"A time will come when instead of Shepherd's feeding the Sheep the church will have clowns entertaining the goats"~Charles H Spurgeon
@juliettejohnson35102 жыл бұрын
absolutely
@jamezbond78 Жыл бұрын
Charles Spurgeon was a freemason and false teacher.
@dotcassilles14883 ай бұрын
You mean the man attacking Steven furtick is a clown? Yes I agree. John is very devisive. I think the bible talks of this very issue. Why does this guy John repeatedly attack Christians? It's a pattern in his life. He calls himself a theologian and says he follows what the bible teaches. whoever publishes this channel that introduces itself as a tool for discernment but publishes online bullying without context really needs to learn the definition of "discernment" and the difference between biblical discernment and the trashing of someone's reputation, passing on gossip and incomplete information
@TheCallToWorship2 ай бұрын
Words bro..WORDS
@jshawn773 ай бұрын
Sad that MacArthur wastes his efforts tearing down someone else..... I have received a lot of healing as God has used Pastor Steven....
@RonaldLil2 ай бұрын
Steven was literally playing with water guns in his sermon. Jesus rebuked the pharisees for leading people astray. What Steven is doing is essentially child's plays in what's supposed to be a teaching of the word of GOD. This is leading people astray
Including clips without context is a good way of getting people to watch. It's weird to me that the first guy (John) wants to talk about juvenile behaviour of the church, gives the example of Steven furtick and calls him unqualified... All while playing a juvenile game of "say a one word description of.... (usually another Christian)". John has repeatedly bullied people online who he doesn't agree with. A concerning pattern is that he uses "pick n mix" techniques without explanation. This channel states that it's purpose I'd for "discernment" but I only see clips spreading rumours, gossip and incomplete information
@jasonsmith32023 жыл бұрын
Romans 16:17-19 ~ I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. 2 Timothy 4:3 ~ For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,
@dotcassilles14883 ай бұрын
John is very devisive and repeats the pattern of attacking Christians and not giving context or explanation. To "discern" the truth we need to know the context, all that was said both by John and by Steven Furtick. We also need to refer to our bibles to see the scriptures for ourselves and pray. This channel just copies clips from other sources, passing on gossip, rumours and incomplete information.
@paulbeaudry57913 ай бұрын
@@dotcassilles1488 But Steven is no longer Christian! He's denied the Trinity much like TD Jakes and a few others. There's a word for that: TREASON!!!
@lisamasteller38513 жыл бұрын
come to me as little children... God uses who he chooses...who is using you, you judge your brothers, if you have a problem, give him a call, don't sow division within the church, oiy
@Bernie15856 ай бұрын
“God doesnt call the qualified… He qualifies the call”
@carolinasosa461813 күн бұрын
Well that's not what the Bible says. He demand us to look for some very specific qualifications on the men for the calling to ministry (1 Tim. 3, Titus 1) and you just prove that shallowness in the understanding of the Biblie is real.
@Bernie158513 күн бұрын
Thats fine if we dont agree, but really with the “shallowness” attack? The Bible also says act with gentleness. Were the disciples qualified too?
@carolinasosa461813 күн бұрын
@@Bernie1585 “shallowness” is not an ''attack, like please, its a qualifying adjective for a certain way of teaching. And yes, by the time they were filled with the Holy Spirit in Acts 1 and after a 3 years intensive course by God Himself in the person of Jesus they were ready and qualified and we can see it in the whole book of Acts.
@eriksaes1996 Жыл бұрын
John is unqualified!
@AmberDennis0019 ай бұрын
How?
@SharonLopez-tm6dj Жыл бұрын
Everyone is unqualified.
@Sutpii Жыл бұрын
Talking about unqualified, all the legendary in the Bible were “unqualified” and yet GOD use and praise them nation to nation. Noah was a drunk, Abraham was too old, Isaac was a daydreamer, Jacob was a liar, Leah was ugly, Joseph was abused, Moses had a stuttering problem, Gideon was afraid, Samson had long hair and was a womanizer, Rahab was a prostitute, Jeremiah and Timothy were too young, David was an adulterer and a murderer, Elijah was suicidal, Isaiah preached naked, Jonah ran from God, Naomi was a widow, Job went bankrupt, John the Baptist ate bugs, Peter denied Christ, The disciples fell asleep while praying, Martha worried about everything, The Samaritan woman was divorced (more than once), Zaccheus was too small, Paul was too religious, Timothy had an ulcer…
@RonaldLil2 ай бұрын
Difference is all those you listed came to know the one and Only True GOD. AS for some of the examples you listed, Leah being ugly or Joseph being abused this has nothing to do with their understanding of GOD Almighty, rather it's individual circumstances that they had no control over. Steven literally went on record calling HIMSELF "God Almighty" preserving the gospel by saying when God revealed his name I AM to Moses he was also giving Moses that attribute as well. It's Blasphemy and its why the Bible says beware of false prophets and people in sheep clothing If you'd defend the gospel as much as a false prophet you'd understand how dangerous this is
@ursulajenni65213 жыл бұрын
What is just as shamefully disgusting is the the laughing crowd! Unqualified! What a „gracious“ answer by the most qualified! Thank you.
@doctrinalwatchdog62683 жыл бұрын
I bet you think Jesus sinned in Matthew 23 too. SMH.
@victoriacrowe56103 жыл бұрын
Disturbing
@mr.hibster96033 жыл бұрын
@@doctrinalwatchdog6268 ?
@arielberry30574 ай бұрын
Wow I have lost all respect for John MacArthur…. Who made him God and asked him to sit on his throne and judge? He should be happy that Steven Furtick has led so many people to Christ and starting a relationship. Guess what buddy, you are just as unqualified as he is. God doesn’t call perfect people, even if you think you are. Acting like that is one of the reasons Christianity gets a bad rap. Just wait until he sits before God and has to answer for it, he will change his mind….
@lee-annebarrett3663 жыл бұрын
Thats dumbing down church.
@BruceThePugDog2 жыл бұрын
Furtick is his competition over book sales.
@nathanmccreery9142 ай бұрын
This is such a telling moment. Of course Furtick is unqualified. Truth to fiction; so is McArthur. Just as the the Pharisee in the New Testament proclaiming his own righteousness, while the sinner cried out "Lord have mercy on me", in humility. If we are qualified in our own minds that leads to pride and self sufficiency. Furtick readily says that he is unqualified. So I give you to choose. BTW, I am no fan of Furtick, though I have listened to him a few times. However, when one puffs their self up I have to wonder; who is the Pharisee and who is the sinner in that equation. God never calls the qualified because their self qualification leads them to pride. He will call the unqualified because in his humility he must depend on God.
@Jeepjones852 жыл бұрын
The whole reason Jesus came to earth and died on the cross is because we are all unqualified. There are even several accounts of this in the bible. David and Goliath, Saul before Paul, Peter denied the Lord 3 times. But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; I Corinthians 1:27
@austin56402 жыл бұрын
Someone’s clothes doesn’t matter for preaching. I mean of course if it’s over the top then they shouldn’t but not everyone needs to be in a suit and tie
@NorCalGospelHerald2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you! There's nothing in scripture that says one must dress in a suit to meet with a local church. At the church I attend everyone dresses casual. How you go dressed to church service doesn't mean anything. One could be dressed casual and be a fundamentalist than one who is dressed in a suit and be liberal.
@austin5640 Жыл бұрын
@@mevangel9898 that's how pharisees sound. just making up rules. one should dress appropriately as not not bring attention but that doesnt mean a suit is necessary. you can wear a t shirt and jeans. it doesnt matter bud. stop making up rules that God doesnt care about
@amazingjables5 ай бұрын
@@austin5640eh it matters a little bit more when you're standing behind the pulpit, friend.
@skylerdotson45432 жыл бұрын
I’m confused. What exactly qualifies John McArthur over Steven? Experience? Popularity? Education? A suit instead of jeans? -just curious what the qualifications are.
@doctrinalwatchdog62682 жыл бұрын
Sound doctrine. Furtick is a false teacher who twists God's word.
@lydiapeterszollner75572 жыл бұрын
@@doctrinalwatchdog6268 no Steven furtick doesn’t twist Gods words he preaches from the word of God so stop picking on men of God like Steven furtick John MacArthur is not a man of God if you want to know a false pastor it’s John MacArthur
@doctrinalwatchdog62682 жыл бұрын
@@lydiapeterszollner7557 Furtick does not teach the Bible. Ma'am you clearly don't know what Bible preaching is. You have been deceived.
@lydiapeterszollner75572 жыл бұрын
@@doctrinalwatchdog6268 I do know what Bible preaching is I come from a family of pastors my father is a pastor so yes I do know what Bible preaching is you don’t
@doctrinalwatchdog62682 жыл бұрын
@@lydiapeterszollner7557 with all due respect, having a father who holds the position of pastor does not prove anything. So do I, does that automatically prove that I am correct? Do you understand what a false teacher is and how to identify them?
@YeshuaIsTheMostHigh5 ай бұрын
What interview was that from? I'd like to see it in its entirety.
@shotpusher3 жыл бұрын
It’s shameful those types waste their platform on stupidity.
@Vanessa-ck4pv2 жыл бұрын
“Give them bread and circuses and they will never revolt.”
@rooshawnp Жыл бұрын
Name one person in the Bible who was qualified. Last I checked it was the Lord who qualifies and not man. Instead of using this time to uplift he decided to tear down another Pastor and it’s ashamed.
@Tyu769 Жыл бұрын
When man’s doctrinal understanding is biblical, he is not the one who is tearing down anyone, Christ is speaking through him, Macarthur is just a messenger of God. You are mad at God, not Macarthur. I will pray for your salvation sir
@shakeenasmith119311 ай бұрын
@@Tyu769exactly!!!! People just choose to keep believing nonsense
@1983aufan5 ай бұрын
Steven Furtick thanks you for the Unqualified comment because he named his best selling book from that comment. Nice and I don’t even know him
@dotcassilles14883 ай бұрын
If you want to find Steven furtick on KZfaq you can try "elevation", that's the name of the church he and his wife Holly started. ... Steven is a good preacher, relateable. He uses stories about real people and the struggles they face and refers back to scriptures. To me he brings the bible stories alive and helps me to apply the lessons to my life. He serves an international community of Christians. I find it funny that the man calling Steven furtick "unqualified" resorts to name calling and bully tactics and then talks about the church being juvenile. He also talks about shallow teaching, shallow worship, etc, but then follows traditions and rules set up by men. He seems to be a hypocrite, arrogant and his words are very devisive. I think he knew that he would get attention by attacking/accusing a preacher. It's a part of a pattern which he has repeated. Blessings from South Eastern Australia, Dot
@boopdoop2251Ай бұрын
I don’t think the man who excommunicated and publicly shamed a woman for leaving her abusive pedophile of a husband is qualified to talk badly about any other pastor.
@dotcassilles14883 ай бұрын
Sharing this clip that is basically gossip, juvenile behaviour of online bullying and name calling is not discernment. Is there a reason you don't include any context or explanation, referencing of scriptures, links to the full conversation from John or the full message preached by Steven Furtick? I guess this is another click bait title so you can get views rather than useful discussion of the different views. Seeking to share incomplete information for monetary gain...
@niozify2 жыл бұрын
And who makes this guy think he is qualified?
@policiamostert1059 Жыл бұрын
No one can judge but God. Its shameful what people use this platform for to judge others. Rather than judging Steven Furtick use this platform to preach the gospel and the bibld. Its because of Christians like you that non christians dont believe in God. We dont support one another but break each other. How will we be able to build an army for God if we stand divided ?. Steven Furtick preaches from the bible and not only preach but motivates. And if he is not who is says he is God will be judge of his actions not men
@NorCalGospelHerald2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter how one is dressed to a church service, not every local church dresses in a suit and skirts. What I do notice though with some pastors is that they dress trendy and look like teenagers. But at the end of the day, that's irrelevant. A local church that dresses trendy or even casual can be very conservative and fundamental than a local church with suits and skirts and be liberal. How a local church dresses doesn't define whether they are liberal or a fundamentalist because how one dresses to service is really irrelevant, unless dressed immodest.
@mnight2072 жыл бұрын
What does this have to do with anything?
@HebreosCincoDoce-nt8rxАй бұрын
📜 Galatians 1:10Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ. 📜 John 4:23Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” 📜 John 17:17Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth. 📜 John 6:63The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you-they are full of the Spirit and life. 64Yet there are some of you who do not believe.”
@firingallcylinders29493 жыл бұрын
In the words of Shai Linne: Where are the Whitfields? Where are the Spurgeons? We need sounds theology to deal with reality.
@laymensbiblestudy27492 жыл бұрын
Spurgeon would rebuke Macarthur for being worth over 14 Million Dollars and bad mouthing every preacher that decided to dare do something different.
@hunterkent71313 жыл бұрын
Steven Furtick is not a man or a pastor, he's a boy who needs to step down from pastoral ministry and go back to his room and think about what he has done and needs to repent of any sin he has done.
@debragrewar973 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 you guys are all "woke" with eyes wide shut lol
@tim4cn7593 жыл бұрын
I remember when a little boy named David beat Goliath and became the Greatest king in all of Israel 🇮🇱.. there's no place for cutting down men and women of God.. as long as they Love Jesus and they are doing what God wants 🙏 🙌 that's all that matters
@tim4cn7593 жыл бұрын
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Matthew 7:1-2
@debragrewar973 жыл бұрын
@@tim4cn759 lovely reply. So sad that people can judge what they don't understand. Pretty much what the religious leaders of the day did to Jesus
@tim4cn7593 жыл бұрын
@@debragrewar97 I was just talking about this with my wife and I said to her that everyone who Jesus chose to follow him was unqualified in man's eyes but Jesus knew what he was doing and he also was treated like that as the scribes and holy men who were also Jewish did not accept his teaching and said it was blasphemy... Amazing how wrong we can all get it?? None of us can see what God sees .. but the goal is to try and ask yourself would Jesus have said anything like this to us? Or about us?? I don't think so...
@johnharrybunagan9092Ай бұрын
Sure, the 12 apostles were qualified...what a boomer
@jeremygross9922 жыл бұрын
Im sorry, but Pastor MacArthur is wrong. Elevation is designed more like the NT Church.
@Joe-uk3rg2 жыл бұрын
satire?
@rebekahkingbello9560 Жыл бұрын
@@Joe-uk3rg 😂
@tim4cn7593 жыл бұрын
Bible Gateway Matthew 7 :: NIV. "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
@omarbofoable3 жыл бұрын
Don’t cherry pick a biblical text without reading the whole context of the scripture. We’re called to Judge. John 7:24 Judge with Righteous Judgement
@tim4cn7593 жыл бұрын
@@omarbofoable first off those words are the words of Jesus and second you forgot some speaking of cherry 🍒 picking... John 7:24, NIV: "Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly. '" John 7:24, ESV: "Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”" John 7:24, KJV: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment
@omarbofoable3 жыл бұрын
@@tim4cn759 exactly sir you just proved my point were called to Judge John 7 are also words of Jesus Christ.
@tim4cn7593 жыл бұрын
@@omarbofoable good for you 👍 👏 ✨ 4🌟 ⭐ 🌟 ⭐ stars for you
@tim4cn7593 жыл бұрын
I guess you can read it however you want to Budd
@randystevens16902 жыл бұрын
Search the Heart, and Mind of Jesus daily, and take inventory of yourself, reading the Bible, praying for the scriptures, to set you free, from the worldly Deciet. There are things that are obvious to the believer, but read, read, read your Bible for the things that will even fool the Elect.
@stacygilmoregreene65954 ай бұрын
People are usually threatened by a different way and new approaches to ministry. Pastor Furtick is ahead of his time! ❤
@xingcrawford57773 ай бұрын
No he is not
@jindodogg3 жыл бұрын
Pastor John MacArthur's proclamation aged very very well.
@jeremylakenes6859 Жыл бұрын
John MacArthur is not a solid Bible Teacher... his opinions are not worth much.
@lina8524 Жыл бұрын
Someone’s bitter. 😂
@Dryboneslive Жыл бұрын
Better yet disqualified
@michellebrown28532 жыл бұрын
I wonder what MacArthur would have thought of John the Baptist's antics had they been contemporaries. I think I would have probably had some concerns about that bug-eating, shouty prophet.... which is disconcerting to say the least. Jesus, please help me to discern better because I think I might listen to my mind more than Yours. Help me Lord. Help us all.
@dongledong50393 жыл бұрын
oh wow! a preacher using an illustration! how dare he! how could he have done that! and he’s funny! oh no! everyone watch out! there’s NO WAY God could have ever allow humor to be used as a way open up hearts so people can hear the Word of God!!!
@janiswilson26453 жыл бұрын
Trouble is they're not hearing the word of God. They're hearing a foolish little boy preach.
@jincy58493 жыл бұрын
The problem isn’t the illustration, the problem is the unsaved, heretical, narcissistic toddler of a pastor who makes the Bible a pretzel.
@dongledong50393 жыл бұрын
@@jincy5849 lol i’m sorry pls read your comment and ask yourself if the Jesus from the Bible, the Messiah who came to save the lost, who came to save lives and transform them, would think of the words you wrote. You called him unsaved? i’m sorry, i didn’t know you were holy enough to say who is saved or not? you called him a “toddler of a pastor” lol i’m not a fan of his teaching but you seriously think insulting someone by calling him a toddler is the best way to be an ambassador of Jesus Christ? even if you disagree with his theology, the most mature thing you could do is pray for him. sorry friend, i read your comment and i don’t see the heart of Jesus at all.
@jincy58493 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b558fa9ivr3UqKM.html
@candicemyers793 жыл бұрын
Steven Furtick’s response: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7ummK6pstPYl30.html
@JosephThomas11052 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for the inspiration for the book! It's a New York Times best seller in case you didn't know! Also has changed and continues to touch the lives of millions. Unqualified huh?
@1517the_year Жыл бұрын
Yeah still unqualified.
@saintfrancis96192 жыл бұрын
Idk about futrick but it’s clear as day god Called mcarthur to be a preacher
@TheSimpleTruthOne8 күн бұрын
You are all unqualified, because, your imaginary “God” only lives in your minds. “His” word is full of contradicting lies, which none of you are able to accept. Why is that? Is it because you are qualified readers, or unqualified? All believers are unqualified. Those whom are qualified, leave “His” sheepfold. Good luck to you poor 😢 unqualified souls.
@petemiller98652 жыл бұрын
Both are unqualified Furtick and McArthur... the Prosperity Gospel and Calvinism are both heretical....🙄🤦♂️
@doctrinalwatchdog62682 жыл бұрын
How is Calvinism heretical? So Charles Haddon Spurgeon was a heretic now? smh
@louisewhite32772 жыл бұрын
mcArthur is an extreme reformist, a cessationist, & a Calvinist...WRONG!!! He has good stuff on the Roman Catholicism as he talks about their idolarties
@juanmaldonado87542 жыл бұрын
He is right.
@PATTONSFOLLOWER2 жыл бұрын
He called it!
@timtatum63772 жыл бұрын
Who is this opinionated everyone -who-disagrees-with-me-is-wrong .... person....anyhow?
@chrish57912 жыл бұрын
What a shameful and stunning contrast to the martyrs and the saints of centuries past.
@rosea23504 ай бұрын
Steve said he’s God, enough said. 😂
@cassandragarcia55482 жыл бұрын
John McArthur is the one who is "UNQUALIFIED"...as well the Doctrinal Watchdog who does these videos to make money on KZfaq!
@bigg12882 жыл бұрын
Ma'am for you to say that either you have not listen to John MacArthur more than that little bit you saw and you have not watch more videos of the Watchdog other than what you just saw. Because if you had you would know what you're saying is absolute stupidity. It's also possible you don't know who Steven furtick really is. Either way you need to read your Bible more and pray for discernment; For I perceive that you are the exact type of person who likes silly, goofy, and childish preachers who don't preach about salvation, repentance, and Jesus Christ. But rather you are drawn to preachers who tell you everything's going to be okay everything's going to be good just keep believing and sending money.
@FallouFitness_NattyEdition2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I've heard some ludicrous statements in my life, but that ones takes the cake. John Macarthur is one of the greatest pastors/teachers to ever preach the word of God. Do yourself a favor and watch "Self Deceived" by John Macarthur. You will learn what it really means to be a Christian. Then watch some teachings by R.C. Sproul to really learn more about God's word.