Yeah but one thing I should point out is that the new Marantz Model 30 is suited to American speakers that don't sound like any other, it uses the Fleetwood Sound Deville, driven by a Class D output. In England Model 30 needs a KEF R5 Meta and in Europe it uses a Dali. If we recall the old Radio Shack catalogs with 'Good, Better, Best' system pictured, matched speakers were the ONLY ones that gave best sound. People wrongly matched up something cheaper and the RS got a bad name because, it sounded cheap, right? Why ever did it sound cheap I wonder.

So wild!

Yeah but back in the year 1977 the wide-band harman/kardon A 402 had 'gentle slope' tone controls, with 'turnover' buttons and the 20-20 F.R 330c had steep slope tone controls because it depended on you know, our equipment. If we had poor sources, we'd need steep slope and if we had good sources, well we wouldn't need tone controls at all. They were for worn tape heads and poor sources.

I miss my old Harmon Kardon. Wife kept it in divorce even though I bought it. @@keplermission

@@keplermission I forgot about that. A few of the old Realistic and Pioneer receivers had ‘turnover’ buttons also.

@@bikdav Yeah but Pioneer you know, did best with Pioneer speakers. Bang & Olufsen or Realistic did best with their own brand of speakers. Tone controls are often used if we have the wrong speaker hooked up. A wide-band amplifier has to have a low frequency speaker, like it goes down to at least 35Hz and up to 30KHz. If you have a Bookshelf with 50Hz, then you're going to be boosting up lows with a tone control. If your amplifier is only 20KHz? You're going to be boosting up treble with a tone control.

@@keplermissionmouth diarrhea

Thanks for watching that Shelly Manne is special, but the sound is not! Not awful, but definitely compressed.

Wow yeah, it was only like yesterday that Steve was out in the street pointing out Andy Warhol's old factory in NYC and I thought ... you know ... when was the last awful time I heard that name Warhol? Just to say it was that old John Lennon, Yoko Ono, NY connection and Steve seems to have some good feeling about the city in 1980. Wow, just a year before Sansui Super-Compo launched and these systems, the sets used to slide into racks like drawers and with their own tower speakers made like 3D images, brings it all back but they were grim times.

You know ... visual appearances? Back in the early 1970s everything was hid behind speaker grille cloth and SONY used a 4 inch Coral full range unit that was very loud for not much input and everything was engineered to sound fantastic run together as a system. Painted baffles might be fun but, cause reflections, it's why Goodmans Achromat Sigma and B&W DM.3 have leather baffles and why the Reaistic Mach One has a simulated leather baffle. It's to foil reflections.

Super cool speakers. I regret not getting a pair second hand last year. They were state of the art back in the day.

You know Leak Sandwich that were 16 ohm? They were the AlNiCo motor 600 model made by Rank and back then ... Goodmans used 16 ohm on account of you know, the Radford tube amplifier speakers. Well I mean how long ago is that? There were still steam trains in England!

Adding to the "to be considered" list. Thanks. (need that strong bass though)

At 100db, that would make your tooth hurty. 230?. I'll see myself out.

@@peterlarkin762 Not sure I’ve heard of toothaches from loudness although this certainly will wreak havoc on one’s ear drums and hearing. Have a good New Years mate

Thanks for sharing Antonio! Enjoy!

Thanks for watching, you can listen to the album on KZfaq! I just checked, but if you enjoy the music you can buy the CD or LP. Not cheap.

Totally agree, IAG is making $ just by changing the clothes, so easy haha

Hello 👋 Happy New Year !😊🎇 Can I ask you a question?

'Value?' Well you know what? Everybody talks about Marantz 40N but nobody talks about B&W 702 Signature, they're the flagship matching speakers. So lets talk about tone controls and ... 'tone the sound down a little'. The other speaker that we HAVE TO use with 40N is the KEF R3 Meta. Anything else is not 'value'. Anything else is a mistake just waiting to happen. Don't buy the old KEF R3 in any SALES.

Made by Lii Audio in China

You know the actor Yul Brynner had a commercial that came out after he'd died (in NY) and famously said in it: "Don't smoke...", well it used to be a case of 'Don't use 18 inch speakers', and to cut a long story short, if we look at the Box data for Lii Full Range 18 inch, they're not Open Baffle tolerant, now that's not being a spoil sport, caring about Hi-Fi you know we have to know our stuff but it's a beautiful room in the Audio System of the Day. He might have read that Open Baffle would increase sensitivity but Single Ended, has lower DF, so it might not sound as good as it could.

Is there ARC without an HDMI connector?

@@TriAmpHiFi That’s a good question. Not that I’m aware of.

... 𝘥𝘰𝘦𝘴 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘰𝘧𝘧𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘯𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘰 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘴𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥 ? If you like the wood, interact with the wood, it's a positive attribute of the listening experience ... it sounds better.

@@FOH3663 No. Sorry. What you meant to say was " it makes you THINK it sounds better". Back in the late 70's I owned a Luxman cassete deck that had gorgeous rosewood panels on both sides. Pretty sure it was solid wood too, not veneer. Did the wood make it sound better. Hell no. The only way I "wood" pay extra for wood now was if money was no object. Unfortunately, these days, money is always an object. Besides I spend more time listening than I do looking. But it is a cool retro look for sure. By the way, I bet you have great cables in your system!

Well the wood idea was what we used to call a 'tuned chassis', the steel cases used to spoil the sound but after the 1977 year harman/kardon A 402, steel cases might get a reprieve. But it was an awesome design for the JBL Century L100, it's a truly stunning American piece of kit. The Realistic STA-2000 has a 'tuned chassis' and it's miles better than a Carver MXR-130 with its fake wood cheeks but the Carver was used by the Midwest Klipsch community, RS were in the south.

@@boneseyyl1060 No speaker cables except the 10awg from PartsExpress feeding my quad 18" attic IB. System's all active, w/Canare Star-Quad balanced XLR runs laying everywhere. The salient point above was 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯. If one appreciates the way it looks, and 𝘪𝘯𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘵𝘴 with it. It's going to sound better ... it adds to the listening experience. It's our endorphins, serotonin, dopamine. It works, but only if; a.) you dig it, and b.) you interact with it. So, ... you don't like cable lifters?

If recording sounds poor on many different systems, it's not a good recording. Of course sound quality is always subjective. I'm sure the people that made the recording thought it sounded great. If the music you love doesn't sound good to you, you need to make changes to your system.

How big is your room? My room is about 12m x 8m and my Leak 230 and Lintons play much louder than I’ve needed. I’m not having a dance party though.

@@Z4d0k 6m x 5m sized room

Heard this from a few people now. I’m using the 230 with my Lintons and it’s a nice match. Plenty of punch and sounds full. MUCH better than the Yamaha AV amp I had previously, which sounded anaemic by comparison.

It was a Leaked product.

My Lintons go pretty hard with the Leak 230 :)

What are you using for your amp now?

@@wicomms Audio Research Reference 110

@@Habitual_Liartqs. I am using Denton 85 with marantz pm 6007

Wait you are using a USD 35k amp for your Denton?

I have a wooden-cased, late-1960's Leak Stereo 30 Plus amp. It belonged to my late pa and I also have the original user manual. To be honest, it's an ornament as I stream my audio for practical reasons but it's a handsome piece.

So it was called a Stereo 30, thought it most prob' was via old memory. I bought mine for ..well, it would have been £7'ish - to £15 tops in 1977'ish when I was 20 or 19, tho in time adjusted £'s, that was > a quarter to a half of a weekly wage for an apprentice payed 20'yr old, so I was still fussy when I splashed out a tenner or more on a vintage valve stereo amp, or a good brand s/h solid stater, and my v.first real hi-fi deck (Thorens T.D.150 for £12, inc SME 3009 (> one 3'rd my weekly wage) in 1977, it lasted for 2 lster 'arm upgrades & i was a bit disappointed by my first compliance -matched Ortofon (s/h) M.C. cart' but 1 week later, the deck was dropped into an overly deep & huge lump of highly compressed fibre-board i'd jigsaw'd out the minimal area & depth for the succhasis, screwed down the top plate large overlap with many lines of brass screws & for whatever reasons of physics, i have notions, that became the biggest upgrade in sound regaurdless of money, that i'd ever heard to this day, from 1 single "before & after change" no hyperbolé, the surprise alone was a gobsmack & the new realism of sound saw albums played until friends left & sleep took me over. I don't do the streaming thing but lately, i think more & more about getting something set up, for when I get a song or tune in my head & a strong hankering to hear it & it would lead to 1 or 2 others i'd have to hunt down for or may not even have. The two flowers singing to each othef in the Delibes piece haunted me recently for 15++ mins & I couldn't exorcise it away, not having it, I don't mind streaming coming out the room's main speakers or something less, but i'd like to avoid turning the stereo on stereo on but have a quick access solution for near instant music with no more than a flick of a switch, or less. I've even made a start by watching a vid on budget streamers. Btw, if you had the Stereo 30+'s original box & packing also, i'd have thought that would fetch a hefty price if it's near mint, I heard they particularly like good Brit' vintage gear in Japan, or used to.

@@thespotlightkid1011 I also have the matching Leak tuner. The cabinets polish up nicely using beeswax. My office rig is essentially Apple Music 'lossless' streamed via router to a MacBook. USB connection to an iFi Audio Zen DAC and then RCA cables to Kanto TUK and Kanto Sub8. Probably heresy to admit this on this channel (which I v. much enjoy) but I'm more than happy with it.

@@wills681 Yeah but Kanto TUK are powered speakers right? What do you need a Leak amplifier for? Kanto Tuk are for small spaces you know, Hi-Fi is for big places.

@@keplermission Yes. As I mentioned in my first post the Leak amp is now only an ornament. It is a 1968-vintage amp which might have very tired circuits so it just sits here, unconnected, looking pretty. I use the MacBook/Zen DAC/Kanto TUKs in a near field (1.25 metre) set up in my office. It works v. well.

Well, they do both proudly emboss "Made in the PRC" on their cases. doh

Nothing wrong with that.. 8300 is a good amp

@@kingtubby999not at all, but if I know that, then lots of people know that, so why don’t reviewers comment on it?

Right, I forgot to comment on that! Knob feel is good, but nothing special.

Thanks! Happy new year!@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

I just turned my antenna 90 degrees so I can’t see it. Still streams music from my phone beautifully :)

@@Z4d0k here's the thing though... you never ever see these types of BT devices with the antenna hidden.. its always on display. The benefit of the wooden case is it doesnt have one. That was my entire point.

Is that bc the quality of what your listening to is subpar?

Why dont buy a DSP ? Way better and acourate to tune it how you like it

I haven't used tone controls in years I have a tube amp & tube pre amp and to my ears they sound pretty sweet as is 😅

Chris' setup: ♥ wow

​@@vtkz ... acourate? A fascinating Freudian slip! (Acourate Convolution) Well done!

It's such a well produced album, sounds great on CD too.