2112 21 күн бұрын

993 RS for me. WAY nicer and rawer. Hand built car, air cooled, stunning peak Porsche. The new one... fast and furious... insane track capability... amazing car for sure... but that very large size leaves me cold.

@cassian88 22 күн бұрын

3:33 jump scare in the best possible way

@robschirle4546 22 күн бұрын

I’m surprised no one has mentioned a comparison between the new 992 ST and the 993 RS, with the ST it’s back to the original ethos of the early RS cars, lightweight, strong engine with a precise gearbox and shifter. In my opinion Porsche nailed it with the ST, the drive is sublime yet the car is modern, between 7-9k the sound is just incredible and you notice the weight reduction in a similar way to a 993 C2 versus the RS.

@detonator2112 21 күн бұрын

The power and driving difference between a standard 993/964 Carreras and their RS variants is not big at all. Just about 25 hp, lower suspension and some weight saving measures. I find it quite surprising that Porsche didn't "tune them up" more back in the day. Ironically now those air cooled cars are the most desirable Porsches but back then Porsche was on a brink of a bankrupt. Maybe they didn't have the money to make the RS models more different (give different engines and all that). Just think about it. They sold about 60-68K of each 964 and 993 and half of them were cabrios/targas/tips. And they made 250.000 units of 991 alone. Those now most coveted air cooled cars 964 and 993 didn't sell that well.

@itsnotagsr 19 күн бұрын

Any clown can buy the latest super car. But a true enthusiast combs the back catalogue for the masterpieces.

@GeordieAmanda 22 күн бұрын

Yay, more Steve! Just buckling in and getting ready for an epic video (as always 😊 )

@johnmorrison27 22 күн бұрын

Yep 993 all day long 👍

@madsdgdhg 22 күн бұрын

These cars and presenter deserve at least 1080P 60fps. Just saying...

@anonalog 22 күн бұрын

agreed. Hard to watch!

@clinttube 22 күн бұрын

Yea this looks ridiculous it's hard to watch. Flipbook style

@AbandonedRaven 20 күн бұрын

I want both equally. They both look so clean and sound so good. If anything, I just don’t like the colors and spec of this particular 992 GT3 RS. If it was in the same yellow I would like it even more.

@noelagostonkovacs4475 21 күн бұрын

I just love how the 993 is so much smaller on the road! You have more road to use even isnide the lane but the 992 fills it up almost full

@detonator2112 21 күн бұрын

Actually the better comparsion would have been against 993 GT2. But I understand. Those are not easy to find for a review.

@Nick-qx1vf 22 күн бұрын

Like the 993 im from ‘95 and I really cannot get behind the current GT3 RS. I love that it’s a technical work of art but I’d take that 993 every single day of the week and twice on Sunday. But I’d be even happier in an RS 4.0

@sergio_81 22 күн бұрын

993 all the way

@yossarian3 22 күн бұрын

Great vid! Well written. Two thumbs way up.

@gilbertomendes9496 19 күн бұрын

Steve Sutcliffe incomparable ... always the Best

@ernestomorales2487 16 күн бұрын

Good to see you Steve! And yes .. for me 993 all day long or any day of the week.. no question about it. It's not a question of age it's all taste!

@williambellisIII 21 күн бұрын

Man. Sutcliffe is just always spot on.

@encoreunefois1X 21 күн бұрын

My perfect video, Steve Sutcliffe and a big bowl of Porsche.

@shannongovender1652 22 күн бұрын

That 993 need Porsche classic radio

@steinfossgard5210 22 күн бұрын

Great video!

@Barryeggingbode 13 күн бұрын

Great review Steve.

@shaunmccormack6980 22 күн бұрын

Such a pleasure to hear a man who can properly peddle who doesn't sound like a twat. Ace

@markblake4425 22 күн бұрын

2 great cars one great video👍

@ammaralfuzaia4933 21 күн бұрын

great video and very great reviewer this is now my best channel

@MercSLRFan 22 күн бұрын

720p?!

@TexasRiverRat31254 22 күн бұрын

The modern 911 is an engineering marvel for those that never really learned how to drive without electronic "nannies" to make them feel like a hero.

@SS-oj4en 21 күн бұрын

It’s about the manual it allows an undeniable intimate connection. The standard GT3 in a manual with a mechanical diff and the ability to turn all the driver aids off completely is a drivers dream at any speed.

@DCBath 21 күн бұрын

I have a much loved 993RS Touring. Fab car. It’s everything Steve says.

@jeanlouispicard9501 21 күн бұрын

993 rs is more fluid, nice, more charm. The latest is like an enormous elephant close to 993

@geoffclarke3796 22 күн бұрын

The 992 GT3 RS is a fantastic piece of kit and is one of the very few modern supercars I actually like thanks to that brilliant engine and dynamics but I'd prefer the simplicity of the 993 RS to the tech overload of the later RS.

@cromulentparty 21 күн бұрын

crazy quality fellas

@cromulentparty 21 күн бұрын

The audio mixing needs work though, noticed it in a couple of your vids.

@ivanove 21 күн бұрын

Great job Steve 👍

@urock12201 15 күн бұрын

Really well written and presented. Sutcliffe's the boss.

@johnnyresistance 22 күн бұрын

2 dream cars, stunning!

@richboy900 21 күн бұрын

3:33 made me jump, but was worth it

@hotguk 17 күн бұрын

Man, was this shot in 8K? The screen pops!

@paultucker1272 21 күн бұрын

It feels weird that cars I first started reading about when I first passed my driving test (4th July, 1988 for the record!) are now pretty much classics! I attended supercar-fest a few weeks back with my son, and the supercars and hypercars were incredible, but the ones that I connected to most were a Testarossa and a Countach. Oh, and the Ford GT40. I guess it's an age thing. Don't get me wrong, I admire the latest tranche of sports and supercars, but their crazy speeds and crazy prices lists leave me cold. Give me a blue collar car that gives you thrills at legal speeds (but I'm having an Aston DB12 when my numbers come up lol)

@paulw5822 22 күн бұрын

Steve, don't forget that 1104 production number for the 993 RS, includes 213 road registered RS Clubsport variants, which I feel would have made a better comparison to the 992.1 GT3 RS?

@karespratt5131 22 күн бұрын

Pretty sure the one in the video is a clubsport variant as it has the rear wing and front splitter

@paulw5822 22 күн бұрын

@@karespratt5131 I can assure you it is not a factory CS. It is a regular (wonderful) RS fitted with the optional CS spoiler kit. I have owned both variants and the CS has no interior trim or headlining, a full welded in cage, cloth seats, a single mass flywheel and steel syncros in the shorter ratio gearbox. To be clear the car featured is a very nice example of a 993 RS.

@y0057 22 күн бұрын

@@karespratt5131it is definitely not the clubie version

@detonator2112 21 күн бұрын

@@paulw5822 Looks MUCH better with the standard default RS wing.

@911aircooled5 17 күн бұрын

Well said Steve. The 992RS is brilliant, no question! But maybe to good. For me, 993RS all day long, mainly for the analog feel.

@billshoe22191 20 күн бұрын

Analog > Digital Just look at the 993 GT3 RS steering wheel and you have your answer

@billnorblat4047 22 күн бұрын

I'll take the 993

@EricKanavathi 22 күн бұрын

This test feels like a father and son battle on the road. But here's my short take. If you are aiming to shave lap times on the race track, the 992.1 GT3 RS is your ultimate track weapon to maximize its power and potential. But if you just want to enjoy the peaceful, nostalgic drive at the countryside or B-roads, the 993 Carrera RS (or any air-cooled 911s you can think of) is the choice.

@freezersnout 21 күн бұрын

I'm hoping it's still processing but it's disappointing to see this limited to KZfaq's very low bitrate "720p." I'm not sure if this was a time crunch or a pipeline issue or what, but I would bet my left nut that this was shot in 4k. Steve's great and the visuals are beautiful even blurred to hell.

@henryking-yiuleung7273 21 күн бұрын

There is not even one second you hadn't have a smile on your face when u are in the 993! 992 well perhaps half is the time 😅

@Scuderia_Ferrante 21 күн бұрын

Exactly! PDK novelty wears off and true enthusiast will be longing for a manual.

@888mf4 21 күн бұрын

Nice review Steve. 997 GT3 RS for me if I wanted manual. GT4 RS if I wanted PDK.

@pjay3028 22 күн бұрын

Don't forget the 997 GT3 RS.....! Possibly the perfect compromise between these two, and therefore even better than both?

@aja4191 20 күн бұрын

The 993 RS is more smiles per miles all day long.

@dj_zioneer5853 22 күн бұрын

We love you Steve

@carfan3762 22 күн бұрын

Two mighty pieces of 911 history you have here. And each in their own way and period are obviously absolutely fabulous. I get your point when you say Porsche ought to go back to some extent and produce 911ses which are more closely related to the simplicity and directness of the 993 RS. With the 992.1 generation, maybe the Carrera T and on the upper scale the GT3 Touring inhabit and express quite well this soul you are seeking. Seems that it might be more complicated with the 992.2 generation, but who knows ! Porsche may have quite a few nice surprises for us. Where alas the 993 will never be matched again is for its exquisite dimensions which cannot be replicated in a contemporary 911. Still, what on earth am I complaining about ! 😅😎

@detonator2112 21 күн бұрын

I wish Porsche went back to smaller sizes. These old air cooled cars had perfect look and perfect sizes.

@carfan3762 21 күн бұрын

@@detonator2112 I absolutely agree. The last reasonable sized 911 was the 997 generation 😎

@rogeritt88 21 күн бұрын

One is immensely capable the other is true manual and more involving. Would take the 993 anytime.

@smiffyLevel6 21 күн бұрын

Hi Steve - I would love to see the comparison between the 993 GT3 RS against the 2018 Cayman GTS 2.5L 4 cylinder, it would be very interesting?

@callummccubbing4506 22 күн бұрын

Gonna be honest, I skipped to the 993. I'm sure the 992 is fantastic but I just have no interest in it.

@meady200 21 күн бұрын

Incredible vid incredible cars. Like if you kept trying to wipe that bit of lens dirt off your screen, too.

@adrianlukestylist 21 күн бұрын

I wish all manufacturers would listen to Steve. And make all new cars “More Engaging”!

@DouEditz 21 күн бұрын

Came from a Top Gear video, I didn’t finish it. Finished this one

@tiborkoppersable 19 күн бұрын

It looks like What Steve Sutclive is looking for is the 992 ST or the Cayman GT4RS, since those are both more lively, simpler and lighter then the 992 GT3RS

@daenglishpatient 21 күн бұрын

As even mid-price SUVs can crack 0-60 in 4 seconds or less, I seriously wonder when "enough" will be enough. The average muppet driver maybe ... shouldn't even be trusted with something that has 1000 bhp and will hit 200! And while we are all suckers for "more", as we watch market competitors like BMW, Mercedes-Benz and Audi launch new cars within 1 or 2 bhp of each other ... and we can get addicted to YT channels where Teslas drag race Ioniq 5s ... have we lost the plot? The human driving a GT3 RS across quiet roads early in the morning .... can't compute/ isn't interested in pure numbers, but only how the machine they're in FEELS. And make them feel. Great piece, Mr Steve. Thank you. I'd have the 993 any day.

@detonator2112 21 күн бұрын

I think the acceleration times and top speeds have lost their appeal. I was just watching a Carwow video where a Kia $30K electric car beat Lamborghini in a drag race. LOL. Who gives a toss about those numbers anymore?

@wrefordmiles 22 күн бұрын

Both those cars are very special because of what they are - If you ignore that and go just on the behind the wheel feel, steering, precision, real world pace and feeling of involvement then the manual Cayman R or 987.2 Spyder (similar in weight and power to the 993 RS) offer something that touches on some of the greatness Steve mentions for a price (c£45k) that means those experiences he describes are reachable for many

@geoffreybean8691 22 күн бұрын

Only if I had the coin for either of these. Both are versions of the same thing, one is just the evolution with all the tech, aero, safety etc to go with it.

@co2588 16 күн бұрын

Love the 993😊

@markrhoden68 21 күн бұрын

One good old-fashioned scalpel compared to a right up to date laser scapel. Both scalpels, both designed to do a job but from different era's

@porscherain 22 күн бұрын

Agree, after a few pulls to 9K with a paddle flick it all becomes a bit boring. Give me old school with shifter for engagement.

@qikqbn77 21 күн бұрын

For money is no object track day weapon... GT3 RS. Track is the only place to fully enjoy this car or even begin to touch it's limits. It's limits are so high that driving it on the street would be frustrating. For enjoying the overall driving experience, no matter how slow or fast on the street or canyon, the 993 will probably tick all the boxes.

@ernestomorales2487 16 күн бұрын

Amen and Amen

@stevewhite9653 21 күн бұрын

Lets face it there all amazing 911s, but for me I would have the 997 GT3 RS.

@mattb4353 22 күн бұрын

I'll take the better looking 993

@doggiehowzer Күн бұрын

The car for the 993 RS to go against is the 992 S/T

@Nikko40691 17 күн бұрын

C'mon guys wheres the 4K? Or do I need to sign up to the membership?

@wat6816 19 күн бұрын

will you do a road test of a DC2 Integra Type R?

@modernworldiscrap 22 күн бұрын

air-cooled for me

@mosca3289 22 күн бұрын

993 RS in white, please.

@user-of4zt2jt8c 21 күн бұрын

993 rs

@etaesu83 22 күн бұрын

How do I subscribe to everything Steve Sutcliffe?

@justinfrazier9566 22 күн бұрын

I'll take the 992. Thanks.

@sonicpentatonic 21 күн бұрын

how the hell is this video not available in anything higher res than 720p50?!?!!

@dcode1000 21 күн бұрын

how did that pink bottle disappear at 8:46? i didn't look like it fell off, just vanished

@alecrl1 22 күн бұрын

Steve can you review the Spyder RS without getting involved with the roof. If Porsche GB don’t give you the press car you can use mine.

@bendummer8084 22 күн бұрын

As a contrarian I'd have a 964RS...

@detonator2112 21 күн бұрын

Lovely car. I really like how understated the 964 RS is. Only the suspension gives it away. 964 and 993 are the peak Porsches, imho. Whichever you prefer is a taste thing. But Porsche should go back to smaller sizes and the old design, definitely.