Stick To The Basics!
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Күн бұрынI know I have made several other videos like this in the past but I feel it is always a good reminder to remember to stick to the basics when making a diagnosis. We don't always need to go digging deep when the problem is right in front of us. -Enjoy!
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@SlipFitGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Eric, the video did NOT suck. What seems like an easy diagnosis to you could be a struggle for some of your viewers. I guarantee every video you make helps somebody along the way. Nice work again, sir! 🙂
@doyleb4360 3 жыл бұрын
That's why I watch SMA videos
@Spelter 3 жыл бұрын
True. I had a friend in March I said "dude, why did a critter bite through your spark cables again. And get new O2 Sensors and new AC sensor. Ask insurance, pay the 150 Euro fee for the shop and let it get fixed, it's around 600 Euros." He didn't because Corona and having no money, he only bought cheap cables (I put in Magnet Marelli in December for 33 bucks, the cheap no-name cables cost 42) and let another "friend" who "knows how to fix cars" install them. They called me the car wont run anymore. I asked if they switched the cables and with it the firing order. "Nooo he knows what he is doing". I packed my stuff, drove over and start diagnosing: Spark was ok Every cylinder did somehow work because unplugging made it worse I followed the lines and what do you think it was? Right, they fucked up the order by 90 degrees. Fixing it, it worked and the car ran fine. He still didn't put in new O2s and the cables were toast and checking it with a scanner showed strange Lambda readings. In Mai, the engine blew up. New car, he let the other guy put on the winter tires. "What torque did you use?" - "130 nm" - "dude, these are steel rims, its 110" - "no my uncle said.." Needless to say, the steering wheel went all over and he needed new rims they bent because the cheap torque wrench must have been set to 150 or more or was badly calibrated. That was just this year and only one friend.
@xMidgetFuryx1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Spelter That is a terrible year for that car. problem with going cheap is you really do get what you pay for...or don't pay for.
@Spelter 3 жыл бұрын
@@xMidgetFuryx1 he couldn't afford the repair and it went to somebody who rebuilds cars like that. Don't know what happened after that. His "new" car, a VW Polo from 2003 is ok so far, passed inspection and should give him no problems. But yeah, the car really was fucked this year. It was a Fiat Punto 188 with the 1.2l engine. Should have 3-4l/100km but it was more like 8-9
@b61mack56 3 жыл бұрын
YES HE DOES!!! Eric O for President. Let start a write in campaign 👍😅
@nathanceschi5100 3 жыл бұрын
I am 31 and went through the GM ASEP program when I was 18, quit the dealer at 19 one year through my 2 year program and went to a smaller independent shop like yours where I spent 10 years working there making a good living. Things changed as I got older and that all fell through when I came in one morning and was fired on the spot. I had been talking to our Napa sales rep about possibly starting my own place in the future, months before I was let go, which both of my bosses must have caught wind of and fired me two weeks before Christmas. Our first born son was 4 months old at the time. I looked at it as a big opportunity and a blessing in disguise. About a month later I found an old smaller shop to rent down the road from where I live in Wisconsin and the rest is history. I do everything on my own at my shop and it has been a great first 2 years, far beyond what I expected. Would just like to say thank you for the heavy diagnostic videos. I feel this is an area being a technician you can always learn more about and always better yourself while diagnosing difficult issues.
@crosstolerance 3 жыл бұрын
Inspirational story!
@Tommy_Mac 3 жыл бұрын
It always astounds me that owners would rather fire an asset like you, rather than use that same asset to enhance their business. The owner should have offered you a partnership in the business. You both would have benefitted. Short sighted stupidity.
@Michael-fw5ef 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you on opening your own shop. That takes alot of guts.
@drwrencho4392 3 жыл бұрын
Awsome good for you brother
@paulparoma 3 жыл бұрын
Your proper use of the English language impresses me even more than the story. Quite rare these days, especially among people your age.
@elcheapo5302 3 жыл бұрын
"What do you mean it needs plug wires? It runs just fine after you put those cats in like I told you to!" 😂
@YNB_Fatty 3 жыл бұрын
"uH hUh..i'M sUrE iT nEeDs iGnItIoN wIrEs....aLl YoU mEcHaNiCs dO iS sCaM uS hArD wOrKiNg FoLkS. i kNoW mY wAy ArOuNd aN eNgInE sO yOu CaNt ScAm Me" - All self proclaimed home mechanics who can't diagnose a simple issue so they send it to a proffesional lmao
@09corvettezr1 3 жыл бұрын
Technically, cylinders 7 and 8 are missing.
@dchawk81 3 жыл бұрын
They're a high theft target on Toyotas.
@jaymzx0 3 жыл бұрын
"Customer states engine feels down on power."
@electroevolution5777 3 жыл бұрын
Im crying from how funny I found this 🤣🤣
@chadpugh1490 3 жыл бұрын
...this guy.
@kcuhc84 2 жыл бұрын
7 and 8 are spares.
@McBosshog85 3 жыл бұрын
You know for damn sure you'll have that truck in the shop in a year and your professional tape repaired plug wire will still be in use lol
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
I fixed a leaking high-pressure fuel line near the engine with self-sealing silicone tape that was spraying a tiny stream right onto the engine. Never figured out why it didn't catch fire with my luck, and it never leaked again. When I traded the car in, I told the guy what I did and showed him because I wanted him to know it wasn't really good to sell being 20 years old anyway.
@rusty1187 3 жыл бұрын
@Redrooster I saw a fisherman use that stuff to make an impromptu v-belt on his boat to get back to the pier!
@jimjordan5630 3 жыл бұрын
Do an update as to the customer's response and attitude when you gave him the news. Great vids by the way!!
@robertgary3561 3 жыл бұрын
My guess is that he’s already paid 1 or 2 shops to give his his diagnostic and didn’t want to pay for another. But in this case it was worth it.
@chrisboivin18 3 жыл бұрын
L
@billmalec 3 жыл бұрын
Due
@rpavlik1 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciated the "piece of resistance" reference...
@9HighFlyer9 3 жыл бұрын
Kragle can fix it
@Supersonicff-dw6bs 3 жыл бұрын
It was a nice bit of word play for pièce de résistance.
@MS-ho9wq 3 жыл бұрын
@@Supersonicff-dw6bs thanks Captain Obvious
@rpavlik1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Supersonicff-dw6bs you'd enjoy the Lego Movie 😉
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
@@MS-ho9wq "Hi, I'm Captain Obvious! I'll take it from here, M.S.! Thanks for your help!
@stevedave5673 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the customer had it “diagnosed” at Autozone 🙄. “It’s got a cat code so you need new cats...”
@flagmichael 3 жыл бұрын
That is what they told me about my dog code and now I have two dogs.
@HouseCallAutoRepair 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the cats and sensors are fine. All that raw fuel was throwing everything way off.
@Big_Loo 3 жыл бұрын
@@HouseCallAutoRepair yeah, but all that raw fuel will wreck a cat in a heartbeat.
@rukusbukus 3 жыл бұрын
yup. my family has been in the muffler business for 35 years and i cant tell you how many times ive been told "autozone told me i need new converters" well autozone about to make you waste 600 dollars then. meanwhile the motors about to jump out the engine bay because its misfiring so bad. id tell them to get the misfire fixed but some people dont wanna hear that and just wanted new cats installed.
@LatitudeSky 3 жыл бұрын
New Cats sell for big bucks. It's been a few years since I sold parts but I recall they were about $400 each and many cars had two. The kind you weld in, versus bolt on, were cheaper. But either way, the parts salesman hit the jackpot selling two cats and a couple sensors to this customer. That's a fat commission coming their way. We were told, never argue with a customer if they come in wanting to buy a cat or a whole crate engine. Don't diagnose your way out of a sale. Just sell it. And that's what happened here. Not one person in that parts store all the way up to the district manager will be sad to hear a worker sold two cats.
@jakeschroeder1553 3 жыл бұрын
I have absolutely no official training as a mechanic but it still amazes me when people ask me to look at their stuff because they know I'm good at it and are surprised when I find the problem immediately just by, as Eric would put it, "visual inspection."
@pospc2 3 жыл бұрын
I was a diy for years before making the jump into being a mechanic. I often had people come to me as well. When I did jump into the world of being a mechanic I got to skip entry level tech. Point is it doesn't matter if you are a mechanic, you can still know your stuff.
@busbqbill449 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@danielesilvaggi 3 жыл бұрын
You are one of the easiest guys to listen to and by far one of the smartest. Thank you. I love watching and listening to you and learning from you. You are the best.
@bryantoth5249 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, just want to thank you for your excellent videos. Not only are you a very thoughtful mechanic, you are an effective teacher. Very few teachers/instructors tell us their thought processes while troubleshooting a problem. This gives us a why to the what.
@yousufal-balushi6488 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric To us your vids are free courses on an open university we learn alot from them. Keep up the great work you are doing God bless you and your family Keep up the good work.
@brianstefko8951 3 жыл бұрын
3 videos in one week? I'm in heaven
@buddybarker8511 3 жыл бұрын
The customer should thank you for going the extra step and reward you with the tune up job !
@youngb1ood 3 жыл бұрын
Agree
@mdotguy 3 жыл бұрын
Even if he isn't awarded that part of the job, super solid move on Eric's part to document and inform.
@dans_Learning_Curve 3 жыл бұрын
LoL Don't hold your breath!
@parochial2356 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Eric tried to sell him on the secondary ignition job, but the guy was broke after having Eric replace the cats and O2s and couldn't afford a set of plugs wires...
@wayneo7307 3 жыл бұрын
The Idiot Should have Had Eric Repair It First . He Would Have Found Out It Needed A Simple Tune Up !
@Buc_Stops_Here 3 жыл бұрын
You know you have a big problem if the scan tool tells you cylinder 7 or 8 is misfiring on a 6 cylinder engine. Always a great video to learn from, thanks.
@russgibson7376 3 жыл бұрын
Any time you figure out the issue, no matter if its 2 minutes or 2 hours long, it is a good video. Not everything is complicated, and its good to see that in practice.
@Vintageguy73 3 жыл бұрын
I had customers like that, so tight they squeaked. When I gained their trust it was a different ball game.
@haweater1555 3 жыл бұрын
About the tape: What Red Green says : "This fix is only temporary... unless it works!"
@justindunlap1235 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing lasts as long as a temporary measure.
@ewhartiii 3 жыл бұрын
@@justindunlap1235 unless it's a temporary emergency measure, those last forever.
@damian-oq7hl 3 жыл бұрын
Your ‘basic’ videos, in my opinion, are some of the best, most informative and most helpful videos on KZfaq. Please keep making them.
@zx8401ztv 3 жыл бұрын
Heatshrink tubing is handy for stuff like that, a pro bodge ha ha :) Your videos are never a waste of time or crap, always interesting and makes us think.
@joseiniguez9532 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. E , keep it to the kiss theory ! 27years in the automotive industry I have to say enjoy all your videos ! Keep up the great work!
@freetolook3727 3 жыл бұрын
At some shops, that electrical tape fix would net $300.
@repro7780 3 жыл бұрын
With a charge for shop supplies! (ie 6 inches of electrical tape, lol)
@larryferguson3387 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this guy is a righteous dude. Thank you how refreshing to find an honest guy.
@richardbambenek2601 3 жыл бұрын
Another rule I used in my computer days when tackling a problem that others had worked on is to act as if I was the first guy to lay hands on it so as not to go on other peoples conclusions.
@THEGEEK2001 3 жыл бұрын
100%! Been stung befote
@Pointlesschan 3 жыл бұрын
I am an electronics technician and this is something I do
@ColtaineCrows 3 жыл бұрын
Even if someone else in the same shop as me has looked at something I just start fresh when I do diags. You never know when they've skipped something or just forgotten to check the basics. Like my most recent blunder, I forgot to check the bulbs on a headlight that kept blowing fuses, 1.5 hours in before I realised the dead short was in the bulb and I hadn't actually isolated the circuit at all connectors. I had pulled the headlight out, but got had to give a hand to a co-worker for a minute, when I got back I'd totally forgotten I didn't actually unplug the headlight so I just went for the electronics box, then moved on to chasing wires. Luckily for the customer the truck in question was on a service plan so it didn't end up costing them anything extra other than some downtime which was already planned anyway.
@user-ki3dj9pu9y 3 жыл бұрын
The first guy couldn't fix it, so don't go off his diag lol
@gptcorleones 3 жыл бұрын
Enhance! Enhance! Enhance!.... Un-enhance!
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
Eric: Enhance! Enhance! Enhance! CLUNK!! Un-enhance! Un-enhance!
@JoesAutoElectric 3 жыл бұрын
Customer "I want you to put black tape on all my ignition wire!" Me "Huh?? Why??? Customer "I saw Eric O do it and it fixed the car!" Me "Ummm... Get out!"
@HouseCallAutoRepair 3 жыл бұрын
Trending: The Eric O wrap!
@RustySh4ckleford 3 жыл бұрын
LOL JOE!!
@jeramiet154 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@xMidgetFuryx1 3 жыл бұрын
sad part is you know this is going to happen one day
@bigdaddymak1439 3 жыл бұрын
You know Ivan is jealous 🤣🤣🤣
@AntonioClaudioMichael 3 жыл бұрын
Nice quick way to check the snail trail with some electrical Tape good work Eric O @SouthMainAutoRepair LLC
@thagerdorn2009 9 ай бұрын
That radio noise when you shut the key off brings so many good memories. Thats an old school Sony. My 80 Z28 has a Sony cd player in it that we had installed in 98, and that noise was to tell you to not forget your faceplate. One sound ill never get tired of hearing
@rightlanehog3151 3 жыл бұрын
Eric, Hello from the other side of Lake Ontario. Where is the hidden camera when you really need it? This scenario is the EXACT opposite of those 'gotcha' moments on TV where they set up an engine with a tiny issue and watch the garage turn it into a massively dishonest and expensive repair. Maybe you should have called this video something more lurid and bombastic like "Garage Refuses To Rip Off Customer!!!!!!" BTW bring back the manual 4Runner.
@glenjamindle 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like this channel would be bigger with better titles
@sadrevolution 3 жыл бұрын
You get a like just for the "bring back the manual 4Runner" comment!
@rightlanehog3151 3 жыл бұрын
@@glenjamindle You mean BIGGER and BETTER!!!!
@rightlanehog3151 3 жыл бұрын
@@sadrevolution I have been driving manual for 20 years, it is the only way to go.
@rightlanehog3151 3 жыл бұрын
@@lukensnicket Agreed.
@robertmoura7546 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty hard to do a job where the customer tells you what replace with a misfire like that, it even jittered my tablet watching lol, great honest job done, congrats
@tyclark8162 3 жыл бұрын
I can't say how many times I've had techs assuming the other shops had correctly diagnosed similar problems. KISS it, n don't assume anything. Dealerships are waist deep with diagnosing bogus engine failures. It's easy money n most folks just assume they're being honest. Not All Dealerships do that. Some shops upsell their products to gain revenue for their business owners. Keep it simple guys n Always be honest. Great videos for rainy days Mr. O. I always learn something watching your videos.
@Cidran100 3 жыл бұрын
You won't believe how many shop owners i have spoken to that say , If the client wants it done a certain way Screw it do it their way then fix it later. Thank you sir for being a better man!!!
@BlueRidgeJ79 3 жыл бұрын
My grandad was a diesel mechanic, mostly generators after he got out of the Air Force, and he was known for being a patient diagnoser. Like you said..understand the system as a whole, start big, and work your way down. You can find answers to lots of things that way.
@richardbambenek2601 3 жыл бұрын
Before you know whats broken you need to know what normal is, so you don't go down the rabbit hole.
@shawn_530 3 жыл бұрын
You can also learn a lot that way too! Such a great way to work.
@r3dhorse 3 жыл бұрын
Dating works the same way.
@Garth2011 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, because its not always just one item that is failing or failed.
@MrThaiko 3 жыл бұрын
Dumb question: can a diesel engine have these socalled "missfires"? Or do you need the 3rd ingredient spark for that?
@jeffreyleonard9800 3 жыл бұрын
No, not the small roll of electrical tape in that wide open space.... use a big roll 'fella'! Save the small roll for an area that's tight... Like a tiger.
@IAMNOSLEEP 3 жыл бұрын
In a tight space... roll some tape on a small socket.
@mdotguy 3 жыл бұрын
Confirmed. This guy tapes.
@SlipFitGarage 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking! I have about four or five small rolls(super 33+, of course) that I refuse to use unless the space is extremely tight. In fact, the other day I needed some electrical tape and all I could find was the small rolls and I refused to use them because the space wasn't small enough.... I had to make a special run to the store that day for a new roll just so I could save the small rolls. 😁
@stf2400 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t waste money on small rolls of tape, save those for tight spots and use big rolls for things like that.
@youcrackmeupdude 3 жыл бұрын
Give it a good stretch, too. Either as you apply it, or beforehand if the wire is real floppy. The tape will contract almost like shrink tubing and give a good seal. I saw him stretch it a little bit but I'm talking 50% more. So take 6" and make it 9". I know it's only temporary, but so many times temporary becomes "until it breaks again." My grandfather taught me that trick 20 something years ago. He worked for Nynex and Bell Atlantic out in the elements.
@commonsense2469 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure who is giving these vids a thumbs down!? Pretty much one of the best, most informative and entertaining auto channels on all of KZfaq!
@mikefranklin3528 3 жыл бұрын
I love being entertained even while most of this is over my head.
@8avexp 3 жыл бұрын
"Oh, look!" One of the plug wires on my Jeep went south on me a few years ago. The 4-liter six had a misfire and I figured since the plug wires were 8 years old, it might be a good idea to change them out in any case. No sooner had I pulled the boot off the #2 plug, I found the problem. The boot connection felt like a loose tooth, and when I cut the boot open, the inner core was literally hanging by a thread. It snapped with a gentle pull. I went ahead and changed out the rest of the wires, and when I fired it up, the engine was running smooth as silk. It was the first time I ever had a plug wire go bad.
@makingtechsense126 3 жыл бұрын
"We've added the piece of resistance." LOL!
@trevorpomroy550 3 жыл бұрын
Now THAT is humour!
@johnnywarnerperfectroad66 3 жыл бұрын
You're a wise man, unlike your customer who needs to stop playing the wise guy. Interesting and sound advice many thanks
@MirceaD28 3 жыл бұрын
Following your advice since I'm a simple man. Sticking to the basics, I click thumb up.
@billh230 3 жыл бұрын
Like I've always said: simple and stupid first, THEN dig deeper.
@MonsoonEast 3 жыл бұрын
Simple and stupid is usually cheaper too
@allanszast7579 3 жыл бұрын
Kiss principle Keep It Simple Stupid works most every time.
@robertbell525 3 жыл бұрын
I've learned this the hard way a few times. Now I try to catch myself before going too far down the hole
@cmans79tr7 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertbell525 - i use the "KISS" logic on my shade-tree stuff, but unfortunately the solution always comes out to be throw big money after bad, or junk the car😫
@robertbell525 3 жыл бұрын
@@cmans79tr7 my worst one was replacing a starter only to find the problem was corrosion on the battery terminal
@tundramanq 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this is a new one for me. I have the habit of replacing the plugs, wires, rotor bug and cap on my 94 Toyota truck every 6 years with Toyota parts. Nothing but a sweet purring engine. High and dry in NM but time eventually murders anything rubber and the bug to cap post arcing in the cap erodes the posts. Scraping the bug and posts just leaves overly large gaps. The cat may be able to clean itself and clear the code in a short time now that one cylinder isn't dumping raw gas into it and tripping the code - if caught early enough that the cat isn't roasted.
@LtBRS 3 жыл бұрын
It's a win-win. Hopefully he'll see that and you'll have a repeat customer for when other neglected issues come up.
@dirkdeboer6569 3 жыл бұрын
its amazing how many things can be solved by a quick visual inspection and sticking with the basics until you can prove otherwise.
@proanswers 3 жыл бұрын
Client telling you NOT to diagnose and install parts, not a type of client we cater too. Billions of people that want and need help the correct scientific way.
@parochial2356 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, defiantly an argument here that it may have been best to send the guy down the road to Swaptronics Auto Repair. A week later the guy's back at SMA with the same issue.
@Cheepchipsable 3 жыл бұрын
Same with replacing customer supplied parts. Best to weed out those customers or try to convince them they could be wasting their money. Sounds like this guy has been burnt and just doesn't trust any mechanic.
@justinballard7242 3 жыл бұрын
Same thing we do at the shop I work at
@markwatson9816 3 жыл бұрын
I built a 15+ year relationship with a family owned shop and even though I frequently have a good idea of the diagnosis all I pass on to them are my observations. Such as recently had a no crank on our Toyota Corolla. Measured battery voltage = around 12.7. Tapped starter, car cranked right up. Told them the same info. They diagnosed and put on the new starter. Mechanic said that that's exactly what he would have done but he liked my observations because it kept cranking for them and wouldn't fail. And he checked the charging voltage (as I did after I got it started and it was good) and did a quick battery load test and it passed. No crank issues since. In the past I would have put the starter on myself but I chose not to for two reasons: first working on cars is getting painful (arthritis) and more importantly I knew that their business had suffered due to Covid and my business could help them towards staying in business.
@proanswers 3 жыл бұрын
@@markwatson9816 Questions and communication are one thing and a good thing. Demand of replacing parts is foolish, ignorant and one sided. Over 50 years in business we've learned to say NO politely.
@mattadkins1771 3 жыл бұрын
I love it, sounds just like me,.. I don't recommend this fix, yes I do ummmm, i can't comment on this🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@billyba3043 3 жыл бұрын
Definition of pièce de résistance 1: the chief dish of a meal 2: an outstanding item or event : SHOWPIECE *****for those who missed the smooth comedic delivery of our favorite Master Mechanic
@carlosmoreira779 3 жыл бұрын
You litterally isolated the problem. Ivan would be super proud!
@tpcoachfix 3 жыл бұрын
I would say that this video acts as documentation, and we are all witnesses.
@mr.anderson910 3 жыл бұрын
Also learned from the sound it’s lunch time
@rusty1187 3 жыл бұрын
When that siren went off, it reminded me of the air raid sirens going off every Wednesday at noon, back in the 1960's.... Cold war stuff for you youngsters....
@dpyles9396 3 жыл бұрын
Even though you thing this is a turd video it is NOT. This was a very valid reminder run your troubleshooting methods!
@dutchcanuck59 3 жыл бұрын
I have had scans give me so many false positives. EGR fault = vacuum leaks, MAF sensor fault = wiring to the sensor or air filter. I still find myself wanting to replace sensors as a first step from time to time but always think of your videos as a reminder to start simple. The biggest lesson I learned is to test the sensor to verify the scan was accurate. Works every time.
@boboften9952 3 жыл бұрын
" Seven And Eight Are The Spare Ones In The Boot ( Trunk ) ."
@mveno123 3 жыл бұрын
7 and 8 are the ones with piston springs
@mazdaman1286 3 жыл бұрын
I would run the car to see if the cat efficiency recovered , they are remarkably resilient, do a post fix emission test then ask him to drop in two weeks later and do another. I have done this after fitting new plugs on a citroen, the owner had paid twice for them to be "replaced" but they were not and she had been conned,the plugs were factory fit, the gaps massive . New plugs and all the problems went away no intermittant misfire under load, performance came back and emissions became normal as the cat became self cleaning.
@chadchiasson7768 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve wondered about this idea of a cat regaining its top efficiency after some minor issues. Bank 1 works but not as quickly as bank 2. Could be normal, but I think it’s due to leaking valve stem seals. Changed seals and hoped to see positive results. No codes , just observation on my 97 f150 4.6l with 250k. Thanks food for thought
@mazdaman1286 3 жыл бұрын
@@chadchiasson7768 Too many places are more than happy to sell you Cats and Oxygen sensors. I always blip the throttle so that the mixture goes rich then let it die to idle often with live data you can see the oxygen sensor trying to work and with time some do come back and start working then the cat can try and become self cleaning. Oxygen sensors do become slow in switching with age and perhaps 100,000 miles they should be changed after all they do live in an unforgiving enviroment.
@likearockcm 3 жыл бұрын
Unbelievably impressed with Eric's integrity! I guess 90 % of mechanics out there would of replaced the wire and also o2 and cats for the money ! Customer happy thinking he got it right and mech. making more money than he deserves. Saved this guy a 1,000 bucks he better be grateful.👍
@fluorescentmug8333 3 жыл бұрын
I have an easy night time job, doesn’t pay much and I’m bored mostly. I really enjoy all of your content. You are one of few channels I subscribed too.
@TargaWheels 3 жыл бұрын
That would be a funny joke : "I have a 6 cylinder, but I have a misfire on 7 and 8. What do I do?" 😷😄
@tiredoldmechanic1791 3 жыл бұрын
Of course cylinders 7 and 8 don't fire if it only has 6 cylinders.
@mrpesky163 3 жыл бұрын
That means the first two cylinders in the wife's car need looked at! Lol
@harriettedaisy2233 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a used pickup, with 'electrical' issues. Took quite awhile to figure out that it had a computer from a 6 cyl, truck is an 8 cyl. i have no ideahow it started nevermind how it was able to go down the road.
@Pointlesschan 3 жыл бұрын
@@harriettedaisy2233 geez
@pv2xeek 3 жыл бұрын
@@tiredoldmechanic1791 I think you missed the joke
@jackpatteeuw9244 3 жыл бұрын
Many, MANY years ago I had a Gremlin (I6) that had a severe misfire when it was damp. New plugs, wires, cap rotor, still no joy. One evening I happened to have the hood up and the engine running (not a great idea) and noticed some blue sparkage. After further inspection, there was a carbon arc from the coil tower, under the center wire and down the back side of the coil to the ground strap. A good cleaning with brake cleaner and a rag reduced, but did not eliminate the amount of this blue "lightening". This track was black (on a black coil) and mostly hidden. I never replaced the coil, because the car got replaced in a few weeks !
@rightlanehog3151 3 жыл бұрын
Gremlin with a gremlin.
@jhitt79 3 жыл бұрын
Why isn’t it a “great idea?”
@milantrcka121 3 жыл бұрын
But, but, Gremlin was an American car! It was not a Brit! This is what happens to Brit cars like to a Triumph Spitfire I used to have some 50 years ago.
@aaronramsey3696 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Pro or amateur, that "broad-to-narrow" perspective is so important. As a DIY for 40 years, I keep a mental sticky note in my head: Fuel, Spark, Compression - in the correct Quantity, Quality and Timing. It reminds me not to go down rabbit holes until I've exhausted the basics. No matter how complex cars become, they are still electro-mechanical devices, able to be taken down by the simplest of electro-mechanical failures.
@DIYDaveOK 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric, always appreciate your videos.
@mbray10 3 жыл бұрын
man, seeing a 4R on here i was excited for a long video, but its a simple one :( dang yotas
@15205golfer 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same vehicle...same year. Awesome trucks. Only thing is, they like OEM parts. No aftermarket crap. But they last....
@BrockOBauma 3 жыл бұрын
@@15205golfer worth a few days shipping to get denso instead of parts store junk.
@debeeriz 3 жыл бұрын
il had a miss i could not find until i opened the bonnet on a misty night and saw the spark in the dark, so if you are talking basics look under the bonnet at night
@d.d4184 3 жыл бұрын
I like this channel a lot. The one thing that pisses me off is the slating most people who come on here give trained technicians. We are not all useless and some of us spend a lot of time and money on training.
@gcd123 3 жыл бұрын
I lucked onto an easy diagnosis years ago. Car was in a dark parking lot. Open hood, light show!
@chrisdehart2889 3 жыл бұрын
Still wanna have a beer with Eric O and talk cars
@giggiddy 3 жыл бұрын
Probably wouldn't be much fun because he's not a car enthusiast.
@hugglescake 3 жыл бұрын
Talk about hunting or fishing
@billziegmond4943 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to join in. I'll have a bourbon and buy a few rounds!
@hugglescake 3 жыл бұрын
and bring Yuengling
@mikemassegrafixshopmike 3 жыл бұрын
@Greger Holmes talk life the hell with cars
@ullrangtheviking4412 3 жыл бұрын
He needs injectors!🤣 10 seconds into the video he prequels the diagnosis!😂
@shawnberg5691 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than a fresh SMA video in the morning.
@RickM57 3 жыл бұрын
Always great to watch!
@tommyj19751 3 жыл бұрын
Must have a Sony stereo. The beeping sound after you turn off the ignition is the stereo reminding you to move the stereo faceplate.
@franksanchez911 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the very same thing Tommy!
@rysacroft 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same, it drives me nuts and there is no option to disable the beeps. It's crazy because where I live we never lock our cars.
@brycelovell6984 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same one lol. I just heard it as I read this comment. SUPER ANNOYING
@drewlinton3472 3 жыл бұрын
I have the same one...after getting so sick of it...there IS a way turn turn it off! You can look it up but the option doesn't appear in the menu unless the stereo is off
@brycelovell6984 3 жыл бұрын
@@drewlinton3472 I’ll try that. But how if the stereo is off?
@Jubeidono2012 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to bill him for the tape.
@cheypen2023 3 жыл бұрын
I love how detailed your videos are
@HotRod-wv4vm 3 жыл бұрын
Visual inspection, excellent tip👍
@jhitt79 3 жыл бұрын
Plumber shows up to customers house Customer: “put in a new water heater!” Plumber: : “sir you just have a shut valve.” Customer: “I said put in a water heater damn it!”
@jjthesavage 3 жыл бұрын
Yessir, only one I have is 3k, corona, mumble, manufacturing, mumble, go mumble yourself!
@wim0104 3 жыл бұрын
ours got a "buck 90" on it, all it ever needed was the A/F sensor (that also disables ABS & VSC... thanks, Toyota!). no misfire trouble ever, and cats are doing great: that guy'd rather go broke on cats & exhaust work, than spend change on coil packs!?
@flagmichael 3 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand why virtually any "CEL" event disables VSC and TRAC in Toyotas. I kinda understand: neither of those systems is going to work as designed if the engine is being erratic. But why a catalytic converter code will trigger it is a mystery to me.
@wim0104 3 жыл бұрын
@@flagmichael because politics; they want to make sure exhaust "problems" are not ignored.
@jamesdevr3637 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent, logical diagnosis. Often times mechanics overlook simple, easy to observe problems and start with the more complicated diagnostic procedures. Looking at basic components early on can lead to a shortened diagnostic trail and solution.
@Rareparrot 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video - Am Always Learning! Thanks !
@atticstattic 3 жыл бұрын
"Do you ever equivocate on repairs, sir?" -- oh, yes and no....
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
That answers as wishy-washy as Charlie Brown!
@atticstattic 3 жыл бұрын
@@markh.6687 Good old Charlie Brown...
@georgeadelsperger9729 3 жыл бұрын
Unrelated to this video, but a general question: “Who has had more farewell tours and messages, The Rolling Stones or Scotty Kilmer?”
@masoncaldwell998 3 жыл бұрын
Well, scotty retires or gets forced out or gets shut down by the feds or whatever once a week or so...
@bertgrau9246 3 жыл бұрын
@@masoncaldwell998 I don't even check out his video's any More I'm . Tired of all the drama about him leaving, then post another vid
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
Scotty by a longshot! He knows how to market a little bit. But a good person doing the Mechanical Lord's work, just a different style than SMA.
@masoncaldwell998 3 жыл бұрын
@@bertgrau9246 all his videos are pure comedy! No informational value, but but it's like going to the circus to watch the clown 🤣🤣
@carlwhoha769 3 жыл бұрын
As long as it's a Toyota it will be fine...
@bandenaccount 3 жыл бұрын
You do not know how much this video helped me. I’ve been helping my cousin diagnose her 99 4Runner with 335k miles, my BlueDriver scan tool said multiple cylinder misfire, so we did all new plugs and wires, ran smooth for 20 minutes then cylinder 6 started misfiring again and we assumed the engine was toast with that kind of mileage. I’ll have to look and see if that wire burned through.
@nutsnproud6932 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric.
@Yawwee 3 жыл бұрын
You are going to tell the customer what is causing the miss, recommend changing the wire or wire set, then replace cats and O2 sensors. Everyone is happy !!!!!! Good elementary trouble shooting, Eric Holmes !!!!!!!
@ToobxSox 3 жыл бұрын
Lol reminds me of when I pulled codes on a 2019 new cascadia and every circuit practically was showing a low voltage code. Turned out to be a bad battery in a pack of 4
@POOKIE5592 3 жыл бұрын
What's a Cascadia?
@timothybarney7257 3 жыл бұрын
@@POOKIE5592 Freightliner Cascadia OTR truck/semi
@ToobxSox 3 жыл бұрын
@@POOKIE5592 freightliner, it’s a heavy duty truck. Semi truck if you will. Shoulda added I’m a diesel mechanic lol
@markh.6687 3 жыл бұрын
@@ToobxSox I thought you invented a new country to the north. "Ah, Cascadia! Where men are men, and farm animals somewhat nervous!"
@ToobxSox 3 жыл бұрын
@@markh.6687 🤣
@jaredlyons3453 3 жыл бұрын
You go above and beyond what is needed I always appreciate a shop that does that and if it gets a spot on your schedule at a later date thats good for you in the end great video sir
@dougan1961 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic videos thank you very much for sharing
@imafarmboy2 3 жыл бұрын
does it really need cats and oxygen sensors or would "fixing" the missing cyl have eventually cleared the codes?
@less5406 3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was wondering.
@carlaskins3586 3 жыл бұрын
The misfire likely trashed the cats and O2 sensors by sending raw fuel down the exhaust. That's why Eric didn't want to just replace the cats. The misfire would've just trashed the new parts after a short while.
@montestu5502 3 жыл бұрын
One cylinder misfiring probably didn’t hurt the cats.
@itzluithewolf5580 3 жыл бұрын
@@montestu5502 All depends how long it was ran with the misfire
@dealerauctionnightmare4689 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. that misfire melted that cat.
@nickloss 3 жыл бұрын
That guy is gonna feel awfully damn stupid having to buy Cats because he needed plug wires
@misterhat5823 3 жыл бұрын
Probably still needs cats. Any length of time with that misfire would trash them.
@IAMNOSLEEP 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing... Cheers.
@brianbolan7330 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I watch, you're a great mechanic!!! It is the little details, I get smarter, helping me to see a ding dong, and keep moving. Thanks Eric O.!!!
@Name-vu1kn 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing it don’t need no injector, or you’d be in trouble. Truth, I kind of wanted it to be a dead injector.
@bertgrau9246 3 жыл бұрын
Name, if it had been an injector , it may not have had a cat code. cause there wouldn't have been excessive fuel not being burned. If the injector was dumping too much fuel, then I could see the cat code.
@Name-vu1kn 3 жыл бұрын
Bert Grau I was not thinking the diagnosis showed it was an injector, but the customer told Eric to just change the “cats and O2 sensors, and he didn’t want to pay for no injector” my comment was a joke.
@helivesonforever 3 жыл бұрын
"snail trail"
@jmcenterprises9591 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, great video Eric O
@mrbrockwell295 3 жыл бұрын
Always awesome videos! Great advice...stick to the basics! Thanks and God Bless you!
@jonhutchens9770 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised how long the computer works in older cars.
@-BuddyGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Solid state electronics are incredibly durable. If they don't overheat or get overloaded from an external issue they'll last decades of use, and when they're not being used they don't really wear.
@flagmichael 3 жыл бұрын
OBD2 has been around for 25 years come January 1. Suddenly I feel old.
@ColtaineCrows 3 жыл бұрын
Most ECUs we commonly see fail at our shop fail due to corrosion(a lot get mounted in the frame, or on the gearbox/engine), get the plugs wrecked by technicians and get corrosion in the connections, fail due to software update hiccups corrupting the memory chips in some unrecoverable way, or get "bit rot"/memory faults. Some older ECUs specific to our trucks would break due to lack of mechanical support of the PCB inside the casing since they didn't pot them back then. TBF most automotive ECUs are very reliable as far as electronics go, sensors are less so, especially those close to the emissions, but improving there as well.
@studmeister1977 3 жыл бұрын
Aahh. He's got the millenial anti theft deterrent. lol
@Peter-pv8xx 3 жыл бұрын
That all depends on where you live, most of the minority kids prefer manual transmissions in their rusted out old Honda civics, you know the ones, they're so low 5hey scrape the ground if they go over a slight bump in the road and fart all the way down the street, there are some in my city that are so ungodly loud, they even put clamps on the wheels so nobody will steal their most prized multicolored monstrosity.with the mismatched wheels and tires.
@DCShelton52 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely a professional! great video’s I appreciate the time you take to make them 👍🏻
@chuckychuck 3 жыл бұрын
There's not one honest mechanicin my state, But I came across one of your video when you were cleaning out a cabin filter. I work on my own vehiclce because I don't trust anyone, I took my car into a shop to have brakelines replaced and this fool almost tore my door off and bent those pins to keep it align after an 800.00 dollar job he done an didn't even cut me an break on that bill, this hacker didn't even try to fix it or realign my door Ihad to do it when I got home, Anyway I subscribed to your channel because of your honesty an professionalism.
@MrBeard-ig5zc 3 жыл бұрын
I bet it doesn't need a cat and an o2 sensor. People are so scared of getting ripped off they screw themselves. Oh well. The customer is always right.
@KenLyns 3 жыл бұрын
If it's been misfiring for some time, the unburned fuel likely destroyed the cat. Toyota will actually deny emission warranty claims if you don't change spark plugs at the book interval.
@tedjohnson64 3 жыл бұрын
Very impressive troubleshooting!
@dspain0214 3 жыл бұрын
My old '95 LHS had a boot do that on the 3.5, and I wrapped tape around it. The temporary repair was still working when I traded the car off 2 years later lol.
@unclemarksdiyauto 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job again Eric! The world needs more mechanics like you, who are fair, honest and are great at diagnosing issues!
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