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@birdtj82 Жыл бұрын
Big fan. Apologize for my early miss understanding. Forwardly u have my utter support :) 😊 thx for the great videos!
@fabicdes Жыл бұрын
@stopthefomo So after watching this, what is the best Led TV made until today?
@michael-4k4000 Жыл бұрын
Where can I pick up a couple of those LG MICRO LED, the $90k ones, need at least two!
@michael-4k400010 ай бұрын
X90l or X95L?
@spyplane39799 ай бұрын
what is better pc gaming tv with 3080 nvidia gpu?
@TechWithKG Жыл бұрын
Great video, I thought you explained the misconception of Mini LED always being better than regular FALD TVs quite well, I saw this first hand when the QN90A and Q90T were placed next to each other the Q90T showed more detail and slightly more blooming but the QN90A crushed details to hide blooming and get closer to acting like an OLED in most scenes I thought the Q90T held up better because important details got lost on the QN90A. Also its more about the algorithm than the the amount of zones and you covered that very well.
@birdtj82 Жыл бұрын
Q90T was d BEST. Its like ART. QN90A was nice tho. I did NOT have issue with it when I saw in store. Maybe u could try to tweak it. Seeing something in store is never accurate!!! I saw Hisense U8G 65” beside QN90A, LG CX, SONY A90J….the CX A90J looked AWEFUL AWEFUL AWEFUL, but Hisense LOOKED WORSE--at fisrt. I had to hunt down the employee to ask him to change to --STandard mode. He had on --Energy Saving mode. N back light on 💯, black level(brightness) set to 50%. And then i found d Samsung QN90A. I moved around its setting, it looked Great. N d doughy guy in store they were --really agreesive so bitchy that I went straight asking for U8G n QN90A. He kept berating the technology n brand, n kept trying to pulllme to look at OLED, n LG QNED. Ughhhhhh. 😮 U might want to re visit the store, get remotes first. Cuz they really are trying to promote LG QNED(cuz they a re not selling). N some other OLED (they get much higher commission).
@michaelwyckoff7593 Жыл бұрын
I agree KG with you 😊
@marksalamon61911 ай бұрын
If TV manufacturers were serious about producing LCD TVs that catch up with OLED displays, they would be implementing and improving the "Dual Cell" technology that Hisense introduced in 2021. In the Hisense U9DG Dual Cell TV, a 1080p black and white panel was placed behind the 4K RGB panel. This functionally provided the TV with over 2 MILLION "local dimming zones", and as the tests in the RTINGS review demonstrated, the results were spectacular. The Dual Cell TV nearly equaled OLED displays in Contrast, Black Uniformity, Blooming, and Wide Viewing Angle. The Dual Cell TV was discontinued (probably because it cost more than other Hisense models) but this LCD technology has the potential to be a highly competitive rival to OLED TVs.
@asole10010 ай бұрын
Maybe because if they gave it their all they would run out of things to improve upon.
@truthseeker5079 Жыл бұрын
Mini LED can tend to crush a lot of detail in favor of getting an inky image. Sony's approach is subtle. Sony isn't the brightest or blackest, but there's more information in the image, so the result is an image that stands out and has more depth.
@michaelbeckerman7532 Жыл бұрын
Exactly correct. And, just as Sony will always tell you, they make their design decisions with the creator's intent in mind. They want you to see everything that the creator of the content wanted you to see. This is one reason why Sony's consistently provide a much better overall viewing experience than their competitors - regardless of the content you are watching.
@michaelzoran Жыл бұрын
@@michaelbeckerman7532 Sony needs to start making decisions based on the fact that it is the intent of the creator for people to be able to see their content without being forced to take out a loan on their home in order to buy a TV. Sony's products are ridiculously overpriced - the point that it represents price gouging. TCL and Hisense offer similar performance for prices that are much better. This is the benefit of competition in sales. Sony is no longer a sales leader, because of the terrible prices of Sony's TV sets.
@lancealex382 Жыл бұрын
Honestly oleds have the same issue, there's still crushed blacks too often but with certain content the black contrast can look stunning and you don't get that with the balanced 'sony' approach you allude to'. That said, there is absolutely a place for this balance and I can understand why people opt for it.
@henrywinters9496 Жыл бұрын
Sony have Mini LED too
@michaelzoran Жыл бұрын
@@lancealex382 OLEDs have a couple problems. First, the "Burn-In" risk is very real - regardless of what anyone says. If you watch a lot of CNN or Fox News all day, you will eventually end up with "Burn-In" from those colors always being in the same spot. Second, the "Fast Response Times" of OLED helps the videogames with "High Framerates," such as First-Person Shooters and Racing games. However, the "Fast Response Times" of OLED actually has the inverse effect that HURTS the low-framerate movies on Blu-ray, which run at only 24 frames per second. This creates problems with Stuttering, Juddering, and Shimmery in high-speed "Movement" scenes.
@Jack_Sparrow13110 ай бұрын
As owner of Sony X900h ("55" 2020) 4k 120Hz model (FALD).. which costs $1200 back in early 2021 I can say Sony TVs are superior overall, especially for 90 series & above.. But their price is outragoues.. X90L (65 in) is $1800 in middle east, while TCL 745C (65 in) is like $900 Videos always show cheap U.S prices.. while Euro, Asia, Africa..etc have always have higher prices for Sony I don't care what Sony could bring to the table as long their prcices are 2x, I won't buy from them again
@robertoboss35209 ай бұрын
Yes !!!
@ExecuteOrder66Jack Жыл бұрын
That starfield test is very revealing. Glad I made the switch to oled years ago and haven’t looked back
@robertweekes57839 ай бұрын
It’s not just software - the Sony X90L’s are using their best processor, the same one used in the mini LED & OLED models (which cost 1.5 - 3X as much)
@WigWoo18 ай бұрын
Just bought the QM8 today. I cant wait!
@truthseeker5079 Жыл бұрын
To be honest the X90L is the best upgrade you can make in the mid level tv race. They raised the zone count significantly, it's the best pound for pound upgrade for them from 2022 to 2023.
@user-oq4rm5ci9p Жыл бұрын
Are you joking? 20 dimming zones is not "significantly".
@Krynale Жыл бұрын
@@user-oq4rm5ci9p You misslead, the X90K 65inch had 40 zones now the X90L 65inch has 80 zones. Year-over-year a double zone count is a great improvement. WheneverSony carefully increases zones count they make sure that accuracy remains and no picture detail is left behind, unlike the brute force of other manufacturers. There are no perfect tv's, so shop what you like, really.
@user-oq4rm5ci9p Жыл бұрын
@@Krynale You are wrong. X90k has 60 zones. +20 zones is almost nothing
@michaelbeckerman7532 Жыл бұрын
@@user-oq4rm5ci9p not with a Sony and an XR Cognitive processor it isn't. Remember, the XR is the most advanced processor of ANY TV you can buy today. A big part of that is because of the software running inside that processor. The better the software, the more accurately you can control the backlighting. What makes Sony so much better at what it does is really its ability to not only bring superior image processing to the table, but also to bring superior backlight control as well. This is why, just like the video shows, Sony is able to "do more with less". Now, if you need more than that, they offer the mini-LED based X93L. And, as you can imagine, with mini-LED's and its approximately 800 local dimming zones (along with the XR processor) it does everything even better still. That TV is almost indistinguishable from OLED displays in many cases.
@WiZZle_5029 ай бұрын
I just purchased the Sony X90L 75" and it is amazing 🔥🔥🔥
@Sey357 Жыл бұрын
SONY ❤️ 🇯🇵 👑
@LeezahB Жыл бұрын
Wow, Fomo!! Excellent video - I learned so much! You made it so easy to see and understand. Thank you!
@stopthefomo Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for watching!
@gomezwardulus4192 Жыл бұрын
Had two oleds loved them, got burn so oled can piss off forever now. Mini led is good enough for me. Got the 65in x95l and absolutely love it and I have no fear of burn in. Win win
@stopthefomo Жыл бұрын
LUCKY MAN. The Sony X95L is definitely a landmark accomplishment for Sony - it took them long enough but this is the TV that should've been labeled "Backlight Master Drive" rather than the X95K
@gomezwardulus4192 Жыл бұрын
@@stopthefomo it’s such a fantastic tv, lucky I live in Europe so have a lot of size option and didn’t have to get a ridiculous 85” size like USA.
@Crissy.P Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of getting the 65'' around black Friday
@birdsteak926711 ай бұрын
@@gomezwardulus4192 I am a European opting for 85, but that is because I set up my living room like a Cinema and i have the wall for it. If I lived in the UK i would opt for 50 inch Max, considering how tight the space for housing can be over there.
@user-oq4rm5ci9p Жыл бұрын
X90L is not bad for SDR content. But in HDR raised blacks and light leakage to blacks bars will be very annoying. Me
@Scientist_SalarianАй бұрын
This is the best short-form explanation of different screen types I’ve seen yet. In a world saturated with overly-verbose videos, I appreciate how precise you are in your choice of words!
@21777gabriel5 ай бұрын
excellent explanation,finally someone said it ,i had qled full array etc and always knew im loosing many details and for what,just to say i have some kind of black level more? anyways ,i gave my qled to my brother and grab a sony full array tv and honestly the viewing experience is far better and black is black just fine. Oled was and will be the target but since im doing everything from pc,my only road is led tvs. qleds are great either mini leds or not mini leds just as we are on full array class but sony has that little something that makes things much better on picture quality and overall quality is at high level on everything and thats why they are more pricey.
@michaelzoran Жыл бұрын
QUESTION: There is a a comparison between the Hisense UK7 model vs the Sony X90L online. In this comparison, there is a Starfield test. The UK7 model does not suffer from the "Too Black" problems the TCL QM8 suffers from in the FOMO video. In fact, the U7K actually has superior blacks that are deeper than the Sony X90L while simultaneously displaying more of the white stars - similar to the way an OLED is superior to the X90L. Can you confirm this, Fomo in the specific test you show here at the end of your video?
@meowmixes98 Жыл бұрын
I actually watched this from my new Sony X90L. I previously had two TCL Q7'S that buzzed and reached out to you on Twitter (thank you by the way). I originally wanted a QM8 after watching you test it out but they didn't have a 55 inch. I ultimately went back to Sony (I had a Sony 900f after a 900e died just outside of the one year warranty). I've been very impressed with the Sony X90L. It's handling of low bit rate content I imagine is much better than the QM8 which should tip it for anyone watching cable TV which can vary per channel, per show or even per commercial. I do think this year's TCL remote is much more comfortable and the soft buttons are great. I also had a issue with VRR while playing Borderlands 3 on the Q7 that makes me wonder if it is present on the QM8. Turning on VRR for that specific game made it look like nighttime and the colors shifted everywhere when you used the stick. One area I think Sony needs to improve is the game bar. Other companies offer more features with their game bar. Additionally, gamers want gaming TVs with more picture adjustments as it's not always about lower response times for us. But overall, I'm supremely happy that I ended up with the Sony X90L over the Hisense U8K, TCL Q7 and QM8 or even last year's Samsung QN90B that I was considering. I don't see myself leaving the Sony nest for a long time. Lol The color and clarity are the first things you notice.
@birdtj82 Жыл бұрын
X90L has blooming . It’s like unfair to u tho. It’s like someone wanna buy suppped up Honda Accord, but its sold out, so they are like :”i end up buying Honda civic (cheaper model but close enough). It’s trash so i returned it buying a BMW X3. “ I am so glad i did d switch. i am glad i did not buy HOnda Accord. “ If NOT buy QM8/U8K/QN90B , judging Q7 to translate “UN predictable” U8K QN90B experience, it’s NOT --accurate prediction how much u would experienced. 7-8 is HUGE jump in d user end experience!!! 3 yrs in a row i have seen HIsense 7-8 HUGE gap in visual, Same as TCL. IF I someone buy -iPhone 14, because they WANTED 14-pro. But d 14PRO was 2 weeks wait, sold out. They end up buying d (none pro) 14: “ugh i dont like iPhone 14 , i wish i stick with my Samsung Flagship $1500phone, i will NOT bother buying iPhone 14-pro, i wont bother with any iPhone in the future” but NEVER bought d -14 pro. 🎉glad u enjoy yr tv. But Def NOT fair comprasing to QM8 , QN90B or U8k. :P
@michaeldavis6550 Жыл бұрын
Sure it's fair because these budget brands are now claiming to be as good as the big boys at a cheaper price & yea they check some boxes but the over all quality & dependability isn't there but now thier prices are Wright up there within a couple hundred dollars from Sony & Samsung. So in the end if you wanna play with the big boys then you better be able hold your own in comparison. So bottom line is its a very fair comparison.
@birdtj82 Жыл бұрын
@@michaeldavis6550 i know what u are saying I have seen it in store last week U8K 75” NO blooming. X90L HAS blooming for that itself …sel visual self telling. Even Brian’s Tech Therpay video shows it. Sever Blomng against U8K. D Big boys means the Boy boys flagship panel X95K X95L. Getting runner down Q7. Judging the U8K Qm8, QN90B over SONY X90L is really not accurate presentation. As if its like ppl want to get QD-OLED from SoNY, but they cant afford so they get like d lower tier MINI LED”ewrr 700nit peak, blooming …HELL NO, i wont do sony” its diff panel. Yeah if QM7 did NOT workout , u find Better panel --great. But usign that QM7 to dictate /predict the OUT come of QN90B, Qm8, U8K is very……subjective . It’s a interesting thinking pattern. Often guys in dating pool do that too. They cant find HOT gf. So they will TESt on “normies” to see how “women are like” n using -that -as land mark to “predict” if girls that are PRETTIER -WILL be (WORSEN). Never knew a lot of sub 5/Normie women who never dated, or used to be jealous, covert narccist , actually attention seeker/secret gold digger, --MORE prone to Monkey branching, or being Seduced by other men. So those guys get BURNED …n thinking”okay this type of average looking woman so jealous/vindictive/snappy. Then pretty girls much be WORSE! So i am going to hate on Pretty women cuz they must be high maintance n snappy. “ Dude u see what i am saying…we cant use 1 thing/to fill 1 narrritve to broad cast reverse that value to the rest of PRODUCTs :) as if we already have figured out but we have not. So that QM7 should only apply that experience to QM7. IF i were u , i would be :” oh, next time i buy soemthing if it’s SOLD OUT, i will NOT buy Tier Down. I will wait. I cant just buy Tier down n expect it to be Tier up, get angry n mad at the Tier up that I never bought. D sales person fooled me to let me belive d tier down is close when it’s NOT. So i need to be care about how sales pitch. When I buy a Car, i need keep my spine. if its sold out d model i want, i need to not the Car sales --let me show u this, its tier down, but Very Close, NO they are just trying to --LET ME Believe they are Close so i can waste my money so they can get commission over the over stocked car that they are trying to GET Rid of.”
@larrymtz8311 ай бұрын
Im still deciding between the u8k 900 and this sony x90l 1200 at costco 5 years warranty 😬
@michaeldavis655011 ай бұрын
@larrymtz83 please trust me. Go with the X90L you won't be sorry. Espicallly upscaling & pure picture quality straight out of the box not to mention one of the most dependable brands. Sure some people have issues sometimes with some sonys but overall longevity is key & you can trust Sony. That's why I bought 2 in 2022 & only needed 1.
@bpowick7 ай бұрын
I've been watching a few other channels that have also discussed Sony's X90L as well as their top tier mini LED the X95L and how they out perform most other mini LED TVs even though they both have less dimming zones than most of the competition and it all comes down to their processing and dimming algorithm. Sony revealed just before CES this year that they use their own proprietary tech to better focus their dimming zones as well as better control the gradient of light each zone needs rather than simply being on or off. It's actually pretty cool seeing how it works and because of it they don't need as many dimming zones. Apparently their 2024 mini LED TVs will have an even better version of this tech and some tech reporters that have seen pre-production TVs in action say it rivals current OLEDs in terms of picture quality and deep black levels.
@kinsoncooper7333 Жыл бұрын
I'm really getting annoyed with reviewers... you accomplished what you set out to do, elevate one and pull down the other... even thoug both has 2 out of 3. All the years reviewers have made a stink about dimming zones, now it's suddenly acceptable to have less.
@VikingAwayFromHome Жыл бұрын
Because more dimming zones require better processing - and it's not quite where it needs to be in order to work optimally with an ever increasing number of zones.
@stopthefomo Жыл бұрын
If you watch my livestream comparisons, you see i try my best to balance the comaprisons because we ALL KNOW there is no perfect TV. It may appear perfect in one scene but not in another. My objective as a reviewer is to match the strength of a TV to YOUR use case. If the flaws I point out is not something you'll ever see, then you win! The QM8 is still my choice for best value HDR TV but the point of this video is to demonstrate what can be done without miniLED (and less dimming zones) - it's obviously not perfect as you saw the raised blacks and blooming of the X90L but the QM8 is still an excellent TV matching the performance of the QN95C more often than not. For $1200 I don't see how this is even a problem for owners of the QM8!
@18matts Жыл бұрын
@@stopthefomooled is perfect for me 😊
@fabicdes Жыл бұрын
@@stopthefomo@stopthefomo So what is the best Led TV made until today?
@Uncle_Titus Жыл бұрын
@@fabicdesfor Picture quality x95k and x95l
@garagesale5948 Жыл бұрын
I have a 85" X90CK, could not be happier. Will use the $2K saved from the X95L to purchase room darkening shades for the window to allow the theater experience during the day.
@joelbrayman58276 ай бұрын
I think I have watched every video review on U-Tube related to choosing between the Sony X90L, TCL Q7 or QM 8 or the Hisense UK7 or 8 and it is mind boggling, although half the fun. "On paper" I settled on the Sony X90L and went to Costo to buy one. Costco had a much cheaper 65" TCL and Samsung running on either side the of the Sony X90L. No doubt the Sony has a nice picture, but when I stepped back about 15 ft both the TCL and Samsung were noticeably brighter, and incidentally had good pictures. I realized right then and there that despite all the reviews and descriptions about nits by nerds (meant affectionately), that brightness really is important to me. Don't get me wrong, I love spending time researching and watching all the reviews, but man, you just have to go somewhere and watch these TV's side by side if you can. Your eyes may change what your brain may be trying to tell you based on what others have to say! I just ordered a TCL QM 8 ...
@donb7574 Жыл бұрын
If the Sony X90L does so well with no mini-LED and fewer dimming zones with its superior processing, I'm really curious how the higher end Sony X95K,X93L,X95L models with mini-LED and more dimming zones plus Sony's special processing will do in comparison to the cheaper mini-LED models and the upcoming Sharp mini-LED TV?
@stopthefomo Жыл бұрын
X95L is doing very VERY well
@Kobzar666 Жыл бұрын
@@stopthefomo what about X95K?
@raikirik703 Жыл бұрын
@@Kobzar666The X95K is good but apparently only at 85". A different panel was used for the sizes below 85" so the smaller sets were not as good.
@brunoboy98 Жыл бұрын
@@Kobzar666I have the 75’ x95K and i absolutely love it. i have a super bright room and the tv gets so bright. there’s some blooming but it’s really not a dealbreaker , unless you always have subtitles on or something
@alanclark9000 Жыл бұрын
@birdtj82 sharp isn't better then sony. Hell no. They kinda pulling off what hisense is doing just not in the USA.
@MM-Official Жыл бұрын
Excellent topic and well covered too, X90L is the best Sony FALD since their mighty 2017 line up (x900e and x93e)
@MichaelC_22 Жыл бұрын
You could also throw the Q7 into the discussion. No MiniLED. Amazing contrast. Deep blacks. And I would say less blooming than the X90L. Rtings review will be coming out soon, and I will say it scored very highly with contrast and black uniformity.
@TBoogy3 Жыл бұрын
This TV is amazing me. Just got it last week.
@tomtube1012 Жыл бұрын
Are you saying the Q7 looks better than the QM8?
@MichaelC_22 Жыл бұрын
No. The Qm8 will look better in many ways, but the q7 is no slouch. Qm8 will get much brighter, and colors will "pop" more. However, the contrast in both TVs is similar, and in dark scenes, the q7 will not crush blacks as much as the qm8, for example.@@tomtube1012
@budmonk28199 ай бұрын
I just bought the Sony X90L and am waiting for delivery. This is a great video with the visuals and explaining the differences. Thanks for putting me at ease. I really had FOMO on the Mini LED.
@PcGamingForFun5 ай бұрын
is there any ghosting or blur when panning the camera in games?
@sberry55Ай бұрын
How is it?
@SLICK811613 күн бұрын
@@sberry55it sucks
@trevortimmermans64576 ай бұрын
i use my 85' qm8 every day and it's beautiful
@trevortimmermans64576 ай бұрын
i couldnt afford the sony lol
@rjejames28 Жыл бұрын
I will say that for everyday watching Sony's processing is continually underrated. If people are watching a lot of shows that aren't perfect Blu-ray 4K the Sony just absolutely shines over a lot of other competition. They're upscaling and rendering of standard definition streaming apps is fantastic.
@birdtj82 Жыл бұрын
The thing is tho most ppl under 45 do not watch blue ray 4k. It’s like forcing a Narritive that is just harder by year. :) and i do hear ya. Cuz if they are using upscaling but ONLY making the panel best at $3000 to look so good but making the 1200-2200 range look like bad deal. It’s JUST not worth it. Not worth it. 😅
@alfredsnyder32911 ай бұрын
Another thing to point out is the compatibility mode with the PS5. Few TVs respond to the way they respond to the PS5.
@birdtj8211 ай бұрын
@@alfredsnyder329 interesting :) what happens when use diff tv then ?
@rjejames2811 ай бұрын
@@alfredsnyder329 good point
@anthonymorales58159 ай бұрын
yeah, i owned a u7k for a bout a week, and different content looked terrible. motion was awful, and detail in dark scenes was awful
@CH-XC2011 Жыл бұрын
My TCL 75QM8 has been great. Especially at $1800
@Davidc93567 ай бұрын
Just picked one up,and compared to my Sony A80j ,I actually prefer the brightness of the TCL.
@AlexanderXtcSlayin Жыл бұрын
Great video, and point. But if the Sony had the mini led and dimming zones of the qm8, I would get it in a heartbeat. Combining Sony’s superior image quality, processing, and color, along with the tech would be a dream. I would like to see the qn95c thrown into this fight, although Samsungs image quality, processing, and color is not as good as Sony’s.
@stopthefomo Жыл бұрын
You're basically referring to the Sony X95L which sadly only comes in 85" (for USA) - maybe the 65" Sharp with 2000 zones and miniLED will be that TV this year?
@AlexanderXtcSlayin Жыл бұрын
@@stopthefomo very interested to see how that performs
@techsamurai11 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it would be interesting to see how a Sony with 1,000 dimming zones would perform. The X95L seemed to be very close to Sony's reference monitor and it has 480 dimming zones. Doubling that would certainly improve it but I do wonder if you'd be able to see a difference. On the other hand, I do suspect that tripling the X90L's to 240 would produce very similar results to the X95L which is very important for subtitles.
@birdtj82 Жыл бұрын
@@stopthefomo hey I am so excited to SHARP. I had their LED , they were land slide 🛝 crushing SONY. They didnt spend enough money advertising tho. Super glad Sharp came back to USA. They left the -premium TV space long ago only selling their premiums in Japan/China. N they are like d G3 price there lol.
@antonioprado80689 ай бұрын
@@stopthefomoWhat model is a sharp that you're talking about
@av_rob799 ай бұрын
Buying a 75 x90l. Told my buddy yesterday and he said I should get a TCL qm8. Well I showed him this video and he's starting to see how superior processing beats out more dimming zones and sub-par processing. I already own an A80J now adding an x90l for the bedroom. Sony is truely the best
@jayshine2742 Жыл бұрын
U can get the same or similar black levels on the Sony if u don't mind losing a Little bit of detail like the TCL if u just set the local dimming to high because it default at medium
@fierceflyer5 Жыл бұрын
Why wear glass frames with no lenses? Do you think it makes you look smarter? What’s the point?
@stopthefomo Жыл бұрын
CORRECT. It does make me look smarter, it's all about perception - the minute the glasses come off, I'm suddenly less authoritative for some reason. Imagine how much smarter Barbie looks if she wore my glasses? BOOM
@birdtj82 Жыл бұрын
Lol it’s an Asian thing . I had a gf keeps doing it . Its like ppl used to wear watch they feel weird not using it .
@michaelwyckoff7593 Жыл бұрын
Great video buddy. This is why I switched to OLED because of all the back and forth about miniled and FALD. I'm glad I made the switch. 😊😊😊
@chriskelly174017 сағат бұрын
I purchased the 85-inch Costco variant with the two-year Sony warranty, three-year Allstate service, and same aluminum backlit remote included with the A95L. At some point, I was considering purchasing the Panasonic DP-UB820 for daytime viewing because of its unique ability to convert HDR to SDR while maintaining the wide color gamut on my 4K UHD Blu-ray discs. Being that the Sony X90L was released between four and five years later than the Panasonic DP-UB820, would setting the Sony X90L's HDR Tone Mapping to Brightness Preferred achieve picture quality equal to or better than the Panasonic DP-UB820's HDR to SDR conversion with wide color gamut?
@cameronwarn3726 Жыл бұрын
Comparison with the Sony X95L would be better to see what Sony can do with their best mini LED TV.
@mcole3121 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, the x90L was doing better due to the processing so would be interesting to see how much a difference the same processing with Mini LED would make
@sonnydemichele49038 ай бұрын
I have a new idea you should bring out golden chicken for events like ps5 pro that symbolizes that it’s AMAZING!!!!!!! And wave it all over the screen!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉 yessssss please do this please 🙏
@Belgarath777 Жыл бұрын
What a fantastic video. Its very easy to understand and very well produced. Anyway, this and a couple of other videos saying similar things is why the 98" X90L is in my top 3 TVs Im considering, along with the 85" X95l and the 85" Hisense UX which I hope you'll test. So putting price aside, if you were buying a TV for a room with a lot of ambient light (large windows), but no direct sun, would you be more excited to get the 98" x90 because its more than good enough and you get that unbelievable size, or would you want to close the gap even more with the superior, but smaller sized 85" x95l? 🙂
@bungalowtomcat13 ай бұрын
Total Love the Explaining in this and the Images are great,,,, What you show us,,,,,,,,,, Can you do more of this on TV'S
@FreyVII7 ай бұрын
I think this goes to show why Sony is more expensive than the other brands. You are really paying for a higher end processor and more polish. That being said, the QM8 still seems like a great TV for the price. So it really comes down to what you care about and what you are willing to spend. If you are in the market for a very good QLED TV, can't go wrong with either for most people.
@user-pm6ry9mg6r4 ай бұрын
Why no any test about miniled Panasonic MX950 ? Nobody did It .. For which reason? Thanks ..
@seedymcfly50138 ай бұрын
I see this as a win for TCL. The fact they can closely compete with the top tv brand, while charging significantly less money.
@RicoElfaniProduction7 ай бұрын
Watching this on my X90L, upgraded from TCL Q6. I mostly watching HD content. Sony new XR processor doing very good job especially at upscaling low resolution content. Its brigthness is sufficient in my living room. TCL may have better specs but Sony have better image processing algoritmh in their 2023 TV line up.
@SLICK811613 күн бұрын
Enjoy the bloom
@The_Wicked_Wookie Жыл бұрын
Tcl has proved terrible for me had tcl 6 and 8 both broke in less then a year never again
@pboissie Жыл бұрын
Man thats good to know, as i did consider a QM8, but too many issues ive heard with TCL for last few yrs. My 2 yr old Hisense U8G still going strong with zero issues…
@CarsandCats Жыл бұрын
Yep. That "Sony Tax" doesn't look so bad now that you're on your 3rd purchase, right? I bet the Sony would have been CHEAPER in the long run and you'd have a better tv that still works.
@Cigma-e7w Жыл бұрын
I've had this issue with Hisense tvs, never bought another one.
@martinchitembo1883 Жыл бұрын
@@pboissiei have an hisense u7a from 2018 and it is going strong and though it is edge lit it is still a brillant set.
@pboissie Жыл бұрын
@@Cigma-e7w must have had the cheap models pre - U8G as ive never heard anyone mention major failiures with 2021 and later Hisense. This is was my first “off brand” purchase by the way, always got Sonys, Samsungs and LGs….and only samsungs failed on me eventually
@MARTINRIGGSS Жыл бұрын
I had a 6 series and the OS was great, loved the remote and overall TV was a great bargain. My issue was how I always had issues. Even used a TCL sound bar that would never connect. Support was like talking to a wall. So there’s that. If you just want a cheap TV with features get this. I wouldn’t recommend it if it’s your main TV.
@highdefnews175 Жыл бұрын
Great breakdown FOMO. Can’t wait for the Sharp review 😁
@Pichoniix5 ай бұрын
Sony Mid Range Price Tvs are not worth it because for that price you get better Tvs from other brands. Only the Prime Sony tvs are the ones that offer the best image quality but for very high prices.
@simonbaribeau48533 ай бұрын
Spot on.. For people not willing to pay 4k+ Sony isnt the answer
@louisxiiii11 ай бұрын
I spent this past weekend shopping for a TV. I ended up ordering an X90L. At a Best Buy where they had various test videos you could display on the 5 different screens and pause, I saw shockingly little difference between the X93L (not 100% it was an L) and the X90L. The salesman was able to find 1 frame where hte skin toens were better on the X93, but on scenes where there was blooming, frozen n 1 frame, looking carefuly back and forth between the two, I could not see any difference. Really, I thought the blooming was minimal overall. I really wonder if the video world is too obsessed with the deepest blacks. To me, the brightness in daylight scenes of the X90 over the A80 made a big difference in the movie-watching experience, whereas the darker blacks of the A80 were more of a novelty, especially since there was far less detail in shadow areas on the A80.
@stopthefomo11 ай бұрын
These "deep blacks" are only visible in a dark room so BB showroom is not always the best, and more importantly, it depends on the content. For example, in the movie 1917, shadow detail together with deep blacks really make some scenes pop whereas in Aquaman or Infinity Wars? Deep blacks not as important.
@loosingmymemory7 Жыл бұрын
I subscribed to your content a long time ago, but one thing I wish you would do is show me how well it looks on a PC, because unlike your audience I actually use my panel as a monitor too, so I switch to PC and then to my streaming box to watch content. I tried out an LCD TCL and I did the simple white page black text test, and then black page with white text test and it was really bad, as in, it was unusable as a PC monitor. This is the main reason why I splurged and got the OLED, because the white page and black text actually look right, so maybe if you could spare like 5 mins for those two tests and also describe the maximum refresh rate it would be totally awesome!
@rohanchooramun7288 Жыл бұрын
Great video.... you need to add Hisense as well into this comparison as well.
@birdtj82 Жыл бұрын
Also TCL use 1.0 Color toner. Hisense USE PREMIUM 3.0 color toner same as d BIG 3. So its REALLY hard “under sell” to make a --Narritive lol. Cuz Hisense U8 U7…are d premium. 😮
@stopthefomo Жыл бұрын
@@birdtj82 LOL let's get this cleared up. I bought the Sony X90L from Best Buy and most importantly, Sony has hated me ever since I posted the X900H VRR fiasco three years ago. Sony has never EVER sent me a TV for review - I've had to buy them all myself. The only TVs ever sent to me for review have been TCL (but not recently, I've also had to buy the QM8 and R646 from Best Buy) and Hisense loaned me the U8K, U7K (both returned). Believe me when I say that I have been Sony's harshest critic (or did you miss my scathing review of the X95K last year, which I also bought) and this is the first time I've liked the entry level X90 model! As far as LG, they definitely don't like me and like Sony, they also do not send me any TVs for review - I've had to buy those too. I welcome loaner TV units for sure, but I always say it as it is because I don't mind buying TVs when I need to.
@birdtj82 Жыл бұрын
@@stopthefomo hey…thx for taking the time to explain. Okay 👌 that shows a lot of gratitude. And sorry for putting u thru the hurt. And yes a lot of FAke influencers online n it’s REally hard to differentiate who’s real vs NOT. We all know most TV reviewer/tech reviewer/ car reviews are like biased to promote certain mode/brand etc. so consumers are under a lot of stress. But def u have my highest respect. I am going to delete that comment shortly n u have my biggest apology. And yes u are my top TV trusted review guide. I hope 🤞 my response give u good hope. I know we all make mis judgement time to time , but most ppl have decency to re exam . Thx 🙏 for being a good guy. HUG! Ps i am Chinese. We learn to be calm n having decency. So i see that in u. :)
@rohanchooramun7288 Жыл бұрын
@@birdtj82 Although the only problem with Hisense is that it uses a native 8bit panel not 10bit which causes some issues with HDR.
@monster411able Жыл бұрын
Nice video comparison….. now the $64k question…for an all around moderately bright family room television that will do sports, Netflix, movie nights…. $2799 for an 85” X90L or $2199 for the QM8?
@tbecket4890 Жыл бұрын
Lol … so much for this vid
@paulcox2447 Жыл бұрын
For 600 cheaper you are getting deeper blacks and slightly less detail in the highlights. If you aren't a reference accurate guy, the qm8 can be driven a lot harder when it comes to color saturation and things like that. So keep that in mind depending on how you like to watch
@monster411able Жыл бұрын
@@paulcox2447 thanks. I’m like everyone else. I want it all. OLED blacks, Sony processing, LED juice. Lol. I’m leaning towards ponying up another $500 and grabbing a 77” A80L.
@monster411able Жыл бұрын
Our living room isn’t a super bright environment. Thinking it will work.
@rajabehal68715 ай бұрын
I think the best of both integrated by Sony would be a killer combination means mini led with 2000 dimming zones and sony algorithms to control it will surely beat oleds.
@movielover1239Ай бұрын
Pls give advice, 85inches TCL QM850G (2023 MODEL) is $1700 with 4 years warranty after tax, vs SONY X90L Costco 5 years warranty at $2150 after tax, which one you would choose? Thank you.
@galegrazutis96411 ай бұрын
I have the Samsung Q90B 55 inch very good purchase!
@debw26359 ай бұрын
I am wanting to save up for a 98 inch tv, so my question is .. doesn't the 98 in screen have more dimming than a 65 in screen? I am sure it does, so doesn't that make sense there would be improved contrast on the 98 in screen? I wish FOMO could review the real differences between the 98 in screens TCL and Sony, in how they look and perform. isn't there a Sony setting where we can sharpen the contrast even just a bit without ruining the whole picture. if so what is it called?
@tonyzeno27153 ай бұрын
A must watch video to understand the Power of Picture processing vs Brute Force Brightness
@GR8TM4N2 күн бұрын
Subtitles and large white objects on the screen look especially ugly in a backlit LCD TVs .... you can see they're not uniformly bright due to the zones behind them. Annoying, but it doesn't spoil the image much ... Ofc if you want the absolute best - buy a OLED.
@kraken988310 ай бұрын
I’m thinking about buying the Sony 65” x93L but I don’t want to wait until Black Friday. Do you think it’s going to be lower than the $1799 they have on sale for now?
@wingedhussar1453 Жыл бұрын
Best mini led are ips ones. Not overly contrasty with blown out picture
@sydneyatutahi3927 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Review my Fomo friend 🤙🏼✊🏼👌🏼
@robertlawrence9000 Жыл бұрын
The Sony is almost there! ALMOST THERE SONY!!! Please PLEASE massively increase that zone count! It drives me up the wall!!! 😩
@R6ex Жыл бұрын
Most impressed with the X90L I saw at the shop!
@abelramos86524 ай бұрын
It’s a very very solid tv without being crazy expensive. Sony has been always bitching with the entry level and finally that’s is over. Mates, don’t just look for the cold numbers, there’s a lot of more to care in a tv other than nits and contrast ratio.
@trevors9811 ай бұрын
so much info and so hard to decide. this is my dilemma... 75" sony x90l vs 75" qm8 vs 65" a95k. for my Livingroom tv. all 3... are the same price. (the a95k is an open box deal). I like the bigger 75" size but not sure if I'd be happier with a smaller a95k picture quality...
@rickt.2235 ай бұрын
I feel like I missed the TV Basics 101 course and skipped directly to Mini LEDs in the Modern Era 301.
@RayRiv7310 ай бұрын
Bought a 65" Sony X90L for $799 from costco...it was a no Brainer!
@barbarashissias956710 ай бұрын
When did you buy the 65” Sony at Costco? My local is like $1199.
@RayRiv7310 ай бұрын
@barbarashissias9567 this past Monday 10/16 LIC NY and it wasn't a display model.
@PcGamingForFun5 ай бұрын
is there any ghosting or blur when panning the camera in games?
@RayRiv735 ай бұрын
@PcGamingForFun I really do t play games on it but the TV is great for watching cable TV and movies
@Li403Lo9 ай бұрын
Hi Fomo, should I go to mini LED Sony 83X90L price at $1,999 or LG OLED 77 B3 at $1,799 ? what is your opinion? Thank you.
@supermariofreak Жыл бұрын
Seeing as you mentioned that some of the shortcomings of the QM8 are software specific, could TCL improve on these with future firmware updates??
@SliqGzle Жыл бұрын
And could one use the settings to beat the Sony?
@asole10010 ай бұрын
I think it's a bit of reach to expect a company to make a device better than it is when they can jist do that next year. It would be diff if it was a bug or a small feature.
@supermariofreak10 ай бұрын
@@asole100 I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect software improvements or big fixes at least within the first year of the product launch. This is a brand new model after all.
@dewittfiala50217 ай бұрын
the TCL blew out some extremely bright stuff (sun, clouds) but its shadow detail was better, even in scenes u were pointing out a Sony "Win" u can just see more in shadows with its overall brightness and contrast advantage
@eagles725 Жыл бұрын
FOMO, can you do another video with the U8K thrown in? Great video. thanks!
@stopthefomo Жыл бұрын
Brian (techtherapy) will be doing that video!
@ericbrown17838 ай бұрын
Thank you my friend for all the help/ reviews I decide to buy the tcl 85" qm8. And I wanted to ask you about that elusive 600x600 full motion wall mount that I can't seem to find anywhere. I found one review saying a PERLESMITH Full Motion TV Wall Mount for 50-95 800x600 could work. If so how do you feel about this wall mount?
@ricome1696 ай бұрын
should of bought smaller tv 85 inch tvs ae garrish ugly
@junguo308811 ай бұрын
I choose TCL. Top performance.
@bloomerb4162 Жыл бұрын
Micro and mini led are way different. Micro led is self emmisive, I thought. An actual Micro red blue and green led in each pixel.
@michaelzoran Жыл бұрын
QUESTION FOR FOMO: Does the Hisense U8K successfully achieve the three criteria you describe at the end of the video? I'm talking about the 75" IPS version of the U8K, not the 65" VA version of the U8K.
@SLICK811613 күн бұрын
No
@isaiahang6739 Жыл бұрын
@stopthefomo is this the calibrated QM8 versus the uncalibrated X90L?
@jesscaldejon82477 ай бұрын
OLEDs are Bunker TVs! If I wanted to watch movie in the dark, I rather go to a movie theater. OLEDs are like Plasmas before them with all the same issues.
@whiteandnerdytuba Жыл бұрын
Oleds have the worst contrast, it’s linked to their poor brightness. My 3 favorite oled lies- infinite contrast, abl isn’t noticeable, no more burn in
@stopthefomo Жыл бұрын
Gotta disagree with you about the contrast - it's consistently good. Issues may stem from poor tone mapping which is software or bad DV processing which is also software, self-emissive delivers best in class contrast with QD-OLED taking a farther leap by offering better color luminance and color purity at wider viewing angles. Burn-in and ABL will always fall behind the flagship LCD TVs, as there are no perfect TVs but the absolute strength of OLED is definitely contrast (whether it's truly "infinite" is a different issue)
@dannyboy1533Ай бұрын
Three points at the end is not enough. Need to add risk of burn in and black crushing.
@Laid_Back_17 Жыл бұрын
Great point. And good luck to Japan in WC btw, they my favorite after my national team of Morocco.
@OmahaGTP10 ай бұрын
I have an LG C8 and a G2, and will probably keep OLED for myself for the foreseeable future. However, I just convinced my parents to upgrade their Panasonic plasma's (one of them is from 2008!) to a set of 75" and 65" X90L's and for them I feel like they will be thrilled. For them I prioritized motion and dark scene details over true blacks, especially since they'll be streaming 100% of their content, to find a budget that made them comfortable. Hopefully they'll be happy, will find out later this week.
@paulcarlin51819 ай бұрын
How did it go?
@blake0312995 ай бұрын
I'm switching my 2014 Panasonic plasma for an 85 x90l soon
@marcopugliares9309 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see what the U8K can do compared to that Sony.
@ebayer1980 Жыл бұрын
Superb comparison. Proof that dry measurements don't show which tv is better. Can You do LCD vs OLED comparison?
@stopthefomo Жыл бұрын
Sure thing, but keep in mind all my livestream comparisons I have an OLED TV like the G3, S90C or S95C there for comparison with LCD TVs and OLED is better in challenging scenes 10% of the time while the other 90% they are very VERY similar!
@thatsamazin- Жыл бұрын
At 12:07 you can see the oled (g3) smashing the led Sony and mini led tcl to pieces in the starfield. That’s the biggest difference for me. Blooming vs infinite contrast.
@DavidBrown-eo3hw12 күн бұрын
Any chance of doing a U8N vs QM7 2024 vs X90l review. They are all about the same price and Sony is still selling the X90l. Im interested in seeing how the X90l compares to the 2024 tvs in its price range. Thanks.
@rcud13 ай бұрын
I compared the Sony X90L to their mini led X93L and the differences were not very significant at all considering the much higher cost of the X93L. Its a little better for a lot more $ and just not worth the premium price to me.
@peterandras7 ай бұрын
But what about the Sony X95L, which has Mini LED? Even Sony made the mini led step with their LED Flagship.
@abishakgovindarajan384822 күн бұрын
thanks FOMO right now is it better to get the 98inch qm851 or the x90l as the prices have dropped
@scottamolinari7 ай бұрын
I'd just like to make the note that the wall behind you on the right is killing my OCD. In fact, your whole presentation is killing me. But, that's ok. Cause the content is excellent.
@davidklotz11 Жыл бұрын
Great information. I’m curious if you have any hands on experience with the TCL Q6 and Q7. A lot of people saying the 5 and 6 series are better because of things like miniLED, is this the same situation where the Q6 and Q7 are doing more with less?
@asole10010 ай бұрын
You forgot to consider the Sony processing in this equation.
@thearchieman327 ай бұрын
Its seems to me its all about preference. I have a tcl qm8 and a hisense u8...both are very good tv's conpared to my other oled
@jhford1 Жыл бұрын
Great videos. We have a 65" LG SM8100AUA, which I think was manufactured in the late Medieval period. 🤔Most of the content we watch is streamed from either KZfaq TV, KZfaq Premium, or PBS. Will we see a substantial difference between our ancient LG and the U8K considereing the content we watch?
@Renozable Жыл бұрын
You most likely will. Especially on terms of contrast and HDR performance. Your current tv is using an IPS Panel with low contrast ratio. Oled will blow your mind :-)
@jhford1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying. I've been unable to find any online discussion or review of the 65U75K with mini led tech which Costco has on sale for $699.99, so I'm not sure what U75K means. The model number is very close to U8K. Do you know about this model? Is it a private label model U8K just for Costco? Of course, no one at Costco has an answer. What do you think? Thanks again.
@TheLateral1811 ай бұрын
I have the qn90a. That tv is the best thing I've ever got
@alltheboost80110 ай бұрын
I’m in the market for an 85inch. Currently I own a 65” TCL 65R615 which is great! But I want something bigger and I’m considering the Sony X90L, TCL Q7, TCL QM8, Hisense U7K and Hisense U8K I watch movies, tv shows, streaming like hulu, Netflix, HBO, etc and all sports every day and night. I do some gaming maybe once or twice a week. And I have some blue-Ray movies that are true 4k Which should I go with?
@joshalan5125 Жыл бұрын
I hope this isn't a dumb question (if it is, sorry) but do you believe that Mini Led's may eventually replace LCD or even QLED TV's the same way that OLED basically phased out Plasma?
@loldatfunny Жыл бұрын
no because it costs more to make mini LED Tvs and most people don't care that much about picture quality so companies will continue to make regular LCD Tvs who will buy TVs for the cheapest possible price. I doubt the production costs of Mini LED will come down enough that companies are willing to mass produce as low end/cheap TVs
@stopthefomo Жыл бұрын
So to be clear, a QLED TV is simply an LCD TV that uses quantum dots in the backlight system with the only difference being that QLED is Samsung's trademark for the quantum dot technology but Hisense also uses quantum dots in its ULED TVs - ultimately, they are all LCD TVs. All premium LCD TVs today (over $800) are using quantum dots in their backlight so essentially these premium LCD TVs are all QLED now!
@joshalan5125 Жыл бұрын
@@stopthefomo Thanks for clearing that up. There are so many kinds of TVs today, its hard to keep track of them all.
@birdtj82 Жыл бұрын
It’s like car industry, there always ppl in need of “just a car” for utility reasons. I went to fast food restaurant, i saw all the Hisense ROKU tv as their menu. N bunch of other cheap TVs. There always market for Cheap/simple ,,,:) 😅
@drewyoung21029 ай бұрын
So confused! Isn't the LG G2 or G3 looking great? Seem "mini" is a just a sales ploy for cheaper tech. Definately not a step change worth buying to me. Sony new ES receivers a step change though
@zenzonetv3310 Жыл бұрын
@stopthefomo Will you be getting your hands on the Hisense UX as well?
@sj4601625 ай бұрын
Watched this again Fomo. Great video. So X90L is beast. But oled beats that!? But wait...oled isnt as good at full screen brightness...gee wheres the perfect tv...??
@stevenbarta66389 ай бұрын
Samsung QN90C or Sony X93L. Which one would you recommend? Which has better upscaling?
@badpuppy3 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious to see a Mini-LED tv with a 720p backlight Matrix, once the tech advances enough. I presume you could then have an 8K color filter on top to resolve the fine detail, but the HD backlight image wouldn't need to be as precise.
@shugo7337 Жыл бұрын
The issue is cost, it gets exponentially more expensive to up the dimming zone counts supposedly. I doubt we'll ever see an LCD TV with over 900,000 dimming zones tbh. It would either cost more than OLED by a wide margin, or by the time we'd get there, MicroLED TV's would probably be getting cost competitive and readily available, and superior to LCD in every way.
@badpuppy3 Жыл бұрын
@@shugo7337 I'm saying it would be a cheaper option to manufacture than direct view MicroLED, especially for future 8K resolutions in TV's 65" or smaller, because they wouldn't have to get the individual LED's so small, but still have a near perceptible contrast. Having 900,000 individual LED's will be a lot easier to achieve than 33 million.
@aldrichuyliong8143 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but the Sony is still $100 more than the TCL with inferior tech. I'll take the Mini LED TCL.
@therationalpiper7428 Жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see a vid on "Best TV for Streaming Content". I, like a lot of people I think, watch only lower quality streaming content (youtube tv, youtube, amazon prime video, etc.).
@Briballdo Жыл бұрын
Don't a lot of those apps still provide higher quality 4k content tho? I know Disney+ has a ton of Dolby Vision/Atmos and all that
@therationalpiper7428 Жыл бұрын
@@Briballdo I admit I'm not an expert, but I know you have to pay more for 4k youtubetv and Prime Video offers HD (1080p I assume) at a lower price for rentals than UHD. Also, I don't think your stream will always be perfect quality depending on your connection, so many people rarely watch UHD/4k. If you are buying a TV at $1000 or under there's a very good chance you aren't watching top quality content.
@Briballdo Жыл бұрын
@@therationalpiper7428 Yeah good point. It's hard to compare these TVs because in person they basically only play the demo videos at absolute max quality. And then reviewers will basically only focus on the super high quality content as well. I'm really curious how "normal" 1080p or 4k content from streaming apps does on these TVs
@therationalpiper7428 Жыл бұрын
@@Briballdo Right, and I posted the comment here after seeing part of his long comparison of u8k, QM8, Q7 and U7k. I didn't even realize that the processing mattered so much more for the content that I usually watch.
@thePavuk2 ай бұрын
That Pan scene... 10:34 yes, sony show more details, but it's underexposed compared to TCL