Stone Age Wood Working Tools Built, Tested and Explained

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HuntPrimitive

HuntPrimitive

4 жыл бұрын

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This video is the precursor to the Stone age bow building video. Ryan Gill of HuntPrimitive builds, tests, demonstrates and explains various primitive and stone age wood working tools. The good, the bad, and the impractical.
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@IslandHermit
@IslandHermit 3 жыл бұрын
A couple of points. While you can use an adze to split wood or chop a limb that's not its intended purpose. An adze is used to create a smooth wood surface and that's exactly what your bone adze did with just a couple of swings. It was only when you tried to dig into the wood with it that it quickly dulled and became useless. Splitting wedges were typically made of wood: you'd start the split with a stone or bone implement and then hammer in wooden wedges to advance and widen the split. The advantages of wooden wedges are that they are easy to make, use plentiful wood rather than more precious bone or flint, and they can be made to any size, allowing you to split quite large logs.
@mr.chaosvicious5968
@mr.chaosvicious5968 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I've heard of old timers using hardwood (something like oak,hickory or locust) wedges to help them split logs before. When iron wasn't very readily available to them and was somewhat scarce (ex. they were settling into new places). And that if you bevel the edge right,then you can get quite a bit of use out of them before they break and you need/have to make some new ones.
@garethbaus5471
@garethbaus5471 Жыл бұрын
Even people who have steel tools use wooden or plastic wedges to split wood.
@theexchipmunk
@theexchipmunk 9 ай бұрын
Another point is that his tool geometry seems off. When he shows his adze is clearly got a thinner edge than the one we get to see earlier in the video.
@SaraP.-mi8gg
@SaraP.-mi8gg 4 ай бұрын
Ditto 👍
@lsetzer2668
@lsetzer2668 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool. I made an arrow today using the feathers and pine pitch on your website and I must say you make arrow making look easy.
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
thanks very much. Yeah I have heard that before, but I do also have a ton of practice
@Thicbladi
@Thicbladi 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah honestly it’s so much harder to build the arrow than the bow
@queefnugget1289
@queefnugget1289 4 жыл бұрын
U bought feathers and pitch?? That shits freeee nigga
@Thicbladi
@Thicbladi 4 жыл бұрын
Queef Nugget not everywhere most people don’t have trees near them cuz they live in a city also it’s hard to find good feathers
@diamondryan599
@diamondryan599 3 жыл бұрын
@@queefnugget1289 please don’t say that word
@falkharvard8722
@falkharvard8722 4 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed at how patient our ancestors must have been. Loving your videos as I develop bushcrafting skills backwards through time.
@13lilsykos
@13lilsykos 3 жыл бұрын
Not just our ancestors from thousands of years ago but even 50 years ago, 30 years ago. Today, everyone (myself included) gets impatient if a KZfaq video or website doesn't load almost instantly. Gods forbid the modem needs rebooting or something. When it happens, I try to remind myself that it's amazing that technology can even do what it does, at all. I mean, I can talk to my buddy in Finland (I'm from South Carolina, USA) like he's sitting right in front of me, not across the fecking planet! I can't imagine what future generations will have that will make our technology seem like 56k modems. I'm 39 years old and the very first computer I bought with my own money, as an adult, had 20 gigs and it blew me away that a computer could have THAT much space. Now my phone has more, by far and most of the games I play are bigger. 😂
@F0Led
@F0Led 2 жыл бұрын
They didnt have a choice
@ianhale4466
@ianhale4466 Жыл бұрын
I've found with tree limbs, like for arrows, spears and small tool handles, getting a piece of flint the size of a cantaloupe and knapping a decent edge and then taking pressure flakes off resembling a stone hacksaw, does a brilliant job and you can notch the other side and make a decent cordage belt loop so it dangles at your side as you walk
@fischerkrull7516
@fischerkrull7516 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always! A little tip I picked up for breaking of antler tines or pieces of bone. Instead of carving a groove and breaking it off, you can heat up the area where you want it to break between two hot coals, then once it’s been heated up you can break it with percussion
@butterflygroundhog
@butterflygroundhog 4 жыл бұрын
One great tool that I consider essential in my primitive wood working is pottery shards; they do wonder as abrasive materials and if you dedicate a portion of your clay to building those sanding pads, you can really smooth down any wooden surfaces down to a wooden plank finish. It might take you hours, but you'll get there eventually if all you're after is beauty over function.
@csluau5913
@csluau5913 Жыл бұрын
Hey just to give you a tip... I used to do woodworking years ago and you will want something that is larger or more bulbous on the end and just pick a sweet spot to hit it. It carries more weight and it’s easier to use. A piece of hardwood with a large or medium sized knot Is the best mallet you can use. People used them all the way down into the early 1800s. Sometimes later. They absorb a lot more of the shock and it is distributed evenly through the wood and the chisel. The adze you made has an angle that is too shallow...it needs to be steeper. Also, the flint was too thin and small it needs to be thicker in the middle. Bone is too brittle unless you are working with softer greenwood. Denser fore tempered stones and fire hardened antler are good for woodworking tools. Quality quartzite is really good. Bipolar percussion used to make a biface chopper that can be hafted is good. I am making a broad chisel out of a palmate fallow deer antler, then fire hardening it.
@cameronpain1422
@cameronpain1422 4 жыл бұрын
Holy Hell! I can’t wait for the Stone Age bow build! One guy who I’ve noticed is very skilled at peck and grind, is John Plant from the primitive technology channel. He made a great Celt and adze with those techniques. He also made a Stone Age bow But it was out of green wood and probably meant more for survival. Love this stuff 👍
@13lilsykos
@13lilsykos 3 жыл бұрын
I love Primitive Technology! (both the and actual primitive technology... 😁)
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
BRAND NEW! Stone Age Bow build and Hunt video is out. You can find it here! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r9R7Z81zttTHZac.html Just another note about this video. It's the highlights and cliff's notes on the project. I have tried many different bones and style. Green bone, seasoned bone, old antler, fresh antler, the list goes on and on. Making the tools is only half the battle, they need to be able to survive serious amounts of work, not just work ok for a little while. The test of time is when these tools compound tools typically fail... and my favorite most influential line of the film is, and what I hope your takeaway on the video is.. "We as humans like to try to over-sophisticate things when the reality is, the simplest answer is often times the best."
@thatsmallrockshop
@thatsmallrockshop 4 жыл бұрын
I do some crazy peck and grind hammer stone work ryan. You should see some of it and my bow and arrow work also. One was also done with only stone tools not even a file was used
@logankuhlman4166
@logankuhlman4166 4 жыл бұрын
I think the adz would work better after you split the log and use the adz to ruff shape the bow
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
@@logankuhlman4166 It didn't help much on the bow either. I do however show some really simple and effective techniques to thinning the limbs down in that up coming video. Much faster than expected.
@ethanstang9941
@ethanstang9941 4 жыл бұрын
What if you made a war club.
@canoecarver1994
@canoecarver1994 4 жыл бұрын
Great video showing experimentation to see what works, what doesn’t, or even what may need to be revisited with fresh eyes. When splitting wood, wooden wedges actually work extremely well! I recently acquired some large queen conch and horse conchs to try doing some green woodcarving, and eventually a canoe once I get the hang of making and using the tools.
@paulmarshall4468
@paulmarshall4468 4 жыл бұрын
Good point about the wedges. I split bow staves with them. Even if I am felling trees with a chainsaw for pay (where time is money) and I forget to take the right wedge, I will cut one from say Ash and it will work very well. It is a technology that can still hold its own.
@KrawllUnchained
@KrawllUnchained 4 жыл бұрын
27:04 You didn't need the stone because you had the bison horn and the deer antler but, you speak as if the horn and the antler are easier to come by than the stone. For me, it would be much much much easier to spend hours peck and grinding a stone to shape than anything else because i don't have access to a bison horn or deer antler. Sure i could get lucky and find an old deer antler just by walking in the woods but if not, then i'd have to hunt and kill one. Hunting a deer in the stone age would have been a lot more work than peck and grinding a stone.
@RobbyGAMEZ
@RobbyGAMEZ 3 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that large animals in very large herds were way more common back then. Sheds and horns would have been much easier to find, especially for people who lived by following these herds.
@lawrencelimburger9160
@lawrencelimburger9160 2 жыл бұрын
Our ancestors ate the creatures that grew the horns and bones, and made use of every bit they could afterwards
@joker9494949494
@joker9494949494 3 ай бұрын
also antler and bone was a common resource just by hunting constantly for survival. Already probably have access to it.
@thedude1292
@thedude1292 4 жыл бұрын
Purist Woodworker: i don't like power tools, real men only use traditional hand tools Stone age Woodworker: i bet you peasants use steel.
@gabeerspamer3979
@gabeerspamer3979 Жыл бұрын
Well using steel or metal doesn’t indicate poverty. At one point in time people made bronze and eventually forged iron which both are able to keep a sharp edge without losing durability. I guess if you think about it stone celts are ideally stronger than flint axes, however metal would still be better.
@gabeerspamer3979
@gabeerspamer3979 Жыл бұрын
So to make it short and sweet, traditional tools made from steel, bronze, or iron are going to be stronger and overall better than stone.
@gabeerspamer3979
@gabeerspamer3979 Жыл бұрын
As a side note maybe you should do research before making a historical joke?
@optifi1093
@optifi1093 Жыл бұрын
@@gabeerspamer3979 dawg it’s really not that deep, he made a simply joke no need to get offended
@kevinstevens5519
@kevinstevens5519 Жыл бұрын
@@gabeerspamer3979 it takes intelligence to understand humor. Take as long as you need lil buddy.
@franotoole2702
@franotoole2702 4 жыл бұрын
Oh forgot to say, when your splitting the wood put it on a hard surface, if its on soft ground the ground will absorb most of the energy. If its on a hard surface like a stone, then the wood your splitting will take all the energy. Used to split logs with my grandfather years ago, made wooden wedges and hardend them quickly over the forge fire.
@OnTheRiver66
@OnTheRiver66 4 жыл бұрын
Felix Immler who has a ton of videos on uses of the Swiss Army Knife does some impressive splitting using hardwood wedges he makes on the spot. He makes a small start at the end of the wood with his pocket knife which could be done with a sharp stone, then uses the wood wedge and a sturdy baton to split the piece. Also done on a surface such as a stump, log, or rock just as Fran O’ Toole suggested.
@smurphy308
@smurphy308 3 жыл бұрын
This is big brain
@Ray-he3oh
@Ray-he3oh 4 жыл бұрын
The reason for the harstone adze is because it rarely breaks within the haft like your flint adze blade. It also retains a very fair edge and does not chip or flake (much stronger than antler or bone) if it does dull it is easy to regrind a new edge. Try a medium grain basalt (less glassy and flakey) adze and trust me you'll never want to mess around with deer antler again. I actually make them if you would like to try one.
@briani7858
@briani7858 4 жыл бұрын
This stuff is so cool. ive been watching your videos for some time now. Ive always been interested in stone age tech but never really had the time to try anything out myself. I work too much so i guess ill live vicariously through you. keep up the awesome research mr. Gill
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very Much Brian. Much appreciated
@jasonm7404
@jasonm7404 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! I didn’t want it to end, lol! Very educational and new perspective on tools! A lot of just plan common sense on tools as to that the tools were not fancy! They made plan simple tools, quick and easy to use and that just plan out worked, and got the job done!
@OnTheRiver66
@OnTheRiver66 4 жыл бұрын
Years ago I read in an article that 90 degree edges on stone work well for scraping bone and wood especially when the bone or wood is wet.
@pambasileuspaperhat9526
@pambasileuspaperhat9526 4 жыл бұрын
Really great video, I particularly like the chill format, makes it much easier to absorb the info. I think the simplest explanation for having a variety of tools for doing the same job would be a combination of material availability, skill set and plain old personal preference, aka habit. I know my husband and I have different favorite knives in the kitchen, and the one we use might change depending on how recently the dishes got done!
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
yes, for sure. Thank you very much
@exdy-eb3dv
@exdy-eb3dv 4 жыл бұрын
I think we all are appreciating your effort! And yours results
@QuantumMechanic_88
@QuantumMechanic_88 3 ай бұрын
Nicely demonstrated and a necessary tutorial. Respect sent from Earth Clans New Mexico.
@radagast6682
@radagast6682 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for all of the good information.
@carlwagner4565
@carlwagner4565 2 ай бұрын
Wow never thought id see charlie brown doing bushcraft now i feel old thank you❤🎉
@GoannaEarthskills
@GoannaEarthskills 4 жыл бұрын
Ive made bone adzes before and what you need is a thicker bone, elk and cow cannon bones work very well. Try to get them as green as possible, the less brittle and dried out the better. When splitting out wood with bone wedges on green wood i was taught to cut notches and split out section so you can control the splits. Might want to try hafting the adze on the top of the shelf, I find that creates a little less snapping pressure. Interesting video, I have found peck and grind tools are very good because of the durability they provide and the cleaner cuts you get opposed to flaked tools, they also take away having to carry a full toolkit as they can perform lots of woodworking tasks, splitting, chopping etc. They work very well in conjunction with a set of bone wedges and some sharp flake blades which can be battoned down the stave to remove large slivers of wood as well. Good one Ryan!
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
thanks very much. I definitely won't be wasting more time on bone. I have lots of bone testing even outside this video. It was a Bison femur bone so it doesn't get much more robust. It wasn't terribly old either, but I did make one from green femur that was still even a bit stinky and it too shattered. but even with green bone is poses the problem that if it becomes brittle with age, then all the work done is for not as soon as the tool ages.
@Bamapride1000
@Bamapride1000 6 ай бұрын
Speaking with some indigenous peoples when I was a teen they used water a lot of times when grinding in my area of the southeast. This was learned from the sometimes often rains we get down here. There’s a lotta gravesites on the side of the mountain where I spent a lot of my youth and still a little bit today.
@jamieelder7438
@jamieelder7438 4 жыл бұрын
Brooooo! I want to build a stone age bow too. I can't wait until your video comes out so I can "build along!"
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, glad to hear it. The bow is actually finished, I just gotta pull a few late nights and get it edited out
@fadeintoyou5341
@fadeintoyou5341 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the bow series!!
@alainderoulette
@alainderoulette 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for understanding how primitive tool works. Very educational video !
@unicorntrds1571
@unicorntrds1571 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. So interesting and informative. Can’t wait for the next one
@WannabeBushcrafter
@WannabeBushcrafter 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I also prefer simple non-compound tools for wilderness survival wood working. I use improvised Cobblestone hand axes for shopping, quartz flakes for fine woodworking/sawing, and tapered wooden billets for splitting. However, I do think there are 2 aspects of primitive compound woodworking tools that are worth considering. 1. Larger polished stone celt and adze heads were much more common than smaller ones during the Neolithic, with many artifacts having hafting grooves that had been pecked in. So perhaps the larger stone heads were less likely to break than your small stone adze head. 2. It is entirely possible that people were making these compound tools to harvest wood for reasons that are not directly related to survival. The late neolithic period had many complex agricultural societies. So one would find mega structures using logs with 10inch or greater diameters like the various Wood Henge sites all over Europe. These sites(and all the scarce resources and time that had to be allocated) were built not for survival but for social prestige or political power or religious reasons.
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
yes for sure. The larger hafted blades certainly existed and ere used when mechanical advantage was a must. But mostly this is showing on small scale projects like bow building and such where complexity isn't necessary. thanks very much for your well thought out response
@PrimitiveTim
@PrimitiveTim 4 жыл бұрын
Im pretty excited about this series!
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
It's going to get pretty cool with the bow video I think. I worked that wood very easily from what I learned in this video
@PrimitiveTim
@PrimitiveTim 4 жыл бұрын
@@huntprimitive9918 I'm also interested to see how you do things different since you did the snake wood bow.
@oldplucker1
@oldplucker1 Жыл бұрын
Great, these are questions we all need answers to. 👍
@jennysvlog5595
@jennysvlog5595 4 жыл бұрын
Love ur video's, very interesting ,I keep watching
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
thank you very much
@anthonyfeatherstone7696
@anthonyfeatherstone7696 4 жыл бұрын
Love the videos my friend!
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
thank you very much!
@patrunkel5821
@patrunkel5821 4 жыл бұрын
Use the right tool for the job, its that easy , dont use a fleshing tool as a adz or axe , keep up the great videos
@macbailes9953
@macbailes9953 4 ай бұрын
Wooden wedges work quite well after starting a split with flint or antler. Here in the WV mountains we call wooden wedges "gluts."😊
@johnblack9952
@johnblack9952 2 жыл бұрын
The hardest part of deer antler are the tips and the base of the horn about an inch to an inch and a half above the flared out part
@mr.chaosvicious5968
@mr.chaosvicious5968 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have to agree with you on that. Because they are made from solid material,versus the middle of the antler. Which would look more spongy or like a honeycomb if you cut a section of it out.
@ryanbeard1119
@ryanbeard1119 Жыл бұрын
Awesome, cannot wait to see some stone age iron smelting!!!
@franotoole2702
@franotoole2702 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Simplicity at its finest. We tend to forget and take for granted the knowledge and skills we have today. Our brains have thousands of years of developement to get to the stage they are at now. Back in the stone age they were just starting to develope, to understand and solves problems. They didnt know what an axe was, or what a hoe was like. They just needed a task to be done and used what materials they had at hand. Its almost impossible for us to percieve how they did things or understood things because of how developed were are now. What we would consider a long time to make a tool or a waste of time even, they would have just gotten on with making it as its what was needed to be done. Time probably never even entered the equation. This brings back memories of my childhood making walking sticks and arrows by hand with shards of quartz as scrapers. Even made a slate axe for a stoneage school project. Didnt work so well as you can imagine, but it was fun to make. Even now as a knifemaker i find myself thingking of oldschool or primitive ideas or ways of doing things, but with modern tools and materials. Like making your own tools either beczuse you can afford to buy them or they just dont exist.
@gamdanyunizar7849
@gamdanyunizar7849 2 жыл бұрын
I just finished playing Ancestors Humankind Odyssey and now I'm here digging these tools like Homo Ergaster. Highly recommended game to play.
@michami135
@michami135 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen the bone adze used to flesh a stretched hide. Saw it on an old video about how American Indians tanned hides. Works well for that as you need a lighter touch than you would working wood.
@osbaldohernandez9174
@osbaldohernandez9174 4 жыл бұрын
The adze was usually made with stone
@michaelwagner4451
@michaelwagner4451 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, i am from Germany and i have also build an handaxe with a boneblade. But i think this handaxe is not for cuting trees off. I think it is a better use to cut meat off from bones or use it for defense. On my handaxe, the rearside is a hook to throw an atlatl speer. Your Video is all right and i like to see the next. Please excuse my english for mistakes. Greatings from Germany
@larrybesel9423
@larrybesel9423 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Simple seems to always be the best approach and you have proved that with this video. I have subscribed, turned on notices and look forward to learning so much more!
@gozer87
@gozer87 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't know how those beautiful polished tools I saw in the museums were made, now I do.
@Eeshan_the_guitarist
@Eeshan_the_guitarist 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice pal
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
thanks much
@mdjey2
@mdjey2 3 жыл бұрын
This is actually useful information. When I think of Stone age I kind of forget that it is not just stones that where used.
@greggtilghman6349
@greggtilghman6349 3 жыл бұрын
The very first video I ran across with HuntPrimitive was the hickory bow, recognized the cutting of it in the clip inserted in this video showing the stone hand axe
@williamwhite9481
@williamwhite9481 4 жыл бұрын
With the stone Adze I think you were hitting at too much of an angle, that's why it broke. It will be a little slower but you need to hit closer to 90 degrees
@mikker32
@mikker32 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you have to smasch the treefiber instead of cutting so to speak
@path1024
@path1024 3 жыл бұрын
An adze isn't for chopping. It's the horizontal version of a broad axe. It's supposed to be for removing material by striking at less than 45 degrees. Like standing on a beam and swinging between your legs to shave off wood or on a log to make a dugout canoe.
@williamwhite9481
@williamwhite9481 3 жыл бұрын
@@path1024 yes, but with stone tools thats not how it works, thats why it broke. You can still remove material quickly just by hitting at a 90 degree angle
@path1024
@path1024 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamwhite9481 In that case I'm not sure why you would want an adze rather than an axe.
@williamwhite9481
@williamwhite9481 3 жыл бұрын
@@path1024 because the way you hold it, it would just be easier to use. You'd have to use a stone axe at the same angle. Its stone, you have to use it differently than steel
@asesinodezombis2077
@asesinodezombis2077 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning from Vietnam!!!! Fantastic work ........Otzi would be jelous.
@nemo1987b
@nemo1987b 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for that video.!
@entrepreneursfinest
@entrepreneursfinest 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ryan, absolutely great video on a subject that needed addressing on multiple levels. Having made and used and worked with a lot of this material myself I've found the same exact results. Although a lot of people watching this may not know how brave you have to be to face off so to speak against "traditional" archaeological ideas, my hat is off to you! Would love to discuss some thoughts and ideas that I have that you've possibly encountered yourself someday and maybe you could also answer a few things that have vexed me. Keep up this work!
@paulmarshall4468
@paulmarshall4468 4 жыл бұрын
This is a great resource for practical application -how the modern amateur can make tools that will get the job done without letting him down. Thank you. I am going to take the antler chisels away from this. I do suspect though that our ancestors did master some more complex technologies in bow building. I am thinking of the peck and grind axes that are found in my own country (UK) which have travelled hundreds of miles from the factory sites where they were made, sometimes right into areas where flints are picked up off the fields. I think they must have been better technology in some way. There is, I think, a reasonable argument to say that these may have been like the hand made axes and hunting knives most of us have at least one example of somewhere in our houses -luxury goods that do work better than cheap products and do last longer but which may not represent best value to their owners for their resource cost. I would like to see some comparative tests. But then again how much pecking and polishing can a man do when he could be hunting?
@timeorspace
@timeorspace 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing what you have learned, I'm enjoying the archeology you are doing. Search And Rescue is making a reluctant prepper/nomad out of me. I don't imagine a stone age nomad family maintained a quartered, seasoned cord of fire wood, but kindling seems essential. This week I've been seeking a pack tool(s) for processing kindling, and a small machete is a strong candidate, but still lacks appeal to carry for emergency use.... Maybe the antler chisel is the more authentic answer for my "EDC" kindling wood splitter?
@calebreutener870
@calebreutener870 2 жыл бұрын
i use a piece of broken bandsaw blade as a scraper. works really well
@sethhofstetter8161
@sethhofstetter8161 2 жыл бұрын
I am really impressed with how the stone knives saw through bone.
@TheBottegaChannel
@TheBottegaChannel 7 ай бұрын
Fun story from when I went to a museum 6 years ago. I asked one of the people in the prehistoric area " ever heard of the game Rock, paper, scizzors?". They said " Yeah. Why?" I then said " They got it wrong. Paper gets beat by rock and scizzors if we go by stone age rules. I'll show ya.". I then produced my ground basalt Adze/ celt from on my pendant, took a sticky note, and in one clean swipe made a cut just like if I had used a pocket knife. The guy litterally was dumbfounded. 😂 Anyway, the twist of the yarn is this: different tools and materials yeild different results when applied to different tasks. You cant use just any bone lieing around for a sturdy chopping tool, it needs to be properly cleaned and free of weathering for it to be viable. Likewise, depending on the grind angle of the edge on your adze, it might out perform a flaked edge hand over fist.
@Hobo420
@Hobo420 2 жыл бұрын
that antler tool would be better suited to digging tubers and roots
@edwardshaw4549
@edwardshaw4549 4 жыл бұрын
Once the split is open, wooden wedges work fantastically to keep it going. Good hardwood ones just get harder as they're used. Got some I've used for ages and often pick them over metal ones because they weigh so much less if I have to go a way to where I'm working in the wood.
@angloausie8772
@angloausie8772 4 жыл бұрын
Good on ya mate, nice to see someone resurrect humanity's first stage of technology
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
thanks very much
@AdisiTaliWaya
@AdisiTaliWaya Жыл бұрын
When using stone, bone and antler tools such as these my tribes would build a small fire around the base of the tree that you want to cut down then the tools will not break as easily because your chipping away soft charred wood and not harder green wood. The smoke also cures the upper parts of the tree.
@robertgehrig1631
@robertgehrig1631 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think the composite antler was made to be a wood working tool as a plain antler chisel does just as well or better. I think the composite antler chisel would be well used for digging to pull up tubers and cut reeds. May look to some of your other videos to see if you have gone over the possible uses of composite tools.
@macbailes3635
@macbailes3635 2 жыл бұрын
Once the split is started when splitting green wood logs I use what we in WV call a glut which is a wedge shaped piece of wood, usually dry dogwood, to continue the split. Once a split is started like with your antler chisel, it can be continued with nothing more than a glut or two and a striking stick or rock.
@TheBogggg
@TheBogggg 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT tool for working / fleshing a hide
@stevenboese1480
@stevenboese1480 8 ай бұрын
Adze were most likely used to clear roots of the stumps when clearing an area to build a root cellar Adze looks like our modern hoe, the smaller handle adze were most likely also used to primarily chop the twigs off the main branches or saplings that were cut down using the stone hand ax.
@MonkeyDGarate
@MonkeyDGarate 3 жыл бұрын
Igneus stone tools are best for woodworking. Not only is that why it was the preferred material for woodworking in the archaeological record but in terms of the applied physics that the tool offers is more advantageous in the amount of expended energy and resources needed to make most of the necessary wooden biproducts.
@carlosmacmartin4205
@carlosmacmartin4205 3 жыл бұрын
Nice t-shirt. Reminds me of my maternal ancestors, Ancestral Puebloans. :)
@a.i.a3949
@a.i.a3949 4 жыл бұрын
The simplist awnser is the easiest anwser. Good bit of Ocams razor there.
@landgabriel
@landgabriel Жыл бұрын
Peck and grind seems also like the perfect way to make sling stones.
@iangilroy592
@iangilroy592 3 жыл бұрын
I'm probably wrong but, I don't think the Adze was used as a woodworking tool until the bronze age? The ones that I have seen on TV have exclusively been used as small Mattocks, for digging and planting. Some archaeologist, said oh thats an Adze and its stuck?
@mr.chaosvicious5968
@mr.chaosvicious5968 2 жыл бұрын
I'd say that adzes MAY have also been used as a woodworking tool for hollowing out canoes,even if they were stone. Because as I understand it they would build a small controlled fire inside of the log or they piled hot coals into it. So that the inside of it got scorched/charred and then they removed the scorched/charred bits to hollow the canoe out. Those said bits apparently being rather easy to remove,so an added could have been used and would not have had to endure a lot of stresses in that sort of process/situation.
@MedievalTrebuchet
@MedievalTrebuchet 4 жыл бұрын
Good stuff here. Occam's razor. Why peck and grind when easier stuff works. Excited to see the stone age bow build. Can't believe you haven't done that before? Maybe I'm thinking of Shawn Woods. I think he did a video a long time ago making a bow with only stone tools.
@karnovtalonhawk9708
@karnovtalonhawk9708 3 жыл бұрын
just a thing on the drop it after use idea, which i think makes sense for ease of travel but i also guess that these olden day peoples new their surroundings and they would probably leave them in a spot they new and probably marked along their routes to just go pick them up again and use when passing by that way again. lets face it there rocks not exactly going to waste away overnight
@captainflint89
@captainflint89 2 жыл бұрын
i believe lots of these tools are for use on charred wood
@CharlesHuse
@CharlesHuse 4 жыл бұрын
I think it is more than fair to say that you are researching and recreating the trial and error process of our distant ancestors. Likely included in the process is the unexpected bashing of a finger and the creation of new words and dance moves.
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
haha, exactly... often times those dance moves are the wild swinging and throwing of things that broke after hours of making... folks didn't really get to see any of my tantrums
@czed7515
@czed7515 3 жыл бұрын
You could probably use one of those horn coral fossils as a wedge to. I have seen all kinds of those around creeks
@adam-k
@adam-k 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the reason for peck and grind stones is that they are less prone to chip than flaked stone tools. You can shaft them and use the extra leverage.
@cretudavid8622
@cretudavid8622 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the Adze was used for shaping wooden statues or totems ? Edit : I ain't no profesional but I might have a good opinion:)
@hslugger195
@hslugger195 4 жыл бұрын
Drawz vibes I think it was for making canoes, I forget the channel but they made a canoe from scratch and used an adze to hollow it out.
@robertschiek8120
@robertschiek8120 4 жыл бұрын
Harold Black if I remember correct it’s more for hollowing and shaping than chopping. Usually a boat/ship building tool.
@hslugger195
@hslugger195 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Schiek the video was on a hollow out canoe.
@FlyinThruTime
@FlyinThruTime 4 жыл бұрын
Usethat thing for gardening that sharpened stone on the curved stick would be perfect for making rows in soil
@williamjohnson476
@williamjohnson476 3 жыл бұрын
A steel adze at least is used for gauging out grooves or holes in wood rather than chopping down a tree or debarking wood. From what I have seen the adze stones are still fairly thick (like a slightly different shaped hand axe stone). The shape difference is that one side is flat, one side is rounded (most basic I have seen basically grinds 5 bevels in that side) and the edge is rounded (not in a straight line like some chert axes). I am just getting into the pre-metal tools, I have only used steel tools for woodworking so far.
@LukeA1223
@LukeA1223 2 жыл бұрын
Patience, young Padawan.
@nathandevine908
@nathandevine908 2 жыл бұрын
So you might try if you're making primitive tools you might try there's a sap in a tree and this sap can be is like a resin so you could turn it into things and you could use it possibly over your tool or you could use it to create a new tool possibly and when this sap dries it is as hard as rock so you might try it out and see if it works
@landgabriel
@landgabriel Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the physics of antler make it better as a chisel than an adz? Maybe striking a chisel transfers most of the shock to the butt of it, while when striking with an adz the initial shock is applied to the knife edge...
@ronnalscammahorn8002
@ronnalscammahorn8002 3 жыл бұрын
ever consider making a flint draw knife for shaving bark and wood ?
@Imsamhill
@Imsamhill 7 ай бұрын
For something like a hand axe and a stone axe don’t you think making the axe would be less stressful on the hands, having to hold a chunk of stone and get the impact directly into the hands instead of the impact being absorbed some through the wood?
@valentine_puppy
@valentine_puppy 3 жыл бұрын
Peck and Grind to a blunt edge, one thick enough to carve a slot. flake and grind smooth, flake-able material. Tree glue inside the Igneous rock you carved a groove into and insert the Flake-able material you flaked and smooth grinded. Let it set and then haft that thing with more black tree glue. Give plenty of time to dry. Attach it to a long handle, like a modern fire axe in length. Make several heads available to replace a broken one. Repeat.
@dgundeadforge17
@dgundeadforge17 4 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on glass knapping beer and wine bottle bottoms.
@huntprimitive9918
@huntprimitive9918 4 жыл бұрын
I might possibly in the future and put a little spin on it, but the mechanics are the same and several other folks have done that video already
@royshobe6642
@royshobe6642 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, do you think the antler chisel was good for splitting bones for marrow?
@GhostOfSnuffles
@GhostOfSnuffles 2 жыл бұрын
They probably used simple antler and bone chisels far more then we know but considering how quickly antler and bone breaks down it's no surprise there's none around from the stone age.
@dickeydanger6156
@dickeydanger6156 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if fire was used for removing wood and the adz used to clean up and do the fine work?
@Cys62
@Cys62 3 жыл бұрын
It always amazes me how ancient people create tools out of practically nothing.
@mr.chaosvicious5968
@mr.chaosvicious5968 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. They had to know how to do so though,as for them it was quite literally a "do or die" scenario.
@richardtoston964
@richardtoston964 4 жыл бұрын
I have square stone tools that have fore sides and only one is sharpened and usable. And some that have a drill on one corner. Not common but I find them
@Chris-yg5vh
@Chris-yg5vh 4 жыл бұрын
Fresh bone is less prone to chipping and fracturing.
@minionaire4756
@minionaire4756 2 жыл бұрын
For your first tool the dark not bone one i’ve seed someone use it for making rawhide
@RH-vl2wy
@RH-vl2wy 3 жыл бұрын
Here is a question... could stoneage tools withstand use on a treadle lath? Stone points to hold in the wood?
@KrispyRodent
@KrispyRodent 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of rock do you recomend to make tools that is: 1. shapeable (make the rock Sharp /flatter) 2. Sturdy to cut wood
@mr.chaosvicious5968
@mr.chaosvicious5968 2 жыл бұрын
Care to be specific about what type of tools exactly you are looking to try making? And if the wood that will be cut is either a dense hardwood or a less dense softwood type. Those two factors will potentially affect which type of stones you will need to make any tool. I am also assuming that you will be using the peck and grind method over knapping to make said stone tools as well.
@electronicfreak1111
@electronicfreak1111 4 жыл бұрын
What other ways is there for actually putting the handle and head together
@5isalivegaming72
@5isalivegaming72 Жыл бұрын
You can use a good wooden wedge to split wood also 🤣 just understanding the grain structure of wood, how "easily" it can be picked apart yet how strong and flexible the fibers are. Some kinda wise allegory there somewhere 🤔
@keithjackson7887
@keithjackson7887 2 жыл бұрын
Would a good purpose for that tool be to scrape hides with for making leather
@allendeanhuscusson459
@allendeanhuscusson459 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan I trust your judgment I don’t need to have you show me ,or prove to me I’m confident I can trust you
@FryedSaw
@FryedSaw 9 ай бұрын
Greetings
@pretechnology
@pretechnology 3 жыл бұрын
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