New build houses around here have ionisation smoke detectors right next to the kitchen causing false alarms when cooking. Here's an easy way to resolve the problem.
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@geezer44442 жыл бұрын
oh just change the unit so thats how to fix it you ar,,,,,,,,,,e and your a technician? no way
@dsesuk2 жыл бұрын
As a technician, I can indeed inform you that if you have the wrong type of alarm installed, then it will sound off when you cook your dinner. Let me know where I'm losing you Mel.
@geezer44442 жыл бұрын
@@dsesuk so to just change the unit is NOT fixing when your tap won't stop dripping you can change the o ring you don't have to change the tap, get my drift. but from your answer there is no fix except get a new one
@dsesuk2 жыл бұрын
@@geezer4444 The crux of the issue here isn't "my tap has developed a fault", it's more along the lines of "my builder is a cheap prick who installed a smoke alarm that was inappropriate for the layout of my abode because it cost less for them to do it that way even if they knew it would cause me nuisance as I go about my day". The fix, if you have something inappropriate for the situation, is often to replace it with something more suitable I'm afraid.
@girlfriendandboyfriend42082 жыл бұрын
@@dsesuk luckily your a technician
@zedzed10462 жыл бұрын
Fitted 8 to my other halves semi detached bunglow during a loft upgrade, sold at screwfix about 6 years ago, (not aico), 10 year life, 5 year guarantee, near five years would go off randomly at midnight, 2,4 in the mornings, just random times, never got to the bottom o of it, fitted so many due to idiot cadle burners ( my pet hate, just not worth the risk) even with no candles being burnt they would go out, binned 5 seems to have settled down until I get the Aicos fitted, spoke to technical, still never got to the bottom of it.
@JIMBO84723 жыл бұрын
Sick of these things going off. I wanna fry a steak it goes off, I wanns bake a pizza it goes off, I wanna make some toast it goes off. I wanna make a stew it goes off. The stress that these things cause will kill me quicker than a fire will. As a smoker I make sure things are out completely. Let people cook their food in peace. There is such a thing as an alarm that is too sensitive.
@nrg-50032 жыл бұрын
You have a useless ionization type alarm which is only good for annoying people, throw it away and get an optical or even better multisensor type from a good brand like aico, i use the ei2110e and never had one false alarm.
@kirstenwalsh2789 Жыл бұрын
Mine does the same but with the addition of going off from taking a shower. It's right outside the bathroom in the hall way. I have to wait before I open the bathroom door cause they'll all go off. Super annoying!
@freepalestine964511 ай бұрын
Mine literally went off cos my sister was using hair dryer to dry her hair fs
@NxthannHD7 жыл бұрын
Another bit of handy knowledge to have. Nice to know Donna in the comment section appreciated the video lmao. Thanks David!
@markandrews84375 жыл бұрын
As a stage 3 adult trainee these vids are spot on mate keep them coming and thanks for sharing
@akromz29994 жыл бұрын
I was cooking eggs it starts the Alarm wtf
@taylorbell86894 жыл бұрын
We have one in our dining room, right next to our kitchen (in an apartment) and i was making toast and it went off...in a toaster. No smoke at all... also went off while boiling a potato... midnight, 4am 6am 6pm literally allllll day no matter when I’m making, drives me nuts
@AnnoyDroid Жыл бұрын
Well that is what has been happening in our "new build" ( 7 years old now ) just making toast and the alarm keeps going off. Luckily ours is not jammed in with the lights so it can be switched off. Which is what I would do as I grew up in the 70's when most people had common sense. Cheers David great video and informative as usually, thank you.
@Claggyt2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video - very useful. I was thinking of getting rid of the alarm altogether but I'll have a go at switching it first. Cheers!
@martiatkins4376 жыл бұрын
Thanks David; dead useful to a L2 apprentice as I fitted a set of these on 3C&E in a new build. As noted elsewhere, sorry Donna didn't see the point ;)
@dsesuk7 жыл бұрын
I say new build houses are to grade D LD3 for minimum protection, of course I should have said LD2 as the inclusion of a heat alarm in the kitchen or any other 'higher risk' area is mandatory for new builds.
@JimWhitaker3 жыл бұрын
My kitchen has two, one of each type. The ionisation alarm is mounted in the ceiling which is about 15 feet above floor level. It goes off for any normal cooking which is not just boiling water. Too high for me to reach and change so a button on the end of the sky-light pole has to be deployed. Don't know what I will do when the battery needs replacing.
@ericthekingthekingtheking4842 Жыл бұрын
Hi David Please can you tell me can i add a optical alarm to the kids bedroom that is linked to the others in the house ? Do i just run a 3 core from existing
@antonios49264 жыл бұрын
Hi David. Have u any experience with Smoke Beam detectors? Do they work, any preference on make?
@markpunt96384 жыл бұрын
Brilliant thank you - in desperation I squirted in expanding foam which did the trick but I would probably sleep better at night if I changed it for the right kind.
@SAMHAlN2 жыл бұрын
I got a ei136 when i moved in I never installed it what should I replace it with
@munirshafi26472 жыл бұрын
I've just had an electrician fit these in my house...they are brand new...one heat in the kitchen and two optical in hall and landing. The one in the hall keeps going off intermittently and setting off the others. Is it a faulty unit as I can't get the electrician back to sort it as he said they are brand new !
@ralphsalmon79034 жыл бұрын
Hi David, I know this was a while back, but i found the video helpful. I have both a heat alarm and ionised alarm right above the oven and hobs and its a nightmare. Would you recommend replacing both with the optic alarms?
@dsesuk4 жыл бұрын
Hi Ralph. I wouldn't change out the heat alarm, but if the ionisation alarm is giving you a headache when you're cooking, then switching it to an optical model should help to reduce the problem. If it's poorly placed however, then the problem may not be entirely eliminated. For the cost, it may be worth a try rather than pulling the thing off the ceiling entirely!
@dave230245 ай бұрын
I have a Kidde smoke detector, and that thing goes off the second I put something in the oven. It's enough to drive a person crazy. I've never even heard of one that was so sensitive. Funny thing is, it's right next to the bathroom and the steam has never set it off.
@trimester15 жыл бұрын
Is it worth having one of each (ionisation and optical) in the house? Optical downstairs and ionisation upstairs?
@lewisbrand4 жыл бұрын
Forget the ionisation alarms, an LD3 system ( Life preservation , Domestic, category 3 basic protection ) is typically two smoke detectors in the circulation space, one in the downstairs hallway, one above the upstairs landing, mains wired with battery backup and interlinked so that if one sounds, the other does as well.
@ryans4132 жыл бұрын
God mines why too sensitive all you gotta do is open the oven door and then thing goes off.
@angelallen92664 жыл бұрын
is the base of the Ionisation alarm the same as the optical one? Ie, is it a straight swap without disconnecting the wiring?
@dsesuk4 жыл бұрын
On the Aico EI series, yes it's the same base.
@Richard-fv7rq4 жыл бұрын
Never easy to slide the lower section off at 2am in the morning when the beep is going off! Does the low battery beep stop beeping after 20 mins you say? Thanks....
@dsesuk4 жыл бұрын
Funny how the low battery warning always sounds at 2 AM! I don't think it does stop after twenty minutes I'm afraid.
@amandawalker30364 жыл бұрын
Hi I have the optical one in my hallway and it always goes off when I'm cooking:( It now needs replacing so I have purchased a new one but I also want to replace the back plate as it's not as white any more. Do you have a video on disconnecting the back plate and reconnecting a new one?
@dsesuk4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear of the bother Amanda. I've no video on replacing the back-plate I'm afraid. It'll be secured with one or more screws into the ceiling, and there may be one or two cables feeding the thing. One might be a two-core cable providing a supply line and neutral (red/black or brown/blue in the UK plus a protective core in a green/yellow sheath), while the other would be a three-core cable going to the next smoke alarm with red/yellow/blue or brown/black/grey cores plus the protective conductor. With the three-core cable, the red or brown would be line, and neutral should be blue or grey, but the installer may have used the yellow or black cores. The third colour would be the interconnect to the next smoke alarm. It's important not to miswire the thing or your smoke alarms would be the ones doing the smoking. If the alarm you're changing is at the end of the chain, then there may be just the one cable feeding it. You also need to be aware that there are two kinds of base; the standard one and a radio base for installations where running cables isn't practical. A radio base would just have a supply cable, no three-core. All in all, it's a quick and easy job for a sparkie, but it can be a bit hairy if you don't know your wiring colours. You could cut the power, flip off the cable cover and take careful note of which wire goes into what terminal, but only undertake such work if you're comfortable with it and are confident to take it on. I can't speak for you of course, and I would always recommend you engage the services of a professional, but then I would say that!
@okaro65953 жыл бұрын
They should come with a remote that you ca use to silence it. When people climb to chairs to silence them that can cause accidents. An optical alarm will beep if you burn your food. Also if you an silence them remotely you are less likely to just yank the thing down.
@dptransportvideos27523 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. I think Aico do a remote switch which has the ability to mute the alarms.
@kaywells46343 жыл бұрын
Can the optical one fit on to the ceiling base of the other one ?
@dptransportvideos27523 жыл бұрын
Yes it can
@neverowns6 жыл бұрын
Took me a few moments to realise this wasn’t greg davies
@dsesuk6 жыл бұрын
I'm much shorter and arguably less entertaining to watch.
@RWATraineeElectrician4 жыл бұрын
Handy tip!!! 👍
@allangardiner96616 жыл бұрын
I have ionisation ones in bedroom Optical in the hallway and living Room and heat one in kitchen
@gd-bq7em Жыл бұрын
Hi David need some info mate, Friend of mine trying to sell his house and they said his smoke alarms need to be linked, currently wired on the same circuit live neutral and earth no way of getting a interlink wire between them, what wired smoke alarms are best that can talk to each other wireless ly thanks
@dsesuk Жыл бұрын
We favour Aico's and avoid FireAngel. If there's no interlink, they can buy radio bases. Not cheap, but it'll get 'em talking.
@gd-bq7em Жыл бұрын
i would need to buy 2 new smoke alarms david so would each smoke alarm require its own radio base ( so 2 radio bases ) Thanks
@dsesuk Жыл бұрын
@@gd-bq7em I'm afraid so. You would then pair them to talk to each other.
@gd-bq7em Жыл бұрын
@@dsesuk thanks David, they flagged a few problem one was the consumer unit so I changed that other was cooker hood needed venting to out side so did that, now when he came its the smokes, Will get there eventually, thanks for the advise buddy, loved the new video watched it all, thought you handled the situation great, I've had some crazy customers being from Birmingham way but that was unreal, you was lucky to leave there alive she was a big un lol 😆 😀
@TheGreat1852 жыл бұрын
David is looking smart with his new haircut. FRESH
@AndyK.12 жыл бұрын
Just when he was younger and polite.
@killedbylatency36845 жыл бұрын
With this I can finally stop alerting people of burnt toast. Or putting bags over smoke alarms
@jonpreece53504 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much much appreciation I was about to hit my smoke alarm with a hammer
@MaxsTrainspotting6 жыл бұрын
I have 1 smoka alarm in my flat it is na ei141 ionisitation version
@nelsonandsooticaa3 жыл бұрын
Can you help please? Our mains connected alarm - don't know the brand - keeps going off in the middle of the night. This is the third night and tonight it's happened 4 times in the last 40 minutes. We've changed the batteries but it hasn't helped.
@dptransportvideos27523 жыл бұрын
That could be a sign the detector is contaminated e.g. an insect got inside the smoke chamber. The detector would therefore need to be replaced.
@jamesl80533 жыл бұрын
Ours broke a few years ago and wouldn’t stop chirping, the mechanism to release was also jammed so I had to punch it off, i wouldn’t recommend it tbh but i have very sharp hearing and it drove me mad, I now have a large scar on my knuckle as the plastic is quite thick and sharp when it shatters. We did replace it though lol always better safe than sorry with these but drastic times call for violent actions... or something like that.
@Richardincancale2 жыл бұрын
You looked five years younger five years ago!!
@Hermiel3 ай бұрын
Interlinked alarms are the bane of my tenant life. When a particular alarm goes off there neeeds to be a delay before the other alams are triggered because 99.99999% of the time it's a nuissance alarm caused by cooking and the whole goddamn building doesn't need to know about it.
@dandare25865 жыл бұрын
I have a Stuart Milne house and the and the slightest over cooking of toast causes the alarm system to trigger......in the mornings you can hear a cocophony of smoke alarms going off around the neighbourhood, very funny, I guess the optical alarm was a few pence more :(
@lewisbrand4 жыл бұрын
Ionisation alarms are a waste of time, typically a optical alarm costs two to three times as much
@xiongedison97927 жыл бұрын
I don't have any of them but I do have a different kind.
@immortalsun2 жыл бұрын
You could play solid music with one of these bad boys. Someone should start a band and use a smoke detector as an instrument!
@mrsecurity4 жыл бұрын
Wow never new that
@AndyK.14 жыл бұрын
Oh a young David 😂
@rasmussrensen31845 жыл бұрын
I have an optic in my New apt. And the damn thing goes off when i cook anything in the oven that “smokes” LIKE a roast chicken. It went off twice right now...
@lewisbrand4 жыл бұрын
Change it for a heat detector category A1. A fire alarm that goes off all the time as a false alarm is useless.
@stevejeffries16034 жыл бұрын
I appreciate safety But there a menace. In the old days all you had to do was take the battery out. The manufacturers who still have not got it sorted have now made it so you cant do that or undo it I'm getting very tempted to just smash the dam things up Complete piles of crap
@PegsNaptime7 жыл бұрын
I Have That Smoke Alarm
@myNFPTV4 жыл бұрын
Find out more at: www.SmokeAlarmWarning.org Australian legislation (Queensland and the Northern Territory) and legislation in Zealand and some U.S. States mandates the use of photoelectric smoke alarms. Many authorities advise photoelectric alarms are "better" but for legal and political reasons are not allowed to warn that there is anything wrong with ionization alarms. However, in 2016 Australia's most senior fire official representing all fire brigades across Australia and New Zealand went public warning that "ionization smoke alarms should be banned". See his warning on Australian TV and discover for yourself why ionization smoke alarms should be banned: www.SmokeAlarmWarning.org
@jacobplayzclassics4 жыл бұрын
Is ionization a brittish young twister because in America we spell "ionisation" ionization
@dsesuk4 жыл бұрын
Both are valid in British English, but there are all sorts of things you spell incorrectly over there.
@jacobplayzclassics4 жыл бұрын
Well i mean I guess it all depends where you're from and I speak with no accent but anyway those alarms are more safe because of the 240 instead of 120 over here but your federal government didn't make a struck pulseating law like we did in 1999 for a code 3 instead of a continus or a rapid beeping some that ive seen have been a rapid beeping and some ive seen are code 3. Also ive noticed that the mounting bracket Typicaly has a hole where you insert a screwdriver and then is able to remove it while here in America we are able to just twist the smoke alarm off ... Lots of differences
@johndufton96865 жыл бұрын
Aico only recommend Optical alarms for hall and landings. I only fit the alarms with lithium cells that don't have to be changed as I usually find customers rip the damn things off the ceiling if they have to replace batteries.
@DONK80085 жыл бұрын
I tried to replace the battery on one of these things and I pushed the screwdriver too hard and it flung off into a mop bucket. So yes, we do in face fuck up trying to replace the battery
@yaminceja37712 жыл бұрын
I have this alarm that are just annoying literally I amd cooking amd it just goes wild what can I do
@riddlr63583 жыл бұрын
So ...did I miss something? Did he ever say how to stop the smoke alarm or turn it off after the alarm went off? Or is the solution to just get another smoke detector?
@lloydchristmas89314 жыл бұрын
I miss your hat. :( Very informative video. Thanks
@lewisbrand4 жыл бұрын
I like Aico smoke alarms, but no way would I fit an ionisation one, optical are much better . I work as a fire alarm engineer and ionisation alarms are just a no no these days, optical and heat alarms are all I fit , with some combined with CO if there is an open flame heat source such as a log burner present. The latest Aico alarms have a built in non changeable lithium battery rather than a 9 volt replacable
@adraf752 жыл бұрын
Hi Dawid.. Just a question . Electrician installed a new Ei 141RC. and the red light is flashing. He said us faulty , I went to shop and changed it again and still flashing. I just watched your video , after 20 min red should disappear?. Is that correct. Many Thanks for your help.
@baggybantan71402 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you show what to do with a beeping optical? I can't see access to a battery anywhere
@PegsNaptime7 жыл бұрын
I Have the 1st one
5 жыл бұрын
There’s nuisance trips with the optical ones as well. I have one in a hallway thats just outside the bathroom door and i’ve had the thing trigger just from me opening the bathroom door after a shower and the steam hitting it causes it to get squawking as well. Or, as was much more annoying, vaping in the adjacent room and having the vapor from that come near it as well. I have an ionising one in the kitchen and with the fume hood on while cooking, its fine. Without it, however, screeching and a mad scramble to push the button...
5 жыл бұрын
@Cupid Stunt they have the hush buttons, its just annoying when i forget about it and have to stretch up to it to shut it up.
@lewisbrand4 жыл бұрын
Never have anything but a heat alarm in a kitchen
@garethdavis54915 жыл бұрын
I have one of them
@abandondacc3 жыл бұрын
🙂
@martingowland22804 жыл бұрын
Was dior upset he was sacked .as can see it over your shoulder
@dsesuk4 жыл бұрын
Dior sacked me in the end and went on to greater things!
@martingowland22804 жыл бұрын
@@dsesuk oh was that the footballer
@dsesuk4 жыл бұрын
@@martingowland2280 That's the boi
@sirronnitram89374 жыл бұрын
Another solution is to only eat takeaways
@Chequr_Prostate4 жыл бұрын
Great alarms but they need bring out a slimline range. They really are ugly.
@garethdavis54915 жыл бұрын
i can't tell if I have one of them
@reneeb53924 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh sounds from the box u should move the mic my ears hurt lol
@amazingsupergirl7125 Жыл бұрын
My ceilings are very high so changing batteries is a nightmare
@finanzferdinand9874 Жыл бұрын
Not convinced
@AntimatePcCustom2 жыл бұрын
Im here because i have a firealarm that is hooked to the main. So I don't even have battery to take out 😢
@beardyface84924 жыл бұрын
Or just put a shower cap over it.
@Fuzzywuzzywasawoman3 жыл бұрын
My alarm keeps churping every few minutes, how do i stop this. Theres no battery,
@niascaife60643 жыл бұрын
It will continue to do that without a battery on
@mindyschocolate2 жыл бұрын
It’s chirping because there’s no battery. Put one in. If it still chirps, it may be super dusty.
@CommodoreJ2 жыл бұрын
I yanked mine off the wall and threw it in the bathroom and it stopped
@harveylinney5 ай бұрын
Didn’t tell anyone how to stop it randomly bleeping whilst cooking. 😂😂
@skadihuntress6 жыл бұрын
i burnt my toast and it went off ffs
@akashane1875 жыл бұрын
You burn your toast because the damn thing went off as you spend 5 more mins trying to stop the alarm
@finanzferdinand9874 Жыл бұрын
Used to just press the button and it would stop. These are awful.
@georgethomas2876 жыл бұрын
Have you sacked dior yet
@dsesuk6 жыл бұрын
Sadly he left of his own accord to move on to greater things and now plays for Port Vale in Division 2! Fancy giving up a career in the trades to punt a ball around!
@georgethomas2876 жыл бұрын
David Savery Electrical Services its just that the board said "sack doir"
@akashane1875 жыл бұрын
My bastad alarm is wired in
@tpstrato22704 жыл бұрын
wow guess I got the wrong site lol
@NapoleonDynamites4 жыл бұрын
I have the "better" ones in my house and they are just as shite.
@dtec303 жыл бұрын
Wow 2016
@dsesuk3 жыл бұрын
That was back in the days when I made videos I figured only my neighbours and direct customers may find useful. After all, it's not like anyone would be interested in watching an electrician talking about the job!
@dtec303 жыл бұрын
@@dsesuk oh contrare as an old electronics enthusiast I had a friend whose dad was a commercial sparky (fr Mayfield- now no longer) and I was always fascinated by his stories
@kristenortiz13856 жыл бұрын
M . D
@donnaseeback15277 жыл бұрын
What the fuck ever... How can I stop my smoke alarm from going off when I am searing meat, or broiling. GET TO THE POINT!
@dsesuk7 жыл бұрын
Short answer: change it for a better one.
@kylehill36432 жыл бұрын
@@dsesuk That took WAY less time to say then 6 mins of (Paid) PR.
@jamesmy60445 жыл бұрын
I have no smoke alarm so I don't care for false alarms
@dr.bottomuptruthahmed618911 ай бұрын
you talk too fast plz
@kerrybaker49796 жыл бұрын
Sorry, couldn't understand a word you were saying, you need to slow down when you talk.
@dsesuk6 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry you had trouble deciphering my waffle Manny.
@kerrybaker49796 жыл бұрын
No I'm sorry, it's not your fault I can't understand your accent, thanks for your reply anyway.