We got the king of the adjustable dumbells, and the king of the adjustable benches, now we have the king of stuff knee sleeves. A thorough break down by a lifter for lifters, thanks Brandon!
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Now I can start getting rid of all these sleeves!
@gebthabeb11 ай бұрын
Bro, you literally just know what to upload when. Was just looking at all the new/ stiff sleeve options this morning.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
I'm behind on this one but figured this down week would be a good way to knock it out.
@gebthabeb11 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandonleaning towards pioneer. Like you said, very nice to the pockets, serves the same purpose and I have two belts from ‘em
@GlucksGym11 ай бұрын
I see Brandon, I click
@brentdawgs890511 ай бұрын
Brandon talking about stiffness gets me going. I know it gets you going. Stiffness, density, thickness.. Gluck would have a innuendo field day
@Massenomics11 ай бұрын
Samesies
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
You click thumbs down. I feel this.
@StevePCut11 ай бұрын
I see Gluck, I duck....
@928guy11 ай бұрын
Them Pioneer knee sleeves have a great price point, definitely "knee'd" to get a pair, great review as always 👍
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Well done sir.
@leonwestbroek7384Ай бұрын
Where can u buy them?
@rylanrogers385311 ай бұрын
I have the Ghost strong knee sleeves (due to my leg/knee shape) and love them. I also appreciate their aesthetic/price.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Right on!
@HughLeFitness11 ай бұрын
I wish I had the luxury of different sleeves to try. I only own a pair of OG Rehbands.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Hopefully this helps make a more informed decision if you decide to upgrade!
@Ainttrippin11 ай бұрын
lmao how dope is it that we all car enough about lifting to have clicked on, and watch, this video
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
TBH I've done much worse, like how to hang a banner on wall, how to curve the brim of a hat, and my favorite: how to cut the sleeves off a shirt.
@Nur3Ali11 ай бұрын
I just ordered the new SBD sleeves, an upgrade from my slight shots extreme X. I appreciate all your videos, mainly because I'm new to powerlifting, and my first meet is in 2 weeks! So thank you for all the valuable videos 💪🏽
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
My big issue with Slingshot stuff is the QC seems to be fairly inconsistent.
@Nur3Ali10 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon My first time using the new SBD sleeves was today, and they were so much better than the slingshot. I felt more comfortable in the hole and hit a new PR. They, of course, took some getting used to, but overall, I love the sleeves mainly because they feel amazing, and the level of added compression felt so much better.
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
@@Nur3Ali Right on, awesome to hear!
@tomdigliani204310 ай бұрын
First off, wanted to say thanks for all your vids and knowledge. I listened through many of them and learned a lot. I’m venturing into buying my first set of stiff knee sleeves after just running w rehbands from back in the day. General question: as I navigate all the options how do I know if a taper profile or cone or hybrid will work best for me and my massive leg measurements? I see all these ppl talking about having big calves and the issues w sizing and getting them on, but their “big calves” are seemingly tiny,tiny compared to me so I must be a freak lol. For reference my quads 3-4 inches above knee are 25.5”, knee center 18.5”, calf 20.25”. So I know I’m going to have some fun getting any of these on and off and likely I’m going w the largest sizes anyone offers if they fit me at all. Figured I’d at least ask a pro opinions as I head down the path. Thanks so much for all you do for the community. Just getting back into lifting consistently in my early 40s after a decade of complacency. 6 months in and so far, so good. All my best.
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
Hey Tom, thanks for the kind words. I think with those measurements one of the hour glass/ergo style sleeves will be up your alley. I fear the cone style sleeve might be too uncomfortable in the calf for you. With any of these sleeves they all scale in size, but for the hour glass shape I'd prob suggest sizing based off your knee as the bottoms will flare out some. I was just sent a pair of the updated Hansu sleeves and they're longer and denser than the ones I show in this video. They might be a great option to try as they're priced really low right now ($55 or so before shipping).
@TheCarterHomeGym11 ай бұрын
My old man knees appreciate the video
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Haha I got you dude.
@scooobyj871411 ай бұрын
Great video. Really dives deep into knee sleeves.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Thanks man!
@nowayjosehomegym11 ай бұрын
I’ve had couple of stiff pairs of knee sleeves and the weight vary from pair to pair. You can get a really heavy one or you can get a lighter one. Decided to switch from Inzers to Ghosts and they are much better. You need a pair of ghosts! Great video as always!
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
I don't think I'd like them. The shape doesn't fit me well, too much knee gap and then they slide down :(
@Stefan-qg4wb7 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandonAre Ghost a good Option for huge Calves? I know have the Inzer in M but its to small for my Calves, i couldnt get them off alone.
@bigbrown269011 ай бұрын
Hi Brandon, I think you’re missing another great option that might actually be the OG “stiff” sleeve. And that’s the Mark Bell EXTREME "X" KNEE SLEEVES for $96 but on sale for $81. Also just in general I use the Mark Bell Sleeves and they’ve been great.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Those are still the old style neoprene, just have a stiffer outer. I think you'd be surprised on how different these feel!
@bigbrown269011 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon Appreciate the insight Basement King! I’ll have to try out a proper pair of stiffy’s then😂
@Mannie06310 ай бұрын
Inzer just announced cone shaped ergo pros and I just saw the hansu are on sale for $58
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
Looks like someone watches my videos... :)
@Jannik02x11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your effort and such a great video!
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Sure thing!
@VincentLegent4 ай бұрын
I came here looking to confirm my bias to buy another pair of SBD, but I might end up ordering Pioneer after watching this video 😂 I used my large SDB since 2013 or 2015 something like that but they are bunching behind the knee now and the material is a bit broken in some spots. I also read that SDB quality went down over the years so I’m a bit reluctant to go for this brand. Idk if there is any truth to that. Also I’m hesitating between looking for more compression or thickness, I don’t really want to lose on the rebound. I wish there was a definitive answer as to what knee sleeves are simply the best Thank you for this video !
@BasementBrandon4 ай бұрын
So I put these sleeves here in a different league than SBD due to how much stiffer they are. You may find just getting a new pair of SBDs (or even their slighly heavier duty PL sleeves) would be fine for you.
@atp_powerlifting5607 ай бұрын
Great review as always 🙏
@BasementBrandon7 ай бұрын
Thanks Adam!
@babygiantbarbell101411 ай бұрын
Awesome list Brandon!
@brandonhoover212011 ай бұрын
Thanks.
@babygiantbarbell101411 ай бұрын
@@brandonhoover2120 😅
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Thanks, hopefully no more sleeves in my future.
@StephColbertsonStrength11 ай бұрын
Im a sucker for knee sleeve videos 😅. I’d like to get your opinion on the Helix knee sleeves if you’re able to get a pair.
@StephColbertsonStrength11 ай бұрын
Left the comment before I finished the video hahah.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
I did see a few at nats, but still haven't tried.
@firstlast238610 ай бұрын
Great video. I appreciated how you stressed that the SBD is a compression sleeve 1st. I assume its the highest tier for compression but would you mind doing a video on compression sleeves? Also I like to wear my SBD around the house for a few hours because the compression gives my knee tendons a passive isometric squeeze. Rehband are too light weight and short to give that same squeeze.
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
I'll put it on my to do list.
@jabognot32110 ай бұрын
I got to this video after seeing your latest Instagram reel about the new Inzer cone sleeves, and while you’re not going to be picking those up, I just wanted your opinion on whether you would believe it to be a better choice than the Pioneers, which I was originally planning on getting.
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
I don't think they'll be better, but they may be as good as they look very similar. Right now you can save a few bucks if you want Inzers, but I still prefer the minimal branding of the Pioneers and the lower true MSRP. I know Inzer just released a bunch of colors for their singlets and original Ergo Pros, so would assume we'll see color options in these cones as well.
@jaybar510010 ай бұрын
Im a big fan of pioneer and have been waiting for their 4x to get back in stock for my meet in november
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
🤞
@FLEXjs11 ай бұрын
I got a pair of the Inzer's based on your original review and I love them. Expensive AF, especially for me being in Canada with FX and Border issues, and they took forever to ship. I got the 2XL and they have great support but a real PITA to get off after my squat session. I'm cursed with huge calves. Poor me. LOL.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for you /sarcasm
@troynunley81617 ай бұрын
Same prob. Great sleeve. Easy on. 2 seconds. PITA 🫓 off. 10 minutes minimum. Calves 🙄
@slump65226 ай бұрын
Would be awesome if you did a review on stiff sleeve co knee sleeves
@BasementBrandon6 ай бұрын
Haven't heard of those ones. The issue I see is most companies are going through the same factories at this point so there's nothing really different outside of the branding.
@slump65226 ай бұрын
sean mills (AKA wheeze) is the one who started the company and thats exactly what he did, went through the same factory as everyone else but is selling them at a fraction of a cost with no branding@@BasementBrandon
@billminnery27774 ай бұрын
Hi Brandon. Quite awhile ago you recommended Stoic knee sleeves and I believe they were your "go to" sleeves. This time they were not mentioned. I purchased them and was satisfied with them but I am now in the market for new sleeves. Was wondering why Stoic was not reviewed before I purchase new sleeves.
@BasementBrandon4 ай бұрын
So this video was focused only on stiff sleeves. They’re much more brutal than what I’d deem “regular” sleeves. Stoic will be releasing their own likely later this year. In terms of every day sleeves, Stoics are still my go to. In fact I just bought another 2 pair!
@MaxSquats6 ай бұрын
awesome video! I'm curious to see what your opinion is going to be on the white toe lifting company knee sleeves, they appear to be similar to Iners or village hidden iron but I'm a bit skeptical.
@BasementBrandon6 ай бұрын
I think we're at a point now where one company is producing many of these and just doing label swaps.
@MaxSquats6 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon makes sense, might go with that then becausw it is significantly cheaper relatively speaking
@bowulf11 ай бұрын
What is your calf measurement for the Pioneer?
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Right around 15"
@Kiangles11 ай бұрын
The evolution of knee sleeves is getting out of control. I mean it’s crazy to think a pair costs about as much as an inzer belt 10 years ago. Im actually glad I stopped competing before the knee sleeves arrived. I now find myself not even wearing my old SBDs but rather the old blue rehbands😂
@Kiangles11 ай бұрын
It is funny that I hear ppl talking about sleeves like equipped lifters used to about wraps and suits😅. I guess there should be an asterisk for raw* lifting
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
It's all cyclical I think. It is funny to see people try to get as much support as possible and still be "raw" yet downplay equipped lifting.
@miguelcardenas849011 ай бұрын
I bought inzer s new belt and it was shipped in 5 days, got it with thw discount 89.99, the same as pioneer stock without the pal v2
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Nice!
@Ryan_SecordАй бұрын
What would you say is the most durable knee sleeve regardless of super stiff or even among the non-stiff options? I'm recovering from a knee injury and I plan on using weightlifting sleeves for judo which doesnt require constant deep squats and such but I still need good support that won't tear after a month for 120 bucks plus.
@BasementBrandonАй бұрын
Based off your comments I'd prob look at the 5mm rehband or sbd sleeves. 7mm powerlifting sleeves would prob be too much for other sorts of training and stiff sleeves would jsut be pointless.
@maxbuc111 ай бұрын
Very nice review! Interesting how there can be inconsistency for some brand. I wear Inzer size S and new sbd size S. I recently got a pair of A7 rigor mortis size L and they are tighter than both inzer s and sbd s. They aldo weigh 1.1 pound each. I think this new dense neoprene needs a tighter quality control to have steady state feeling, companies would differentiate themselves even by providing the same product with low to no variability.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Yep! Makes it hard to compare across brands for sure!
@moel630410 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm trying to decide between the A7 and new SBDs. Which do you prefer? I want good support but not so tight/rigid they become too uncomfortable to wear.
@DeenoDice8 ай бұрын
@@moel6304need an answer here too
@tajvir7 ай бұрын
needed this ngl
@BasementBrandon7 ай бұрын
🫡
@RaulKivine7 ай бұрын
I have a question about size guide If i compare my measurements to a guide on a7 site then I get 2 size variations L or Xl My knee is 37cm, quad 48cm and calf is 39cm So is smaller ok or bigger?
@BasementBrandon7 ай бұрын
For most stiff sleeves I would suggest going up if on the border.
@justin_kim8 ай бұрын
I recently saw a video by the swolefessor talking about the best sleeves and how he thinks "helix" sleeves are the best. Despite this i havent heard much buzz surrounding them. Do you have any thoughts on these sleeves if youve ever heard of them? The swolefessor alleges the stitching makes it far and above the best performance sleeve due to the compression in the hole. But the fact that ive never heard of anyone except for him using or talking about them makes me suspicious to their claims. Thank you for your time sir
@BasementBrandon8 ай бұрын
I've heard of a few people who own them and like them, but haven't tried myself. TBH i'm not sure how much difference stitching would make. It looks like just wearing an sbd sleeve backwards 🤷🏻♂️
@RN-yf4si7 ай бұрын
Could you make a more detailed review on the cerberus sleeves? Currently can't find any other reviews on them except this video
@BasementBrandon7 ай бұрын
A lot of the sleeves are very similar so same principles apply. If you find a cone shaped sleeves fit your leg styles the Cerberus are a good choice. I just think the Pioneer are better as they’re very similar, yet better priced.
@dallashutchins7983 ай бұрын
Pioneer is advertising “non competition knee sleeves, greater than 7mm” would then mean that they are 9mm? I called and they said some were greater and some were lesser than 7mm so I don’t even know if it’s a safe buy
@BasementBrandon3 ай бұрын
I think a batch came in that exceeded 7mm, so think like 7.5mm. They're fine to use as long as you're not aiming to use them in competition. If you are, just spend the $10 more for the competition version that are 7mm.
@jplift4 ай бұрын
My calves are 17” and my knees are 14.5” I wear size L SBDs, but they (along with many sleeves) bunch up behind the knee. What brand/model do you think would suit me best?
@BasementBrandon4 ай бұрын
I think you'll find a lot of these stiff sleeves a bit difficult. You might have the best luck with an ergo shape vs a cone shape like the SBDs.
@jplift3 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon thank you!
@alextheballer208 ай бұрын
Have you heard if stoic is coming out with a stiffer sleeve? Theres a "stiff knee sleeve" for stoic/liftnet on the IPF approved list for 2023-2026 but theres no listing for them on the website.
@BasementBrandon8 ай бұрын
Yep, they have had a few testers out there for their top athletes. They said they'd send me some but haven't seen a time frame.
@fromontgomery10 ай бұрын
Have you tried the Stoic sleeves? If so, how do they compare?
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
I have, I've used them for years. They're what I would consider last gen sleeves, but of that type, they're still may favorite.
@hispogo-ic8ix10 ай бұрын
hi, if my measurment left leg is 14,5" and right leg is 15" (calf 15,5" ), and thinking about SBD knee, what size i should go L or XL? i'm recently start clean slowly bulk Thanks
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
They SBD have a bit of give so I'd go with the smaller size.
@hispogo-ic8ix10 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon Okey, so gonna go for L, thanks for the help
@robertv62767 ай бұрын
hey man what is your calf measurement?
@BasementBrandon7 ай бұрын
around 15"
@lme_sparky11 ай бұрын
Damn I have the newest sbd “powerlifting” sleeves, I’ve never owned any “stiff” sleeves, so I thought the SBD were stiff, but I only can compare against rehbands and CrossFit sleeves etc. Are true stiff sleeves like those pioneers really that noticeable of a difference vs say the SBD? Great price on those pioneers. Hard to not want to try them.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
The first time you feel/wear a pair of one of these sleeves will blow your mind.
@ranillorodriguez68079 ай бұрын
Are the A7s in the review the rigor mortis ones? Do they fit better around the knee in compared to your stoics? my issue has always been the sleeves bunching behind the knee. thanks!
@BasementBrandon9 ай бұрын
They are the rigor mortis. I think sleeve bunching is partly from sizing, but also based off material. I didn't notice any signficant difference.
@twistedbarbell395011 ай бұрын
Solid review as always! I've been curious about the Pioneer's since you first mentioned them. At their price, I will give them a shot (likely after next meet), but I'm uncertain of the sizing. Based on your double purchase, it would seem they run small? Both of my current sleeves are soft and I prefer the tighter fit of the SBDs in L, compared to the XL of my Stoic's. I'd assume a XL to XXL would work?
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
So when we sized mine it was before he went off the calf measurement. That being said I'd still be in an XL. I'd equate these to a comp fit and will be my go to for heavy work. I bought a size up so that I can wear them in my hypertrophy blocks and give my legs a bit of a rest! I'd measure your calf and see where you fall. If you're kind of on the border of sizes, prob better to go up unless you want a comp fit.
@twistedbarbell395011 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon thanks brother
@wyllischu246711 ай бұрын
Maaaan... do I need another pair of knee sleeves? I'd probably have to try out the Pioneer sleeves since I love the company, and it's pretty much 1/2 the price of the SBDs after shipping, which would've been my other choice.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
TBH I just had to make this video so I could justify buying all these
@kanzakireito235 ай бұрын
I am currently looking to buy my first pair of sleeves that would last me for a while, on some of your old videos you recommend stoics and those are available on amazon for a decent price, would you consider those over these options? or are they different, thanks in advance!
@BasementBrandon5 ай бұрын
If it's going to be your first pair I would not recommend going with a stiff pair like the ones I show in this video. A "normal" pair from brands like Stoic, SBD, etc are likely your best bet!
@kanzakireito235 ай бұрын
Thanks! will take a look at the stoics then! @@BasementBrandon
@josephbloxham399211 ай бұрын
Do you think raw powerlifting will have an issue as knee sleeves get better? Seems like the best sleeves are starting to approach knee wraps in terms of rebound.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
It's an interesting question. I think most people who lift raw and don't like this trend will say it's getting too close to wraps, but those who have used wraps will say they'll never be on the same level.
@josephbloxham399211 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandonI've competed in both, and you're right, the best wraps are much better than the sleeves. But the sleeves today are definitely not the same as when I first started wearing them ten years ago.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
@@josephbloxham3992 100% agree, it's funny to go back and wear my blue rehbands and recall when I though they were adding so much weigh to my squat and then compare them to some of the sleeves shown here.
@paulmartinez67911 ай бұрын
Titan TKS are the worst sleeves I’ve ever had. The whole stitching on the side still didn’t help at all. The sleeve was still eating up the back of my leg. I squat twice a week, I had these last me for 2 months top before they broke. I total 16 squat session so keep that in mind folks. Had to go back to my old SBD sleeves. Also horrible customer service.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Yeah I think ripping may be a more common issue with some of these since they're so tight/rigid. Getting them on and off can lead to some tearing. Sorry to hear about your experience.
@joemullen84538 ай бұрын
What is your calf size? My calf is a 16 1/4 so the chart says 2XL for 16 inches. What do you think? Thanks
@BasementBrandon8 ай бұрын
Just around 15".
@johanjotun16476 ай бұрын
Do knee sleeves help with knee pain while squatting, I'm not worried about hitting heavy weight, I was having knee pain mt last workout, and i'm not even able to hit my own body weight yet... i'm trying to body build but i'm feeling pain in my knee at weights I can rep 8-12 times per set, and starting to worry i could end up hurting myself or ending up with pencil leggs.
@BasementBrandon6 ай бұрын
They can help add warmth/support, but they shouldn't be used to mask pain. That's usually a bigger issue.
@solraccccc11 ай бұрын
I want to buy the pioneer sleeves. My calf measures 15 1/8, do you recommend getting the XL or 2XL?
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
I'd say you're likely close to how mine fit. Being that the XL fit but are more of a comp fit (as tight as possible). The XXL will be easier to get on and off, but may slide some during extended use.
@Abah-cuh-bus6 ай бұрын
I’m in the same position and went with the 2xls. They are still pretty freaking hard to get on and off, but would I expect less bunching behind knee with 1XL? Thanks for the informative video!
@unf8able016 ай бұрын
I'm looking for sleeves that Will help with pain while squatting. I'm not a power lifter or anything so I don't need anything real expensive. Any help would be appreciated
@BasementBrandon6 ай бұрын
So I would never suggest anything to mask pain as that's usually an indication something is wrong. That being said, if you want sleeves I'd recommend looking at one of the more traditional 7mm sleeves (I prefer stoic), or even going with a 5mm sleeve (rehband).
@JoshBerryPL2 ай бұрын
Do you have a recommendation or preference for non-stiff sleeves?
@BasementBrandon2 ай бұрын
Personally I like Stoic or SBD
@EnglandLives11 ай бұрын
You know anything about the Norse Fitness 7mm knee sleeves? They look cool but can't find any independent reviews other than the high praise reviews on their own website. You seem like a good guy to ask 😄
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
From what I can see they look like regular import "soft" sleeves with just Norse branding.
@EnglandLives11 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon The info on their website makes it seem like they are something new with the R&D they have done, so it would be disappointing if they are indeed import sleeves with branding. Think I'll stick with the more established brands so I don't waste money. Thanks!
@chubbydinosaur11 ай бұрын
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on the "Thick Daddy Chokers".
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
I'm skeptical. The claim is made in USA, however from my research and understanding of the neoprene market, there isn't a way he could be offering the sleeves at that price point. My guess is the material itself is imported and/or constructed overseas but some of the procurement on his end (or final logos) are supplied by a US vendor.
@yoduz3 ай бұрын
I bought the Inzer´s two months ago and it has already started to tear. Size is ok and haven´t squatted more than 400 pounds. Not a good buy
@BasementBrandon3 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear
@goforbroke24 ай бұрын
Damn you don't own a pair of the OG blue Rehband knee sleeves? Mine are at least 12 years old lol and haven't fallen apart yet, I'm still surprised by the quality. I've tried other brands and they didn't last for long at all.
@BasementBrandon4 ай бұрын
I still have them. They just don’t offer the same support as modern sleeves, especially the stiff sleeves on this video.
@hehehehahaha31502 ай бұрын
i don’t understand A7. The new ones i bought are exactly 0.350 grams and the old ones are 0.450 grams. What you got is the new version 0.350 grams and I will tell you it’s not as good as the older versions. The older version provides insane rebound to the point where I PR from 120-140 in a single week
@BasementBrandonАй бұрын
These were the first rigor mortis sleeves released. What I will tell you is that sleeves can vary batch to batch. Not all neoprene is created equal. We've seen this with SBD, Inzer, and pretty much every brand out there.
@hehehehahaha3150Ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon thanks for the comment. Was just unsure if the quality changed just bc the mentioned weight were exact on the dot. To me it just seemed like they tried to saved on cost but maybe it’s just a different batch of neoprene.
@BasementBrandonАй бұрын
@@hehehehahaha3150 I won't say it can't, but just giving my experience. I've had multiple pairs of the same brands and have found weight varies. I've even had sleeves from the same set where one sleeve is significantly heavier than it's pair.
@bmstylee11 ай бұрын
Still rocking my old-school SBD sleeves. They keep working and I can't justify spending potentially $100+ to replace them.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
I still have mine!
@Clarence_Conqueror9 ай бұрын
How long have you been wearing them? And how many times a week do you squat?
@bmstylee9 ай бұрын
@@Clarence_Conqueror I squat 2-3x/week and I've been using them for around 4 years.
@tylerhercula527810 күн бұрын
Do you still like the pioneer ones the best?
@BasementBrandon7 күн бұрын
I've been using them for meets and heavy work but have also been working in the a7s to give my legs a bit of a break as they're not as hard on the back of my knees.
@jonhopkins60619 ай бұрын
Can I run in these?
@BasementBrandon9 ай бұрын
No!
@goetia198811 ай бұрын
Was sad to hear about the TKS, my coach swears by his and I've enjoyed my yellowjackets for sure.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
I know many who like them as well! Just my own experiences!
@REDHEADEDvlog10 ай бұрын
At what weight do you suggest getting knee sleeves?
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
TBH if you're interested in long term strength, I think you should get them now. But prob wouldn't jump right into the stiff sleeves like these.
@user-ds3rr5ug2c8 ай бұрын
Do you feel that the sbd M size and the Pioneer XL size are similar?
@BasementBrandon8 ай бұрын
I do not.
@troyleigh5565Ай бұрын
Would you say the pioneers are stiffer than inzers?
@BasementBrandonАй бұрын
They're the same material from what I can tell. Just in this case different shape. So depends on your leg measurements.
@troyleigh5565Ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon used your code to get some
@BasementBrandonАй бұрын
@@troyleigh5565 appreciated!
@anindachatterjee18254 ай бұрын
Which is the stiffest one
@BasementBrandon4 ай бұрын
They're all basically the same. Depends on your leg shape.
@Itsjusttim36511 ай бұрын
I fell in love with Inzers when they first came out. Recently been shopping for some competition only sleeves and just use my Inzers to train in. I ordered the pioneer and wanted them to work so bad but learned my leg shape can’t use a traditional taper sleeve. 😢
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
First world problems 🤪
@Itsjusttim3658 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon I know right.
@brentdawgs890511 ай бұрын
Which one do you like the best?!?!?
@nicokorkiamaki299111 ай бұрын
Pioneer
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
As someone mentioned I like Pioneer mostly for the fit and feel, but can't beat the price either.
@brentdawgs890511 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon they are out of stock on my size so I ordered Cerberus
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
@@brentdawgs8905 Solid sleeves!
@khailephd11 ай бұрын
No comparison with the rehbands?
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
The rehbands feel like paper compared to these. I was just hoping to provide some insight to those looking at stiff sleeves.
@TheKurtlocker11 ай бұрын
These knee sleeves are like the best friends of your knees - always there to lift you up and keep you supported! 👯♂🦵 #SleeveDreamTeam
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
We'll all be equipped lifters before we know it.
@nhpower135611 ай бұрын
Brandon, what are you knee and calf measurements please?
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
I don't have a measure on me at the moment but they're around 15-15.5
@nhpower135611 ай бұрын
Wow mine are the same, and I CANNOT get large iron rebels past my calves! Maybe a video on how u do that??
@JordanColoradoАй бұрын
@@nhpower1356late but iron rebels are notoriously small lol
@simony.88233 ай бұрын
As far as I know, at least 5 brands use the same factory.
@BasementBrandon3 ай бұрын
Yep!
@rodolfomedini993111 ай бұрын
Some people collect benches, some collect barbells, what am I going to say Brandon collects?
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
all of the above.
@darkknight71611 ай бұрын
Sounds like he's collecting stiffies
@juank44398 ай бұрын
Make one of knee wraps. Stoic brand?
@BasementBrandon7 ай бұрын
I haven’t used knee wraps so might not be the best person.
@mariomolnar31845 ай бұрын
Have you tried the Strength Shop Inferno Pro?
@BasementBrandon5 ай бұрын
I have not. I've found a lot of these are the same sleeve just relabeled.
@mariomolnar31845 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon yeah, i think those are basically the Rigor Mortis A7
@leonwestbroek7384Ай бұрын
What site can u buy the pioneers?
@BasementBrandonАй бұрын
Pioneer's own
@Metalmachine1810 ай бұрын
Do you find the pioneers taper down a lot more than the inzers? I’ve had inzers for awhile, work well but not in love with them. Slide down a lot too. I have larger quads and my knee and calf are about the same size. A7’s I couldn’t quite get high enough. So thinking of giving the Pioneers a go!
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
I've found this to be the case for myself. The inzers for me were too big on the bottom, so they had a gap when my knee was bent, which over reps caused them to slide down some. I don't have issues with the pioneers like this b/c it's more of a cone shape.
@Metalmachine1810 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon Ok got them in. Very similar sizing spread to you; S in Inzers, M in SBD, M in A7’s and L in Pioneers. And holy hell it feels like I’m wearing my Inzers on top of my A7’s. These truly are top notch
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
@@Metalmachine18 Glad to hear!!
@HenDiesel10 ай бұрын
“If you have a normal taper to your leg like I do…” Brandon, just say you have no calves.
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
That’s a weird way to say I have huge quads.
@Nogxme5 ай бұрын
Whats the best knee sleeves for big calves ?
@BasementBrandon5 ай бұрын
I'd prob suggest one of the ergo shaped ones as they tend to flare out towards the bottom.
@Nogxme5 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon thank you mr Brandon, I personally am on the bigger side of legs and calves for a 235lbs Bw Will look into Ergos, so Inzers
@BasementBrandon5 ай бұрын
@@Nogxme so that wouls also include Titan TKS and Ghost. Just depends what style/cost you like!
@Nogxme5 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon great ! Thank you so much mr Brandon
@qwwongss3311 ай бұрын
What’s your opinion if someone who have a pair of big calves wants to buy a pair of stiff knee sleeves? Currently, I have a pair of S size Inzer. They fit well on me. They do slide down a bit but it’s acceptable to me. However, I’m still wondering can I have a better choice than Inzer.
@googleuser342911 ай бұрын
did you size down for the inzers? I have S SBDs and they're easy to put on, would you recommend getting S in the inzers as well?
@qwwongss3311 ай бұрын
@@googleuser3429 I think it depends on how your legs shaped. I wore a pair of S size SBDs before but it’s important to measure different dimensions of your legs before getting one. Especially for calves.
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
What's your calf measurement? I have small calves and wear a small in inzer as well.
@qwwongss3311 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon Around 40cm/16inches
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
@@qwwongss33 Dang, my size small is a stuggle bus for my 15" calves.
@AdamIZxMiiDNIGHT11 ай бұрын
Iron Rebel user here if anyone has any questions
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
Nice!
@snoozy-san42597 ай бұрын
Stoic sleeves?
@BasementBrandon7 ай бұрын
Stoic are my preferred when it comes to the "regular" sleeves. However these stiff ones are on a much different level of support.
@snoozy-san42596 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandonif I think I need a more normal tapered sleeve, which sleeve, new SBD, stoic or any other brand do you recommend if I’m an advanced lifter, but have been focusing more on good heavy reps of for example 4-8 than PRs. Plus I wear my knee sleeves for the majority of my 2 leg sessions a week.
@BasementBrandon6 ай бұрын
Stoic are my preferred brand their for their quality and their cost. SBDs are also good, but more expensive and not as dense.
@mattsailor496611 ай бұрын
Stoic doesn't even garner a mention anymore?
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
They haven't released their stiff sleeves yet to the public. They are still my preferred "soft" sleeve.
@Timm12911 ай бұрын
I like my stoic brand. I guess since i don't compete stiffness doesn't matter to me
@mattsailor496611 ай бұрын
I didn't realize they were considered "soft". I really like mine.@@BasementBrandon
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
@@mattsailor4966 When I say soft I mean more like the normal sleeves we've seen the past few years. These stiff sleeves are a completely different animal!
@mattsailor496611 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon I had no idea, I thought Stoic were pretty stiff. Now I'm intrigued...
@CarlDrogo10 ай бұрын
you are missing the STOIC ones you used to like.
@BasementBrandon10 ай бұрын
This video is just on the newer stiff sleeves. The Stoics are what I would consider soft sleeves. Still a great option, just not the same type of sleeve IMO.
@DavidBlained11 ай бұрын
common pioneer w
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
👏
@darkknight71611 ай бұрын
Stiff
@BasementBrandon11 ай бұрын
So stiff
@marstokrom18726 ай бұрын
Unfortunate how few of these are IPF approved. Is a7 the winner out of the IPF approved sleeves? Quality issues and the shape of the Inzer and titan put me off.
@BasementBrandon6 ай бұрын
Yeah one of the annoying things about IPF approval. these all are to spec but they haven't all paid the fee. A lot of these stiff sleeves can have issues with not sized right. I have heard the inzers are back to being better these days however. I have not tried their new cone version but those or A7 would likely be my choice if I had to get one that met IPF approval.
@marstokrom18726 ай бұрын
@@BasementBrandon living in the uk where most people compete in the IPF affiliate (unless untested!) those two seem to be the main choices. In fact I don’t think I’ve seen anyone wearing any of the other options besides one pair of titans! Cheers for the response