Stihl 462 mtronic converted to carb - before and after

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Redbull661

Redbull661

5 жыл бұрын

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@nheng6913
@nheng6913 Жыл бұрын
Greatest video on KZfaq. My parts should arrive soon for converting my new 201TC-M to T. If I'm going to lose an engine from running lean, it's going to be my fault. Not leaving it to chance with the Mtronic system.
@Fleazy912
@Fleazy912 Ай бұрын
I have a 462 at his shop! Can’t wait to get that thing back lol
@backdraftdragon3150
@backdraftdragon3150 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video,I've been wanting to switch my362 from mtronic to reg carb. Tired of solenoid problems and no way of fixing in the field. Thanks.
@888HUSKERS
@888HUSKERS 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and conclusion, I’ve noticed exactly what you’re talking about differences in tune to cut. It’s difficult to keep it adjusted from one day to the next for optimal performance vs the M-Tronic auto turning between days or cuts.
@John_D2
@John_D2 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work , thanks for the upload !
@Redbull661
@Redbull661 5 жыл бұрын
:)
@arpadgyulai5534
@arpadgyulai5534 5 жыл бұрын
Nice work,thank you for sharing.
@Redbull661
@Redbull661 5 жыл бұрын
:)
@nvg1526
@nvg1526 4 жыл бұрын
If it’s not broke don’t fix it .....reg carb has worked just fine...good job
@Redbull661
@Redbull661 4 жыл бұрын
Id like to tell that to all the software engineers out there.
@larryreno8293
@larryreno8293 4 жыл бұрын
NVG So has the two man buck saw..progress is a good thing.
@em4703
@em4703 Жыл бұрын
You could say the same about car engines. But we would be stuck with 4.0l snails barely doing 200hp.
@spark6789
@spark6789 2 ай бұрын
I bought a 462 carb with the manual tuning I'd like to convert it to m tronic. Any idea what that would run me in parts?
@DIESELMAN8V92
@DIESELMAN8V92 3 жыл бұрын
Kick ass !!! nice work :)
@howardpineda2760
@howardpineda2760 4 жыл бұрын
nice video .here in the philippine we only have a standard carb for the 462 which is good.
@Redbull661
@Redbull661 4 жыл бұрын
greetings! 462 carb is a great saw
@howardpineda2760
@howardpineda2760 4 жыл бұрын
yes i manage to get one after two weeks of long waiting. its true ,this saw rips.
@antonerdmann8944
@antonerdmann8944 Жыл бұрын
What a great test. Thx for all your knowledge what you guys share with us. Greetz from Germany
@chrishausch5994
@chrishausch5994 5 жыл бұрын
I see Julian has been sweeping
@johntsoukas8723
@johntsoukas8723 5 жыл бұрын
That Tsumura bar is a thing of beauty!!!
@Redbull661
@Redbull661 5 жыл бұрын
I am a tsumura dealer if you want one shoot me an email :) ammotesting@gmail.com
@SixOFord
@SixOFord 4 жыл бұрын
Out of all the reduced weight bars who has the lightest?
@SixOFord
@SixOFord 4 жыл бұрын
In a 28"
@michellepugh2859
@michellepugh2859 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 462 from Greece. Excellent saw. Is Scott doing better? Sure hope so
@kenbenbow2673
@kenbenbow2673 4 жыл бұрын
The problem I have with the m-tronix saw is the cost to replace the ignition module, $175. The saw I have, a MS261C-M has run 5 years and the module failed. Is it less expense in the long run to convert it to a standard carb and ignition? There are a lot of after market parts available. Or maybe buying a Husqvarna saw and sell the Stihl for parts.
@markclark1605
@markclark1605 3 жыл бұрын
I bought the MS - 261 pro saw less the m - tonic. Glad Sthil is still offering them with or without the m- tronic. Like the carburetor model myself.
@johnm8891
@johnm8891 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I bought a non M Tronic 462 a few months ago. Dealer said that was all he could get due to the chip shortage. I like simplicity but was thinking I should convert to electronic to always have the optimum tune without any fiddling. Maybe I should rethink that.
@bluffsidetreeservice
@bluffsidetreeservice 3 жыл бұрын
Have a parts # list? Mines doing just fine now but few years down the road standard carb might be the way to go!! I cut firewood not a professional logger so Mines not getting ran daily which worries me on m tronic longevity.
@keagancottrell7887
@keagancottrell7887 2 жыл бұрын
I’m in the states and managed to get my hands on a standard model🤙🏼 the problem I’m running into is the stock carb adjustment only gives me less than a full turn. Did you gjys figure a solution to get past the stock adjustment stops?
@jonathanmallet9099
@jonathanmallet9099 2 жыл бұрын
So to swap over not only do I need the carb but also the new coil and fly wheel? Would it still work with the mtronic coil and an adjustable carb?
@eriksforestryvision8751
@eriksforestryvision8751 3 жыл бұрын
New carb and a rocked chain. I love m tonic we need to find a way to tune it, they need a bit more fuel.
@roccobarca4558
@roccobarca4558 3 жыл бұрын
Can be this done with stihl FS560 c em brushcutter?
@jorgeortega1709
@jorgeortega1709 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, so the parts you need for this swap are the Carb, flywheel and ignition coil from a non M-TRONIC 462 and you're good to go?
@tedcourier3422
@tedcourier3422 Жыл бұрын
also a wiring harness and air filter / carb base
@smithtradfallning
@smithtradfallning 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys!
@Redbull661
@Redbull661 5 жыл бұрын
:)
@pajapajic8809
@pajapajic8809 3 жыл бұрын
Bravo
@mikehopkins7384
@mikehopkins7384 4 жыл бұрын
I hate the new mtronic crap. Just found 2 261s with out it still on shelf had to buy them while I still could
@mattschipps1636
@mattschipps1636 4 жыл бұрын
Got a ms441c with mtronic. Is it possible to do the conversion? If so where can I find it? Thanks. Great video!
@Redbull661
@Redbull661 4 жыл бұрын
honestly i don't know sorry
@tortowisk
@tortowisk 3 жыл бұрын
which mark of this bar ?
@Hollywoodhouse74
@Hollywoodhouse74 3 жыл бұрын
What was the point to change it??
@ianmartin7283
@ianmartin7283 5 жыл бұрын
Seems like it's got more torque with the standard carb setup
@em4703
@em4703 Жыл бұрын
It just seems.
@rwilko9525
@rwilko9525 3 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at buying a new saw and tossing up between the 491 and the 462 obviously the 462 as the mtroniks. Is it better just to get one with manual carb adjustment?
@sethhaun4440
@sethhaun4440 3 жыл бұрын
Me to kinda
@sethhaun4440
@sethhaun4440 3 жыл бұрын
Yea but man its faster in meduim wood seems like not tryed 462 yet only held it to try the balance..afraid of those auto mtronics..like to feell and control the cutts
@royalefarms7637
@royalefarms7637 4 жыл бұрын
The M tronics are prone to fail in very dry dusty conditions such as a wildland fire application the air filters stop up way to fast
@gillerizedworksaws9561
@gillerizedworksaws9561 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I run the stokel stack's from red beard saws they work really really well
@em4703
@em4703 Жыл бұрын
What does dust have to do with m-tronic working? Nothing. It's just a simple sealed solenoid instead of some adjusting screw. How often do your solenoid adjusted fuel injector in your car fail due to the solenoid going bad? Never.
@mariosupertramp9396
@mariosupertramp9396 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, the components you used of which model are? Here in Italy they sell only the version with m / tronic. Did you find any great differences with the classic carburetor? Thanks for the video
@Redbull661
@Redbull661 5 жыл бұрын
bought a non mtronic 462 in greece.
@mariosupertramp9396
@mariosupertramp9396 5 жыл бұрын
@@Redbull661 but the different between mtronic and normal carb? Is still 6kg with the carb or its more lighter? Thanks and sorry for my English
@arpadgyulai5534
@arpadgyulai5534 5 жыл бұрын
@@mariosupertramp9396 Same weight,but I prefer normal carb,M-tronic has problem with solenoid.
@mariosupertramp9396
@mariosupertramp9396 5 жыл бұрын
@@arpadgyulai5534 do you know why stihl used zama carburator on the 462 and not the traditional walbro?
@arpadgyulai5534
@arpadgyulai5534 5 жыл бұрын
@@mariosupertramp9396 Because Stihl has Zama carburator factory in China,but dont worry I have Stihl FS 250 with zama carb. without any problem.
@chadm4229
@chadm4229 6 ай бұрын
Color me dumb. However, do the 462 c machines have the m tronic system? Or only the 462 cm inits have m tronic system?
@rogerpowers3891
@rogerpowers3891 5 ай бұрын
If there’s an M that means M-Tronic. If there’s no M then it’s just a regular carb.
@Benggii
@Benggii 5 жыл бұрын
Put some full skip chain on that bad boy 🤘
@jgbelmont
@jgbelmont 5 жыл бұрын
Why if it has the speed and power to pull full?
@davido6915
@davido6915 4 жыл бұрын
Look guys you proved what I have suspected for a while and that you get absolutely no gain from it. Its main purpose is too make it impossible to change your carburetor settings and make guys have to bring your saw in for expensive diagnostics because you cannot figure out what’s wrong with it. I think your wrong saying its better to use m tronic because different trees or limbing requires different carb settings, if it cut thru those blocks better then it will do everything better. All my m tronic saws stall when starting just as i saw yours do, thats not a great feature!
@sethhaun4440
@sethhaun4440 3 жыл бұрын
Aflleet comnand said can buy the parts cheaper ..but dont know about them
@neodymelanthanide2101
@neodymelanthanide2101 16 күн бұрын
@davido6915 hey same issue there ! Starts easily with starter on but when I accelerate it stalls. I pump the primer bulb again and see it's empty. This happens a few times then it's all good. Any way to fix it ?
@Ebaybow
@Ebaybow 5 жыл бұрын
So there is no use for an unlimited coil here?
@Redbull661
@Redbull661 5 жыл бұрын
both coils are limited by timing.
@royalefarms7637
@royalefarms7637 4 жыл бұрын
Put a coil on off a 440 or 460
@rowdyjohns8462
@rowdyjohns8462 5 жыл бұрын
Can this be done with the 661
@Redbull661
@Redbull661 5 жыл бұрын
yes. don't need to change the flywheel though. so that is nice. join opeforum.com there is a guy in the for sale section who sells kits from Europe.
@nheng6913
@nheng6913 Жыл бұрын
One of Mtronic's biggest failings is a lack of qualified repair people and those who are forced to shotfun a repair instead of diagnostics that point to the failed component. I suspect the non Mtronics will be running for years after the Mtronic saw is dead and buried from lack of parts or from excessive cost to repair.
@ZEDZEDrick78
@ZEDZEDrick78 4 жыл бұрын
whats the point of messing with them for 1 sec difference ? I don't get it
@joshuamusser8893
@joshuamusser8893 4 жыл бұрын
They didn't know what the result would be before they tried it.
@Vickvineager
@Vickvineager 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not so much for that one second, but rather the reliable carb setup over the fail prone M-tronic. I’m not all about fixing what’s not broken so to speak, but I am in big favor of simplifying a given setup to ensure years of reliability.
@joshuamusser8893
@joshuamusser8893 4 жыл бұрын
@@Vickvineager People complain about the M-tronic, while in reality, it is extremely rare for that feature to go bad on a saw. In fact Stihl dealers have to do more carb work and rebuilds on regular carbs than the electronic ones, on saws the same age. Only occasionally does one not work properly, and the majority of people who talk crap about it are hardcore old-schoolers who don't like it because it's 'computerized' and 'fail-prone' lol
@fernecrutatorul
@fernecrutatorul 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuamusser8893 , I have a 661 c with Mtronic... Ignition coil is busterd. Saw didn't run for 30 hours. Contacted shop, ignition coil not valid for waranty... The best thing is they not sell the mtronic version in my country, no parts available and I can't fix my saw...WTF?? I have to order igniton coil from ebay, but dont know if will fit...Have a 026 from 2002 and works without any issues...
@deye2233
@deye2233 5 жыл бұрын
Not as good ..... no sticker hahaha thanks J &TM
@Redbull661
@Redbull661 5 жыл бұрын
:)
@no.step.on.snek.2423
@no.step.on.snek.2423 2 жыл бұрын
A company.puts a wire on something and every old timer in the world craps their pants
@lukasebel3994
@lukasebel3994 2 жыл бұрын
But it makes stuff more complicated, harder to fix and more complicated, while offering no real advantage.
@em4703
@em4703 Жыл бұрын
@@lukasebel3994 The real advantage is perfect tune at all times, so more torque and cut speed. Also, there's nothing complicated about this simple solenoid setup, it's still a regular carb in an m-tronic.
@nheng6913
@nheng6913 Жыл бұрын
@@em4703 Yeah, perfect tune at all times until the firmware misreads or miscalculates conditions and you lean out. Now you own the upper. Mtronics is fine in concept but a chainsaw is an unforgiving environment for the electronics and wiring.
@jefflohr5533
@jefflohr5533 2 жыл бұрын
32:1 only hahahahahahahaha what a waste. 50:1 thats what Stihl recommends you guys running all that oil in the gas thinking you are adding protection kills me. You are doing nothing but letting less gas through the carb. fuel cools and makes power not oil!!
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