STOP THE CAP - RC Drift Test w/Capacitor & Servo

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Ideal Auto Factory

Ideal Auto Factory

Күн бұрын

In this video I out my best foot forward to accurately test the craze that is adding a capacitor in line with the servo to smooth out steering in rc drifting. Will it work? Lets find out.
Please keep in mind that I am a hobbyist who just enjoys drifting in the garage on occasions and want to have the best experience possible for the money and time put in. Thank you for watching.
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@SeanLewisMedia
@SeanLewisMedia 5 ай бұрын
The mans back with some heat! I honestly really enjoy you throwing these questions out. Nothing wrong with testing!
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
Couldn’t just make any ol’ video after being gone for so long. Thanks for watching!
@IzzyFlip
@IzzyFlip 5 ай бұрын
Love the video, thank you so much for putting this out there and I agree with everything you said. I’m an electrician and have been rc drifting for a little over a year so hopefully I can add something useful to the conversation. Capacitors will also help with filtering of the sign wave, providing smoother power to the electronics. A non linear load happens when the ESC is taking the single phase voltage from the battery and changing it to 3 phase voltage this causes a crazy sign wave. On top of that the output voltage to the motor is being pulsed to modulate the speed of the motor, this is called pwm, pulse width modulation. This can be applied to the servo motor as well. All this causes a bunch of noise and makes an erratic sign wave, making it harder and less efficient for the electronics to do their job. This is where the capacitors come in, they act as a filter, and provide for a smoother sign wave that can be seen with an oscilloscope. The smoother sign wave makes it easier for the electronics to work. Basically, smoother sign wave = smoother ride. Now are they necessary? Absolutely not. Do they help? Yeah. Will it make you better? No only practice can help with that. This is just a surface level explanation but I hope this helps.
@danielmoriarty751
@danielmoriarty751 5 ай бұрын
Actually, the voltage does drop. I can put a meter on there and show you. The capacitor should be thought of as a storage device that is capable of releasing instant power needed instead of relying on the battery to release. It is definitely noticeable if you’re using batteries with a lower C rating. So for people that are using heavy amounts of boost and turbo, it does help running a capacitor way less strain on the electrical system. It’s no different than putting a capacitor in a car stereo. It helps the headlights from dipping every time the bass hits same thing.
@hori_ink82
@hori_ink82 3 ай бұрын
Caps do work when your drifting and at constant radio inputs it helps especially at the end of the battery when it’s about to die it will keep you drifting the same all till the end 🤙🏽
@wekitralph
@wekitralph 5 ай бұрын
exactly! you have japanese drivers using the stock caps. rpx2s esc been winning rcdc.
@sylviag59
@sylviag59 5 ай бұрын
The knowledge and questioning is great! Keep up the good work👍🏾
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
Thank you…. I will 😁
@RCDriftNetwork
@RCDriftNetwork 5 ай бұрын
Another great video bro!
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
Thank you 🫡
@gvngoheavy
@gvngoheavy 5 ай бұрын
Yessir! Been sayin this for forever. Especially coming from FPV drone world. Caps aint doin what you think their doing in surface RC world. What would make a difference? if we went to sbus or serial radio frequency that is received, interpreted, and distributed by a control board. Then in the programming of that control board you could program in certain things like signal smoothing as well as a million other things. In the drone world Caps matter, but no body is spending more than $10 on their cap setup, and people have proven that more than anything the amount of wire you have between the control board and the cap is more crucial than the size of the cap itself. FPV is SOO much more sensitive to voltage spike and fluctuation than surface rc, so if it matters that much and a $5-10 cap is the solution for that application there is NOOO reason multiple caps on surface RC builds are a solution to any kind ish ya got going on. I know thats what you sayin, just needed to back you up, offer some supporting perspective. Crazy how anytime I start rambling about how surface rc needs fpv drone style control boards everyone starts lookin at me funny, but it makes sennnse. Also one then control boards is like $40, and includesss -gyro -bec -32bit processor -addressable rgd led controller -and like 7-8 pwm channel outputs. Sorry for the rant yall.
@ryanfonseca3270
@ryanfonseca3270 5 ай бұрын
Fpv guy here as well, and you are speaking truths right there, honestly I almost stayed away from surface because the lack of openness to the idea of “if it works it works, cost does not equal value”… I notice a lot of people have the mentality of the most expensive product means it’s the best and if you don’t have a minimum level of money spent on your car and radio then it’s impossible to compete with everyone else. I would love to see a move towards something like a surface BLheli esc using a F7 gyro controller and taking advantage of all the sensor filtering tech smoothing out the gyro outputs with way more adjustment to the gyro, and then setup something like dshot 300/600 making the link feel locked together between your hands/radio and the wheels/floor… plus if they can fit 4-70a escs on a 30x30 board now, and sell it for 60 bucks, and have the best gyro controllers for $60-100. I’m sure they can do a single board with single 120A esc and F7 gyro, black box recording for both those, 8.4v BEC, and have built in Elrs rx just to show off all for $100ish Maybe less. Sure would Bring a lot more new people to the hobby…
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
@ryanfonseca3270 wow. That gyro and esc you mentioned. I bet its smaller than some of these 1/10scale motors out.
@gvngoheavy
@gvngoheavy 5 ай бұрын
@@ryanfonseca3270 YES! My thoughts exaactly. I have a SpeedyBee F405 FC that Ive been wanting to put inav on to see how close I can get to a "ground control" kind of solution. I would love to rebuild my yd2 with that F405 - nsdrc rs400 - Holmes Hobbies 2500kv 10p outrunner - Holmes Hobbies crawlmaster esc running AM32 - and an elrs rx direct soldered to the f405. Been really wondering about how an outrunner motor would feel on a drift setup seeing as it potentially has a different rotational inertia and could affect traction and weight shift fore and aft very differently. I really like and agree with the point you made about dshot and how responsive that would feel. If we started running outrunner or at least higher pole count motors we really wouldnt need motors+esc's with sensors, and if the FC is controlling boost, and timing, then we can get away with pretty dumb esc's as well as radios. The MT12 coming out really opened up a lot of doors for us... I really need to put all this into a cohesive narrative and just make a video about it.
@MX304
@MX304 5 ай бұрын
Caps used to be a requirement before esc, BEC, and receiver technology caught up with high power servos. You would run into issues where a power hungry servo (Savox was one of the most problematic) would drop the voltage so much that the receiver would brown out and cause a loss of control. Modern RC electronics don't have that issue and the caps, or glitch busters as they used to be called, are no longer needed.
@pablowheels
@pablowheels 4 ай бұрын
I just got a jobbywing esc and mottor and proggramer can you share your settings and your opinion for the boost and turbo timing and delays please! Thanks
@grski900000000000000
@grski900000000000000 5 ай бұрын
IAF notifications bring the ❤, you just saved me €80 , I’ve watched a YT upload from DOSLOG recently and one of the local drivers was using 2 Acuvance Cap sets on his competition car , He said he didn’t see any noticeable difference with 1 but did notice smoother action with 2 🤔 This upload confirms my doubt. look forward to the next video upload Already , Appreciate Your work and testing IAF ✌🏻
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching. Your feedback is greatly appreciated!
@darkvillin
@darkvillin 5 ай бұрын
I saw that video as well and thought to myself, if he didn’t notice a difference using 1, why would you waste money on a another part you already felt was not doing anything? It didn’t make any sense.
@pederbalerado
@pederbalerado 5 ай бұрын
Good vid! Question everything! I feel the same tbh. But you cant say tuning and have all those weights bro 😂😘 all love 🙌🏽
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 Aye somebody paying attention I see!
@pederbalerado
@pederbalerado 5 ай бұрын
@@idealautofactory 🫡 😂
@OperatorD95
@OperatorD95 5 ай бұрын
I can tell you why it does nothing, the ESC already has capacitors in it for both motor and BEC output doing the exact same thing, adding more is not gonna benefit you in any way. That's just snake oil sales tactics and Accuvance does it the best with their line up of unnecessary extras for way to much money lol (a capacitor in the industry of small electronics costs from a few cents to a few dollars max)
@itsme_myselfandCj
@itsme_myselfandCj 4 ай бұрын
What's a good kg for a drift servo? I was thinking of getting a 25kg, but I'm unsure because I've seen some 7.5kg - 18kg drift servos and don't know if lower is better
@jaxxon3998
@jaxxon3998 5 ай бұрын
Only an expert in electronics can explain how capacitors work. Ask any car audio enthusiast ask them why their car sound systems need capacitors....😂
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
😂 every time the bass comes in the headlights still dimming
@NathanStorer-RC
@NathanStorer-RC 5 ай бұрын
Great video, bro. Been wondering how much these caps actually prevent voltage drop. I'm assuming the Trace Bector does nothing with the signal wire, just passes it through to the servo for a more "plug and play" experience.
@BikeLifeWithShy
@BikeLifeWithShy 5 ай бұрын
Definitely not, there is an instant noticeable difference in feel and connection with the trace bector. So much so I will not take it off my Esc signal. Your can modulate the throttle with out the Esc voltage dropping and the disconnect before the Esc Revs up again. This is definitely not a item you put on with no effect
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
@BikeLifeWithShy what esc you running?
@BikeLifeWithShy
@BikeLifeWithShy 5 ай бұрын
@@idealautofactory running the rad on one of my chassis and xd10pro on another. Tested both with and without trace bector. Definitely prefer the trace. Also have tested in the servo and gyro line going out the rx and the trace with smooth out throttle tremendously as well as your gyro. I have experienced a big difference in “feel” with these Trace bectors, not saying it will make anyone a better driver, of course that comes with seat time but the feel and experience on the track is really nice when they are on your signal wire
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
@BikeLifeWithShy the trace bector is the one with the “in & out” plugs right?
@totallyrandomuser5760
@totallyrandomuser5760 5 ай бұрын
My ESC's BEC supplies 5.8V and with steering it drops to 5.3V. Servos have a speed and torque set at specific voltages and become weaker, less responsive with lower voltage. Capacitors smooth out those voltage drops. Maybe modern electronics aren't this sensitive, are more power efficient and maybe it's time for me to move away from cheap but still decently competitive 2017 electronics.
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
Yea you tested it and saw a need for a capacitor but ultimately I think old tech was the cause of the problem.
@DJ.1001
@DJ.1001 5 ай бұрын
Sounds Iike you have a crap bec or steering binding. I've never seen my bec voltage drop more than 0.1v on any of my setups
@totallyrandomuser5760
@totallyrandomuser5760 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm looking into upgrading. Currently I'm using a Hobbywing 120A v2.1 clone I got from Hobbyking for sub 40 bucks with USB programmer 6 years ago - great ESC if not for a few flaws.
@patrickfrensdorff7485
@patrickfrensdorff7485 4 ай бұрын
ur cap shortens the spikes. What is it u expect it to do? Do u even know what it does?
@FPSRCDRIFT
@FPSRCDRIFT 5 ай бұрын
Great vid bro. I have been doing some blind testing on FEEL alone. Getting drivers to go out on track 3-4 times and I either put the cap in there handset or not and see if they can tell me when it’s in or not and the results tell me I my does nothing 😂 Trying to figure out a way to make it into a vid 😂🫡 Had one of the guys take it out of my car ( trace bector between esc and receiver) at a random point during a drift day to see if I could tell it had gone. I DID NOT NOTICE 😂
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
Oh wow!! Getting others involved and doing the blind testing is such an honest idea. I hope to see a video on that once you figure it out.
@LineRocks75
@LineRocks75 5 ай бұрын
This is too good!!! 😂🤣bout time someone tested just saved myself some money cheers!!!!
@FPSRCDRIFT
@FPSRCDRIFT 5 ай бұрын
@@LineRocks75😂
@DJ.1001
@DJ.1001 5 ай бұрын
I think running tons of fans on your chassis is far more detrimental than any capacitor is beneficial.
@foleyflipa12345
@foleyflipa12345 5 ай бұрын
Capacitor on the line will not smooth out steering at all The only usefulness Capacitor is on esc to stop voltage drops and Capacitor on the reciver to smooth out voltage drops
@danielmoriarty751
@danielmoriarty751 5 ай бұрын
If you wanna see what the capacitor does leave the car turned on and unplug the battery, the car will keep running for a few seconds
@shawn12992
@shawn12992 5 ай бұрын
Why are you using the OMG cap when you said it didn't work in the first place? So, I feel this video is invalid testing.
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
When you say “didn’t work in the first place” are you referring to it not stopping the servo chatter?
@shawn12992
@shawn12992 5 ай бұрын
@@idealautofactory yes
@idealautofactory
@idealautofactory 5 ай бұрын
@shawn12992 ok good point. I’m sorry I didnt put it in the video but I made sure that cap could hold a charge. I’ll make a short so you can see that.
@jakejacob9814
@jakejacob9814 2 ай бұрын
When you guys say chatter, what exactly do you mean? I don't know about chatter. A confessor in theory will smooth out voltage ripple
@jakejacob9814
@jakejacob9814 2 ай бұрын
R c explain has a very good video about this
@cey8908
@cey8908 5 ай бұрын
It's all placebo effect when people buy hundred dollar capacitor
@DJ-fi2ig
@DJ-fi2ig 5 ай бұрын
Is a blaze needed? Nah. If you want a little more ooomph from say an ESC like a Toro 100? I think it comes stock with something low. A 1650 3 Cap off the HW setups is money. An example of a decent setup is the HW XR10D. It comes with a 1650 cap stock. Plenty imo.
@cey8908
@cey8908 5 ай бұрын
@@DJ-fi2ig 100A is also a little over kill, i can enable 25 deg of turbo with a 30c battery
@jakejacob9814
@jakejacob9814 2 ай бұрын
Coming from a car, audio side dealing with ultra capacitors. Forget about the signal wire It is not the smoking gun. You think it is. Remember, a capacitor is just a immensely. Powerful battery With almost no capacity think of it like a 1mah lipo with 1000000c With near infinite Cycles Who's only function is to provide bursts of current During peak demand. The servo Does not care where the Power comes from the signal. Wire is the only wire that needs to come from the receiver to tell the servo to draw that power. ( A lot like a relay) Of course, understanding all that Don't get us any closer to a Definitive, answer. What neither does your test? Your test was on a closed system with a finite capacity. When you take a sip from your cup of water. Are you surprised there's less water in the cup afterwards? The theory is sound In principle . Look at the size of these receivers I'm honestly amazed by the power pulled through them. Fundamentally, it's hard to argue against A big bucket of water right next to the fire. The science speaks for itself regardless of our ability to perceive it or not. Basically Questionable, but plausible. Easily the most satisfying. Maybe i've ever said
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