Those Regas are beautiful. I'd like to move up to something like a P3 if I bought a new TT right now. I'd have to save for a few months but worth it.

I bought my system (receiver, turntable, and floor standing speakers) used, but it was to replace an entire system of the same components (except a 45w Yamaha instead of the original 100w) that I lost. So I bought all my gear new and used. Even now I've bought some bookshelf speakers and chifi stuff, and some was new and some was open box discount, so still used and new.

Darko is rude in thr comments and Robinson is just plain creepy.

Very good! I agree!

Same here.

Thank you so much!!

Geir Røssaak from jessheim, Norway. I totally agree! American gear has allways been great!

just asking I know Nagaoka is well loved and im about to but my 1st TT in about 35 years.can you say what makes that your preference?

Well simply because it is a great sounding and propably one or maybe most musical cartridges for the price ....and it tracks like a king , even better than many more expensive cartridges....@@Ian-wh8ut Way better than the Ortophon at the same price ....It reminds me of the Shure M55E ....a spin off of the V15 at that time....

@@frankgeeraerts6243 Thanks so much Frank!you really gave me something to chew on.

Very good tweakerman! All hifi people should have a power cleaner and a farraday grid around their house!

Some hifi idiots are concerned about speaker and signal cables! They should try pure gold!

I own both of them though my Orbit is the Gen 1. I can't tell a difference regarding the sound quality. I used a Ortofon 2M Blue and a Sumiko Moonstone cartridge on both units conne ted to a Schiit Mani 2 phono preamp. They are running even but.....the Fluance has one advantage that's hard to miss and that's the detachable headshell on the Fluance.

I have the exact same turntable as you, it's fantastic. I added a Schiit Mani 2 phono preamp (noticeably better than the Pluto 2) and a Sumiko Moonstone cartridge which is a huge upgrade from the Ortofon 2M Red.

@@moonytheloony6516ah, yes, that might be my next purchase - a Schiit Mani 2 - if I don't "go crazy" and spend more to get a Moon 110LP v2. I have mine "level" but think buying the $80 isolation/leveling feet would be a good investment. The reason I'm thinking of the Ortofon Blue is that I have the Red on it from the factory. I can just replace the stylus and wouldn't have to futz with alignment and all that like I would if I got a new cartridge. But I have heard good things about the Sumiko Moonstone. Enjoy! That's the name of the game.

Fantastic, let us know what you think of the change to a new turntable. This music feel different or better?

Several years ago had issues with my dust cover falling down all the time and had U-turn send me a new pair of hinges. The dust cover has stayed up as it should, but this is the one detail I find real fault with U-Turn on. I can't imagine using real metal hinges would add that much to the Orbit's price. I know I would pay a few dollars more to not ever worry about my dust cover falling down at the wrong time.

@@popofthebop Yes, really unfortunate. Seems like a simple thing they could have put a bit more effort into. Thanks for the comment. Now I don't feel so bad being critical about this. I am in the market for a new turntable and will replace mine soon.

The other part I forgot to mention and I don't have much empirical data on this, is that there were at least 5 to 7 record pressing plants from the 70's through the late 80's in NYC. That also helped to bring down cost.

$4.95 is high $40s in today's (2023) dollars by the official inflation statistics that are probably too low.

Well I too have a p6 mine with exact 2 and its great. The neo really helped, a p3 without it ran very fast. Anyway cheers.

I’ve bought vinyl for nearly 50 yrs and many modern albums are made to better standards than the old stuff

I have noticed that a lot of the newer vinyl is rather thin and flimsy. I have also been receiving new albums that have a spot or two on them that distort the sound when the needle makes contact. They won't clean off, so I have to return the albums.

Some aren't great, but that was always the case. Plenty of poorly mastered 1960s and 1970s LPs. That Dorothy Ashy LP, remastered in 2021 is excellent.

@@TheDjcarlos67 I’ve bought a few and like digital they are over compressed and the DR is very poor. 🤷‍♂️

@@st200ol I had to return a copy of Back To Black Amy Winehouse, it was the worst pressing I’ve ever heard. The half speed Abbey Road version is excellent tho 🎶

I totally agree!

The anti-skate is built-in.

An expensive upgrade may be the neo. I have a p3 elys 2 as well. Recently got a p6 exact 2 and the sound is better in part cause the p3 runs wayyyy fast like 10 secs a side.

@@JohnDoe-np3zk hi John, thanks for reply , when the elyis 2 wares out will be looking for another quality cartridge, I am looking at neo but second hand one or a new mk1 version . May I ask when you play a record and when it gets near the end do you get a slight mums hum pick up. Apparently his does happen, I spoke with phill at Cheshire audio he’s confirmed it does happen on p3 . Regards mark

@@6643bear yes the p3 with elys 2 is hummy at the center. Cleaning up my wiring and moving away from speakers helped some. The p6 with exact 2 and neo does not have that problem. It has some noise but not noticeably more in the center. I should try the p3 with the neo but kind of lazy. Also that little rega mini dac with a/d is a decent unit soundwise and synergy with the rega. May help your hum a little. Cool to make files on computer too.

@@JohnDoe-np3zk hi John, I have rerun the phone cable I have good quality one , I had p3 motor housing earthed no joy , I even spoke with Phil at Cheshire audio and he’s says it happens , never had issue with rp2 Yeats ago and just hoping when I pic up a neo psu may get rid of it , Phil also says that there is not much shielding on the elyis 2 cartridge that’s the reason why. Regards mark

I use ifi zen v2 dac using iPhone on Apple Music and Amazon music

Try harder not to be a dick head

$40s to high $40s in 2023 dollars.

I reviewed the theory last year!

Thank you sir. I watched your review and hit the like button as well. Now I want one even more.@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

No digital there as far as I know

"Digital turntable" (a small one) = Compact Disc player.

Discogs

Is that the problem?, Because it seems to me you don't really know what you're talking about. You know I agree that a record that's 60 years old won't sound as fresh as it did when it was first played but that doesn't mean it's not enjoyable. And to just make a blanket statement saying that all old records are worn out is highly inaccurate, and truly shows an inarticulate and ignorant understanding of the subject matter at hand

Tell me you know nothing about vinyl records without telling me you know nothing about vinyl records.

You're correct, the soundstage on that Dorothy Ashby LP, was clear, big and spacious!

Ok, thanks.

I've bought around 100 LPs, I was unhappy with 3 or 4.

I highly disagree, with this. I mean I think currently owning Rega p6 but having also owned a P1, the sonic difference between the two is not as huge a gulf as you think. To simply make the statement that you have to spend $1,000 to get good vinyl playback it's just ridiculous and I personally think it completely usurps the point of the video that Steve is trying to make, which is the you don't need to spend that much. My favorite budget turntable has to be the sony pslx310. Currently you can buy it from any local Best buy for $250, and it produces a very enjoyable pleasant sound, and no it won't destroy your records and all these sorts of arguments. I mean where do you people get this stuff, do you notice your precious records being destroyed by a $500 turntable versus a $100,000 one? And personally I think this sort sort of attitude that you're displaying here really is a huge turnoff to the whole idea of people getting into it to begin with. You know the mindset that you see from 2012 that people had about the crosleys, and for some reason you haven't done any investigating since then to educate yourself that a lot of new under $500 turntables are actually fantastic. Why don't you go get some education about the quality of modern budget equipment and then come back when you have sufficient knowledge to really know what you're talking about

@@Audiorevue You have the right to believe what you want ..”obviously” somebody with a really expensive system is not going to buy a $200 turntable, and by the same logic, a person with a budget system is not going to buy a $2000 turntable. Whether you choose to believe it or not, there’s a reason why expensive equipment exists .. it’s not just all about “snobbery,” as some seem to believe. There may be people that want quality, and are told it’s a waste of money. That’s not fair either. Put all the “ideas” on the table, and let people decide for themselves! Edit: and if you feel so strongly about this, why did you even bother upgrading! “Sounds” hypocritical to me.

@@shipsahoy1793 no I've heard the u-turn, not the new one but the older one and my only complaint was it ran slow. I mean better equipment does exist for a reason obviously, however your original statement led me to believe that you think that budget equipment is worthless and furthermore the only way to get true high quality analog playback is to spend a ton of money, which I completely disagree with. You know I mentioned the Sony and that is a fantastic turntable at $250, actually when I heard it I couldn't hear much of a difference between it and a Rega P1, me personally as a audio enthusiast I believe keeping it simple is better than complication.

One does not need to spend $500 on a turntable to get some sonic pleasantry. Sonic pleasantry can be achieved at any level because the listening experience is always subjective. Price points are not a promise, it's at best an expectation and though high end systems can often deliver; they can also disappoint, and cause one to miss the their previous cheaper system. I've seen this happen. It's been talked about on this and other channels more than once for a good reason. If you feel that a certain price point influences your experience, that's your opinion of which you're entitled, however I do not agree.

@@moonytheloony6516 Actually, that depends on how “picky” you are, and it also depends on the rest of the system that you connect it to; aside from that, I don’t really disagree with anything else you said, but you do have the right to your opinion, for better or worse. I’m just here wondering what it is about current culture that people have to be so emphatically in disagreement when they read some thing on the internet that they don’t agree with.

I have two tables with that belt design and I haven't had any belt issues.

Utter rubbish

@@BishopFrost-il9gl all new stuff is born inside a computer, all old analog tapes been digitized, else the recording deteriorates. You keep believing in your analog fallacies which are actually digital , While some of the old pressings end of 70s fromward might have still used an expensive Studer with 2 playback heads and a mechanical tape loop for delay during mastering, everything vinyl from 2000 and probably before, comes from a digital archive or production.....analog my foot.

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