Same. I felt like I was there and a fremen myself, witnessing a prophecy.

It was a powerful moment. Not because it was inspiring but because of the deep dread that comes with it, knowing where the story goes. Paul basically goes full-Daenerys in GOT final season but if Daenerys survived the throne room and sent her armies to torch entire countries full of people. But then multiply that bodycount exponentially (to say the least. 7.5x the current population of Earth dies in the war). Dune Messiah is going to be VERY dark.

My favorite scene of any movie in years

Worm ride scene as well and when he drinks the liquid. Worm reveal in final battle

That is Hans zimmer

saw it twice in Imax.

You do realize that there’s already a movie from 1984 with many fans (me included) and a series which was also pretty ok..

​@@deebuggerwe don't talk about Lynch Dune.

When someone says a book is unfilmable (did he actually read the book? Is this his own opinion or is he just quoting someone else?), and there's a film about the that book, and some people like that film - why can't we talk about it? Are we living in a void? Thanks for your clarifications!

@@deebugger it has indeed been said that Dune is a challenge/ nearly impossible to translate to film, Lynch tried his best in his own time (mixed feedback about the results, opinions vary) but it's not because Villeneuve overcame the difficult challenge himself, and succeeded, that we should constantly remind everybody under every comment that Lynch's 1984 movie existed before? It's ok, we understood:)

@@Slen_ ​​​⁠ I agree - I just thought it was a bit silly for someone to cry (see original comment) by this crap adaptation..

Yes, my husband thought Dune 2 was even better than the first one, and he REALLY liked Dune 1!!

@akim2154 it's a lot better than the first one. Part one was about learning how to make Dune a movie.

True!! But I still beleive that arrival was the most perfect movie of his

@@anonymous891 Not anymore

@@janmajer4662 even now my stand is still on arrival although dune 2 is a spectacular but its not exactly perfect on second wacth meanwhile arrival was also unique and had an extremely strong message.

@@anonymous891 I'm okay with that as long as you don't say that '84 Dune is better than the new one 😂😂

@@janmajer4662 84 dune was masterpiece cant compare it to dune 2. Especially the worm ride scene they literally nailed it.(more like nailed a hole into the head ofc dune book lovers)

Each their own separate fully realised world but that still counts I suppose.

Fincher ? Coen Bros ? Guy Ritchie ?

Lanthimos ? Lars von Trier ? Caspar Noe ?

@@lXlElevatorlXl All great! (And shouldn't that be 'Gaspar Noe'?) But I maintain: Nolan and Villeneuve are in a different league, if only for how they attract the best talent both in front of- and behind- the camera as well as their adeptness in using cutting-edge film technologies such as IMAX.

I wish they would have shot one or multiple short films for KZfaq like they did with Blade Runner 2049. Something that would give a little history to the Universe of Dune and how they are all descendents of Earth.

What?

She’s going to come around I think they needed a cliff hanger besides the jihad to leave the audiences on. A more bitter sweet ending.

Oh my goodness Graeme does look a lot like Ray Stevenson, good eye!

Dude at the time were Star Wars was released they already was 2001 space Odyssee The empire strikes back is cartoon compared to 2001 you can’t really say it’s sci-fi yet it is Sci-Fantasy and in that regard it is good And dune is way more epic than any Star Wars film ever was

Totally agree - but what did you expect Spielberg to say, on stage, next to Villeneuve? “Man this movie was as boring as the day is long! Good thing I had my AirPods so I can listen to Joe Rogan…” 🤣

Dune has a better audience score

I don’t think these people watched the movie, they probably only watched the trailer.

Yea people who don't like it don't have much cinematic literacy. The depth and hidden meanings of the story are found in the subtleties of the movies; that if you blink you will miss. These movies are not for the lazy watchers who rely on dialogue and exposition to understand what's going on. And it may take several watches to understand even for the most seasoned of cinema goers. This is why these legendary directors who live and breathe cinema as their life with countless masterpieces under their belts like Dune and you don't.

⁠​⁠@@ga1actic_muffinit’s always fun to join the masses and poke fun at the kid who’s yelling about kings and clothes.. But just how cinema-literate are you? Can you honestly say you remember anything from the soundtrack? Can you explain how the Fremen are always clean and fresh, having never taken a bath in their life? Can you think of why we had to watch Feyd Rautha do his Gladiator thing, with no real risk to himself? What was the point of showing the emperor - other than to be able to put Walken in the credits? But no.. you have to show your superiority by claiming (with no real proof) that you’re a film savant. Bravo.

@@deebugger cinematic illiteracy was not meant as an insult. i mean it purely on an objective manor. cinematic literacy is a skill that is learned. Steven Spielberg has learned this skill i think it's safe to assume wouldn't you agree?

@@ga1actic_muffin totally agree - Spielberg is one of the greats! I just don't think his word is the word of God, and I happen to disagree with him - see other comments I made here to understand why.

I certainly think it's genuine. I have seen a lot of movies in cinema, a lot of great movies, but Dune part two is the single best cinema experience I've had in my life. More than two weeks have past since & still can't stop thinking about it. It's not surprising that someone with Stevens eye for cinema & film would be even more impressed.

Paid? You think Steven Spielberg needs a paycheck?🤦🏻

awww because Mr Spielberg doesn't agree with your opionion? lol

I'm curious if you've seen it yet. I was not a fan of the original 1984 version but the first installment by this director was very well done but a tad slow...this one is incredible. I really think you should give it a chance if you haven't seen it.

Read the books many times...could have used more dialogue but the ending was fine!

The ending led to a third movie having to diverge even more - a wasted opportunity to continue this story “as written”..

Just because it is different doesn't mean it is bad. It is an adaptation after all.

​@@carontorliak2760 you're right! I agree that not every diversion from the original story is bad. I'm certainly not one of those "purists" that need to have everything "as written" (see what I did there?). Even the 1984 movie had a rain-storm outside for some reason at the end (why?). But I still feel that the very ending shot (Chani's face) signaled that she's the most important character here - and I don't think that she is.

@@carontorliak2760 I didn’t say it’s bad but I wish Villeneuve had gone with a happier ending like the 2000 Syfy version or the Lynch version from 1984. The lines in the book are beautiful and the relationships Herbert crafted are reflective of each other between duke Leto and Jessica then Paul and Chani. The Chani Villeneuve has crafted is immature and whereas Herbert’s is a wise warrior.

This comment will age like milk.

Couldn’t agree more - those two and a half hours lasted forever! However you shouldn’t annoy the fanboys, because then they’ll have to think for themselves - that, or give you a stupid response like our pal @nekroneko here, who couldn’t bring a single valid counterpoint.

Agreed. The mark of a good film is something that sits with you days after, and something you’d gladly want to take a friend to and see again. Not the case here, I’d sooner watch paint dry.

@@cheswajda I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks that.. KZfaq is so full of raving reviews and glorifying comments, that it feels like I’m betraying humanity itself if I don’t like this movie.

Hater...loved Dune since 1983.. This is peak cinema

Thank you for your polite response! I love it when people label other people they have never met.. To the point: Dune is in my top 3 books (the others being Starship Troopers and Lord of Light), and I've always loved the Lynch adaptation. I think Villenueve is a marvelous director - Arrival, 2049 and Sicario are incredible movies! - but I think he went full Nolan on this adaptation, and that's not a compliment. This movie is, well, too clean! Fremen who never shower are always looking sharp, evil is very much subdued (recall the David Lynch Baron treating himself to a young servant leaking blood from his heart - exquisite!), the pace is uneven, and we hardly ever see any worms at all! Oh and Zimmer's WAAAAA is amazing - but only if you're seeing Batman Begins for the first time (which is the only Nolan movie I like, along with Memento). In any case, this is my own viewpoint, call it (and me) what you will. Thanks again for your response!

You read the book and said the movie was predictable Also a Movie being predictable is no criteria for a bad movie nor for a good movie dune is no mass movie a lot of people don’t like the movie The movie is not perfect but the most people that really care about movies liked the movie I also liked it very much and I am very critical about it

I habe similiar problems like you the sterile look the empty lifeless endless long halls of the fremen etc But still the movie was so great in other regards that I can live with it

@@lXlElevatorlXl valid points - this turns out to be a good discussion! So, yes, I've read the book, and still would have expected to be surprised. But it's more than that: - Where are the mentats? Why did they completely remove them? - Why can't we see more Sardukar? That one scene on Salusa Secundus from the first movie was amazing! I wanted more! - Regarding the Harkonens, I would've liked to explore more of Giedi Prime. In the book there's one scene where Feyd Rautha is being punished, and his punishment is that he has to strangle every single girl in his harem - amazing! Instead, we get a pale, diluted and watered-down version of him slicing some girl, which lasts for a single second, and then a short and pointless knife battle in which there are zero surprises. What have we learned about him? Am I supposed to be intimidated? Where's the risk to Paul? - The Fremen are either too stupid ("as written! as written!"), or too smart (Chany is on to the Bene Geserit's super secret plan to install the Messiah from the get go) - so which is it? - There's no real struggle inside Paul. It's like "I'm totally not the Messiah" for the longest time, and then at some point he's immediately "I'm totally the Messiah!". Where's the journey? Where's the character arc? - What about exploring the emperor and his daughter? They come, they see, they're being conquered - easy as pie! Paul literally walks up to them, blade in hand, and not a single Sardukar - the emperor's blades, mind you! - is willing to challenge him? The emperor himself is just a feeble old man who is controlled by a feeble old woman - boring! - Why was the end altered? Are we rewriting the book? To what end? The sequel will have some explaining to do, undoubtedly diverging even more. That's it for now, I would be fascinated to know what you (not KZfaq - YOU!) think!