STOCK CL7 Euro R vs MODIFIED CL9 Type S

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KiwiCarLife

KiwiCarLife

Күн бұрын

It's time for a rematch! Between my modified K24 powered CL9 Accord Type S and a stock (ish) K20 powered CL7 Accord Euro R.
I compare the speed difference in a number of rolling races, talk about how the driving experience differs, and answer the question: Should I have just bought a Euro R in the first place?
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CL9 Modifications:
- Serge Bo ECU Reflash
- Corona Cold Air Intake
- PLM Headers
- Yonaka 2.5" Catback Exhaust
- DC5 Type R Gearset
- Tein S-Tech Lowering Springs
- Sparco DS1 18x7.5 +48 Wheels
- 225/45R18 Bridgestone Potenza RE003's
- Flow Designs Australia Lip Kit
- Type S Grille
- Euro R Shift Knob
- Modulo Sports Kit and Spoiler
CL7 Modifications:
- Pod Filter
- Custom Single-Exit Exhaust
- Tein Coilovers
- Aftermarket Wheels
- Flow Designs Lip Kit
- License Plate Relocation
- Tinted Lights
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:17 Rolling Races
2:31 Euro R Driving Experience
5:31 Type S Driving Experience
8:01 Engine Light Issues and Outro
Thanks for Watching!

Пікірлер: 253
@allyance8846
@allyance8846 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Today is the 19th anniversary of the 7th generation Accord. Absolutely love the CL7 Euro R.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers man and who knew!
@craiggreen4388
@craiggreen4388 Жыл бұрын
This is great to find the comparison between the 2 cars. I'm working on a 2.4 Type S CL9, I'm happy I have the hydro power steering & the 2.4 motor over the Euro R's offering.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Жыл бұрын
Yep that's the one man! I agree
@mitchellhutchinson3992
@mitchellhutchinson3992 2 жыл бұрын
awsome video mate i can't wait to see what you do next to the accord. keep it up
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers man!
@vlata9752
@vlata9752 Жыл бұрын
Just bought a euroR and waiting for pickup. Been binge watching all your euroR videos and it’s been great to see what I’m in for
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Жыл бұрын
Haha nice man you'll love it!
@vlata9752
@vlata9752 Жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife little bit over two months of ownership impressions. I’m shocked that a little 2L motor can clock the speedo. As you said, the steering really is numb. I’m not sure if that’s poor alignment or stock suspension but the electronic steering really isn’t it. It’s like I turn hard into a corner but the car wants to do it’s own thing. Otherwise, it’s a good mix between performance and daily car. Love your videos bro. Keep up the awesome work
@bubblesidfk6318
@bubblesidfk6318 2 жыл бұрын
great video keep them up!
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@reecelivesey5435
@reecelivesey5435 2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered a knock sensor with wiring kit from speed science. Excellent reviews as in no issues with it, made stronger as well and cheaper than original
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes I'll look into that
@johnconnor7501
@johnconnor7501 Ай бұрын
This chad always has the best videos!
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Ай бұрын
Thanks man appreciate it
@oscarkabowski8413
@oscarkabowski8413 2 жыл бұрын
10/10 video again! Line up an Fn2 type R against the CL7 Euro R soon!
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers man and yeah if I can find an fn2 I will
@0nTheRedline
@0nTheRedline 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me miss my CL7, they used to be a dime a dozen but not anymore - Great review!
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah defo that's the trouble is that they're so expensive now aye - well worth it tho
@gyallis4life617
@gyallis4life617 Жыл бұрын
Same bro I miss mines so much 😪
@mastermorphine
@mastermorphine 2 жыл бұрын
Great 👍🏻 video. Thank you 👏🏻
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
All good!
@Sizan0071
@Sizan0071 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Comparison vid mate. Looking forward to the next one. Thumbs up.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers man
@Stinow
@Stinow Жыл бұрын
Nice vid and comparison. Though I would never drive that speed through the mountains.. damn
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Жыл бұрын
Thanks and I think the camera makes it look faster than it really is. Maybe got to 80? I dunno. Driven that road 100's of times
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 2 жыл бұрын
Man, the JR3's on that CL7 look really dope.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's pretty tasty
@alexc5022
@alexc5022 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife The knock sensor needs to be replaced. the CU2 one is a good replacement as well.
@WayToManyAssassins
@WayToManyAssassins Жыл бұрын
Owned the cl9 a few years back, put same new rims on it and a spoiler and the thing looked sick. Plus only issue i had was the battery went out but thats to be wxpected. Pretty reliable.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Жыл бұрын
Yeah they're great
@speedshack3366
@speedshack3366 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kewldewd4100
@kewldewd4100 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a cl7 euro r. Seriously so much fun! I go for casual drives on my lunch break 😆
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah mate they're amazing aye
@jimbojims
@jimbojims 2 жыл бұрын
The JDM Euro R K20A has 5-9 ft lbs of torque less than the K24A but has a flatter torque curve if I’m not mistaken, more torque at lower RPM. It also weighs about 130 lbs less and has 20 hp more. The JDM CL7 Euro R is an awesome all rounder and has huge value for money in it. Prices are jumping up quite quickly for them now as well.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah stock for stock it's no comparison. Euro R makes more power, has shorter gears, and weighs a little less. I guess what this highlights tho is how much potential the K24 has...
@kettlsonv8338
@kettlsonv8338 7 ай бұрын
torque in ftlbs XDDDDDDD, weight in lbs, mad asf
@myisaacvideos
@myisaacvideos 2 жыл бұрын
For your cl9 get a set of stock usdm k24a2 06-08 tsx camshafts. Your vtec engagement will be more pronounced and you will gain more power while retaining oem reliability.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
That's true, would be a good mod for sure. Spency tho and I'm starting to run out of interest in continuing to pour money into this tbh
@waseembux7537
@waseembux7537 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife one thing you haven't done though is fitting the rsp intake manifold onto it . You'll see a massive gain on the midrange and your CAI will absolutely sing.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@waseembux7537 yeah got a skunk2 manifold on the way
@eurotom288
@eurotom288 2 жыл бұрын
I have just bought a November 2008 final edition CL7 Euro R and I love it, there great performance cars, and quicker than you might think, by the way the steering in my car is perfect, there must be something wrong with the car you were testing out , drive safe.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Drive one with hydraulic steering and you'll notice the difference immediately
@jacobprice4907
@jacobprice4907 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with steering feel it’s just quite dis engaging , had a dc2 and that’s the main difference that first jumped out to me
@olihaub
@olihaub 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a track battle between the cl1, cl7 and your cl9. That would be epic.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
That would be very epic actually... will have to try tee something up
@olihaub
@olihaub 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife do it, I recon you would get alot of views. Capturing 3 different popular hondas
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@olihaub yeah for sure man
@adrianhargrave
@adrianhargrave 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! What wheels are on the Euro R? TE37s?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Some sort of replica designed to look like them yeah
@TheBboyRyujin
@TheBboyRyujin 2 жыл бұрын
Yea that 4th gear race showed the difference. The earlier race, the cl7 would pull in 2nd gear but going into 3rd the k24 just sent it. I thought so too. Why would the k20 pull like that with the same gears? Interesting to see. Definitely want a euro r in the future when it's 2031.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
In 2nd maybe he just got on the throttle slightly earlier... I dunno tbh
@butterz3488
@butterz3488 2 жыл бұрын
GO see Ben at Pro Spark in upperhutt, hel sort ya out. Great vid mate
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes cheers for that
@SCSTAL
@SCSTAL 3 ай бұрын
Guau menudos vídeos!!! Me e comprado también un accord cl9 basado en tus vídeos. Ahora a modificar. Por donde empezarías tu ahora ?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 3 ай бұрын
Yes
@nguyenthienphu7417
@nguyenthienphu7417 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review mate. Love the Euro R. I am struggling between mps3 gen 2 and Euro R, not sure which one to buy. Which one would you reckon? I owned Euro R before and still in love with it. I still like to try something new.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Euro r will always be more special, but mps has more overhead. If u wanna keep stock I'd say euro r, if you wanna modify, go mps
@bigguwapbrixks187
@bigguwapbrixks187 2 жыл бұрын
I would go with a dc2r jdm spec let me tell ya it’s night and day compared to accord
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@bigguwapbrixks187 driven one, and yeah the accord is way better
@nyanlin
@nyanlin 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison video mate. I'm in this exact situation as I'm thinking about importing a CL7R. You mentioned, modified CL9 has better torque, better steering feel (hydraulic) but yet you also mentioned if you can go back 1 year back, you would have bought a CL7R. Could you please explain abit more? Do you know how the steering feel can be improved on a CL7R?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Not really sure how the steering feel can be improved tbh, but yeah it's a case of the CL9 is the better car on paper, but the euro r's engine just has so much zing. It just feels special and unique, whereas the CL9 is just not quite the same. I'm sure with a few mods to increase the redline of the K24 it would be just as good. But there's something to be said for 8600rpm in a family sedan
@golferaucklandnz
@golferaucklandnz 2 жыл бұрын
If you're from new Zealand you cannot import a cl7r because there's no electronic stability control. You'll be waiting for it to be 20 years old to import and by that stage the government will come up with another rule to make it impossible to do so.
@chrlda6857
@chrlda6857 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife I drive a automatic CL7 K20a6 8400 rpm limited to 180 KM/H and it bothers me so much. 1st cause I know that the engine can give me more cause i get to 180 on the 3rd gear, and really envy those extra 600rpm on the manual Euro R. Yet, the seats on on the auto are just better then the recaro.
@AndreiChirca
@AndreiChirca Жыл бұрын
@@chrlda6857 k20a6 it is cl7, cl7 and cl7R are completely different cars...
@oscarkabowski8413
@oscarkabowski8413 2 жыл бұрын
You should put a DC5/EP3R or Euro R Momo wheel in your CL9 if you haven’t already. 👌
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Nah I wanna keep cruise control and stereo controls
@enigmaenigma1260
@enigmaenigma1260 2 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@jacobprice4907
@jacobprice4907 2 жыл бұрын
What splitter is on the euro r , love the look of it
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Generic eBay one
@1_chilled_guy595
@1_chilled_guy595 2 жыл бұрын
We also just got the Type S without the Euro R in SA, That K20 is a gem, but there's no replacement for displacement, the K24 should be a little more reliable
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah probably - it's too bad Honda never made a true K24A... Coz they all make more power than the K20 in the long run but you've gotta swap basically every useful K20 bit onto a K24 block to make it work...
@1_chilled_guy595
@1_chilled_guy595 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife agreed! costly effort though !
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
That's the trouble aye...
@1_chilled_guy595
@1_chilled_guy595 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife All the best with your build dude, keep us updated!
@saabiq1441
@saabiq1441 Ай бұрын
would u know what holder was bought or how the type r mounted its license plates on the side?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Ай бұрын
They’re just bolted into the bumper
@vando1267
@vando1267 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s a good video that shows how to replace the knock sensor. It’s located behind the intake manifold next to the starter. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ediPpZOAuKu5oZs.html As for the IAT, maybe try cleaning the sensor first and then pull the battery to see if the CEL reappears. If that doesn’t work, then likely time to replace it.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yep cheers
@mastermorphine
@mastermorphine 2 жыл бұрын
Yes 👍🏻
@samhassall1926
@samhassall1926 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible/ easy to swap the steering rack and system from you car to the R? Would be perfect then 😍
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly could, not much point tho. But yeah hydraulic steering is infinitely better than the eps in the euro r
@ztworks6524
@ztworks6524 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a cl7 accord earlier this year with the K24 it had 245ks still went pretty good considering the ks with no issues but sold it, now have a GTI and in heaps of engine n electronic issues honestly miss the Honda reliability.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahhh I guess that's the way it goes with the euros aye
@andychan4814
@andychan4814 2 жыл бұрын
In regards to all the modifications you have done, is it included on your insurance?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@kimnotking9742
@kimnotking9742 8 ай бұрын
3:17 the last 400rpm almost have the same sound of gt4rs flat 6 ringing
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 8 ай бұрын
Yeah man they really go aye
@sherhindersingh4886
@sherhindersingh4886 2 жыл бұрын
I have a honda accord 2004 model powered by k24a4 engine. What suggestion you can share that i can increase my horsepower or performance by using the same engine ?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Not much bro, the a4 isn't tuneable
@joshuayammer1994
@joshuayammer1994 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love vtec bro
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah man
@huskins3764
@huskins3764 2 жыл бұрын
hey man, my CL7 bonnet latch is jammed, lever inside car isn’t grabbing and i’m extremely annoyed, reckon you could do a video on it
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Uhh could do? Trouble is I'd need a car with a broken latch to show how to fix it... which I do not have...
@golferaucklandnz
@golferaucklandnz 2 жыл бұрын
You need to adjust the bolt inside the actual bonnet.
@chrlda6857
@chrlda6857 2 жыл бұрын
Could you do the comparison between the Euro R and BMW 325i?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ra6ZZ9Wf1dfYdYU.html
@hondamanvtec2894
@hondamanvtec2894 2 жыл бұрын
E46 330i is better to use then 325i is to slow
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@hondamanvtec2894 yes agreed
@Shabbe02
@Shabbe02 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe its time for a kpro v4, K20A head, rrc intake, etc on your beautiful CL9 :-)
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds expensive!
@fistmyass
@fistmyass Жыл бұрын
Hey i’m a bit new to the whole “car world” but some accords i’ve ran into don’t have the euro, euro r and type s badge, so are they just an accord ?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Жыл бұрын
Yeah so basically here's a quick rundown: Accord Euro = NZ New Accord - 140kW 2.4L engine - available as 5AT or 6MT. Our cars are called the "Accord Euro" because we got the V6 Accord, and the smaller European accord so they needed a way to distinguish them. Accord = JDM import - Has either a 119kW 2.0L or 148kW 2.4L engine (Type S). Just called the Accord because our "Accord V6" was called the Inspire over there. Accord Euro R = JDM import - Uses a 162kW high performance 2.0L engine. Effectively the Accord Type R from the mid 00's
@MrNiGhtBlAd3
@MrNiGhtBlAd3 Жыл бұрын
Great video dude! May I ask about the rim specs of both cars?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Жыл бұрын
Both 18's but he's got +35 offset and wider rims, mine are +48 and only 7.5" wide
@MrNiGhtBlAd3
@MrNiGhtBlAd3 Жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife how much wider? Thank you in advance! Both cars are sick!
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Жыл бұрын
@@MrNiGhtBlAd3 I don't know the exact specs but I'd say 8.5 wide
@leviwright134
@leviwright134 Жыл бұрын
@@MrNiGhtBlAd3 18x9 +32
@gabrielabdelfattah470
@gabrielabdelfattah470 2 жыл бұрын
In terms of sound, you can get the k24 sounding a lot better with the rbc manifold
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I imagine, I've got a skunk2 one on the way
@gabrielabdelfattah470
@gabrielabdelfattah470 2 жыл бұрын
I’m running the rbc, can’t wait for the video!!!
@cserougi
@cserougi 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielabdelfattah470 100% bro, I’ve got the RBC on my DC5 sounds so much better.
@Tantium
@Tantium 2 жыл бұрын
does RBC need porting ?
@cserougi
@cserougi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tantium nah you don’t need it, but it does increase performance
@harris4778
@harris4778 2 жыл бұрын
What has your fuel consumption (and the CL7R if known) been like please?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
I average about 9l/100km. I'd expect the cl7 to be similar
@mohammadhussain3505
@mohammadhussain3505 2 жыл бұрын
I get 7.6 /100 on my euro r cl7
@gama9865
@gama9865 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a diesel accord vs a petrol accord
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah my mate has bought one, he's just waiting to pick it up then I'll film a vid
@oystergram8582
@oystergram8582 Жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife is the video ready??
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Жыл бұрын
Yep! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/osmnaN2DyanDlnk.html
@adisabreham8638
@adisabreham8638 5 ай бұрын
To my understanding CL7 Euro R was 2002-2007 correct? Any differences between the model years? Can't find much online, not even the sales brochures.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 5 ай бұрын
2003-2008 yeah. There was a facelift in 2006
@adisabreham8638
@adisabreham8638 5 ай бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife Same styling changes that came with CL9? Hood, grills, and some interior bits?
@samhassall1926
@samhassall1926 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck it, I’ve watch this video like 10 Times! I’m Buying a CL7 this year ❤️
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Nice man! Good choice
@vtecturbo9396
@vtecturbo9396 2 жыл бұрын
For the knock sensor code you just need to change the sensor
@CL9k24a3
@CL9k24a3 2 жыл бұрын
yep
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 2 жыл бұрын
Or it's... knocking/misfiring, and you need to address that.
@vtecturbo9396
@vtecturbo9396 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Noticer. ya or that
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
It's not knocking, runs just like it did before, just has the light come on. Maybe a bad ground or bad sensor
@603syndicates9
@603syndicates9 2 жыл бұрын
You could do a red top k20 head on your k24 block you will get the best of to worlds
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, better and cheaper to mod the k24 head with cams, 45deg vtc, ported head, fd2r mani and oil pump, you'll get the same results
@jaguarxj3647
@jaguarxj3647 2 жыл бұрын
Does this ACCORD isn't Euro Sport in Australian market?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@DJDM87
@DJDM87 8 ай бұрын
Put a rbc on that k24 50 degree vtc gear and type s oil pump
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 8 ай бұрын
Yeah that'll make a difference
@sharky9008
@sharky9008 2 жыл бұрын
what road is that that you are testing the handling on
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Paekakariki hill road
@ameenpatel6742
@ameenpatel6742 2 жыл бұрын
What's the rims on the euro r ?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Te37 reps or something, not sure tho
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 2 жыл бұрын
As for the intake temp and knock, did you re-tune the engine after you had the cold-air intake installed? It could be having trouble with the added flow. As these engines measure the amount of air by intake temp (density) and flow (MAF). Your modification, compared to stock, has a lower temperature and less flow. So it misreads the amount of air going into it. The intake temperature could be one way it would indicate this error, since it doesn't expect the ducting to have changed and it could think the flow is within spec. You can start by reading out the Live data if it's misfiring, or excessively trimming fuel (Long Term/Short Term fuel trims).
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
That's true actually... didn't think of that. Will see if a retune fixes it
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife By less flow I mean, the diameter could be higher, and then the air speed is slower. The ECU based on MAF+ITT would think less air is entering, because it's calculating for a different diameter tube and inject the wrong amount of fuel (in this case, too much). It will then maybe spit out this code, i dont know what the scenario for the fault code is, i'd have to look. Usually though, any engine modification you do, requires a retune by a specialist, to remap it for this new intake/exhaust geometry. We are not in the carb days anymore, sadly :)
@vando1267
@vando1267 2 жыл бұрын
The SergeBo tune you have was developed to account for a CAI so a retune wouldn’t fix the IAT sensor issue. I would recommend cleaning the IAT or replacing that sensor altogether.
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 2 жыл бұрын
@@vando1267 replacing a sensor based on absolutely no live data analysis is what parts cannon mechanics do. Besides, these days the IAT is combined with the MAF, which is very expensive on a Honda. You verify it with WOT engine efficiency, or idle gr./sec usage if it's out of spec before you start throwing parts at it.... And not every CAI is the same, any change in diameter throws the ECU off.
@vando1267
@vando1267 2 жыл бұрын
@@The_Noticer. Good point. It would be wise to hook up a scan tool to confirm if the IAT temperature readings are off before replacing that part. However, given that the ECU was reflashed with an aftermarket tune that already accounts for a larger Intake, I would rule out the CAI being the culprit unless the CEL was reported on day 1 or the CAI developed a leak somewhere (but that shouldn’t throw an IAT CEL). Also, I’m not 100% certain if the Accord Euro overseas has a MAF, but the USDM TSX does not have one. Only has an IAT and MAP sensors on the intake side and an OE IAT is only ~$40 USD online.
@Stefanatzf
@Stefanatzf 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to get a euro R but in my country, all euro Rs are selling upwards of 65000usd…. FD2Rs are all at least 75000 usd 😢
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Goodness me that's just outrageous
@thatguyben3128
@thatguyben3128 2 жыл бұрын
*Bro, if you’re going to stay N/A invest in a RRC manifold and a J35 throttle body. It will make the K24 very responsive💯*
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah got a skunk2 manifold on the way
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@lexman8678 your humble opinion is respected but not understood. I think you miss that there is more to a car than just speed and power. A crown athlete is an absolute boat, and it's auto so you don't get the driving enjoyment side of things. Obviously we're all different and clearly your driving enjoyment comes from beating cars in rolling races, which I can agree is fun, but I get my enjoyment from driving a well built, well set up chassis with a high revving 4 banger and great steering with a manual gearbox. Each to their own.
@IOUaUsername
@IOUaUsername 2 жыл бұрын
A knock sensor is a $4 part and a 5 minute job. One plug and one bolt.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet as
@Al404DVP
@Al404DVP 2 жыл бұрын
U gotta put ur car on a dyno to verify the horsepower and torque numbers. I got a stock 6spd manual 04TSX in Canada here. I know you test drove that base CL9 Euro and u thought it was slow as f.....! The TSX has 13more horses and to me its pretty quick. The good thing about the K24 TSX is that it's a great daily driver, very comfortable and u don't have to floor it everytime. Reving up the K20 all the time is tiring.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'll get it on the Dyno at some point. Haven't driven a tsx but they seem to be quote different to our euros. Facelift ones with the bigger cam are definitely faster out of the box
@Al404DVP
@Al404DVP 2 жыл бұрын
By the way, you've done a great job with the mods on the car, looks really cool too. You've pushed the limits responsibly! 5.8secs to 100k is real quick. Turbo or supercharger can be problematic and lots of headaches. I'm a little older now and my mod days are done, but I still enjoy these videos.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@Al404DVP thanks man! Yeah it's pretty quick aye I've been surprised
@huzaifakhan612
@huzaifakhan612 2 жыл бұрын
What if we do modification to euro r will that be able to beat a modified cl9 type s
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah probably
@lobaman123
@lobaman123 2 жыл бұрын
I have a CL9 and an 8th gen Si. After some time I realized I have much more fun in my Si!! More power and torque is cool, but in these cars I only see the engine as a compliment to the nimble approach honda has made in their design for these cars overall(because the CL7 and 9 are just big, wide and heavy). Every component has something that is geared more towards quickness rather than speed, it adds up and I think it creates that feel you describe.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitly
@lucaking4041
@lucaking4041 2 жыл бұрын
Is the 165kw measurement accurate did you dyno it? ATW?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Nah 165kW crank and that's an estimate based on what other people have gained from the various mods I've done on dynos
@lucaking4041
@lucaking4041 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife I see I believe the block is capable of 220ish NA with boltons at the hub (not as accurate as wheels but more so than crank) this was on an 05 auto.
@Jon-ov5wt
@Jon-ov5wt 2 жыл бұрын
What are the P codes
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
I thought my friend sent me a screenshot when he scanned it at the track day but he didn't - will have to get it rescanned when I get a chance
@M_Pirke
@M_Pirke 2 жыл бұрын
Today is one year and about 12k ,kilometers with my CL9 i have updates...Springs,shocks,upgrade and brakes and i blast mine rear stop light.I must go on original :D but she is all fine.Yesterday i seat in my Mg Rover 75 2.5 v6 and im impressed how much cars is different type but good.Rover is perfect but i dont want to sell it and i found Accord think little with ...and i have a two large sedans and Golf 4 2.0b 4 motion because we are in gasoline crise Ithink to Honda goes in garage Rover have mot,Honda yesterday is done...I think of Porsche 964 carrera 2 tiptronik(work in progres) most beatifule Porsch mine is late 94 enterior like 993 but i like 964 because "Californication" and later i buy only coupe
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely
@jaxonstorm4942
@jaxonstorm4942 2 жыл бұрын
U should've got a cl7 that has same mods as ur type s and compare them cars that way..
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
No because the whole point was to compare a type s and a euro r with the same power. To get a type s to the same power it needs mods, the euro r doesn't.
@steriousarious2394
@steriousarious2394 2 жыл бұрын
what kind of mags does the euro r have?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Can't remember sorry - some like TE37 reps or something
@steriousarious2394
@steriousarious2394 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife sweet shots brotha
@workbayG
@workbayG 2 жыл бұрын
Put the eml codes you have here please so we can help .
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Don't have a scanner but I'll take it into work at some point and get it scanned. Part of the issue is that they come and go. It's not on all the time. Usually comes on after a pull when the engine has warmed up, but is never on when it's cold.
@kos5120
@kos5120 2 жыл бұрын
Could be a good time for a Dyno tune... Get that k24 dialled in.
@vando1267
@vando1267 2 жыл бұрын
Dyno tune in his Accord is going to require an ECU from an 07-08 model year + the CAN adapter. It’s quite expensive to go down that route unfortunately, but would be great content for the channel.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily, the stock ECU is still tuneable, that's how people are able to do reflashes on it. I'll be getting it on a dyno at some point but I'd have to go to Auckland to do it so not till covid blows over
@kos5120
@kos5120 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife hit me up when you are up here. I have a fd2r that you can review👍
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@kos5120 Could be keen - wanna hit me up on insta so I can contact you when I'm up there? @kiwicarlife.yt
@vando1267
@vando1267 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife for the USDM TSX, the 04-06 ECUs can only be reflashed as it’s not supported by Hondata Flashpro and Ktuner. The 07-08 ECU is different and can be used to load custom tunes. Not sure if the ECUs in your region were set up any differently than the US market.
@steveahsin2154
@steveahsin2154 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate i have a accord euro 2005 5spd semi auto the knock off sensor or air intake temp sensor plug pin cud be loose common dam thing plugs become loose prob from heat so they become issues the 1 that bugged me was rhe car run like shit and no cel showing. howevr i diagnosed the issue as broken coolant temp sensor wire or loose plug again you will know if that happens loss POWER no VteC .. Luckily the Handy onboard plug in DIagnostic scan tool connnected to my phone reading data logs and freeze frames ..invest in 1 super handy for basic cel codes etc. I have never put my car into a workshop ever for any reason all home knowledge ... Car now has 260+ks and does rolling 2step powerskids "') .... it would be awesome if we did a comparison with mine i always watch ur videos then go do some tuning to mine apexi vafc stock ecu ?😁 tons of man hours the power output is unknown as yet however it does not hesistate to climb 200+kph i havent met my match yet . IM in the process to gt it tuned but i have no clue as to where Kflash? some one recommended st hitec but i said no thanks due to past issues.. keep it mate Cars getting qwicker Honda k24cl9r 🤓
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, yeah we figured out my knock sensor has died, I'll just get a new one. IAT's aren't actually causing the engine light but it is throwing a code. And yeah I'd be keen to film a video - modified auto vs modified sedan maybe? Hit me up on insta @kiwicarlife.yt if you're keen
@Tris268
@Tris268 2 жыл бұрын
should i get a 03 euro r cl7 in 2022?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you should
@Tris268
@Tris268 2 жыл бұрын
isnt the year kind of old compared to the 05+ or that doesn’t matter too much?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tris268 they're all basically the same 03-08
@BAJATWIN
@BAJATWIN 2 жыл бұрын
Engine light means time to Part it out and sell me the gear box 😂
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Haha well unfortunately for you I got it fixed. Car will be for sale tho soon so you could always buy the whole car!
@ferio98jdm
@ferio98jdm 2 жыл бұрын
260NM in Your CL9 with this intake? No way ;) Can't be true.
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
It's an estimate - intakes don't do much anyway
@ae86conor
@ae86conor 2 жыл бұрын
I think the wheel and tyre size on the Euro R are having a negative effect on steering feel....same problem with my Euro R so went back to stock wheels
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah must be aye - I don't remember the stock one having steering as bad as this
@ethanmounter1940
@ethanmounter1940 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife the fitment looks really good on the euro r, I assume to get that fitment the wheel setup is staggered and the tyres are wider on the rear compared to the front causing understeer
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@ethanmounter1940 possibly? I didn't look too closely but I have a feeling its 225/40R18 all round
@archieruks51
@archieruks51 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t beat a k20a, nothing compares to that sound
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
It's incredible aye
@christopherjohnston6343
@christopherjohnston6343 2 жыл бұрын
K20 head on K24 bottom? Best of both worlds
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah defo
@Tantium
@Tantium 2 жыл бұрын
where does one just get a k20 head though ?
@christopherjohnston6343
@christopherjohnston6343 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tantium NZ context will be a little different. Probably just need good timing and pinch one off a wrecked Integra or Euro R?
@HBenpitsu1976
@HBenpitsu1976 2 жыл бұрын
EURO S vs EURO R
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeeez
@user-dt1ml6cw2s
@user-dt1ml6cw2s 2 жыл бұрын
Еврор лучше тем что он сделан для драйва,там на стенках цилиндров спецпокрытие,а на к24нет ,так что еврор будет ездить и ездить перенося большие нагрузки в отличие от к24
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Я не понимаю, о чем вы. K24 имеет гораздо больший крутящий момент и лучше переносит более тяжелые нагрузки. Да, Euro R веселее, но K24 объективно лучше, если вы его измените.
@user-dt1ml6cw2s
@user-dt1ml6cw2s 2 жыл бұрын
Спецпокрытие!!!тем и лучше, новые топоры к20,и не нужно выеживатся что вы не понимаете о чём я,досвидания
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
досвидания
@quakeRTX
@quakeRTX 2 жыл бұрын
check engine checked✔
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
HAHAH it's definitely still there!
@garagetwentynine4023
@garagetwentynine4023 2 жыл бұрын
Just sold my euro r :(
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Sad times... on to bigger and better things no doubt!
@NowIknowCh
@NowIknowCh 2 жыл бұрын
What you getting next?
@vossti
@vossti 10 ай бұрын
Really..what's stopping Honda from bringing back atleast an iteration of this euroR..??...i mean toyota did it with the supra....
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 10 ай бұрын
They should aye
@vossti
@vossti 10 ай бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife 100%
@hondamanvtec2894
@hondamanvtec2894 2 жыл бұрын
That euro R aint stock Its been lowered
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the engine is basically stock
@gyallis4life617
@gyallis4life617 Жыл бұрын
Euro r for the win all day
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife Жыл бұрын
Fair enough
@gyallis4life617
@gyallis4life617 Жыл бұрын
Sorry mate I just feel like a racing driver behind the wheel. I didn't get same adrenaline in my type s. Also, In the carribean we mount the k24 bottom end to the k20a top which provides additional torque while maintaining the k20a redline ( Frankenstein k series 😀)
@nothing9271
@nothing9271 2 жыл бұрын
Please consider your International viewers and at least place the horsepower numbers on the screen
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah sorry I keep forgetting
@nothing9271
@nothing9271 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife Thank You For the concern
@glencrean4568
@glencrean4568 2 жыл бұрын
Not really a fair comparison, find a euro r with headers etc and see what it’s like then
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? The whole point was that it was stock vs modified because from factory the euro s is way slower
@glencrean4568
@glencrean4568 2 жыл бұрын
@@KiwiCarLife I realise that, would you do a comparison against a modified euro r?
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@glencrean4568 yeah probably if I could find someone with one
@tomwall7966
@tomwall7966 2 жыл бұрын
Nuthing would touch euro r when modded stick supercharger on u see 320bhp no problem same engine as integra type r old school era honda rule from first civic type r in 2002 with 2.0 type r engine master piece
@KiwiCarLife
@KiwiCarLife 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomwall7966 Yes, but do identical mods to the k24 and it'll rape the euro r. No replacement for displacement
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