Does An Electronic De-Sulfator Really Repair A Battery?? See Real Results

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3 жыл бұрын

I found four 12 volt, lead acid batteries with four different problems. I tried to repair them with an auto battery desulfator. Two worked great and two did not work at all! Including a riding lawn mower tractor battery. Watch this video to see if this tool is right for you.
Steve is testing an electronic battery de-sulfator to see if it will rejuvenate, restore and repair lead acid batteries that don't work anymore and make them work again.
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@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

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@keithfarley7093 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve I will have to add a desulfator to my collection of treasures .Thanks for the info

@alan6832 2 жыл бұрын

I have one just like it. It is really made for rejuvenating middle aged batteries that still work but had more power when new, so I have been misusing mine by using it on very weak batteries. My experience is that they very slowly, over the span of months, have increased the power on my very weak batteries, which I use in my camping trailer. I still have yet to attempt to start an engine with either of mine and though they have more power than before, I doubt either could start an engine yet. But I still have it working on one even as I type.

@alan6832 2 жыл бұрын

I got sick of cycling my desulfator and was getting marginal results even from many cycles, so I combined my desulfator with my trickle charger, enabling me to just leave it on for weeks and even months with no action on my part. but even after months, on a very old battery, results have been mediocre.

@mgamga9476 2 жыл бұрын

That's great. I think I will buy one. Thanks for all your help. I have repaired a lot of small engines thanks to your videos. Also I can now fix just about any small carburetor.

@mgamga9476 2 жыл бұрын

This guy claims to know a lot about these small engines...Well he actually does. Anytime I have a problem with.(snow blower, lawn mower, weed wacker, blower, etc.) I go to his channel and there is a video to fit my needs. Great KZfaq channel.

@andhewonders 3 жыл бұрын

I met an old man at a dump in Kalbar, I worked there, he used to get the failed car batteries, if the sides of the battery weren't bulging from plate expansion, he'd pour all of the acid into a bucket, he'd then fill each cell with water, then he'd drop a Denture cleaning tablet into each cell, he'd leave it over night, then tip the water out, give each cell a gentle rinse out with a hose, then put the old acid back in, and charge it up, he ran a backyard business doing that... That's another way to remove sulfation from a battery.

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 3 жыл бұрын

Just dumping out toxic lead salts? Not very smart of him.

@Seal00754 3 жыл бұрын

Epsom Salts is said to do the same (Magnesium Sulphate). Tip Acid into an emptied clean non-mains water container so that the Chlorine will not cause Lead Chroide (PbCl) to form when you return the solution to the battery. The table spoon of MgSo4 Epsom Salts added to distilled water 5 Litres (not tap) is then added to the battery and the battery trickle charged. There is a guy on youtube who shows this method. Sound Science has the PB (lead sulphate crystals) are dissolved into the MgSO4 and then after a while the battery holds its charge again. The solution is emptied and the battery refilled. If you can get battery acid H2SO4 then use that. Yet to try it as I cannot get hold of small quantities of Battery Acid locally.

@roynajecki1100 3 жыл бұрын

@@Seal00754 Sulfuric Acid is sold as drain opener liquid at hardware stores and home centers. However most is sold as diluted sulfuric acid. One brand of undiluted sulfuric acid is made by the Rooto Corporation and is sold in quart and gallon jugs. I found it at my local Runnings farm/home center for $8 per quart.

@stansmith4054 3 жыл бұрын

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 He said he poured the acid in a bucket, then cleaned the cells, then add back the acid that was in the bucket. You should of read the whole comment before you added a bone-headed comment.

@ProleDaddy 2 жыл бұрын

@@Seal00754 Auto parts stores around my area sell battery acid, namely O'Reilly and AutoZone.

@Lulanda93 3 жыл бұрын

So glad to see some videos from Steve that are not paid promotions. This is the content that the people want.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You...

@EngDrewman 3 жыл бұрын

I have some experience with Pb batteries, and here's my take: Batt #1: Sealed batteries still vent gasses, and thus they will eventually run out of water. I have found that a sealed battery that holds a high voltage but has high internal resistance is dried out. If there's a way you could pry or cut the vent caps off to add a little water, it may come back to life. Batt #2: It has multiple short circuited cells. I have never had any luck reviving a battery in this condition. Batts #3&4: Minor shorts or excessive sulfation, which yes the desulfator can fix. My #1 tip for reviving old batteries and significantly prolonging the life of good ones: Periodically remove them from whatever equipment they're installed in, fully charge them with a normal charger, then connect them to a float charger and let them sit on the float charger for a few days. Don't forget to keep them clean too, as the crud that builds up by the vents of flooded cell batteries can be conductive and result in a surface discharge.

@dannythomas7902 2 жыл бұрын

I watched exide they build battery and charge 2 amps for 2 days

@kelsycunningham8452 2 жыл бұрын

I park my truck for 6 months every year. 2 batteries that when in storage I have hooked up to a trickle charger, never unplug. I just tested them with the same resistive unit seen here. As new amperage and exactly 6 years old. Letting a battery sit will look it in a few months.

@byronjohnson4268 2 жыл бұрын

it took 14 days to get the internal resistance from 12 to 7.7 milli-ohms using the Battery Minder. it pretty much stayed there for 3 yrs. now, nov 21 its up in the low 8's i'm using a cen-tech battery analyzer from harbor freight, it measures cold cranking amps (the ability of a battery to hold a charge), voltage, internal resistance (in milli-ohms). you have to attach it directly to the lead posts on the battery, not the steel clamps, to get an accurate reading. thanks for the tip on internal resistance rising indicating battery needs distilled water. kj6epl de wa8lcz.

@Ozarkprepper643 2 жыл бұрын

Make sure that sealed battery is in fact a absorbed glass mat and not a gel cell. For that chemical reaction to take place creating it to gel requires certain ratios of sulfuric acid electrolyte and silica gas. Most of my vehicles use a glass mat Style since they have a longer shelf life to start with. Makes it nice when you have a classic a recreational vehicle that's only used once or twice a month.

@temp911Luke 2 жыл бұрын

How can they vent gass when they are sealed ??

@joeblogs5314 3 жыл бұрын

Steve i watch you religiously ..i have been a car mechanic for 30 years and love small engines too ...i have learned many tips and tricks from you ! THANK YOU MY BROTHER from all the way from Cyprus. all the VERY BEST to you and your family .

@bobmcl2406 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video Steve. I always wondered about these, as well as chargers that claim to have a "recondition" setting. I am glad that you took so much effort to demonstrate that they can work, if the battery has the appropriate problem.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You...

@kevinmartin4867 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Steve for doing this test. It was fair and good to know that it doesn't always work. Cheers!

@dwaynemadsen964 3 жыл бұрын

When you get excited during your videos you light up and it is contagious! I always feel better after watching one of your productions, even if I was already in a good mood! One of my favorite videos, and one I shared with folks at work, (Auto Care Center at my local Wally World) was when you showed us how to fix a flooded engine. When you pulled the gas can over to the spark plug hole, then look dead straight into the camera and said, "Oh, yes I am!" I actually laughed out loud and startled my poor cat! Stay safe, My Brother!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Right on Dwayne! Thank You...

@randomchopsuey7165 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for investing the time to do this Steve!! Cheers!!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon Жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@winterzwolf1 Жыл бұрын

One of the best and most thorough desulfator videos I've seen. Good Job. Based on your results, it seems the first two had individual cells damaged beyond the point of repair. The latter 2 had degraded cells, but still recoverable. VERY good information, thank you again.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon Жыл бұрын

You're Welcome...

@mikeone9759 3 жыл бұрын

We love what you're teaching us folks. I know how to keep a mower working for many years but, I don't know everything so, I'm always watching my friend! Knoxville Tn

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@markcarta6581 3 жыл бұрын

Dear Steve, I've watched quite a few of your videos and am completely impressed ! Your honesty and integrity are only surpassed by your sense of humor and great taste in beer ! Thank you buddy !

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you! and You're Welcome...

@nealbowser8574 3 жыл бұрын

Steve, we tried desulfators at the airport on airplane batteries, and with similar results. The thought of resurrecting a very expensive airplane battery was a VERY attractive option that we wanted to explore. We also called the manufacturer (Gill) for more insight, and the discussion was well worth the time. Here’s what we learned. Batteries sulfate from a combination of two things. If the battery charge decreases to a certain point, sulfur will form on the lead plates in the battery, interfering with the reaction between the sulfuric acid and the plates. The longer the low-charge status, the more sulfate is formed. Making matters worse, the sulfate will harden over time, making dedsulfating difficult if not impossible. If you can catch a battery before the sulfate hardens, you have an excellent chance of reversing the chemical reaction and put the sulfur back into solution. If you don’t, the hard sulfur can flake off of the plates and fall to the bottom of the battery, then short the plates. Also, if you “super-charge” the battery, you run the risk of warping the lead plates. One of the best things that you can do is remove the battery when its not going to be used for awhile and bring it in the house. Put the desulfator on the thing every once in awhile to keep the battery charged. “Exercise” the battery by putting it through a charge/discharge cycle. BTW, the desulfator puts out a slow charge, and at a frequency that causes the sulfur to dissolve. That’s it! My airplane battery is in my workroom now attached to the desulfator, and will swap places with my lawnmower battery shortly. Oddly, they’re the same exact size, but the airplane battery costs $400 more. Both are 12v, but the airplane battery can be inverted (-It has little lead weights inside the caps that will seal the breather vent hole). The temptation to use a lawnmower battery in the airplane is tempting, but the penalty that the FAA would impose keeps us honest.

@ryannavarre4161 3 жыл бұрын

Great knowledge shared

@tomrogers9467 3 жыл бұрын

What about AGM batteries? (Absorbed Glass Mat). The one in my snowmobile is mounted on it’s side, as there is no actual liquid in it.

@antonybrady9547 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Why do airplane batteries have to keep vent holes sealed?

@nealbowser8574 3 жыл бұрын

@@antonybrady9547 there’s an old saying with cars: “Keep the blue side up and the green side down”. -Great advice for a car, but with an airplane, banking is an essential part of flying, and occasionally flying inverted is not unusual. Unfortunately, if you fly at an extreme bank or go inverted, battery acid can leak out and corrode the battery compartment. The solution is simple. Put lead sealing weights in the vent caps that will temporarily close off the breathing holes, or spend even more money for gel cells.

@antonybrady9547 3 жыл бұрын

@@nealbowser8574 thanks for answer Neil

@allanegan6502 2 жыл бұрын

FIND a better battery vid on this SPECIFIC subject.........lucky you. FULL of honest & well presented gold nuggets. Well done.

@boboala1 2 жыл бұрын

Right on, North Route! You're one of my favorite characters in my YT world - certainly #1 in the outdoors power tool fix/care/adjust/safety knowledge base! I'm down here in 'Righthand' Missouri (up in the old Ozarks mountains) where I've been watching for more than a few years & learning SO much useful info from your channel in an entertaining, yet frank, well-paced format you've created! A cognoscenti working man hoot! And then there's the pleasant tease of the brew variety AND the repair time estimate per job related in units of brew! I keep trying to get my friends/neighbors to check you out, but they have such short attention spans, are jealous of me because I learned to read & cipher, and/or they already know as much or more than you(!) When I used to have a power tool issue I fell for the neighborly advice 'Oh, you should let my cousin Shane fix your chainsaw...he can fix about anything!' Then a week later I get it back worse off broke - terminally (thinking 'how or why the F did this shear off!?' And didn't Shane drop out of school in 8th grade and he's been actin' flitchy since he got out of his 120 day shock last month!) So then, I just offer it back to them to keep it. Thanks for trying, but now only I break my own S^%$(!) Scrapyard & cigarette time, boys! A clever scam in reality. Oh, and speaking of that, here come a couple dudes down the river in a canoe - I gotta go get my bow and banjo reel quick-like! Bob out!

@kerrygibbs8198 3 жыл бұрын

I own 3 of these “ all different brands”. They have revived batteries and I feel extended the life of several of my batteries. Great video !!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@jonhunt5408 3 жыл бұрын

When I worked at the salvage yard, I used to take batteries from the pile and test them. If they had a decent voltage 8+, I’d put them on a ‘boost to start’ changer we had there that had a 200 amp boost setting. Boils or froths the acid at 200 amp, do that for 2-3 minutes, then trickle at 2 amps overnight and next day, good battery. Get another year or two out of them.

@Ozarkprepper643 2 жыл бұрын

I did Fleet Maintenance for a few years we had a couple hundred pickup trucks and they also towed trailers with large generators with a Wisconsin engine that used a large battery. We did the same first for a few seconds it got zapped with 24 V and then as you described. The original battery in my 96 John Deere backhoe lasted for 14 years before it finally needed to be replaced.🤔

@dannythomas7902 2 жыл бұрын

I have always thought that most battery people smash car with would be ok.

@fatlaed6251 Жыл бұрын

I am in desperate need of help my battery is at 12 volt 888 for my moped let's go and I don't know how to get a little bit turn over it was a battery issue and now it seems to be a fuel issue

@nickyclub44 Жыл бұрын

@@fatlaed6251 what's the issue?

@charlesyurek8390 3 жыл бұрын

Steve's saloon is a riot Fun to watch and VERY informative. Have used some of his fixes and what a difference they make. Have shared a few things with friends and the are amazed

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Right on Charles! Thank You...

@jiffypop247 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet! look forward to trying that on some batteries. So I had a saw with low power, would die almost instantly if I wasn't holding the throttle. finally figured out the exhaust spark arrester is plugged. I couldn't find any videos that you have done on spark arresters so I thought I would post about it here. Super easy fix. Wish I had checked the spark arrester before bringing it to the shop, where they rebuilt and then replaced! the carburetor for a hefty sum that didn't fix the problem. Thanks for all your time and money saving tips!

@ChiefLink Жыл бұрын

I bought an automatic battery charger for my automotive job some time ago. It actually includes a desulfating cycle after reaching a certain charge level. There were a couple of times that another tech tried a regular old school battery charger and the battery still failed either by dying quickly or just not holding a charge. I took the vehicles and I left them on the charger for several hours without disturbing them and they came back and worked flawlessly! No parasitic drain from the vehicle, just a weak battery that needed help. I used that same charger on other batteries I eventually replaced, since some are beyond repair. I am impressed by your results showing similarities with a much cheaper tool! Cheers!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon Жыл бұрын

Right on

@bkanegson 2 жыл бұрын

Been using BatteryMINDer maintainers/ desulfators for more than two decades. Many lead acid and AGM batteries. Most of my batteries that idle (boat, side by side 4 x 4, trailer caddy) etc. last up to a decade, sometimes more, in the Fl heat. You're right. They can't save every battery, but desulfators do work more than enough to pay for themselves. Far superior to standard trickle chargers that cost the same or more. Batteries with normally expected 5 yr max life, stored on working desulfating chargers, remain reliable for at least double that.

@donyboy73 3 жыл бұрын

wow Steve, never tried that in my small engine shop!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Super cheap investment to try out! Go for it Don...

@jpshowpro8408 3 жыл бұрын

Unbelievable. I have an expensive battery in my 2005 XC90 that is acting up. Going to try this out I think:)

@jasonbrindamour903 3 жыл бұрын

@@jpshowpro8408 did you try it?

@trvman1 2 жыл бұрын

Would these work on an AGM battery since they are dry batteries?

@michaelflagulant 2 жыл бұрын

@@StevesSmallEngineSaloonI HAVE A REQUEST- "SWEET PROJECT CARS" channel on youtube says that they have for years been bringing back dead batteries with welder current. i believe 160amp for car battery and 200amp for deep cycle marine batteries, could have it backeards. if true this could be a game changer. NEW VIDEO??? 😉😉

@tomlemole4164 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to conducting the tests and for making the video!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

@kbjerke 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Steve!! Your video confirmed for me what I suspected... that it won't work for "all", but just might be worthwhile in my case!! Stay safe!! We NEED more videos from you, my Friend!!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

You're Welcome...and Thank You...

@mattgraham1398 3 жыл бұрын

Great video and thanks for all the hard work! Love the load tester, it's indispensable. Never heard of a desulfator before. Incredible tool for reviving dead cells!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Right on Matt! Thank You...

@QuintTheSharker 3 жыл бұрын

He’s like the cool uncle I take my broken machines to. Then he gives me a beer.

@andrewoconnor4761 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, agreed.

@stephenufkin6236 3 жыл бұрын

Lol if you bring him the broken machines, then shouldn’t you bring the beer too?🤣

@wassamattau860 3 жыл бұрын

He's like the neighbor I wish I had. :)

@M70ACARRY 3 жыл бұрын

@@wassamattau860 my neighbors are dumber than I am.

@wassamattau860 3 жыл бұрын

@@M70ACARRY No way my friend! We both found Steve afterall!! Best of wishes to you. :)

@duffman6675 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the well thought out test. Various failure modes, testers like many people have already.

@davidconn3222 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve , went out to the shed with a dozen ,no trickle , the full charge and left very energized and ready to start something . Cheers from Bowen Island Canada .

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Great job!

@marauder2525 3 жыл бұрын

My lawn tractor is on a trickle charger when not being used. The battery is 3 years old. The trickle charger showed the battery was 100% chareged, but it would not turn the tractor over. Used a NOCO Genius charger and desulfator. After one treatment, the battery worked as it should. I now rotate 2 trickle chargers that are also desulfators on all of my vehicles.

@GRILL332 3 жыл бұрын

Always wondered about these and their mixed reviews. This explains a lot.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Right on

@johnmccormick175 Жыл бұрын

As always thank you very much Steve .

@imxploring 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve.... even only working on half the batteries you tested it on is a big plus.... as you pointed out.... saving the lawn tractor battery made it pay for itself!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, exactly

@gordonshim7261 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Steve. This desulfator works great. I bought the one in the description. As a side note. I tried it on my 18v dewalt drill Ni-Cd battery that was not lasting as long as it used to and after 3 desulfator cycles the drill is working as good as new. There is a warning not to use this on lithium batteries. So I’ll stick with regular lead acid batteries. Thanks for all the great videos. I appreciate the tips and tricks to keeping my small engine equipment running properly.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Right on Gord!

@stargazer7644 Жыл бұрын

Nicads don’t sulfate.

@simonmorris8651 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video Steve, thanks again so much for all your hard work that you give to us for free here 👍👏👌

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@tibadoe Жыл бұрын

I have used the BatteryMINDer brand maintainer / desulfator for the past 15+ years. Works great!! I replace my auto batteries when I hit the 5 year mark as a preventive maintenance -- even when it passes the load test. The key is to keep them hooked up / or attach frequently and let it run as long as possible. Desulfators takes longer than 3 days to work - the more sulfated the battery, the longer it takes. Hook up the ring terminals directly to battery so you can plug in when vehicle or machine is not in use.

@ryannavarre4161 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the time and detail you put into this video. Thank you.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@davedammitt7691 3 жыл бұрын

I like your videos, I like your attitude. You seem like a good guy. Yours are the only videos that I don't skip the ads on; I just mute them and let 'em run. I know it's probably only a couple of pennies, but every little bit helps I hope.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Right on Dave! Thank You...

@Niterider73 3 жыл бұрын

Never knew something like this even existed. This is a game changer, bc some of these batteries ain't cheap. Steve you are the man sir!

@ronaldstrayer580 3 жыл бұрын

If your in the market for something like this, check out NOCO. I can't confirm how good they work yet because I have one on its way I ordered it a few days ago. I ordered their genius 2. It is a battery charger, battery maintainer and desulfator all in one.

@StringerNews1 3 жыл бұрын

No, it's not a game-changer. Battery sulfation is the result of not maintaining a lead-acid battery in a good state of charge. Rather than buy a magic box that someone claims will fix your original failure, you need to change your game to be a game-changer. If you buy the magic box and never learn to do things correctly, and not need to try to save a partially destroyed battery to begin with. As with everything, knowing a thing or two requires _learning_ a thing or two first. Spend your money on a book or course on how car batteries work and how to maintain them first. After that, you should be knowledgeable enough to select a good battery charger (NOT a "trickle-charger") and how to use it to good effect. Then you use it to good effect, and never worry about sulfation again.

@deanmiller9039 3 жыл бұрын

@@StringerNews1 That seems a bit harsh, even for those that do try and maintain their batteries oopsies happen. Grabbed some tools last spring to re-connect my lawn tractor battery and oops, forgot to disconnect it last fall....DEAD Had a friend disconnect my F350 battery (neg terminal) after I went away for the winter and oops the terminal ended up still touching the battery post, it was dead for months, 0 volts when I got back. In both cases a combination of old school charger and little NOCO (Chinese magic) charger brought them back to life and 2 years later I'm still using them. Somehow they didn't freeze and weren't destroyed, de-sulfation actually works and saves batteries for those of us that know how to look after them too. Thanks for the video Steve!

@Niterider73 3 жыл бұрын

@@StringerNews1 I agree battery maintenance is the number one prevention. But I guess you've never bought anything where people have not done battery maintenance before and sometimes you buy small equipment like a riding mower or a push mower or something with a bad battery and the battery itself is pretty darn expensive. At least I realize there's something like this now that exists instead of having to go out and drop 80 plus bucks on a battery.

@greeceuranusputin 3 жыл бұрын

@@StringerNews1 You suck! Your assumption that everyone tasked with fixing a problem is to blame for it is pure bullshit. FU

@workin4alivin585 3 жыл бұрын

Batteries are the bane of my existence. Thank you!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

You're Welcome...

@tomgorden3762 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve. Now am going to get one of those desulfators

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Go for it!

@charlesjschram 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the in depth testing! The claims made sense in my head for a long time, I just never did some research before now. If you can save a couple batteries, it's a very cheap investment with big dividends!

@addisonhoffman2549 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for bringing the existence of this device to my knowledge. I gotta order one to see if it fixes at least one of almost a dozen bad batteries I got lying around my shop.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Glad to help

@user-yv2sc5qv7x Жыл бұрын

Good segment. Loads of good user-inputs too. Thanks to all

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

@wh8085 3 жыл бұрын

I've never heard of a " desulfinator " but Im gonna go lookt for one . No shop is complete without one . Im a Lawn mowing company and always have about half dozen batteries that I try to keep going. I can see where that gadget would pay for its self easy ! You said about 1/2 the price of a battery , sooooo, 30 to 40 bucks ? Really depends on what battery we are talking about. We just got a new NAPA store in my little town that I'm soooo excited about , bet they have one ! Thanks Steve, Cheers !

@billdavis2910 3 жыл бұрын

It's worth a shot. Cheaper than a battery. Especially when you're dealing with a few batteries. Thanx Steve.✌👍🇺🇸😂

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

You're Welcome...

@martialme84 3 жыл бұрын

"Worked on 2/4 batteries." Is the most real sounding result i could imagine. Hype train don´t stop at this station.... Very good video, steve!

@parrisbr915 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking time to help others brother. Ive been tinkering myself

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to help

@edthompson2337 Жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, Thanks for the video. I bought one of those desulfators and tried it on three batteries. It greatly improved their performance.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon Жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

@zenlocust 3 жыл бұрын

Can't help but chuckle at your "idk but i think it deserves a thumbs up". Ever the salesman, Sreve. Interesting topic. Winnipeg is suffering a deep freeze right now, with over night temps in the -45 wind chill range. Batteries are freezing left right and centre. My sister already having problems with her 2016 VW Golf. We need people thinking about battery blankets and battery health in times like these. Most people have a block heater and assume that covers everything. Ignorance is bliss at the dealerahip.

@wassamattau860 3 жыл бұрын

I love your videos, thank you for making them. Best to all. :)

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

So nice of you

@aalovelace2776 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I’m going to try this. You have the best videos on repairing stuff!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@okiemoto6114 2 жыл бұрын

I think it's worth the purchase. Thank you for the video Steve!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 2 жыл бұрын

It really is!

@johnhurd1159 2 жыл бұрын

Great stuff. Keep them coming. I had a battery maintainer/desulfator powered by 4 X 6 solar cell. Perfect for my sailboat parked in the anchorage for months on end. It worked a treat. John Out.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 2 жыл бұрын

Right on

@billlovett4256 3 жыл бұрын

Ha! You got to it before Project Farm!!!

@RobertLowery 3 жыл бұрын

This one would be though for Todd to do. He is more about finding out which product works best. If he was going to test 10 different "desulfators", he would probably need 20+ identical, or nearly identical, sulfated batteries to test them out on.

@charlesdickens6706 3 жыл бұрын

.....or test brand new batteries that he each delivers exactly the same abuse to to render them equally defective. They wouldn't all become equally defective but testing for the matched ones is viable . Small transparent scooter batteries would make most sense .Helps to see the sulphation in the batteries when evaluating.

@bultech 3 жыл бұрын

Project Farm is on a different level. No offence.

@billlovett4256 3 жыл бұрын

@@RobertLowery don't over think it , it was a joke.

@RobertLowery 3 жыл бұрын

@@billlovett4256 I mostly took it that way, but then it became an interesting thought experiment on how one could effectively do testing of multiple brands of "desulfators".

@armyofshea7941 Жыл бұрын

Love the honesty about what works and what does not. Keep up the great content.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon Жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@davestewart9146 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve for all your time 👍😁

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!!

@jameskoralewski1006 3 жыл бұрын

Not holding a full charge is a sure sign of battery sulfation of the cells.

@turtlezed 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, how's it goin....I've had variable results recharging an ' unchargeable' battery by using a small solar panel.....the panel puts out very little current but at a higher voltage. These panels can measure 19 volts with no load attached and drop considerably when you attach the dead battery but if left for a couple of weeks outside, I've had em charge back up to useable voltage.....it's said if a battery discharges below 6.6 volts (1.1v per cell ) it is usually unrecoverable.....I've recovered batteries, albeit not really old batteries, from virtually stone dead...! It surprised me how well it worked but the lesson here really is , get an inexpensive 10w solar panel to maintain the battery in the first place....you don't need a controller at that output level, just hook it up n leave it pointing towards that big shiny thing in the sky.....

@denttech2515 3 жыл бұрын

You rock Steve. Really appreciate all that you do

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You...

@FeedTheChipper 2 жыл бұрын

So chuffed to have found your channel... thanks again man!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 2 жыл бұрын

Welcome!

@Justindobb1984 3 жыл бұрын

Great share Steve. Keeps it up

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@martytoth2019 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, Steve! Thank you for getting to the point. A lot of good information, not only on the tool but also terrific background on the issues to the batteries it didn't work on! Question though, what's the difference between this and the de-sulfater that you'd pour into the battery?

@robertvanruyssevelt7159 Жыл бұрын

At a guess this works by sending a pulse through the battery and the liquid one may or may not work but is designed to remove the sulfation from the plates. Some of these are snake oil. Don't know of one that works but would be interested to see a proper demonstration.

@patrickmertz2426 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, many thanks for your months of effort Steve!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@RRinTN 3 жыл бұрын

I learned a life lesson in my mid 30's.... Get the right tool for the job at hand. Same applies here... That tool works when used on the right job. Excellent video Steve.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You...

@kenleppek 3 жыл бұрын

I've always wondered about those things, I've emptied a battery and refilled it with new electrolyte and it held up good enough for my figure eight derby car.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Right on

@unclemarksdiyauto 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Steve. Actually had this problem with a 985 CCA battery a couple days ago that had gone down to 380 CCA. (Battery 2 years into it's warranty). The battery shop had some big old looking desulfator they hooked it up to for 24 hour and it went back up to 880 CCA. I have a couple other batteries that are iffy, so I ordered a fancier looking desulfator yesterday that should be at my door soon. Hoping to do some tests and post the results. I have a buddy that has a pallet of old batteries so hope to do a few tests on a couple other batteries! Glad it worked on a few for you Steve! (Wish i had seen this yesterday since the item you used was about half the money...although if my device works, the extra I spent will be saved soon.

@robertvanruyssevelt7159 Жыл бұрын

Any results?

@unclemarksdiyauto Жыл бұрын

@@robertvanruyssevelt7159 My results were not good with the unit I purchased. I didnt see a difference at all. I am sure there are units that will work, but the units people are suggesting are double or triple the price of a new battery.

@robertvanruyssevelt7159 Жыл бұрын

@@unclemarksdiyauto Thank you for the reply. Can you share the name? I am looking at buying a product from Pulse Tech for around $150.00

@BonesyTucson Жыл бұрын

Super glad I found this channel - I am absolutely going to grab that desulfator and a load tester and try my hand at recovering some old batteries. I'm trying to find an inexpensive way to accumulate power storage for solar, and I semi-regularly come across old car batteries people have thrown out. I suspect people might just be doing the lazy thing and some of these batteries could be fixable... if I get even a couple of them working again, this will be a total win.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon Жыл бұрын

Right on

@libertyman3729 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve for making clear there is some help for presumed dead batteries. 👍

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

You're Welcome...

@hikerJohn 3 жыл бұрын

If you keep the charger on that first battery with the desulfator it should work but it might take a week or three. You can use the desulfator and the charger at the same time, just use it at 2-5 amps and make sure it does not boil dry. You can pop the top off the battery to get access to the water caps. I just bought one of these because my diesel truck 800 amp batteries (two of them) cost $160.00 each and they get sulfated every 4 years. I'm on my third set and I want to see if I can get an extra 3-4 years out of them. All these things do is sends a square wave AC current through the battery at a frequency that will break up and dissolve the sulfur crystals. Sulfur crystals (like all crystals) will break at certain frequencies particular to that element . . . It's just physics. You can buy a tester that does not put a draw on the batteries but checks for sulfation with AC current. My 800 amp batteries were testing at closer to 900 amps when new but after giving them an equalization charge last week they are now testing at 1099 amps. Equalization charging causes them to boil and lose water but these desulfators dont do that. And they are cheep.

@jesusmariarodriguezolivarr2477 10 ай бұрын

Que marca Son?

@ronhaefner7833 Жыл бұрын

You definitely get a thumbs up. But in my 40 years of experience sulfated batteries don't recover to their full potential. You can get some capacity back and it really depends on the length of time they have been sitting in their sulfated state. My opinion. Good video.

@davkime1 3 жыл бұрын

I think that’s really great. I just bought my first battery load tester and it’s electronic. Works great in identifying issues but man I’d love to have one of these handy little tools to see if it will work for me. Thanks for sharing.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear!

@simpleinstants Жыл бұрын

excellent work and time. Thank you for share your results! Very appreciated. Now I know that ALL depends on the specific problem situation of each battery.

@craighansen7594 3 жыл бұрын

Several years ago I purchased a electronic battery charger that has a desulfate cycle. It has saved about 1/3 of the batteries I have used it on. I want to learn more about why some conditions were corrected and why some were unsuccessful.

@LiveeviL6969 3 жыл бұрын

There are many battery tenders that have the desulfator function built in and do it continuously. If you want your battery to last years longer, put one of these on all the time (for batteries that sit for long periods).

@dalemiller4239 3 жыл бұрын

Great presentations! Well done and informative with not BS! Thanks.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You...and You're Welcome...

@percelnpaolo 3 жыл бұрын

I admire what you do for your subscribers Sir, very informative and easy to understand, i fixed my grass trimmer & lawn mower because of your videos, i am a subscriber from the Philippines.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@shafi420 2 жыл бұрын

For my many years working as auto technician, I noticed the main factor in reviving a battery depends on the age of the battery, if it has any dead or shorted cells and how long the battery had time to sulfate. If the battery is over 5-6 years old or the battery has been sitting for few years, the reconditioning cycle doesn’t work. Also if it’s a small motorcycle battery I never had any luck bringing them back.

@SchwaAlien Жыл бұрын

I think the key is to desulphate before the battery is completely broken down in some way so that whatever slow build-up occurs can be broken up before it cause more serious permanent issues. I remember my grandfather building a similar “memory zapper” for nicad cells which were quite popular in those days, and it worked too, but not on totally dead ones.

@potterteksmith7548 2 жыл бұрын

I did my own research into this topic starting about 10 years ago. Had to make my own version of the desulphator so it kept trickle charging at the same time so a battery could be left desulphating for a long time (years in the end) with regular checks on the electrolyte level. I used automotive batteries that were dead flat IE had been sitting on a concrete floor for who knows how long but they didn't have a millivolt in them. They had to be checked for shorted cells that can happen when the sulphate crystals grow so large the plates get distorted (that's a throw-away unsalvagable battery). End result was I could recover up to about 50% capacity in the best cases but it took so long it wasn't worth the trouble. Experimented with alkaline cells even earlier and found it depended on the brand as to whether flat(ish) AA & AAA cells could be improved with longterm (very) gentle constant current trickle charging and yes it does work, even lowered the internal resistance of suitable candidates which just happened to be the premium brands. Again, it took so long that it wasn't really a viable process.

@peterstoffregen2478 2 жыл бұрын

Well made video, thorough test proceedure. Thanks, Steve! I've got a collection of batteries and have one of these on order and will report my results.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 2 жыл бұрын

Cool, thanks

@CHELLIE2408 2 жыл бұрын

Yea, That Battery Desulfator does Work and it works very very well, It will restore about 85% of sulphated batteries, I bought a bunch of them :) the 2 amp and the 4 amp version, I gave some away to my sons, I use them on my solar lead acid batteries, I have a 500 amp carbon battery load tester, On one battery a group 27 loaded down to 9.6v it only produced 100 amps, I charged the battery with a 6 amp battery charger and the 4 amp desulphanator over night and I was able to get 400 amps at 9.6v load on the Battery tester, yes they work and work well, some batteries may have a bad cell, and it wont help those batteries, the batteries that are sulphated, they work great :) Take care, Chellie Retired, Female Fleet Equipment Mechanic.

@timd1833 3 жыл бұрын

Great that you got 2 of the batteries to live again. Curious to see how long they last in use. Please update us as time permits.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Will do!

@steveweatherly1965 3 жыл бұрын

We think we're in a drought here in Australia, 3 months without a beer 🍻

@paultakoy7091 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thanks for the 3 month results!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 2 жыл бұрын

Any time!

@facereader99 3 жыл бұрын

Will try this. Thanks Steve.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

You're Welcome...

@jeffreyrubish347 3 жыл бұрын

Never knew there was such a thing!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Right on

@drizler 3 жыл бұрын

They’ve been around 10-15 years at least. The price started dropping a while now so you see them everywhere

@shapeshifter7753 3 жыл бұрын

Steve! You forgot the most important tip! How many beers did this job take😅

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

I cant count that high!

@bobbyk6585 3 жыл бұрын

Finally you popped open a high gravity brew my friend. I always wondered if those de-sulphaters actually worked. Thanks Steve.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

You're Welcome...

@jopanash 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for doing this and sharing the results!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 4 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@chisel83 3 жыл бұрын

Steve. Gday from south Australia mate 🍺 Excellent video Steve Project Farm “hold my Guinness”

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

@anonymousflyonthewall4732 3 жыл бұрын

It generates a specific frequency. That the sulphuric crystals resonate to/at. And sulphuric crystals cover the lower portions of the lead plates, rendering those portions useless. As in the portion covered in the crystals are blocked from receiving the charge. Example: you can “charge” the battery conventionally, and the charger will say 100% charged, yet when you put the slightest load on it, it depletes practically immediately. If 50% of the plates are covered in crystals, then when your charger says 100%, its only 100% of FIFTY PERCENT of its designed capacity. The desulphator, generates the exact frequency that sulphuric crystals resonate at. And in doing so the crystals burst 💥 back into solution ( raising the acid levels) back to what they previously were or real close. Also if enough crystals form before desulphation is done, they will form “ bridges” between plates. If the bridge becomes large enough, then the plates “short” out killing the cell eventually. I swear by desulphators. They truly work. The sulphation is caused by repeated charging and discharging over the “life” of the battery. Only a desulphating charger can prevent it.

@ssnoc 3 жыл бұрын

That is interesting and it makes sense -

@cgmarch2359 3 жыл бұрын

how long does this de-sulftatation needs to run?

@anonymousflyonthewall4732 3 жыл бұрын

@@cgmarch2359 , depends on how bad they are. Modern desulphators simply tell you when the percentage of charge is reached by a digital number displayed. Pushing a button will tell you current voltage in the battery ( specifically when you first hook it up is time to look) as well as percent of charge in the battery. Im assuming when battery shows 100% charged ( with a desulphating charger NOT conventional) , that it has attained a 100% by completely clearing all crystals into solution again. When I did my trolling motor batteries, my (old charger) I wasn’t getting a lot of use out of the battery nor really strong power like when new. (Reason was because only 100% of what plates were not sulphated, were only being charged, vs the WHOLE PLATE (remember crystals that cover plate- that portion will NOT hold a charge) And yet the old charger, would show me 100% charged. Afterwards when using the desulphating charger, even after the first complete charge, the trolling motor was running like a banshee, and I could run TWO FULL days of fishing before I needed to recharge. It was a game changer. Also every time you charge with it, (if it hadn’t “completely “ gotten every crystal ) that it will teach a point of its as hood as it can get. Might not be exactly like a brand new battery, but you won’t care because the improvement is so noticeable. And constantly using one insures no more accumulated build up of crystals. And ALWAYS CHECK BATTERY FLUID BEFORE AND AFTER CHARGING, refill with ONLY DISTILLED WATER. After using a desulphating battery charger,

@Jabba.1 3 жыл бұрын

@@cgmarch2359 depends on size of battery motorbike size done over night big battery (150amp RV type) took couple weeks but mines not ment that size it's daisy chained to two motorcycles,

@cgmarch2359 3 жыл бұрын

thank you for info!!

@st-gelaiskevin9202 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again friend! I went trough the comments and it was also useful... Keep it up bud, cause your channel really helps!

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

@joeschratz9360 3 жыл бұрын

Really cool. Shocking that it worked.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 3 жыл бұрын

Right on

@chuckbowen5024 2 жыл бұрын

I ordered one of these today. I have several batteries at my shop. I do welding/machining and small engine repair. Hopefully it will save me some batteries. I hate sending them to salvage. I have also seen this done with an arc welder. I'm going to experiment with that too. Hopefully I won't wind up looking like the nuclear sludge monster. That's definitely going to be an outdoor experiment.

@albertyowell5455 Жыл бұрын

See ‘Sweet Project Car’ about battery restoration with a small DC welder.

@Doc-Cole_Trickle-of-Chainsaws 3 жыл бұрын

Hello Steve, I've been using the baking soda+water clean out and distilled water+Epsom salt 2 refill. I've had 100% success so far on 3 of our old batteries. It's takes a little time but well worth the time and effort. Keep it up Steve! D.R. Small Engines out!

@andreylyubyh1116 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Steve, that was terrific test/review.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 2 жыл бұрын

Very welcome

@user-lc1df9jd1u 10 ай бұрын

That’s real cool Steve. Thanks for sharing that info with me.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 10 ай бұрын

Any time!

@mconfluence 3 жыл бұрын

I purchased a Battery Minder that has that built into it that is amazing.

@wim0104 3 жыл бұрын

yes, 7-stage chargers/conditioners should do desulfation just fine.

@Robalo-2660 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Marshall, I got mine from Northern Tool . I've been very happy with the way they have maintained my batteries . I use them for the lawn tractor and the generator . The batteries are 7 years old and still start on demand .

@mconfluence 3 жыл бұрын

@@Robalo-2660 that is where I purchased mine also

@scottjohnson3845 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, Battery Minder does work. I've got 6 or 7 of the small units (1501 ?) from Northern Tool and keep them on all my batteries when not in use.

@scottjohnson3845 3 жыл бұрын

Oh, here's the other thing. People think you put these on for a day or maybe a week and that's all. This is not the case. It might take several weeks or maybe 2 to 3 months of desulfating to bring a battery back.

@Enjoymentboy 2 жыл бұрын

For battery #2 you can trick the de-sulfator by putting a second battery in parallel to get the start voltage higher than 10V. Once the de-sulfator turns on you remove the second second battery and let it do it's thing. I've recovered lead-acid UPS batteries this way many times.

@StevesSmallEngineSaloon 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea!

@robertheinkel6225 2 жыл бұрын

I wondered about that.

@SchwaAlien Жыл бұрын

Very interesting... I have a 5yr old UPS battery that refuses to run anything for more than a second but doesn’t detect as anything other than fully charged with full capacity, and I really need my UPSs because I’ve moved to a small island where the power goes out all the time; we have a generator for that, but it takes time to start (if it’s battery is good) and then stabilize RPM before the transfer switch switches to it’s power, so having my 3D printer and controlling PC on a UPS is essential because successfully resuming a print after a power failure is pure fantasy in my opinion.

@Enjoymentboy Жыл бұрын

@@SchwaAlien Sounds like the battery is both sulfated and dried out. You can try adding distilled water to each cell to just cover the plates and then use a desulfation. Even better if you have an intelligent charger with a recovery and maintenance mode. Worst case scenareo you could try replacing the battery with a marine deep cycle battery. It would take much longer to charge with the UPS internal charger but it would also last longer when the power goes out. I have an ACP smart UPS 620 that I have done this to. I saw no point in paying close to $100 for an 18AH battery so I got a second hand marine battery (600 CCA and 140 min reserve capacity and designed for this type of draw), cut a large enough whole in the side panel of the UPS and ran the battery cables out the side and connected to the battery terminals. I made sure to charge it fully before connecting it. It'll run my 24" TV for a full day before the UPS starts warning me that reserve is getting low.

@Oblithian Жыл бұрын

i literally just commented enquiring about that.

@davidmorris-jones210 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for great info Sir. As a ham radio operator, we keep backup power batteries & inverters in case of emergency. I have a couple of 126Ah truck batteries & have just been given an 85Ah sealed leisure battery that needed a distilled water top-up (I make my own) , so drilled 6 holes topped up & resealed with hot glue. 1 of my chargers has pulse repair. This 85Ah leisure battery boils my 12-volt kettle that draws around 14 amps, but this restored battery probably will provide more, but perhaps not 85 amps as it is more than a few years old, so will be good enough to use with my ham, CB & UHF radio gear drawing anything from a couple of amps up to around 40 amps........ With this Russian business, One does not know if things escalated & we lost power here in the UK if our fragile grid was damaged with conventional or EMP weapons.

@Jabba.1 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Steve, I got a optimate 4 for my motorbikes to keep on charge, and used it on an old 150amp leisure battery ( have two of them connect together with an inverter for mains power down my allotment) take two to lift them like the one's you have in the big RV's (lov erm) , anyway at ten yrs old one dropped to 4volts, and wouldn't charge up with modern charges, so stuck optimate on it and took 3 weeks to get it back to like new, it lasted another 6yrs before it eventually died, the other one is still going at 18 yrs , have a 2.4w solar panel just keeps it topped up, think I got my monies worth out of both batteries and charger. Lov your vids well put together.