STOP Using Hose Clamps WRONG - LEARN A BETTER WAY

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Silver Cymbal

3 жыл бұрын

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@MattBuilds902
@MattBuilds902 3 жыл бұрын
Here on the east coast in Canada those clamps rust and crack then hose leakes. Screw style has always lasted for me being use stainless ones
@JoeZasada
@JoeZasada 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Salt belt goodness. But use good hose clamps that can be properly torqed ... Not those weak China ones.
@larryhumphries3341
@larryhumphries3341 3 жыл бұрын
Yeppers in areas were you have salt water or salt is used in the winter to melt snow or ice. You need to use stainless steel.
@WarriorNotesLatino
@WarriorNotesLatino 3 жыл бұрын
But aluminum
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 3 жыл бұрын
Down here in the northeast I do generator service. It's always lovely to have a block heater fail and cause all kinds of cold water leaks at hose joints due to screw clamps. And after hose replacement you've gotta retorque em a few times after some heat cycles. I do like the spring clamps for the constant tension. But occasionally I've had to replace those with screw style clamps as they still show signs of sweating.
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeZasada Somebody gave me a box of those from harbor freight, After 3-4 of em stripped out upon tightening , I threw em in the scrap pile and I'll get .39c for em when I have enough for the scrap run.
@darkreno750
@darkreno750 3 жыл бұрын
Be careful with these clamps they can fly across the room at 30mph if you don’t handle it right lol
@Julio-jm8ld
@Julio-jm8ld 3 жыл бұрын
Yup and a pinched palm with the damm end of the pliers
@darkreno750
@darkreno750 3 жыл бұрын
@@Julio-jm8ld oh gosh you just reminded me of a terrible memory man I pinched my hand so hard with some needle nose pliers trying to get one of these off I had to get stitches
@AngryTurds
@AngryTurds 3 жыл бұрын
Too many volcano bongs?
@thaik56
@thaik56 3 жыл бұрын
Use vice grips
@theblueboy20
@theblueboy20 3 жыл бұрын
Did ya see the spider
@beejay7665
@beejay7665 3 жыл бұрын
Not recommended for Diesel engines on boats, per ABYC H-33.10.e.4; “clamps depending solely on the spring tension of the metal shall not be used”
@migael92
@migael92 Ай бұрын
Why did VW put these @#$@&@! things on my little diesel from the factory.
@xplore7359
@xplore7359 3 жыл бұрын
Literally everything he's saying has been the exact opposite in my 20 years experience...
@TVCColin
@TVCColin 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he obviously has 0 experience with automobile repair. I work on cars all day everyday and only use the worm gear ones because the pretension ones never work right after removing them.
@cheesecurd100s
@cheesecurd100s 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen so many subaru spring style clamps fail.
@jarrodnichols8111
@jarrodnichols8111 3 жыл бұрын
@@TVCColin The spring style are one-time use. You're not meant to reuse them.
@Awackypenguin
@Awackypenguin 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, the entire video I'm thinking to myself "the fuck is this guy on about". Good quality worm clamps work fine. Makes you wonder what other videos he has where he just spews BS
@eliezerramosjr1017
@eliezerramosjr1017 3 жыл бұрын
Your right not to mention they lose that tension with time unlike the work style clamps which I say I had never had a problem.
@chrishernandez2490
@chrishernandez2490 3 жыл бұрын
I must be the minority. Ive always used those worm gear clamps and have never had issues.
@cujoedaman
@cujoedaman 3 жыл бұрын
And I'm sure every other person that has used them has never had a problem either. He just has something wrong with his truck specifically.
@robertgary3561
@robertgary3561 3 жыл бұрын
Try putting a pressure tester on it and I can almost guarantee at least one will leak a little. The spring style rarely leak
@mikecastleberry9671
@mikecastleberry9671 3 жыл бұрын
Ten 4 worm clamps are better
@waterloo123100
@waterloo123100 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertgary3561 You don’t have the right sized clamp or it’s not tightened enough if they leak. There’s nothing with them.
@robertgary3561
@robertgary3561 3 жыл бұрын
@@waterloo123100 it’s always after a few years. Car as a slow leak. I hook the pressure tester to it and just go around and tighten clamps and it’s good.
@ludedakid4130
@ludedakid4130 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly I’ve seen plenty of those spring clamps leak if they are old and you move them and then don’t put them back in the exact same position.
@lanceporter994
@lanceporter994 3 жыл бұрын
i totally agree i am a auto technician and work on engines 5 days a week and if you dont put them back the same they will leak but they dam good clamps
@ChavezDIY
@ChavezDIY 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, I learned this the hard way.
@LatinDanceVideos
@LatinDanceVideos 3 жыл бұрын
Make a mark with a paint marking pen. Realign the marks when assembling.
@ChavezDIY
@ChavezDIY 3 жыл бұрын
@@LatinDanceVideos Its not necessary, I can see the embossed marks on the hose that the clamp leaves. I just didn't know if the clamp needed to be realigned the way it was before. I thought maybe clamping it in a different position would still work, but I was wrong. I didn't realign it and the hose leaked.
@quademasters249
@quademasters249 3 жыл бұрын
Its because old hose often hardens up.
@rfunk727
@rfunk727 3 жыл бұрын
I've used the old style screw hose clips for over 50 years on my cars, bikes and boats and have never had one fail or lead, and I've never seen one turn bright "RED" as you mentioned.
@paul9156c
@paul9156c 3 жыл бұрын
I like marine grade stainless steel worm gear clamps for better durability.
@Krankie_V
@Krankie_V 3 жыл бұрын
If you believe he literally meant it would be glowing red hot, you may be an idiot.
@mele2904
@mele2904 3 жыл бұрын
Ya I have more trouble with those "new style" clamps. Those old style clamps normally out last the hose they are sealing. Also, those new style clamps are actually more difficult in tight places contrary to what the video says, When they turn the wrong way over time........
@jauh25
@jauh25 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna comment the same lol I’ve never seen a quality (not cheap chinese) screw clamp fail
@blatantmisconception
@blatantmisconception 2 жыл бұрын
@@jauh25 The only cheap one I've seen fail was my fault. Over tightened it, threads ripped.
@thepaperboy9009
@thepaperboy9009 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure how "new" spring clamps can be when they've been in use in cars/motorcycles/vehicles for over 4 decades.
@johnbarnett2804
@johnbarnett2804 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that, I know I've seen them back in the 70's and 80's
@JosephArata
@JosephArata 3 жыл бұрын
They're not even used for the false narrative he's attempting to portray. They are used because they are cheap and easy to install on an assembly line.
@dodgeramsport01
@dodgeramsport01 3 жыл бұрын
@@JosephArata wrong! Not cheaper!
@zachreese6540
@zachreese6540 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@dingbop963
@dingbop963 2 жыл бұрын
@@JosephArata They're used because they work better for longer
@livewireblanco
@livewireblanco 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still going to use worm gear clamps...🙃
@johnnyrebel9986
@johnnyrebel9986 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah everyone who's struggled to get those damn things off figures out to use the screw type eventually.
@jonthelamb4549
@jonthelamb4549 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyrebel9986 it’s not hard if your good at it
@johnnyrebel9986
@johnnyrebel9986 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonthelamb4549 So you're tellin me you've never had one that you couldn't depress enough to get it loose? Or some that don't hardly even have enough surface metal to put a pair of pliers on, I like the spring style clamps for large hose's like for radiator/water pump/thermostat housings because of ease of removal. But when it comes to small hoses like fuel lines ect and high pressure lines screw clamps are the way to go.
@jonthelamb4549
@jonthelamb4549 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyrebel9986 I haven’t used them much lol when I do it’s never an issue for me. Like you said the bigger ones are better then the smaller ones kinda depends where it is and what it’s on I guess
@mortenhartvigkristiansen7760
@mortenhartvigkristiansen7760 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyrebel9986 I strongly disagree. On small hoses you want to use the single use ones, you crimp on. Worm drive clamps can't (because of the worm drive mechanism) form a small circle to effectively tighten a small diameter hose. Also he specifically said that for use with high temperature fluctuations you need to use the spring type clamp.
@pk-so1mj
@pk-so1mj 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to correct you on this one. I’m a mechanic with over 20 years experience. Those hose clamps are used primarily for one reason and one reason only, speed when fitting in an assembly line. Not only are they a nightmare to remove in tricky places it gets even harder when old hoses swell and yes those clamps do lose their tension over time. Unless you line them up with the indentation they leave in the hose when re fitting guess what? They leak! The majority of the time if a hose has leaked or is leaking after fitting a clamp it’s due to the older hose being hard and is because of the hose not being soft enough to seal around fitting and then it is relying 100 percent on just the tension of the clamp. Fact is I have NEVER had a correctly tensioned clamp on a good condition hose leak. I will always replace the this style of clamp whenever I have to remove them.
@dingbop963
@dingbop963 2 жыл бұрын
Why do worm gear clamps on new heavy equipment leak?
@jimb7922
@jimb7922 Жыл бұрын
I was a mechanic for the post office and twice a year we would get multiple calls for leaking antifreeze. Those calls coincided with the change of the season. The issue was loose hose clamps. I can't say that spring clamps would definitively eliminate the issue but logically it would stand to reason that they would be less likely to leak. As to the difficulty of removing spring clamps from inaccessible locations the use of the right tool for the right job cannot be understated.
@bat__bat
@bat__bat 10 ай бұрын
I just did a timing belt job on a 2014 VW Golf. These jackass clamps are on everything and I was forced to buy that tool in the video. After losing at least 45 minutes trying to get those special clamps off with every type of pliers I own, the requirement of that special tool is not in any way a positive thing. If you or a friend is on the side of the road, which clamp would you prefer to have? The one that comes off with the screwdriver everyone carries? Yeah me too. Needless to say, after changing my friend's timing belt, I replaced as many of those jackass clamps as I could with new screw-on clamps that sane people use.
@EddieA907
@EddieA907 7 ай бұрын
Amen sir.
@CantonBn
@CantonBn 5 ай бұрын
the "speed of assembly" claim is a MYTH. There are multiple studies and engineering papers that show spring clamps on coolant hose systems perform much better. A worm clamp is over 3x times more likely to develop a leak with a the >200 degree temp swing that occurs on your heater core and radiator connections.
@eddievilla1584
@eddievilla1584 Жыл бұрын
WOW! I have a 1986 B250 Dodge van and could not find a coolant leak. When it was hot NO LEAK, but once it sat over night I would see a small amount of coolant on the ground, very frustrating.😫 Thank you, so much for your video. 👍
@thekeeling85
@thekeeling85 3 жыл бұрын
I was a professional mechanic for over ten years, I've never had an issue with the worm style clamp
@willstikken5619
@willstikken5619 3 жыл бұрын
A few things to mention about this video, you will need to have some fairly significant temperature deltas and rates of change for this adjustability to make any discernable difference. Their use by OEM's has more to do with their speed of install than their temperature compensating or maintainability traits. These clamps do work harden over time and will lose their effectiveness while looking perfectly fine. They are also reliant on the hoses themselves being in good condition as an old hard hose that has taken a set will often not clamp properly when reinstalled with these types of clamps. One benefit of screw clamps that stood out from the video is that you can replace them without having to break the seal on whatever hose you're working with, simply unscrew them all the way and slip them over the hose. Also, some of the "cons" of screw clamps are overstated. If a moron overtightens a clamp to the point of breaking a part they have accomplished something unusual and special. If this has happened to you it might be a fluke, if it has happened to you repeatedly then consider the possibility that you may be a moron.
@brettjohnson5545
@brettjohnson5545 3 жыл бұрын
I usually over-tighten them until the worm gear starts skipping teeth and/or deforming the notches; then I have to start all over only to repeat the mistake. It is my belief that this too qualifies as moronic behavior.
@jaredfarley846
@jaredfarley846 3 жыл бұрын
It uuy it u
@pmtips4482
@pmtips4482 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Will! You gave very good information here. Good read too!
@williamyoung3253
@williamyoung3253 3 жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with Will. This video is spot on about the reason for using the spring type hose clamp. Work hardening does not affect spring steel that doesn't exceed yield strength. I used to believe that the spring type was used by manufacturers because of cost or installation, but that's not true. They're just better for applications involving temperature swings. From my experience, spring type clamps are the only practical option. If screw type clamps were better, you'd at least see them on high end cars, but you don't. My biggest complaint is that they're so hard to find at auto parts stores. I guess it's easier to stock just a few screw type sizes.
@willstikken5619
@willstikken5619 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamyoung3253 We can disagree about a few things but there are a couple of reasons why you find screw clamps in auto parts stores. One is psycological the other is practical. The psychological aspect has to do with the obviousntess of function from tigtehning hte screw. It allows the less experienced to be confidnet the clamp is tight. It's also easier for the uniitated to pick a screw type clamp that will fit rather than having to pick the correct size spring clamp. The practial reason is that they work with hoses that have taken a set that often leak when reused with spring clamps.
@D2O2
@D2O2 3 жыл бұрын
Had a hose leaking on my coolant surge tank that wouldn't seal with a spring clamp. The solution was a worm clamp. My experience has been opposite of this video. I have never had success reusing spring clamps but I reuse worm clamps successfully all the time.
@vizion4273
@vizion4273 3 жыл бұрын
Yea fuck spring clams them bitches never come off
@donmax2315
@donmax2315 3 жыл бұрын
Yeap had the same problem. Couldn't take it off. Had to use a dremel to cut the dam clamp. I am still piss off. Lol
@knocksensor3203
@knocksensor3203 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe like torque to yield screws, only use them once
@Patrick_Gray
@Patrick_Gray 3 жыл бұрын
One little comment would be for hoses below 5/8", I would consider using mini clamps.
@jeromeduffy9270
@jeromeduffy9270 3 жыл бұрын
@@vizion4273 not with a pair of cheap plyers.
@lauraparker2140
@lauraparker2140 3 жыл бұрын
Holy B.S. this is a prime example of a shool trained technician.
@ssss-df5qz
@ssss-df5qz 3 жыл бұрын
I throw those spring clamps away when I take them off. Been in the trade 20 years. Probably as long as this kid has been alive.
@jimmyb1356
@jimmyb1356 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically, I was so frustrated with constant tension clamps that I switched them all out for the old fashioned hose clamps 🤦🏻
@robludwigsen7831
@robludwigsen7831 3 жыл бұрын
I always do the same thing too.
@rondon134
@rondon134 3 жыл бұрын
Same I've never had a problem with the old style
@antonyh37
@antonyh37 3 жыл бұрын
Funny cause I switch out one of these new style for the old style because they allowed coolant to leak. The coolant hasn't leaked since.
@paulsmith9341
@paulsmith9341 3 жыл бұрын
There has to be a way to size these things. They can't be one size fits all like the worm clamp. Maybe you take the od of the pipe and the od of the hose and find a clamp that has an id somewhere in the middle. 😳
@michaelpacker9805
@michaelpacker9805 3 жыл бұрын
@@paulsmith9341 careful because you really can OD off a pipe.
@justkeepingitreal7768
@justkeepingitreal7768 3 жыл бұрын
You can get worm type clamps in constant torque as well. They have a spring on them.
@AgentOrange96
@AgentOrange96 3 жыл бұрын
That seems like the best of both worlds. I replaced all my constant tension ones with worm screw types when I re-did all the vacuum lines just because the regular constant tension ones are a pain to deal with.
@jimdooner4375
@jimdooner4375 3 жыл бұрын
Have used them on my job on Diesel engines . Retired from N.Y.C.T.A. Dept of Buses
@TheRoadhammer379
@TheRoadhammer379 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir, used quite öften on the tubing for the charge air coolee
@TallyMendivil
@TallyMendivil 3 ай бұрын
Constant tension clamp tool
@matthinkson4324
@matthinkson4324 Жыл бұрын
It's about time someone mentioned this. I've known this for a while and seen guys use the worm drive style and tell them to use the automotive ones you talk about. They don't listen and just keep complaining about their car leaking or radiator fitting breaking. Course I can't judge too much, I was clueless at first too. I'm really glad you're here to tell everyone.
@lawrencekin02
@lawrencekin02 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Silver Cymbal for this video...Now I understand better on using the correct hose clamp for the radiator hose.
@cowboy41231
@cowboy41231 3 жыл бұрын
Tech tip: put the Constant Tension clamp back in the same Position, otherwise it WILL leak
@BukitMan
@BukitMan 3 жыл бұрын
I use Indian head gasket shellac on hoses. They wouldn't leak even if I used a zip tie as a clamp. Lol
@cowboy41231
@cowboy41231 3 жыл бұрын
@@BukitMan I use that stuff too as a cheap insurance
@urbanjentry222
@urbanjentry222 3 жыл бұрын
Which rarely you can
@BukitMan
@BukitMan 3 жыл бұрын
@@cowboy41231 Wouldn't ya know they just now are changing the name of it. This saddens me. And should sadden native Americans IMO. But every time I reached for that bottle I felt proud of the name. There was never any disrespect. I drive a chevy Cheyenne for crying out loud and I'm proud of that name too. Is it going to be better when they are no long represented on any products? People act as if we put them on toilet paper brands or something.
@cowboy41231
@cowboy41231 3 жыл бұрын
@@BukitMan yep sad world we live in, cancel culture bullshit.
@dyllonfowler
@dyllonfowler 3 жыл бұрын
I normally agree with you but this time I don't. I'm a diesel mechanic so I work with these daily. They can be some of the hardest ones to get off whenever you do not have clear access. And even then they often jump off the pliers. I have seen plenty of these not be able to hold pressure. We never replace them with the same style we always put worm styles in place. I work at a Freightliner dealership so that tells you something. I'm happy you like them but you're the first person I have ever heard that did.
@gplusgplus2286
@gplusgplus2286 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, every mechanic replaces them with standard clamps so the customer keeps coming back.
@dingbop963
@dingbop963 2 жыл бұрын
@@gplusgplus2286 I see worm clamps on Case IH equipment. After ten years it seems like half of em leak.
@sgtjonzo
@sgtjonzo Жыл бұрын
There’s a set of pliers you can get with cups on the end that make these much easier, but yeah I’ve busted my finger up more than once trying to get squarenoses onto them
@jimbote1968
@jimbote1968 Жыл бұрын
Use spring clamp pliers. Game changer. I've worked on vw's tdi's for years and at first i hated spring clamps, but after seeing numerous failures where previous techs had replaced spring with "worm" clamps i became a firm believer in spring clamps. Not only do they work better and never leak, but disassembly and reassembly is much, much quicker than fiddling with worm clamps. I've worn out four sets of cable spring clamp pliers over the years. That's how much i deal with them. Hands down, a superior design.
@charlestackett7137
@charlestackett7137 Жыл бұрын
Don't use pliers unless you have to. Use the spring (constant-tension) clamp tool. It's better and it doesn't ruin the constant tension springs (by bending the prongs). Don't use the tool they show in the video.
@markjordan4994
@markjordan4994 3 жыл бұрын
I found Silver Cymbal's advice to be spot on, and I'm 67, with lots of automotive experience.
@cgreen339
@cgreen339 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve honestly just never had these problems, it’s good also to make sure the old clamp is the right size as well because some may look similar but be just a hair to big, the new clamps are annoying to install in tight spaces if all you have are pliers but I’ve never had a problem with those either I think it’s mainly just about getting the right size
@SilverCymbal
@SilverCymbal 3 жыл бұрын
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@charlesparr3296
@charlesparr3296 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I've never had a problem with the old style screw clamps.
@averyalexander2303
@averyalexander2303 2 жыл бұрын
Another significant benefit of spring clamps is that they remove most of the user error aspect of installation. As long as the spring clamp is past the end of the hose fitting, it's good to go. But with worm drive clamps, there's the user error aspect of people undertightening or more often overtightening them and ending up with leaks, damage to the hose, and/or damage to the fitting.
@bat__bat
@bat__bat 9 ай бұрын
Lord have mercy. I think the first time my father showed me how to use a screw-on hose clamp, I was 10 or 11. He told me then I'd have to be a complete idiot to screw this up. Since that age I've used maybe hundreds of those clamps without a single issue. Normally, after about ten years or more of the clamps getting wet every day, the clamp rusts or corrodes and needs to be replaced - but even then, it still holds pressure fine after many thousands of temperature changes. I'm calling complete bullshit on this. "User error"? You could say the same thing about tightening ANY screw or bolt in general. And if you're that over-cautioned about the simplest hand tools in the world being used properly, you're probably a nervous wreck every time you get in a car, or plane, or train, or go kart, or lawn mower, tractor, ferry, walking across a bridge, sitting in a chair, climbing a ladder, and even laying in bed, which all of these use screws and bolts capable of dreaded "user error".... 👏😵‍💫
@jinxtacy
@jinxtacy 7 ай бұрын
@@bat__bat He's talking about removing end user error and yes you can screw up worm gear hose clamps. It's why you see people strip the wood out of their cabinetry. Anything with lighter torque that normal people interact with. I've thrown away so many worm gear clamps that were overtightened ruining the perforations. Pre-tensioned clamps do remove this variable of the end user provided it's not cocked at some angle. For you to claim the end user isn't a liability is just ignorant. As far as bolts and nuts in a car you can say the same thing. The lower the torque values the more likely you'll see people twisting the heads off bolts or pulling out threads and if you add aluminum it gets worse. Think of the stories of spark plug jobs in aluminum heads or even an oil drain plug. Normal people are wild when you put a tool in their hand
@bat__bat
@bat__bat 7 ай бұрын
@@jinxtacy idk... tightening a screw clamp using a screwdriver or nut driver is about equal in difficulty to using pliers to replace a pre-tensioned spring clamp. And on Volkswagen, you need special pliers. So, yeah. Not making any logical sense there
@jinxtacy
@jinxtacy 7 ай бұрын
@@bat__bat It's not about difficulty, it's about removing the ability of the person doing the work to screw it up. Would you trust Johnny middle class from suburbia to torque anything you own by feel? If there was similar limitation for oil filters and drain plugs the world would be a better place and that's with professionals doing the job.
@CantonBn
@CantonBn 5 ай бұрын
@@jinxtacy wrong. Plenty of engineering studies show that spring clamps hold better under the typical 0-230 degree Fahrenheit conditions of automotive coolant lines expansion and contraction
@dragoorion2680
@dragoorion2680 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I had same problem and checked it out. My 2019 Dodge Journey came with the wrong clamp. Switched to one you suggested, and problem fixed.
@johnnyrebel9986
@johnnyrebel9986 3 жыл бұрын
I think you got it backwards hoss, the screw type are way better and they stay tight. On the other hand those spring clamps weaken over time and can leak, especially if removed and replaced a number of times.
@acamaro5648
@acamaro5648 3 жыл бұрын
You got that right Bubba...
@etb4u
@etb4u 3 жыл бұрын
And, they're a PITA to get off vs screw type.
@DCSPORTSTER
@DCSPORTSTER 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen one weaken and you might want to buy the right tool to do the job. All my vehicles go north of 400,000 km and I’ve never had a spring clamp fail. That doesn’t even cross my mind that ever be an issue with it.
@ohioplayer-bl9em
@ohioplayer-bl9em 3 жыл бұрын
@@DCSPORTSTER the key word is easy.. the reason they use them is because they are easy not better. Now.. some old timers may be more comfortable with them and that's fine on older vehicles. New vehicles with plastic fittings will either crack or fall off given enough time. If it came from the factory with screws go ahead and use them. If it came with springs it's best to use the springs. Get new ones if you overstress the old ones taking them off with the wrong tool. Oh.. and buy the correct tool as well.
@therosses5
@therosses5 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the day when most youtube videos were about 3 minutes. I miss the goid ole days. Thank You for giving the answer in 2!!
@TheGunsAndGloryShow
@TheGunsAndGloryShow 3 жыл бұрын
Some have short attention spans. sorry
@TunerThings
@TunerThings 3 жыл бұрын
Have that same exact leak on my newly turboed Integra I'll have to give these a shot! Thank you!
@dingbop963
@dingbop963 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. I've never had anything but problems with worm gear clamps
@gaveintothedarkness
@gaveintothedarkness 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought cars had them because of ease of assembly. This was very insightful.
@jua7265
@jua7265 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, speed and ease of assembly are a main automotive factor. You will not see them in aircraft use.
@jacobg1488
@jacobg1488 3 жыл бұрын
They go in easy with new stuff but once those hoses get a little swollen they can become a bear especially heater core lines at the firewall that are difficult to reach. Those flex clamps are handy but I’ve encountered times that even fully compressed it didn’t open the clamp far enough and had to get creative with locking needle nose pliers. Constant tension worms are great but they are way more expensive.
@pjm329
@pjm329 3 жыл бұрын
Ease of assembly but also cost. Auto makers don't use them because they work better. They use them because they are cheaper.
@davidkeeton6716
@davidkeeton6716 3 жыл бұрын
@@pjm329 Auto manufacturers use them because a robot can install them instead of a human. The robot presents so many less problems during it's time of use. I hate them. Why, because robots don't go out and spend money which creates jobs. See...
@pjm329
@pjm329 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidkeeton6716 End result... Much cheaper.
@douggreen9433
@douggreen9433 3 жыл бұрын
These 'spring' clamps can be an absolute nightmare to deal with. In my garage we regularly replace them with jubilee clips. Never had one come back because it leaked.
@robludwigsen7831
@robludwigsen7831 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@albertlehmann2758
@albertlehmann2758 3 жыл бұрын
I worked on one recently that sprang loose and impaled the palm of my hand. There's a worm drive clamp now in it's place.
@gerrydadang8734
@gerrydadang8734 2 жыл бұрын
i have issues on those screw clamp..now this video solved my problem
@russellwood8750
@russellwood8750 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video it’s very informative I have a couple hose clamps in my spare parts pail just in case I will have to change them out now after seeing what I’ve learned from you once again thank you
@LapoftheWorld
@LapoftheWorld 3 жыл бұрын
10/10 advice. I've never had a spring clamp leak where the hose wasn't compromised somehow. I've had numerous instances of worm drive clamps leading to leaks. That said, all of those leaks happened on smaller diameter connections where the drive box on the worm drive clamp creates a flat spot of sorts where an equally small spring clamp wouldn't. On larger diameter hoses, it's less of an issue (again in my experience).
@mediocre_moto
@mediocre_moto 3 жыл бұрын
Both clamp styles have their pros and cons - many comments here already cover those. If you want a constant tension screw type clamp, look at the Breeze Constant Torque clamps. Not cheap, but you get the best of both worlds.
@ocean694
@ocean694 Ай бұрын
Thanks, I learned something new today.
@leob6534
@leob6534 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful info. Thanks very much. My 04 Frontier has been eating small amounts of coolant and I've never been able to figure out the cause. Will go out and check this fix right now. Interestingly enough, the rad hoses were replaced with worm drive clamps (not by me) some time ago, so I'm wondering if they might be the culprit. Greatly appreciated!
@HilltownCT
@HilltownCT 3 жыл бұрын
I like the convenience of the spring clamps, but they’re too failure prone with age in my experience.
@earlscheib7754
@earlscheib7754 3 жыл бұрын
I've had plenty snap
@Victor-hb4hj
@Victor-hb4hj 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting as those clamps have been factory installed for decades. Always considered them cheap alternative and replaced them with screw clamps whenever servicing my vehicles. Been working on my own cars for 50+ years and was apparently clueless. Thank you for the tip
@SilverCymbal
@SilverCymbal 3 жыл бұрын
I used to think exactly the same. They are deceptively amazing
@maxgator
@maxgator 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I will tell you... Sometimes it is dang near impossible to get those clamps off in tight spaces. If you have that problem, once you get them off, don't try to reuse them. Most of them are not designed for reuse. Get new ones. The benefit is that they will be locked open and will easily slide into position on the hose. Then you just squeeze then open and let go. They lock into place. Great info always on this channel! Thanks
@howardgrover8908
@howardgrover8908 3 жыл бұрын
I have been a mechanic for almost 40 years. I only use these on vacuum lines and small engines
@jamiedeatherage3757
@jamiedeatherage3757 3 жыл бұрын
Yes video is so true always swap out to the screw type clamps bc the 1 he's trying to seem great caused my upper radiator hose to break loose and blow my head gasket. I knew that I should have swapped out for the screw tight types.
@magalover2024
@magalover2024 11 ай бұрын
Omg thanks!!! I was wondering why I had a leak after mechanic did oil change and no other issues. 😂 your video randomly answered my question in my feed. 👍 thumbs up😊
@Dziugenonas
@Dziugenonas 3 жыл бұрын
These "new style clamps" often cause leaks in my experience. Can't explain why it happens, but I can usually fix it by replacing them with the "old style clamp" and tightening it like crazy :D
@PJBonoVox
@PJBonoVox 3 жыл бұрын
They're a solution looking for a problem. Keep using correctly sized screw clamps, they're fine.
@JoshuasRecordings
@JoshuasRecordings 3 жыл бұрын
Same. The thing I find with worm gear clamps (old style) is people don't tighten them when the engine is cold and don't tighten them enough. If you use a socket and tighten the shit out of them they're easier to install and never leak in my experience.
@PJBonoVox
@PJBonoVox 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuasRecordings Other benefit is you don't have to remove the hose to install or remove a screw clamp.
@JoshuasRecordings
@JoshuasRecordings 3 жыл бұрын
@@PJBonoVox I find screw clamps much easier to install and remove so yea. Also never had one leak when properly installed, and you can't properly install them with a screw driver. Use a socket.
@ohioplayer-bl9em
@ohioplayer-bl9em 3 жыл бұрын
Until you tighten like crazy on a plastic fitting.. it will break given enough time. That's the point of the springs, they flex with the expansion of the material.
@billp6191
@billp6191 3 жыл бұрын
I've been around race cars for 30 years,with engines easily upwards of 30 to 40 thousand dollars. I have never seen not would I ever use those spring clamps.
@billp6191
@billp6191 10 ай бұрын
@@Mole460 nobody said drag racing. I've been involved with go kart teams,and every class of stock cars ,from 4 cylinders all the way up to 1000 hp dirt late models. Standard screw type hose clamps are the norm
@lawrenceinterianofajardo5658
@lawrenceinterianofajardo5658 3 жыл бұрын
Omg thank you, this is exactly my problem...
@Eurospec73
@Eurospec73 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm glad I came across this video, I've always liked the Phillips screw style hose clamps, but you really cleared up the difference, because now I can see Why worm clamps are better as they adjust to the heat and cold and the Philips screw ones don't.
@Jamespennington71
@Jamespennington71 3 жыл бұрын
I tried to count how many times he says "....my Tacoma.." in this video but I kept falling asleep. Hahah really though... metal worm drive clamps worked just fine for decades you say! Sure, back when they clamped a hose around another piece of metal. The reason they worked being, during the thermal expansion cycle, the rates of expansion and shrinkage of the clamp and the hose nipple were similar enough that it wasn't really a problem. Then we started using aluminum alloys and plastic, they don't expand at the same rate and we started to get leaks. Add to this the more pressurized modern cooling system and it becomes a real problem. The newer spring steel Corbin style constant tension clamps fixed that issue. I've even seen heavy zip ties used as hose clamps at the race track, no tools needed and tearing down for a weekend rebuild is a bit faster. So it really depends what materials your working with. Good video!
@ixionn563
@ixionn563 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is actually a really great point that explains a lot of the debate going on in the comments. Almost every person claiming worm drive is better is referring to applications where I'd think metal radiators are probably used, such as in race cars. I plan to upgrade my truck to a metal radiator at some point and I'll have to keep in mind what clamps will be better based on the material.
@HawaiiJapan808
@HawaiiJapan808 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I never knew this. I always thought the screw drive was better. Makes sense what you said, keep up the videos.
@slowville6637
@slowville6637 3 жыл бұрын
Screw is better, just look at race cars, the spring is just more dummy proof.
@johnnyrebel9986
@johnnyrebel9986 3 жыл бұрын
Screw type is definitely better hoss, no matter what this guy says. I prefer the spring type on large hose's like the lower radiator to water pump or thermostat housing due to their being easier to remove, but on anything small like fuel lines especially anything with high pressure use screw types. Just make sure when you tighten them down that you can get to clamp to remove it or you'll be in a world of hurt.
@dingbop963
@dingbop963 2 жыл бұрын
screw types are defective by design
@conrad13579
@conrad13579 3 жыл бұрын
Best Advice Ever. Thanks for Sharing this.
@garybeharrell3972
@garybeharrell3972 Жыл бұрын
I never thought about this before but plastic radiator hose spouts may contract at a greater rate than steel or aluminum therefore causing this condition mentioned. Also silicon or soft hoses require the clamps with the liner in them that are much better for small hoses. Saying that I agree with the comments that gear clamps have never failed me. Thanks for the video. I makes us think.
@schrodingerscat8621
@schrodingerscat8621 3 жыл бұрын
PS: I really did like the information you provided. I work with them all the time and have seen leaks with those clamps in use, but I’m also questioning the age of the hose at that point. Usually when there is a leak, there is a bunch of crystallize coolant creating a breach in the sealing surface. Which It’s not necessarily the fault of the clamp.
@truesimplicity
@truesimplicity 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I learned something new today. Thank you for your channel
@verinb9
@verinb9 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video. I learned alot. Please keep them coming. 🙏🏾
@omegaman1409
@omegaman1409 9 ай бұрын
That tool is a brilliant idea. I had so many mishaps with vise grips.
@jeanchapman1301
@jeanchapman1301 3 жыл бұрын
In 40 years, I’ve never had one of those clamps leak. Had one come completely loose once on a lower radiator hose, but other than that HUGE leak (emptied the radiator) I have not seen that leakage issue like yours.
@cujoedaman
@cujoedaman 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, they use them all the time in more inexpensive cars, early 2000's Saturn's come to mind. I see them on cars all the time, just not EVERY car. I bet he has a cracked outlet on the radiator and every time he tightens it, the stupid thing just keeps cracking more and leaking further.
@slowville6637
@slowville6637 3 жыл бұрын
Hah so true, it's what I use when I want to make sure the a hose doesn't leak or come off.
@CrashCarson14
@CrashCarson14 3 жыл бұрын
Problem with the constant tension ones is after about 3 times taking it off then it’s worn out and won’t hold tension. Gets loose.
@dodgeramsport01
@dodgeramsport01 3 жыл бұрын
So get a new one!
@adamballinger1358
@adamballinger1358 3 жыл бұрын
I rip all of those " smart" clamps off and use stainless worm gear clamps .The only reason those " smart clamps are used is for ease and speed of assembly . This tool has probably never turned a wrench.
@dingbop963
@dingbop963 2 жыл бұрын
I always throw worm gear clamps in the garbage when I can and replace with spring clamps.
@syroboi3524
@syroboi3524 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, you have opened my eyes
@jorgevega238
@jorgevega238 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely 100% Agree. I dont like those screw type clamps. Factory style clamps are the Best.
@derekbennett5896
@derekbennett5896 3 жыл бұрын
That's crazy, cause I constantly replace spring clamps due to leaking 🤷‍♂️
@mortenhartvigkristiansen7760
@mortenhartvigkristiansen7760 3 жыл бұрын
Pro tip, put it back in the correct position.
@derekbennett5896
@derekbennett5896 3 жыл бұрын
Just for fun what would be the "correct" position on a newly installed hose to keep it from leaking? Or if clamp was leaking from the factory with only 20-30k miles?
@SinsBird
@SinsBird 3 жыл бұрын
@@derekbennett5896 Sounds like you have a wrong size hose and/or wrong size clamp.
@derekbennett5896
@derekbennett5896 3 жыл бұрын
@@SinsBird I'll let the fellas at the factory know they're using the wrong size clamp and or hose
@SinsBird
@SinsBird 3 жыл бұрын
​@@derekbennett5896 Unfortunately they don't listen until there's a lawsuit
@Pesar25
@Pesar25 3 жыл бұрын
Good video thanks, now we have learned this issue also.
@areyouundoingthatorwhat9181
@areyouundoingthatorwhat9181 3 жыл бұрын
Having spent the last nearly forty years in the motor trade I can assure you that most of what's stated in this video is nonsense or completely wrong,spring clamps are used by manufacturers because they are cheap and allow for quicker assembly.
@Cplink420
@Cplink420 3 жыл бұрын
Those one time use clamps are horrible 💀💀
@ohioplayer-bl9em
@ohioplayer-bl9em 3 жыл бұрын
If they are cheaper why don't the dealerships use them? They love money..
@areyouundoingthatorwhat9181
@areyouundoingthatorwhat9181 3 жыл бұрын
@@ohioplayer-bl9em because they like anyone else that has fixed more than one car also know that they are rubbish,fine fitted to a new hose but once the rubber compresses over time then refitting them becomes a matter of exact placement for a fifty fifty chance of proper re-clamping,so rather than take a very solid risk of leakage or opting for sometimes breathtakingly expensive mihose replacement they opt for a better solution.,A bit of corrosion or a non uniform shape of the union or pipe the hose is being clamped to will result in a leak with sprung or even one shot clamps,a worm drive clamp will generally overcome a fair degree of irregularity in the fitting and allow you to apply more clamping force.
@LizardWizard_
@LizardWizard_ 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Thanks for the video 👍🏼
@AlanCooney
@AlanCooney 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!!! The spring clamps are far more efficient on any rubber pipe that goes hot and cold!!! You must make sure they are optimal diameter - so I order these in multiple sizes to get the “right” fit. Only use worm drive on low pressure things like a garden hose.
@freemanwang5871
@freemanwang5871 3 жыл бұрын
Good explanation, detailed, experienced. Keepup the good work. Buddy!
@henrymorgan3982
@henrymorgan3982 3 жыл бұрын
Great information. Thank you!
@jhonnycifuentes6638
@jhonnycifuentes6638 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you making good videos very good information
@SilverCymbal
@SilverCymbal 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@TriCityAikidoCA
@TriCityAikidoCA 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you noticed, but you have 2 links for tools that don't work on the hybrid clamp you linked.
@jonsnow1410
@jonsnow1410 4 күн бұрын
Outstanding video! Thank you!
@tabghani3638
@tabghani3638 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you bro.. I found same problems with many of my customers vehicles ..100 % you are right
@GaryT1952
@GaryT1952 3 жыл бұрын
Another thing I was unaware of....now I know what to use and why👍 Thanks SC
@SilverCymbal
@SilverCymbal 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help
@pjm329
@pjm329 3 жыл бұрын
Spring clamps have been around for years and years. they are not the "new style clamps". In my experience they are just as likely to leak as any other style clamp . And when they do all you can do is replace them. I will continue to use the better worm gear clamps.
@JayOnzs03
@JayOnzs03 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Thank you. I've been doing it wrong for far too long
@Sam-ey1nn
@Sam-ey1nn 3 жыл бұрын
Spring clamps are typically used for dryer exhaust hoses as well. I find them very frustrating as they wear out over time and are a huge pain to get on.
@busterscrugs
@busterscrugs 3 жыл бұрын
I know so many armchair mechanics who hate on spring style clamps because they don't know how to install or remove them easily. I've always preferred them because of their ability to maintain consistent clamping force over time and temperature changes.
@georgegeorgepht
@georgegeorgepht 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a truck driver self thought heavy truck mech and drive from Florida to northern Canada...and I can’t agree with this man more. There is a reason those clamps are used and he is exactly right. I have had “cold water” leaks and took me a while to figure it out. It was the clamps.
@rickj1983
@rickj1983 3 жыл бұрын
Valid point that I never thought of.
@mareks2503
@mareks2503 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you that makes sense i use to use the screw clamps as an replacement next time i am gonna use the original. Also i use locking pliers to remove those clamps it works perfecly
@paulsmith9341
@paulsmith9341 3 жыл бұрын
How do you size these spring clamps?
@matgonsale9781
@matgonsale9781 3 жыл бұрын
You are one of my favorite KZfaqrs - always learning something. Thank you!🙏
@SilverCymbal
@SilverCymbal 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! I really appreciate it
@TheBigRed.
@TheBigRed. 3 жыл бұрын
Your joking right???
@Moh3enJamali
@Moh3enJamali 2 ай бұрын
That was exactly the problem in my car. Great video.
@TurnThemWheels
@TurnThemWheels Жыл бұрын
Interesting , just learned this
@america5365
@america5365 3 жыл бұрын
I've literally never had any leakes or this issue on my truck, And I have old style on most my stuff.
@Hppyzmbie
@Hppyzmbie 3 жыл бұрын
I love these kind of practical tips. Thank you!
@meshark_t
@meshark_t 20 күн бұрын
Nice tip, tnx.
@zefdin101
@zefdin101 9 ай бұрын
Great video / point. Thanks!
@magmajctaz1405
@magmajctaz1405 3 жыл бұрын
I like constant tension clamps. They also make up for changes in the hose over time (ages). But they are difficult to find locally.
@Pinkielover
@Pinkielover 11 ай бұрын
Except they don't...
@fredeschen3783
@fredeschen3783 3 жыл бұрын
I had a similar problem and fixed it successfully with double hose clamps 😂 I like your solution better though
@carlosk8103
@carlosk8103 3 жыл бұрын
Here here... Same... lol
@aleksandartan7057
@aleksandartan7057 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@Gixer750pilot
@Gixer750pilot 3 жыл бұрын
Worm gear clamps, commonly known as jubilee clips as they were invented by an engineer in HMS Jubilee . Now you know !
@asm42
@asm42 3 жыл бұрын
And knowing is half the battle... Forgive me, it's a reflex.
@MrClarkisgod
@MrClarkisgod 3 жыл бұрын
@@asm42 GI JOE..................................
@headbanger1428
@headbanger1428 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! Looks good: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_Clip
@headbanger1428
@headbanger1428 3 жыл бұрын
And even more “Wow!” about hose clamps: “Within the United States, SAE International maintains Specification J1508 for thirty-two different hose clamp designs, including screw, spring, and t-bolt styles. It also maintains Specification J1610 for the testing the sealing of hoses. The US Army TACOM maintains Commercial Item Description (CID) A-A-52506 that provides for the standardized acquisition of hose clamps by the Department of Defense; the CID references the SAE specifications. The CID superseded Federal Specification WW-C-440 for hose clamps in 1994.” SOURCE: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hose_clamp
@marksmith1916
@marksmith1916 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh the jubilee clip.
@keithdufour8264
@keithdufour8264 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tip. I just replaced a couple houses and used those clamps. I’ll replace them now
@dingbop963
@dingbop963 2 жыл бұрын
Don't waste your time with worm gear clamps. They're a bad design. Uneven clamping pressure around the circumference of the hose and they loosen up.
@woodlandburl6648
@woodlandburl6648 3 жыл бұрын
good point that I didn't think of.
@BIGGBULLxxx
@BIGGBULLxxx 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks this is good to know for me👍👍
@saidtheblueknight
@saidtheblueknight 3 жыл бұрын
Those red clamps are the absolute devil. I replace all of mine anytime I take them off. I've been using worm clamps on my race cars and hi-po street cars for 27 years and I've never had them fail on me. The issue is not the clamps themselves or the design, it's almost always user error.
@Grant82gc
@Grant82gc 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the same mate, the clamps he recommended are fucked.
@Grant82gc
@Grant82gc 3 жыл бұрын
Never had the issue he described.
@iFixJunk
@iFixJunk 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. He must have invested in those "smart" clamps.
@dingbop963
@dingbop963 2 жыл бұрын
Do you not count leaking as a failure?
@danven1256
@danven1256 3 жыл бұрын
The spring clamp is a great design. After 40 years of using them on imports I found that they rarely leak. The most important thing though is selecting the proper size. If you select too large of a clamp you won't have the proper tension and it will leak.
@timothyball3144
@timothyball3144 3 жыл бұрын
This is the problem with spring clamps. If you replace a hose and it's a different OD then the original clamp won't work and finding the correct clamp is difficult. Maybe somewhere is an assortment box of spring clamps.
@knocksensor3203
@knocksensor3203 3 жыл бұрын
Yes ,that’s why they come in different sizes
@timothyball3144
@timothyball3144 3 жыл бұрын
So I did some searching and there are spring clamps assortment, but the biggest one only goes to 22 mm. I'm not sure what to do about bigger sizes.
@dingbop963
@dingbop963 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothyball3144 You can take em off cars in the junk yard. Plenty of selection there.
@timothyball3144
@timothyball3144 2 жыл бұрын
@Ding Bop That is true. But which clamp is the right one for which hose? I just can't imagine myself making the time to go to a junk yard, removing hose clamps, measuring the hose, noting which clamp fits which hose, organizing them into their proper sizes in an organizer then making the space to store those organizers. I can see how spring clamps are superior when it comes to proper clamping pressure, but when it comes to usability, they suck.
@BucktailFishing
@BucktailFishing Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. The constant tension clamps can be a little cantankerous to get on and off but I've never had one leak. I do keep some worm gear clamps in my portable tool kit for emergencies, but in the end another constant tension is going back on.
@normcarguy4571
@normcarguy4571 Жыл бұрын
You are so right i had the same thing happen to me
@jimgallagher6310
@jimgallagher6310 3 жыл бұрын
Learn something new every day. Thanks and this makes perfect sense.
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