STIHL 500i Takes On a 661 MAGNUM [Rapid HEXA Chains] VS White Oak

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Evergreen Organics

Evergreen Organics

Жыл бұрын

Today we run a 500i up agains a 661 with the new Stihl Rapid HEXA chains on each saw. If you have additional knowledge of these HEXA chains and how they work please leave a comment below!
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@daviddunning8357
@daviddunning8357 7 ай бұрын
Much slower between cuts with 500i , but 661 mag still faster and heavier. I used to run an 0.66 and it was a beast too
@foggyvalleyacres
@foggyvalleyacres Жыл бұрын
I have a ripsaw worked 462 that I am working on videos for and it is a wild saw, I couldn’t imagine the 661! Great stuff my friend. New subscriber.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Thank you for checking out my little channel! Let me know when you drop your video and I’ll definitely give it a watch. Thanks for subscribing.
@louiseromero4577
@louiseromero4577 11 ай бұрын
Good work
@patrickpoulard24
@patrickpoulard24 Жыл бұрын
I have a Stihl 500i and the new Hexa chain too. What more could I possibly say, STIHL RUNS THE YARD. 😊👍🏿 #stihlpower #stihlisyourdaddy #stihlrunstheyard
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking out the video!
@patrickpoulard24
@patrickpoulard24 Жыл бұрын
@@evergreenorganics You are most certainly welcome. 😊
@FishHuntDive
@FishHuntDive 3 ай бұрын
Nice saws, I love my 500i with the bark box. But that’s a way cooler stormy cromer. My waxed cotton is the best hunting hat I own! lol
@edwindude9893
@edwindude9893 Жыл бұрын
I use a 661 now and after watching this I’m going to send it for porting and a new muffler this week…..cheers chaps.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Very cool. Thanks for watching!
@HanaBasara
@HanaBasara Жыл бұрын
I have 500i and I love it!! 🙋🇷🇴
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@longlowdog
@longlowdog 8 ай бұрын
The chips are small because the chain is a 'narrow kerf' design. Chips are smaller but there are more of them per minute due to higher retained chain speed from less drag.
@jamessmith6220
@jamessmith6220 Жыл бұрын
I think the raker, or depth Guage, is offset, so it has a clear cut path to travel, making less friction. the cutting tooth gives a little wider cut, allow more freedom , smoother faster cut
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Hey I never thought of that. I think you are on to something. Thanks for checking out my little channel. Take care James.
@tomyousch7070
@tomyousch7070 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@prtech7805
@prtech7805 3 ай бұрын
Hexa is best chain for non sand wood, Good review. If you can got same bar and chain it is perfect.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for checking out my little video.
@Ripsaw_Fin
@Ripsaw_Fin Жыл бұрын
You said it best that RIPSAW 661 rips!
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Ha! Thanks for your comment friend. That thing is just a little too fun. 😉
@kyleboman6
@kyleboman6 6 ай бұрын
White oak will most definitely produce a smaller chip than a soft wood. Big part of it depends on raker heights as well. I can get decent size white oak chips out of my square ground but I have been square filing for a long time. Typically factory chain no matter what kind is gonna produce those small chips in white oak. Typically the harder the wood the smaller the chip.
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 11 ай бұрын
Interesting about the rakers being offset, I’m going to look at my chains and see how different the HEXA is. I run round file, square, and HEXA. The round file dulls the quickest by far! I’m really impressed by the HEXA and will probably be converting most of our square, all the round chisel is already converted.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 11 ай бұрын
You like it better than square ground eh? The thing about the hexa that really threw me off were the small chips. It cut great but I am not used to chips that look like that.
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 11 ай бұрын
@@evergreenorganics I do like HEXA better than square. The square cuts a little faster but takes longer to sharpen. Hex is easy and quick to sharpen and is good at holding an edge. It also cuts incredibly smooth, even full skip, it cuts a little smoother than square. The pull or grabby/hungry is very low with good chips. The reason why the chips were small is because of the raker height. I’ve found that 0.040” is a good height for the rakers on HEXA. WCS has a great raker depth gauge.
@Rainbownites
@Rainbownites Жыл бұрын
Both beastly saws but wow that 660 is freakin wolfin!
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
That saw was ported by @RIPSAW, she’s a ripper for sure.
@rottiejakeluke
@rottiejakeluke Жыл бұрын
The raker on the hexagon ground chain is far offset to be more in line with the point, itself. It gives the best relationship to it to prevent a miss in height when adjusting. If it were straight like a round grind you would not hold the true relationship. IMHO.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing.
@boki647
@boki647 6 ай бұрын
Bravo maestrooo
@livingadamman7994
@livingadamman7994 Жыл бұрын
I got the Egan Uni Filter kit upgrade for my 500i, no cutting anything required. Together with the Egan Straight Shot it's a new machine.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
That Egan Straight Shot sure does make you remember to wear ear plugs.
@livingadamman7994
@livingadamman7994 Жыл бұрын
@@evergreenorganics Darn right lol. To state the obvious you should always have ear/ eye protection in any case.
@IsaChentnik
@IsaChentnik Жыл бұрын
how do you sharpen your chains? i use the file they gave me with my poulan but they never get as sharp as new again. also you think the stihl chains are better?
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
First, thank you for checking out my video. If you are a homeowner who uses a chainsaw a couple times per year then I don’t believe the type of chain you have will make any significant difference. If you cut firewood for your heat or to sell or do professional chainsaw work then yes I would only recommend Stihl Pro and Husqvarna XP chainsaws and professional chains etc. I use a hand file for my chains but after 7-8 times filing them I will take them to a chainsaw grinder and get them back to factory angles. If you’re having trouble keeping your chain sharp firstly you should sharpen your chain EVERY time you put fuel in your saw. Second if hand filing is not working for you, your local power center will sharpen your chains for around $8 per chain. Remember running a saw with a dull chain is the best way to ruin it as it causes overheating in the engine. I hope this was somewhat helpful and I suppose I should make a video on this topic. Thanks for commenting.
@logancote6703
@logancote6703 Жыл бұрын
where did you guys get those nice protective bottoms for the saws?
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Ordered from eBay. A few guys make them on there. Worth it.
@aerox1981yamahha
@aerox1981yamahha 7 ай бұрын
Hi the orange plastic cover under tank where can i find it?thanks advance
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 7 ай бұрын
That’s actually a powder coated aluminum tank protector. I get them from guys that make them on eBay. They’re around $30. You can get them bare aluminum which is what I have on my blackout 661 or basically any color you want.
@allisonekelly
@allisonekelly Жыл бұрын
👍
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Yeah baby
@redlinemotorcars2184
@redlinemotorcars2184 Жыл бұрын
I’m not sure about that hex I understand it’s hard wood but it didn’t seem to self feed well, I’d like to see a back to back with round ground if you’ve put anything up.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
I’m not really sold on the hex chains. I’m still a fan of round ground hand filed chains over these.
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 11 ай бұрын
Rakers were way to high. I’ve found 38-40 does great with the HEXA, 50 starts getting grabby and has a lot more pull. Thirty five and under requires dogs and the chips are large grain sawdust.
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 11 ай бұрын
@@evergreenorganicsSet the rakers to 40 and try it.
@williamhsteele
@williamhsteele 10 ай бұрын
Awesomeness! Where’d you get your protection plate for the 500i?
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 10 ай бұрын
eBay, it was like $30
@williamhsteele
@williamhsteele 10 ай бұрын
@@evergreenorganics understood, thank you!
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 10 ай бұрын
@@williamhsteele Steve’s Small Engine Saloon has some phenomenal videos on carb tuning. He’s my go to channel for all things small engine.
@williamhsteele
@williamhsteele 10 ай бұрын
@@evergreenorganics I just looked that channel up! Thank you for that!
@monsterbucks81
@monsterbucks81 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the skid plate for the 500i?
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Ebay
@briancorneal1
@briancorneal1 Жыл бұрын
Where’d you get the hexa chain?
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Local Stihl dealership in Wisconsin. If you know your chain size you can get them pretty easily online too.
@indybenson919
@indybenson919 Жыл бұрын
The sprocket covers are metal? Are those custom? I have the square cut chain also, had a triangular file laying around, honestly i was using a brand new square cut chain on a 36 inch bar on a stihl ms91, only cutting beetle kill dry standing dead spruce, nothing crazy big i would big that big of a bar for, but still, i was super impressed with the chain. Never heard about it, bright it in to the local stihl , they didn't know anything about it You're the only channel I've seen address the hexa chain and square cut chain Was looking for the right file i guess triangle is correct I noticed the triangle file i had was also filing the depth Guage down when i was sharpening. I brought it to a professional sharpener, he didn't know anything about it, he round ground it. Enjoy the channel, i would love to get some of those extras you have for your saw!
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
So on pro model Stihl saws the clutch covers are metal. On the farm and homeowner saws, they are plastic. The hexa chain has its own file and yes a square ground chain is a triangular file. You also square hand file in the opposite direction. So from the front of the tooth towards the back. This is so you don’t file the raker at the same time. Thanks for checking out my video! I’ll try to get some more content out soon.
@adrianstefan23
@adrianstefan23 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👏👏🏆🏆
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@canadiancutterschannel6787
@canadiancutterschannel6787 Жыл бұрын
Good day m8 how are you finding the wcs clutch cover for the 661
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Hi there, the WCS clutch cover for the 661 does not have captive bar nuts which for me personally makes it not worth buying. The 261, 362, 462, and 500i WCS clutch covers all have the captive bar nuts so I would recommend it only for those saws.
@canadiancutterschannel6787
@canadiancutterschannel6787 Жыл бұрын
@@evergreenorganics I could work around it, as it made no difference a couple years ago? How's the rubber compound soft and maluable or firm and sturdy
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
It’s actually a polyurethane material and not rubber surprisingly. Pretty stiff.
@jackylsmith8138
@jackylsmith8138 Жыл бұрын
You might want to bore cut the Ash after you do your front cut, to reduce the chance of a barber chair.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Depends on the lean, but thank you for thinking of our safety friend.
@user-lm5xo2dr5b
@user-lm5xo2dr5b 7 ай бұрын
Different size bar that's not fair either
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 7 ай бұрын
It wasn’t really meant to be an exact race between them. I mean the 661 is 11cc bigger anyway. Thanks for watching though! I’ll try to keep posting videos when I can about these saws.
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 Жыл бұрын
These new Hexa chains cut awesome! I just don't like the file gimmick.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Hey where you from there Jimbus? I see a Northwoods scene on your page for your background. You a midwesterner?
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 Жыл бұрын
@@evergreenorganics I actually live in Indiana but I spent my summers growing up in Northern Wisconsin, my grandparents had property in Stone Lake (just south of Hayward.) Haven't been up there in 10 years I really miss it! That picture btw is Sand Lake.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
@@jimbusmaximus4624 Stone Lake! Wow small world. Our family cottage is in Spooner. Our farm is in Northeast Wi. Northern Wi sure is a magical place.
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 Жыл бұрын
@@evergreenorganics WOW small world!! I love Spooner! It's a dream of mine to own property up there again some day. There's no finer thing in this world than pulling up to your own pier at sunset with a couple walleye.
@brianbelchuk9612
@brianbelchuk9612 Жыл бұрын
I have a 500t
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Do you mean 500i?
@user-lm5xo2dr5b
@user-lm5xo2dr5b 7 ай бұрын
One all of those chainsaws are ported and that's not fair
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 7 ай бұрын
😉
@user-yy3om6he2m
@user-yy3om6he2m 6 ай бұрын
What does ported mean ?
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 5 ай бұрын
@@user-yy3om6he2mit means the cylinder timing has been changed, the exhaust has been opened up, transfers have been smoothed, and the intake has been modified. This creates additional power in the saw.
@user-lm5xo2dr5b
@user-lm5xo2dr5b 7 ай бұрын
My money's on the 500 red
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 7 ай бұрын
So this was a stock 500i but I’ve heard ported 500i’s are absolute monsters. I’d like to get my hands on one someday.
@kyleboman6
@kyleboman6 6 ай бұрын
That square ground chain isn’t even right, I’m not sure if that is factory or hand filed but the angle doesn’t even match the corner. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was factory. A lot of times factory is worse than what you can do by hand
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 6 ай бұрын
That was a factory chain fresh out of the box.
@LabiaLicker
@LabiaLicker Жыл бұрын
No need to be seesawing the saw like that when cutting your cookies
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Does that bother you?
@LabiaLicker
@LabiaLicker Жыл бұрын
@@evergreenorganics You can hear the saws rpm drop and it adds unnecessary variables to your timed test.
@ivanlyons5277
@ivanlyons5277 Жыл бұрын
Stihl 500i , the chainsaw that your boyfriend gets you for your birthday.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@apuuvah
@apuuvah 3 ай бұрын
Well, this test didn't tell much of anything. Too much variables. With 500i U cut slower. Cuts should be timed one cookie at time. And, the 661 was not stock. But, thanks anyways.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@MsNick1975
@MsNick1975 2 ай бұрын
Your test fake. You made big pauses between cuts with ms 500, and with 600 you stepped on it. Complete BS.
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 2 ай бұрын
It’s also a ported 661 and a stock 500i. I’m not a god damn scientist but thanks for watching.
@timothysullivan4130
@timothysullivan4130 10 ай бұрын
My 500i IS PORTED & it has CRAZY POWER!👍👍
@evergreenorganics
@evergreenorganics 10 ай бұрын
They sure do wake up with porting.
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