Who are the fools giving this a thumbs down? Rude! Great video. Keep it up!

I've been sewing for 52 years. This is my 4th machine and it does everything it promised. I've sewn heavy upholstery fabric and even welted seams on heavy duty outdoor fabric to sew my own trailer awning. It preformed better than any other machine I've ever owned with heavy fabrics. I never saw anything on the box when I purchased it claiming to be an industrial machine. It's held up well for the six years I've owned it and has never given me any trouble. I only paid $200 for it and am not ashamed to sit next to women at quilting retreats with machines five times the expense of mine. My Singer Heavy Duty is a beast but light enough to lug around. I don't think they are pretending to be anything other than what they are.

Glad I've read the comments.

For most of the average audience sewing at home, theyre decent machines and affordable. One thing that i really hate in the online sewing community is the snobbery, sneering at people on a budget and looking down on any one not buying a 500 dollar machine out the gate. Not saying that this video is the snobbery but its definitely a problem in forums and reddits

Eh, it's a 200 dollar sewing machine, what do you expect? It's heavier duty than other 200 dollar sewing machines, and if you have 200 dollars to spend on a machine, I doubt there's anything out there that is as well made and versatile. All of the machines on your recommended list are more expensive. I have used mine to sew canvas bimini tops with V-92 thread and heavy canvas, and to repair a Sunbrella boat cover. On both projects I was using thick thread and a thick needle and sewing through multiple layers of canvas, thick webbing, and velcro with no problem. I've also used it for numerous other canvas projects, as well as more delicate fabrics. Overall, given what I have already done with it, I'd say it was a bargain. Will I get a heavier duty machine if I get into bigger projects? Maybe, but in my opinion, this is an excellent first machine for someone learning to sew.

I have a Singer HD 4452…. With that said, I purchased it during the height of Covid shut downs when no machines were available, and if they were, they were through the roof! It was affordable and ’s been good to me. I’ve made thousands of “donated” mask, bags, backpacks and It’s still going. No regrets.

The machines you're recommending are EXPENSIVE. The Singer H.D. line on the other hand is relatively affordable. For me it is the basic machine but with the bonus features that it can sew fast, all weights and layers of materials, won't break the bank, portable, and there are videos that explain how to use it.

Sorry, no! When compared to the stuff in it's price range, the Singer Heavy duty is exactly that, Heavy Duty. i.e. You won't get a machine that stays with you longer and works harder IN THAT PRICE RANGE! Two very popular international brands have failed me repeatedly, while my Singer Heavy Duty 4432, just keeps going. I can sew silk today and 3 layers of canvas tomorrow, both without so much as a single lost stitch. No other EQUALLY PRICED machine, has been able to grant me the same level of utility. I've made garments, belts, wallets and more! Even 2cm sponge sandwiched between 4 layers of webbing and two layers of felt, is no challenge for this machine. Yes, you can't be half asleep when doing that, and you can't do it 12 hours a day, 365 days a week, but you can do it more often than not, and it will get the job done. Which brings me to my next point: There is a difference between Heavy Duty and Industrial. And no, the Singer Heavy Duty is NOT an INDUSTRIAL sewing machine, if you need an INDUSTRIAL sewing machine get a JUKI, or even better; Go rescue that old Singer K320 or K319 from your grandmother's attic. They are damn near indestructible, and capable of dealing with heavy upholstery jobs on a daily basis. In fact, the Singer K320 and K319 were considered industrial machines in their time and yes, many sail boats sported sails made using these machines, but I would not use them to make modern sails of Dacron. For that, your best bet is still Sailrite. The Singer Heavy Duty range fills a gap between home sewing and industrial sewing, at a price that still falls comfortably in the home sewing range. Don't expect it to be an industrial sewing machine and you'll have a far more reliable machine than anything else I've seen IN IT'S PRICE RANGE.

I love the Singer HD. It was really cheap, it honestly goes through multiple layers of denim and thick leather like butter if you get a good needle. It has all the basic functionality I need to do anything from making simple pillowcases to dresses to adjusting thick leather pants and jeans. Sure I would rather have a Juki industrial grade one, but that is out of budget.

Couple of points. I'm not sure you understand the market for this machine. You seem to have gotten hung up on the "HD" label and become a little confused. You seem pretty nice so I'd like to help with that and I hope no offense is taken. First point would be that folks who buy $200 machines generally can't afford the $700 - 1,500.00 machines you suggest as the alternatives we should consider. That's why there's a $200 sewing machine market, but those in that market have very legit needs for a durable strong machine. And this machine is definitely all of that. The 16 different models of machines in that lineup are actually a good thing. You can get a config that most suits your needs. Not sure how or why one might think that a bad thing. Regardless, the machine is constructed not just of metal housing, but of metal innards as well. You wouldn't know that unless you took it apart to see inside (or watched a fantastic video from someone who did kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qq-dh7d1nd-bZWQ.html). That's what is commonly referred to as Heavy Duty construction. Minimal plastic, maximum metal. For durability and longevity that's hugely important. You can sew leather with this machine. Multiple layers. Denim. Multiple layers. Pretty much as much as you can fit under the foot. For the average user (who isn't sewing inch thick saddle gear or sewing together nylon towing straps or load bearing equipment harnesses) that is PLENTY. And, by any non-industrialists standards it is absolutely 100% a Heavy Duty machine. Speaking of which, I think you are confusing the term Heavy Duty with Industrial. HD consumer machines are not Industrial machines, and are not meant to be. For 99.9% of the laypersons who would need a tough machine this one will easily do, and then some. Also, while it's probably somewhat impolite to link to another YT video on the same topic, I think I would be remiss in not suggesting again you watch this technical breakdown of the Singer 4452 HD. Hopefully this will help. Peace and kind regards. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qq-dh7d1nd-bZWQ.html

I'm a yachty and needed a heavy duty sewing machine and something I could sew my clothes as well. I bought the Janome HD 3000 and couldn't be happier with it. It sews throught 12 lawyers of denims, sail covers and smaller sails, but once you take the sails off you would usually have a long lasting work done in a sails loft anyway, but its good for tears . It sews delecate fabrics like chiffon and silks. I've had this machine for 6 years and love it. The best thing is that its not Electronic so very few things go wrong. It has plenty of stitces including stretch and serving as well.

ok... So i started this video about an hour after I had watched a Teardown and view of the exact machine types. Sewing Machine Repair Guy on youtube did an actual breakdown by opening and showing you the inside of the machine. He broke down what parts were metal and what was plastic and why one could be fine being plastic. She started talking about how the motors only take so much in regards to power. The motor is always geared with a small gear on the motor and a big gear on the Top. they are belt driven and if a belt can work in a motorcycle they can and do work on a sewing machine. All of her rants were second-hand because she does not have the first-hand knowledge to understand what she is talking about. The electrical part was a huge giveaway on why she doesn't understand half the topics she is talking about. I think she is pushing for other brands. Babyloc is her push of choice. I won't watch more of her videos.

I would give you a hug for this, I 100% agree, it's all marketing, and it works well on a lot of people!

This helps a lot!! Now I’m going to check out your video! Thank you for being honest with us!!

This is fascinating! Really learning a lot from your videos.

I have a singer HD and it works through everything, i can fit under the foot. 8 layers denim? No problem, doesnt even slow down much. It is a strong maschine targeted at new people to the Hobby who are searching for a maschine, that will do a lot of denim etc. Without problems and thats exactly what it does. And it is light and small enough to Just put it away when you dont use it. I think its the right marketing. Its not a disadvantage for the buyer. I wouldnt have bought a more expensive one.

What machine would you recommend for doing alteration work?

so what would you recommend for first time buy? I wanna sew some pouches(EDC) in some canvas and condura material. does the Singer do the trick? what do you reccommend?

What machine do you recommend for putting patches on a leather vest?

I have the Singer 4432 Heavy Duty machine. I got it when they first came out. I didn't like it much at first, but I grew into it. I actually enjoy it now. I had a cheap Suinger basic machine that broke sewing denium. It busted, and the timing was way off. With the heavy duty one can sew denium. I don't care if it is hype or not. I'm pleased with my machine. It works for my needs. I have a vintage Singer 414G. That machine can do heavy duty. It doesn't do much more than a straight stitch, but it works. I get what you are saying. I do believe for a home machine the Heavy Duty is good enough. It does do more than the regular Singer does. I have a Husqvarna Viking Emerald machine too. It is a little more fussy but it's a good machine. I may be a sailor (In a Navy veteran) but I'm not going to sew sails. I'm not sewing layers of canvas. I'm not a machine snob.

I was considering Singer Heavy duty but now I will explore some more options. Thanks for sharing your experience. It'll certainly help people to look past the marketing gimmicks.

This answered all of my questions thank you so much!!

Heavy duty machines handle leather and denim better than a standard machine. It’s not “just”!marketing. There’s a difference between heavy duty and industrial.

I’m on my second Singer sewing machine (by choice I wanted to have a second one) and I sew hours and hours a day and it’s never had any problems. My first one is from 2014 and it’s never had a single issue

Weird. I must have gotten their rainbow unicorn. It's doing everything I need in terms of heavy duty. How many home sewers are in need of a Juki industrial or a Sailrite?

My 1990 Singer Quantum CSL is a total workhorse! I do a lot of upholstery, sometimes up to 4 layers of duck cloth or Sunbrella and with the proper needle and thread it’s never let me down. My main complaint is parts are hard to get.

Hello, do you know the Necchi q132a which falls in the category of Heavy duty? Is this a good sewing machine, comparable to the Singer HD machines

Hello, thank you for the video. Can this machine sew 3 or 4 layers of canvas fabric?

I’m hemming jeans and maybe some leather what do you recommend??

Thank you for putting g HD machines where they belong on the buying list. Years ago I needed a stretch stitch machine so I went shopping with a $20 bill in my purse and the only 4-5 stitches I needed. Kenmore fit my bill and I've had her for years. Currently looking for a mechanical machine that I can use set up with a different thread, double needle, whatever and almost fell into the HD talk. Was more into the metal frame lasting longer. (At 70 y.o. forever is exactly what I need. Lol. ) Thank you for letting me know that I was right to keep on looking ~~ not saying I won't get one but knowing facts is important. Once again, thank you.

My dance teacher calls this "selling the same thing in a different package."

I just got a Janome HD3000 is that a ploy as well? It sewed leather and denim in the review I saw.

What do you think about Necchi Q132A 32? For thick materials ansd everyday use

I have a vintage Singer and it is all metal. I love that 301A! I', not sure which machine I should look at next.

I need to sew 10mm neoprene. Would something like the Sailrite leather sewing machine work?

hi guys I am a beginner What would I buy for sewing leather, plastic as well heavy fabrics? Any brand specific models etc.? Thanks, guys, for your time.

I've got the heavy duty denim. I just bought it because it looks so good. It actually does work too! Nice vid!

Really ironic that you didn't actually show the machines not doing what they claim ???

Is the janome jw8100 good or just as good as the hd1000 or better? If I wanted a computerized

I was given an old (japanese made) montgomery ward sewing machine. Are these machines any good? I was having trouble getting it to stitch consistently without stalling. But I'm sure it's probably just something I'm doing wrong. (like the tension on the thread)

Can you recommend an inexpensive machine that can do a chain stitch?

I did a search on KZfaq University for the Baby Lock Joy and watched a few of your videos and I am happy that the purchase I made. You said all the same things the wonderful Lori @Sierra Sewing told me! I took in a 1960 something Singer for repair and really am bummed that it was far more to fix it than buy new. I am only missing the nostalgia but you both have made my decision feel safe and sound! Thank you!

Yes you can invest in an expensive machine, but when they need repair, there lies a difficulty for a rural sewist. Invest in Singer HD and if unable to repair, you can buy another a few times over compared to high end machines.

Oh man this was the first USEFUL video about Heavy Duty branded machines I've seen. Thanks!

Great advice. Thanks. You confirmed my suspicions and reminded me of previous readings and research I’d done.

Hi I m looking for a sewing machine that can sew leather, pvc, canvas n cotton . What is the best sewing machine to buy tq

Im so so happy im reading the comments. I am basically trained more than 10years ago to sew and repair fabric. Im researching, i need cheap, im not going to be using this as my main income i just need cheap but reliable as well as able to run through tough thicker materials. I don't have the money for anything like what you're recommending.

This was very informative. Thanks!

Would a basic brother machine handle sewing patches on jean jacket?

I’ve owned the Singer HD 4452. I sew home decor, faux leather handbags with no problem. I recently purchased the Singer 6700c they can handle multiple layers of thick fabrics. I can sew up four layers. Of course an industrial machine has more power. I’m speaking honestly from experience

Nice! -- QUESTION -- I am looking at a CONSEW 206 RB-1 as it seems nice. Do you know whether it can do a ZIG ZAG stich on that machine or is it too old? We want to be able to repair sails on our sailboat and do stuff like that. Heavy materials.

Of course you get paid per view and comment so I guess this helps your algorithm. My Singer Simple and Heavy Duty both made it through the pandemic with basic maintenance. Not a single one of them failed me. Even now my Heavy Duty is making pageant gowns with all the sequins imaginable. No threads busting, there’s a broken needle here and there as with any other machine, and have used heavy fabrics. To each their own on this machine but I love it and do recommend

My wife wants a sewing machine for Christmas. Mostly for your average tasks. However I’d like to use it in the future of sewing some things with 500D-1000D Cordura fabrics. Do we need a heavy duty model or will the Janome 4120QDC-T model work fine for cordura?

Hmmm-- the Sewing Machine Repair Guy tested out the Singer Heavy Duty line with all sorts of electronic gizmos and said it really is a heavy duty machine. I have seen the Janome HD1000 compared with a "normal" home machine and it really does handle more. It may be a marketing thing, but that doesn't make it not actually heavy duty.

The name heavy duty is weird, but if you don't look at it as some professional industrial machine, rather casual hobby machine, then it really delivers. And the price is at that level as well. Personally I would recommend HD line over those cheaper non-HD white machines from Singer because those machines are slow and can't sew through thicker fabric.

Thank you. This video has helped me to finally make the decision of which machine to buy.

"Heavy duty" usually means capable of sewing really thick fabrics like heavy canvas and thick leather. No normal domestic machine is built to do that, and neither are most industrials. But it can also be taken to mean capable of prolonged use as occurs in garment factories, and no domestic machine is built to do that; only industrials are.

great video - thanks so much!

What do you think about Brother heavy duty computerized machine? ST150.

I bought a singer 4452 brand new for 100 bucks at auction and it's been fantastic for me for the price point. Solid build and the insides are well put together. There is definitely a difference between these

You've given me points to think about. I've sewn since I was a school-girl, but haven't sewn in the last few years as I've had other things I've needed to deal with. Now I want to get back into it and sew up the stash of fabric that I have in the cupboard. I got my old machine out and thought 'I forgot how much I hate this machine', so I thought it must be time to get a machine that I love. The machine I had before this one was a Janome, I don't know the model, but I bought it when I left school and the metal pieces started breaking. I was devasted. It did weigh a tonne and I could hardly lift it. So the newer ones are better for lightness factor. Now I'm going to list what I hate about my current machine and what I stitches etc I need. Thanks for the video.

So is the janome hd1000 basically almost the same as the singer heavy duty? I was actually looking at the janome hd1000 rather than the singer

One indication that heavy duty is just a marketing term is looking how Singer market the same machines in different countries. In Brazil it is not called "heavy duty" (or the equivalent in Portuguese). It is called "Facilita Pro" (which translates to "Ease Pro").

I bought a singer heavy duty because it offered an adjustable pressure foot , 1,100 stitch per minute and more feed dogs than the usual

What sewing machine would you recommend that is simple low maintenance can sew canvas tents and backpacks but also can sew linen and denim clothing?

The strange thing is that the same feeling came to me when I first saw the advertisement for the Singer heavy-duty sewing machine, because naturally, if the machine is heavy to use, why do they put the name on it?

Thanks this helped me out. I'm a beginner and need it for basic sewing like curtains and hems.

I found a used sewing machine dealer, I told him I wanted a sturdy clothing capacity machine. He told me "I have just the thing you need," a Sears Kenmore, 1980's vintage, made in Japan. It's almost entirely machined metal parts, and has a step reduction speed drive that walks through blue jean/canvass layered fabrics relentlessly. It had very low hours use like many used machines and I really like it. Sold to me for $300.00

I have the Singer 6217c which was the heavy duty of its day. It's 30 years old now and I'm still sewing! Not sure if it's heavy duty with regard to sewing (although 30 years!) but the frame is so superior to anything they are building these days unfortunately and the presser foot lever is metal! On the downside, it's so heavy to lift!

Does singer 4423 heavy duty machine suitable to stitch dress

I just made a sheepskin zip up hoodie with mine and it worked great. Easiest machine to use. The titanium needles work awesome in it.

Thank you, thank you thank you! I am sooo tired of seeing YT videos claiming these Singers are the best beginner machines for a given year. As a professional sewing machine technician, we have these machines come in to our shop for repair all the time--some as new as six months. Broken gears, bent shafts: there is nothing we can do for them. You recommended Baby Lock joy, which is a great alternative. There are a few baby lock machines one could buy for the price of a Singer HD. Folks, instead of picking up a cheap Singer at Walmart or the hobby craft store, take a trip to a real sewing machine dealer and get a quality machine on any budget. As the point was made, Singer is owned by an equity firm and has noting to do with the quality machines of 100 years ago. Singer of today could just as well market pogo sticks!

I am researching for an industrial machine and I’m glad I found your video as I was considering one of these as they’re cheaper but it looks not a lot better than my 30 year old brother thanks.

I'm looking to buy my first sewing machine and this video was very informative. Thx

Yeah, when I wanted to buy a sewing machine my parents kept telling me "singer! singer!!" Im glad I went with your advice and got the babylock joy. Its a pretty solid machine even if im still trying to figure out all its quirks! Havent had much time to use it though because school, but since it lets out soon i hope ill be able to make some garments and things with it

Thank-you for replying/making a comment on this! ! Making petbeds (one for an aggressive pitty (pitbull)

Great job and perfect message. So true on the "Heavy Duty" term used for the Singer machines. They are great machines for normal sewing They just are not made for heavy or large material like awnings, upholstery, Thick tarp etc.

Thank you for this. Just when i was about to buy a machine.

The Singer heavy duty went through leather for me just fine. Much better then the standard ones. My Janome HD is going through thick materials like butter so... I think it does help?

Is janome hd1000,hd3000,hd5000 basically the same machine but different exterior and upgraded features as numbers go up but essentially the save machine? Or is the hd3000 and 5000 different machine in all.. and Janome is actually heavy duty or are they marketing heavy duty like singer and is it really just a regular sewing machine?

Thank you !

I have two of my mother's old Singer Sewing Machines but what I've found out through the years is that it comes down to the needles and the feet. However, I look forward to buying a Baby Lock Machine.

This is really helpful. I'm going to a big sewing Expo next week. I used to sew patterns as a teenager (20 years ago) but moved around so much since then. Now I have a house and want a machine. I thought heavy duty meant it was geared toward denim, leather, etc. One of the projects I'm looking to do is cotton rope bowls, baskets, etc. for my house. I tried the Baby Lock Jubilant last week and really like it but all the Amish ladies around me swear by Janome. Are there good Janomes in the $500 price range I should be looking at? The HD3000?

here in EGYPT we only have SINGER and BROTHER machines .. i want a machine for garment small business but solid to stand me for a long time ,, H.D is better or simple 3232 ? or brother is better ? Brother is cheaper here after taxes ,, buying babylock without reparing options here sounds wrong .. please help me ! shipping it across is right or buy from here bc of the garantee ?

Thank you for thing information on heavy duty sewing machines.

Great video. I'm mostly in agreement with your opinion, but having sewn on the machine and pulled the covers off, I think it deserves good marks among PoS machines. BTW, the Singer HD series is one of several brands (Bernette B05, Pfaff 160s, Necchi Q132A, etc.) that offer a clone of this machine. The plastic skin, features and accessories vary, but the base machine is the same. We have a Necchi Q132A version. It's not the smoothest, straightest, most powerful, but it does a good job (for a cheap machine) on material considered heavy by modern home machine standards. It will handle heavier poly and lighter nylon thread and responds to tension adjustments well. It punches thru extended runs of maximum thickness (6mm?) fabric (denim, etc.) at speed with no strain. It will sew some coated nylon, webbing, garment leather, etc., but technique, (start position, attack, thread tension...), needle type (denim, leather) and possibly thread lube are important. It's reasonably well designed internally. There is a fair amount of metal where plastic is often found (on modern machines in the price range). It's simple to access, clean, oil and adjust (internally). High mortality rate parts are cheap, common and appear uncomplicated to replace. There are some (felt washer) oil points which help with durability. It's not a lifetime machine or worth expensive repairs, but among PoSs there is a decent value proposition in the heavy duty marketing. Can it sew with my Bernina 1030, Pfaff 1222SE or Juki walking foot, no, but IMHO it's (they are) a good value.

So people shouldn’t buy it because it has heavy duty on it? Everyone knows you can’t buy an industrial machine at Walmart…In todays market more domestic machines (in this price range) have nonmetal frames/components. It’s popular because it’s a solid machine for the money.

I bought the latest singer heavy duty computerized bundled with the hard case for 260 after a lot of research. Wanted it for denim. It can go through 10+ layers of denim with ease. Why buy a lesser machine that cant even do a zigzag stitch for only a little bit less money.

I have the Singer 4452, Consew CP206RL, Janome HD3000BE, Singer HD110C, Elna XQuisit II, and Viking 21e. Also, just found a Singer Quantum XL6000 at Goodwill. The only ones not technically "Heavy Duty" are the Elna XQuisit and the Singer Quantum XL6000 (although both have more power than many Heavy Duty Machines (.9 amps Singer and Elna [same machines]). I have zero complaints regarding the Singer 4452. Sews denim and even light leather.

I totally love your outlook! I have a Singer Stylist 7258. I love it!

Thanks for this video!

Thank you so much xo

This is soooo true (about the HD part). Im just trying to find a machine that I can do general sewing and some quilting on.

I fell for the wording on machine - the Heavy Duty on Singer. During lockdown I bought one and regret it. It’s noisy and slow and it’s light. It kept jumping backwards during fast sewing. I have a old Pfaff and I’m sticking to Pfaff forever.. Thank you so much for highlighting what many people are experiencing with this Singer Heavy duty crap machine.

I was impressed by this fact, but according to your video. You've mentioning Juki sewing machine a lot in this video. So are the Juki HZL heavy duty portable is just 'heavy duty' branding or it's really heavy duty and more better then singer HD. And Do you prefer the janome HD or the Juki HD for heavy duty portable sewing machine? i'm sorry if my grammar are not really good, i hope you can understand it :") Thank youu

I gotta say thank you for stopping me from buying these machines to start up my business… i got the juki 😊🙏🏼💜

I wanted a Singer because I used Singer when I was little. They are good machines. I didn't fall ploy, I bought it because I wanted it. The end.

Indeed, nostalgia is keeping the name alive. I ordered this 'heavy duty' a few years ago and was astounded by the terrible noise it made. So I returned it and bought a second hand Elna. Perfect machine! Then, about a year ago I fell for an offer on a Singer serger and sold my old, but very good Toyota 😞 Hell, the noise it makes!! I couldn't use it late at night because my neighbour, sleeping behind the wall of my sewing room, started complaining about the noise. So now I just bought a second hand Huskylock. Awesome, and the sound is of a normal, smooth machine. No more Singers for me, ever!

I suspected this was the case. Glad to hear your perspective.

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