Grave TheStampede Izaya just can’t catch a break

@@shannonbertin1953 he doesn't really deserve one though.

izaya is now in wheelchair. doctors told him he could walk again but he refuse, because he's been traumatized from Shizuo and he wanted his legs to be a reminder from that fight.

+Shannon Bertin Oh- he can catch a break alright... just ask his legs

Verona ruined the last one though...:-:

No because he manipulates social concepts to work in his favor

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@@hewhomakesnosound Nigga what?

I think he forgot what Shinra said about Izaya toward the end of the last (so far) season. He said that Izaya is basically the most sensitive of all, n the way that he chooses to block out every insult and hurtful attack against him and understands and accepts the worst of humanity, because that’s just the way humans are, and he loves that ability to be that unpredictable. Izaya also sees himself as a protector of that humanity, as in his own words he says that he sees Shizuo as a threat to humanity; as someone who could pose a threat to human progress. S In that light, you can almost see his manipulation of people as weeding out those who pose what he sees as a danger to humanity, by putting them against each other, because that’s what they deserve, and humanity would be all the better with them gone.

Shogo Makishima is also up there

I'd say he's second to Makishima

The reason so many people like Izaya so much is because he's not a villain, he's an antagonist, and the two are not always intertwined. See the explanation below for details. Below is a long paragraph regarding Digibro framing Izaya as a villain rather than as an antagonist and what the differences are. For TL;DR: Izaya is an antagonist, not a villain, as his methods and beliefs do not oppose the society in which he operates, rather his methods and beliefs interact with individuals in a manipulative way regardless of whether or not they help or harm them. In short, morality and philosophy hold little sway for him: he does what he does because that is who he is and what he enjoys doing, not because he fundamentally opposes society or the individuals involved on a philosophical or moral level. (You could argue his relationship with Shizuo differs in this regard, however, his conflict with him is not a moral one, simply something he finds to be unnatural and an inconvenience or an operational or mechanical opposition rather than a moral or philosophical opposition. Is he a sociopath? Maybe, sometimes its hard to tell. Is he an antagonist? Definitely. Is he a villain? I would argue he is not. See the paragraph below for more detail.) I have to disagree with your framing of Izaya as a villain. He is an antagonist, there is no doubt there, but villain and antagonist are two specific roles and he only fulfills one, not the other. An antagonist works with forces or within interests that are counter to the protagonists, who usually have to react to what the antagonist is doing. Izaya in the way he operates functions as something of a perfect antagonist, as he's almost entirely behind or at least involved in everything that occurs within the story itself, essentially the ultimate schemer and perpetrator. Antagonists are often opposed to individuals rather than entire societies or moral standards and principles, and they are only in opposition because of what an antagonist is doing rather than what they believe. Izaya's beliefs are highly pragmatic and functional: he often creates these scenarios to test the limits of individuals or even cause them to learn something. This might have something to do with Izaya's name deriving from the name Isaiah, who was a biblical prophet, preacher, and teacher. However, a villain is specifically defined as a character that works with morally reprehensible or otherwise evil intentions in mind, or is at least labeled as such by the society itself. This is where you run into a problem with Izaya: he does not consider morality whatsoever and society does not reject how he operates, individuals do. You can't place him as being morally evil because the rules and concepts of traditional or other types of morality do not apply to him either, and nothing he believes in or does violates the mores and standards of the society he exists within. He utilizes his abilities and furthers his goals regardless of what the moral implications are, while a true villain would be at least aware of where they stand when it comes to a moral stance and philosophical stance taken by the society in which they operate, and that society is often what they oppose, with individuals supporting said society becoming embodiments of it (such as how the Joker sees Batman as a vigilante extension of the society he opposes) rather than being seen as individuals in opposition to the villain's goals. You say so yourself within this video: Izaya utilizes the rules of society for his own personal gain, and society itself takes no issue with it. A villain would either be directly opposed to established society and its moral rules, or the villain would utilize methods that are considered completely in conflict with society's moral rules. (In terms of being in opposition to established moral rules; they might have their own moral justifications but that would be separate and in conflict with established moral rules of the society. This concept of villainy is also assuming that the established moral rules and the society itself are good or at least benign. Villains in works of dystopia function differently on a fundamental level due to this, but seeing as DuRaRaRa!! isn't considered dystopian, this is a non-issue).

I didn't read this. But good job.

THANK YOU! I was thinking about this the WHOLE VIDEO!

ah damn, your profile picture >.< xD

He’s not a sociopath, and he even has a friend!

If he was a sociopath he wouldn’t manage to do all that he does

Well... still talks to a head

I would probably marry that sociopath

Same

let's make it a discord? how about a mass watch in september? 30 days of DRRR? 24+12+12+12 episodes, so 60/2: 2 episodes a day? Come on people let's get it, Netflix has all 4 cores (in the U.S.)

Alex Castro atStewingInSusumu I'd join it! Post a link to the server here, properly set up the server with different categories(maybr even a bot) and get enough people.

Also promote it on Reddit

Is this actually happening? Would be cool if this actually happens.

I'd actually disagree. See the long explanation below for details. Below is a long paragraph regarding Digibro framing Izaya as a villain rather than as an antagonist and what the differences are. For TL;DR: Izaya is an antagonist, not a villain, as his methods and beliefs do not oppose the society in which he operates, rather his methods and beliefs interact with individuals in a manipulative way regardless of whether or not they help or harm them. In short, morality and philosophy hold little sway for him: he does what he does because that is who he is and what he enjoys doing, not because he fundamentally opposes society or the individuals involved on a philosophical or moral level. (You could argue his relationship with Shizuo differs in this regard, however, his conflict with him is not a moral one, simply something he finds to be unnatural and an inconvenience or an operational or mechanical opposition rather than a moral or philosophical opposition. Is he a sociopath? Maybe, sometimes its hard to tell. Is he an antagonist? Definitely. Is he a villain? I would argue he is not. See the paragraph below for more detail.) I have to disagree with your framing of Izaya as a villain. He is an antagonist, there is no doubt there, but villain and antagonist are two specific roles and he only fulfills one, not the other. An antagonist works with forces or within interests that are counter to the protagonists, who usually have to react to what the antagonist is doing. Izaya in the way he operates functions as something of a perfect antagonist, as he's almost entirely behind or at least involved in everything that occurs within the story itself, essentially the ultimate schemer and perpetrator. Antagonists are often opposed to individuals rather than entire societies or moral standards and principles, and they are only in opposition because of what an antagonist is doing rather than what they believe. Izaya's beliefs are highly pragmatic and functional: he often creates these scenarios to test the limits of individuals or even cause them to learn something. This might have something to do with Izaya's name deriving from the name Isaiah, who was a biblical prophet, preacher, and teacher. However, a villain is specifically defined as a character that works with morally reprehensible or otherwise evil intentions in mind, or is at least labeled as such by the society itself. This is where you run into a problem with Izaya: he does not consider morality whatsoever and society does not reject how he operates, individuals do. You can't place him as being morally evil because the rules and concepts of traditional or other types of morality do not apply to him either, and nothing he believes in or does violates the mores and standards of the society he exists within. He utilizes his abilities and furthers his goals regardless of what the moral implications are, while a true villain would be at least aware of where they stand when it comes to a moral stance and philosophical stance taken by the society in which they operate, and that society is often what they oppose, with individuals supporting said society becoming embodiments of it (such as how the Joker sees Batman as a vigilante extension of the society he opposes) rather than being seen as individuals in opposition to the villain's goals. You say so yourself within this video: Izaya utilizes the rules of society for his own personal gain, and society itself takes no issue with it. A villain would either be directly opposed to established society and its moral rules, or the villain would utilize methods that are considered completely in conflict with society's moral rules. (In terms of being in opposition to established moral rules; they might have their own moral justifications but that would be separate and in conflict with established moral rules of the society. This concept of villainy is also assuming that the established moral rules and the society itself are good or at least benign. Villains in works of dystopia function differently on a fundamental level due to this, but seeing as DuRaRaRa!! isn't considered dystopian, this is a non-issue).

Dio Drando where nigga

Dio Drando you are right, that's why I came here

Get out

Or todoroki from my hero academia

Saaaaaaaame!!

Tana s Except, that kind of Immortality is canon in the Durarara-verse, so he could actually be 21 forever if he lucked out.

Oreki Houtarou True, there is the supernatural factor to consider in the Durarara universe. However, obtaining immortality(if he even could) wouldn't automatically make Izaya a god. To achieve a god-like status, means to be fully understand the actions and motivations of society so as to have total control. Like Digibro said, Izaya is limited in this regard and cannot predict everything. He is also not the strongest character in the series. So if he seriouslly pisses off the wrong type of person (such as Simon), then they're going to make sure he wont be able to do it again. An AU where he does gain supernatural powers would be i teresting I have to say, however I'm still sure he could never achieve the god-like status he wants to. Theres way to many factors against him..doesent stop him from trying tho XD

In a way, everything he does is his own way of lashing out at society for that very reason... that he is only human. That is why he hates monsters and abnormalities like Shizuo. They belong in their own special category that cannot be assigned any logical connection or value. They are separate and disconnected from the very rules that he loves, and they represent everything that he wishes he was. The only way he could find a way to cope with such illogic and inequality, was to try and prove that there was no inequity in the first place... by showing that he could control and beat shizuo using "the rules of society".

Wait when was it said that people can get immortal in Durarara? I've watched the entire series, what did I miss?

Mausefell Durarara is by the same author as the Baccano series, which is about a group of immortals in the U.S. during the 1920s. These series exist in the same universe, and there were even cameos by Baccano characters in Durarara. So Izaya could become an immortal who would never age or get injured and could only be killed by another immortal. (Or, since the Vamp novels are also part of this universe, Izaya could theoretically become a vampire.)

ayeee my favorite anime channel in the comment section of the second favorite

And that's why I love him so much. He's so antagonistic yet entertaining that I keep rooting for what his next outcome is. Regardless on whether if it's beneficial or detrimental.

The reason so many people like Izaya so much is because he's not a villain, he's an antagonist, and the two are not always intertwined. See the explanation below for details. Below is a long paragraph regarding Digibro framing Izaya as a villain rather than as an antagonist and what the differences are. For TL;DR: Izaya is an antagonist, not a villain, as his methods and beliefs do not oppose the society in which he operates, rather his methods and beliefs interact with individuals in a manipulative way regardless of whether or not they help or harm them. In short, morality and philosophy hold little sway for him: he does what he does because that is who he is and what he enjoys doing, not because he fundamentally opposes society or the individuals involved on a philosophical or moral level. (You could argue his relationship with Shizuo differs in this regard, however, his conflict with him is not a moral one, simply something he finds to be unnatural and an inconvenience or an operational or mechanical opposition rather than a moral or philosophical opposition. Is he a sociopath? Maybe, sometimes its hard to tell. Is he an antagonist? Definitely. Is he a villain? I would argue he is not. See the paragraph below for more detail.) I have to disagree with your framing of Izaya as a villain. He is an antagonist, there is no doubt there, but villain and antagonist are two specific roles and he only fulfills one, not the other. An antagonist works with forces or within interests that are counter to the protagonists, who usually have to react to what the antagonist is doing. Izaya in the way he operates functions as something of a perfect antagonist, as he's almost entirely behind or at least involved in everything that occurs within the story itself, essentially the ultimate schemer and perpetrator. Antagonists are often opposed to individuals rather than entire societies or moral standards and principles, and they are only in opposition because of what an antagonist is doing rather than what they believe. Izaya's beliefs are highly pragmatic and functional: he often creates these scenarios to test the limits of individuals or even cause them to learn something. This might have something to do with Izaya's name deriving from the name Isaiah, who was a biblical prophet, preacher, and teacher. However, a villain is specifically defined as a character that works with morally reprehensible or otherwise evil intentions in mind, or is at least labeled as such by the society itself. This is where you run into a problem with Izaya: he does not consider morality whatsoever and society does not reject how he operates, individuals do. You can't place him as being morally evil because the rules and concepts of traditional or other types of morality do not apply to him either, and nothing he believes in or does violates the mores and standards of the society he exists within. He utilizes his abilities and furthers his goals regardless of what the moral implications are, while a true villain would be at least aware of where they stand when it comes to a moral stance and philosophical stance taken by the society in which they operate, and that society is often what they oppose, with individuals supporting said society becoming embodiments of it (such as how the Joker sees Batman as a vigilante extension of the society he opposes) rather than being seen as individuals in opposition to the villain's goals. You say so yourself within this video: Izaya utilizes the rules of society for his own personal gain, and society itself takes no issue with it. A villain would either be directly opposed to established society and its moral rules, or the villain would utilize methods that are considered completely in conflict with society's moral rules. (In terms of being in opposition to established moral rules; they might have their own moral justifications but that would be separate and in conflict with established moral rules of the society. This concept of villainy is also assuming that the established moral rules and the society itself are good or at least benign. Villains in works of dystopia function differently on a fundamental level due to this, but seeing as DuRaRaRa!! isn't considered dystopian, this is a non-issue).

WalkingGirlKoi Same

Which one?

Shizuoka or Izzy’s?

Fucking auto-correct.

Shizuo is both my wallpaper and lock screen on my phone my favourite character

Based Tsumugi that's a great progress for you, to be honest. ; )

I learned that despite the fandom's perception of Izaya as an untouchable badass he is canonically VERY touchable, especially by Simon and Shizuo.

If izaya was my kid I'd certainly be in jail for multiple instances of child abuse

BRIGHT SLAP x 2

"And what's wrong with me hitting you?" -Acting captain Bright Noa

"Come with me if you wanna live." -Darth Vader

"No, I am your father." -Bagpuss

Exactly! Many people think Celty is the most important one because she is the face (figuratively) of the series. But she is a passive character in contrast with the other active characters in Ikebukuro (Izaya being the most active one). Shit happens to her but not because of her and that´s the metric that I use to know when a character is more important or less than others.

According to Narita Celty is the main character, and I totally agree with you, she is a passive character, it is true that she connects all the characters and it is something that stands out very much at the end of the series, but is Izaya the one using those connections created by Celty to move all the characters, therefore, Izaya is a crucial character for the serie. Celty is a spider who creates threads without a purpose, and is Izaya the one using it to connect them and make something of worth of it as an spiderweb

I would argue that Miharu is more important but that's a story for another day.

Due to the marketing necessity of moe girls, Celty is objectively the most important character; just as every English teacher you ever had is objectively a failure for not teaching you the meaning of "objectively". If anyone can dispute it in any way, it's not objective. Not just if you disagree with everyone else disputing it. By the way, my Stand's ability is to trap the soul of anyone who misuses that word, so I got another!

to be fair in celty's defense it is heavily implied shinra is the kick starter to pushing izaya's human love to crazy lenghts. They did exchange some interesting dialogue in school. and i mean shinra kinda became who he was because of his infatuation of celty he was talking about her to izaya even back then. So to be fair it all kinda comes full circle but yes celty is not the direct cause intentionally like izaya.

I never watched it may i ask for its name, and is it worth watching?

@@dgamer1760 Durarara. Yes, It's always been a personal favorite of mine. The characters are all quirky and unique and it might seem slow at the first ep, but I advise you to go a couple of episodes in before making any judgements. Its character rather than plot oriented in my opinion, but if anyone would like to make a counterargument to that by all means do so. But anyhow....yea man. Go for it 👍

Golden time

Platinum

@@dgamer1760 the plot is gold. You should watch it, I personally enjoyed every episode and season of it. (anime- Durarara)

Well, I guess we will never see Izaya punched by his friends again since he's in a wheelchair now.

@@elenaovcharuk8529 that hurt me inside despite the date lol

HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA NOPE

I'm watching all of it for the 3rd time. God dammit help me

Me likey.

the beard was fake, but now that you mention it....

the similarity is so uncandy!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah cuz he also wears shades in the dark xD

When tf did this happen

@@glassyrainbow if I remember correctly it was when mikado told him that celtys head was on the news

Aka season 3

Oh, I think you are right, it feels more like he tolerates Celty than anything, perhaps he even find interesting how humanlike she is despite not being a human at all.

i think you might be pleasantly surprised with what the rest of the show has to offer.

I hope so. It'll be interesting to say the least.

tbh tbh izaya is the most interesting part of the show

You think so? I think a character like him can only be interesting if the world around him is just as fascinating. It would be amazing with or without him. But is made all the more so because he is there to stir the pot.

"You think so? I think a character like him can only be interesting if the world around him is just as fascinating. It would be amazing with or without him. But is made all the more so because he is there to stir the pot." You got it ! Izaya is a ton of fun and a memorable character for sure, but as Digi titled one of his past videos "Everyone is a badass in Durarara"

Izaya didn't plan to eventually destroy Mikado, though. He's not interested in harming people, just priming them for chaos.

I'm pretty sure that's the majority opinion. He's flashy, cool, in control, and a loner. He has all of the high points that characters like Kirito dream of having without being surrounded by the massive writing issues that those sorts of characters usually are.

Amir Butcher I was very disappointed that he didn't win. I love it when the sly villain beats all the "special" characters with nothing but his wits. Izaya had everything I love in a character, a twisted sense of humor, highly intelligent, fights with skill, the manipulative-type, and most importantly, his goals and motivation are personal. I'm so tired of characters that only do something because of external influence, I much prefer characters that make something happen for their own benefit.

Lazy Bones ah you must love Griffith then

bryan c Absolutely not, I don't dislike him as a character, but i don't gush over him either. Warning Spoiler: Griffith's first win was him being an opportunistic traitor and the second win wasn't even a contest because of his ascension to divinity. I much prefer Villains like Light from Death Note, The Major from Hellsing, Lelouch from Code Geass, or Char Aznable from Gundam.

I love Code Geass, but I don’t think Lelouch is a villain at all. He does villainous and particularly murdery shit, sure, but the whole show is morally gray. It criticizes people who think we can take on a method of being soft-asses to change a world as cruel as the one portrayed (especially through Suzaku’s hypocrisy of how he initially wanted to bring change). Every competent leader in the show hardly hesitates in taking lives, and although it’s acknowledged in passing - especially through exploring characters like the student council and Shirley - it is all portrayed as a simple result of the plans brought about by the key players. As I said, Suzaku does criticize this, but he’s not only ultimately shown to be hypocritical by committing the very actions he despises Zero for, but grows to acknowledge Lelouch’s brilliance and willingness to compromise in order to achieve the ultimate goal. In the end, of all the manipulation and bloodshed that Lelouch brings about through his actions, it’s all portrayed to be in service of eventual world peace. And he wins. He not only wins, but is depicted as morally superior to the two main antagonists, Schneizel and Charles. I paraphrase from Lelouch near the end of R2: “Father sought the past. Schneizel, you sought the present. But I shall seek the future!” Of course, he’s the one whose plan probably leads to the most widespread happiness and opportunity, at least in comparison to Charles’ destruction of God and Schneizel’s attempt at holding the world hostage with FLEIJA warheads. This was rambly I know. Its 4 am here. I may or may not reply because I used to argue too much in comments sections and I don’t want to do that anymore, at least not after spending a literal whole year arguing with some shithead on a Minecraft video.

So who do you like more Shizo or Izaya And have you seen baccano it is awesome!

My fav is Shizo and I've been meaning too get the Baccano light novel since the first book has been translated. If Boogiepop can get a new anime 20 years later then maybe there's hope for Baccano.

I also consider DRRR as one of my all-time favorites.

hello anxiety!

I mean, you’d figure it out at some point, assuming you don’t die accidentally. In which case that immortality didn’t really help all that much to begin with, did it?

I wonder how many years or centuries it would take. At what point do you, personally, come to the conclusion that you're immortal?

Jeremy Crow probably late 40’s to early 50’s. If I’m still as springy as I was in my 20’s, I’ll start thinking something’s up. When I hit 70 and I can still run a mile, I’d probably think I’m immortal. Unless it’s the shitty kind of immortality where you just age forever, then I’d say somewhere around 110.

I have a friend who still runs marathons in his 70s, but then again your appearance and health signs might give it away. There are also forms of immortality where you stop aging at a certain point and where you regress back to a certain age at what would be time of death. There are other possibilities but we start getting into "how do we know what's real" territory there, and that just breaks down conversations.

Pretty spot on

Same for me

TRUE

I'd have to disagree with both your Loki and Joker comparisons. See the long set of paragraphs below for details. Below is a long paragraph regarding Digibro framing Izaya as a villain rather than as an antagonist and what the differences are. For TL;DR: Izaya is an antagonist, not a villain, as his methods and beliefs do not oppose the society in which he operates, rather his methods and beliefs interact with individuals in a manipulative way regardless of whether or not they help or harm them. In short, morality and philosophy hold little sway for him: he does what he does because that is who he is and what he enjoys doing, not because he fundamentally opposes society or the individuals involved on a philosophical or moral level. (You could argue his relationship with Shizuo differs in this regard, however, his conflict with him is not a moral one, simply something he finds to be unnatural and an inconvenience or an operational or mechanical opposition rather than a moral or philosophical opposition. Is he a sociopath? Maybe, sometimes its hard to tell. Is he an antagonist? Definitely. Is he a villain? I would argue he is not. See the paragraph below for more detail.) I have to disagree with your framing of Izaya as a villain. He is an antagonist, there is no doubt there, but villain and antagonist are two specific roles and he only fulfills one, not the other. An antagonist works with forces or within interests that are counter to the protagonists, who usually have to react to what the antagonist is doing. Izaya in the way he operates functions as something of a perfect antagonist, as he's almost entirely behind or at least involved in everything that occurs within the story itself, essentially the ultimate schemer and perpetrator. Antagonists are often opposed to individuals rather than entire societies or moral standards and principles, and they are only in opposition because of what an antagonist is doing rather than what they believe. Izaya's beliefs are highly pragmatic and functional: he often creates these scenarios to test the limits of individuals or even cause them to learn something. This might have something to do with Izaya's name deriving from the name Isaiah, who was a biblical prophet, preacher, and teacher. However, a villain is specifically defined as a character that works with morally reprehensible or otherwise evil intentions in mind, or is at least labeled as such by the society itself. This is where you run into a problem with Izaya: he does not consider morality whatsoever and society does not reject how he operates, individuals do. You can't place him as being morally evil because the rules and concepts of traditional or other types of morality do not apply to him either, and nothing he believes in or does violates the mores and standards of the society he exists within. He utilizes his abilities and furthers his goals regardless of what the moral implications are, while a true villain would be at least aware of where they stand when it comes to a moral stance and philosophical stance taken by the society in which they operate, and that society is often what they oppose, with individuals supporting said society becoming embodiments of it (such as how the Joker sees Batman as a vigilante extension of the society he opposes) rather than being seen as individuals in opposition to the villain's goals. You say so yourself within this video: Izaya utilizes the rules of society for his own personal gain, and society itself takes no issue with it. A villain would either be directly opposed to established society and its moral rules, or the villain would utilize methods that are considered completely in conflict with society's moral rules. (In terms of being in opposition to established moral rules; they might have their own moral justifications but that would be separate and in conflict with established moral rules of the society. This concept of villainy is also assuming that the established moral rules and the society itself are good or at least benign. Villains in works of dystopia function differently on a fundamental level due to this, but seeing as DuRaRaRa!! isn't considered dystopian, this is a non-issue).