Big fan. Apologize for my early miss understanding. Forwardly u have my utter support :) 😊 thx for the great videos!

@stopthefomo So after watching this, what is the best Led TV made until today?

Where can I pick up a couple of those LG MICRO LED, the $90k ones, need at least two!

X90l or X95L?

what is better pc gaming tv with 3080 nvidia gpu?

Q90T was d BEST. Its like ART. QN90A was nice tho. I did NOT have issue with it when I saw in store. Maybe u could try to tweak it. Seeing something in store is never accurate!!! I saw Hisense U8G 65” beside QN90A, LG CX, SONY A90J….the CX A90J looked AWEFUL AWEFUL AWEFUL, but Hisense LOOKED WORSE--at fisrt. I had to hunt down the employee to ask him to change to --STandard mode. He had on --Energy Saving mode. N back light on 💯, black level(brightness) set to 50%. And then i found d Samsung QN90A. I moved around its setting, it looked Great. N d doughy guy in store they were --really agreesive so bitchy that I went straight asking for U8G n QN90A. He kept berating the technology n brand, n kept trying to pulllme to look at OLED, n LG QNED. Ughhhhhh. 😮 U might want to re visit the store, get remotes first. Cuz they really are trying to promote LG QNED(cuz they a re not selling). N some other OLED (they get much higher commission).

I agree KG with you 😊

Maybe because if they gave it their all they would run out of things to improve upon.

Exactly correct. And, just as Sony will always tell you, they make their design decisions with the creator's intent in mind. They want you to see everything that the creator of the content wanted you to see. This is one reason why Sony's consistently provide a much better overall viewing experience than their competitors - regardless of the content you are watching.

@@michaelbeckerman7532 Sony needs to start making decisions based on the fact that it is the intent of the creator for people to be able to see their content without being forced to take out a loan on their home in order to buy a TV. Sony's products are ridiculously overpriced - the point that it represents price gouging. TCL and Hisense offer similar performance for prices that are much better. This is the benefit of competition in sales. Sony is no longer a sales leader, because of the terrible prices of Sony's TV sets.

Honestly oleds have the same issue, there's still crushed blacks too often but with certain content the black contrast can look stunning and you don't get that with the balanced 'sony' approach you allude to'. That said, there is absolutely a place for this balance and I can understand why people opt for it.

Sony have Mini LED too

@@lancealex382 OLEDs have a couple problems. First, the "Burn-In" risk is very real - regardless of what anyone says. If you watch a lot of CNN or Fox News all day, you will eventually end up with "Burn-In" from those colors always being in the same spot. Second, the "Fast Response Times" of OLED helps the videogames with "High Framerates," such as First-Person Shooters and Racing games. However, the "Fast Response Times" of OLED actually has the inverse effect that HURTS the low-framerate movies on Blu-ray, which run at only 24 frames per second. This creates problems with Stuttering, Juddering, and Shimmery in high-speed "Movement" scenes.

Yes !!!

Are you joking? 20 dimming zones is not "significantly".

@@user-oq4rm5ci9p You misslead, the X90K 65inch had 40 zones now the X90L 65inch has 80 zones. Year-over-year a double zone count is a great improvement. WheneverSony carefully increases zones count they make sure that accuracy remains and no picture detail is left behind, unlike the brute force of other manufacturers. There are no perfect tv's, so shop what you like, really.

@@Krynale You are wrong. X90k has 60 zones. +20 zones is almost nothing

@@user-oq4rm5ci9p not with a Sony and an XR Cognitive processor it isn't. Remember, the XR is the most advanced processor of ANY TV you can buy today. A big part of that is because of the software running inside that processor. The better the software, the more accurately you can control the backlighting. What makes Sony so much better at what it does is really its ability to not only bring superior image processing to the table, but also to bring superior backlight control as well. This is why, just like the video shows, Sony is able to "do more with less". Now, if you need more than that, they offer the mini-LED based X93L. And, as you can imagine, with mini-LED's and its approximately 800 local dimming zones (along with the XR processor) it does everything even better still. That TV is almost indistinguishable from OLED displays in many cases.

I just purchased the Sony X90L 75" and it is amazing 🔥🔥🔥

THANK YOU for watching!

LUCKY MAN. The Sony X95L is definitely a landmark accomplishment for Sony - it took them long enough but this is the TV that should've been labeled "Backlight Master Drive" rather than the X95K

@@stopthefomo it’s such a fantastic tv, lucky I live in Europe so have a lot of size option and didn’t have to get a ridiculous 85” size like USA.

I'm thinking of getting the 65'' around black Friday

​@@gomezwardulus4192 I am a European opting for 85, but that is because I set up my living room like a Cinema and i have the wall for it. If I lived in the UK i would opt for 50 inch Max, considering how tight the space for housing can be over there.

X90L has blooming . It’s like unfair to u tho. It’s like someone wanna buy suppped up Honda Accord, but its sold out, so they are like :”i end up buying Honda civic (cheaper model but close enough). It’s trash so i returned it buying a BMW X3. “ I am so glad i did d switch. i am glad i did not buy HOnda Accord. “ If NOT buy QM8/U8K/QN90B , judging Q7 to translate “UN predictable” U8K QN90B experience, it’s NOT --accurate prediction how much u would experienced. 7-8 is HUGE jump in d user end experience!!! 3 yrs in a row i have seen HIsense 7-8 HUGE gap in visual, Same as TCL. IF I someone buy -iPhone 14, because they WANTED 14-pro. But d 14PRO was 2 weeks wait, sold out. They end up buying d (none pro) 14: “ugh i dont like iPhone 14 , i wish i stick with my Samsung Flagship $1500phone, i will NOT bother buying iPhone 14-pro, i wont bother with any iPhone in the future” but NEVER bought d -14 pro. 🎉glad u enjoy yr tv. But Def NOT fair comprasing to QM8 , QN90B or U8k. :P

Sure it's fair because these budget brands are now claiming to be as good as the big boys at a cheaper price & yea they check some boxes but the over all quality & dependability isn't there but now thier prices are Wright up there within a couple hundred dollars from Sony & Samsung. So in the end if you wanna play with the big boys then you better be able hold your own in comparison. So bottom line is its a very fair comparison.

@@michaeldavis6550 i know what u are saying I have seen it in store last week U8K 75” NO blooming. X90L HAS blooming for that itself …sel visual self telling. Even Brian’s Tech Therpay video shows it. Sever Blomng against U8K. D Big boys means the Boy boys flagship panel X95K X95L. Getting runner down Q7. Judging the U8K Qm8, QN90B over SONY X90L is really not accurate presentation. As if its like ppl want to get QD-OLED from SoNY, but they cant afford so they get like d lower tier MINI LED”ewrr 700nit peak, blooming …HELL NO, i wont do sony” its diff panel. Yeah if QM7 did NOT workout , u find Better panel --great. But usign that QM7 to dictate /predict the OUT come of QN90B, Qm8, U8K is very……subjective . It’s a interesting thinking pattern. Often guys in dating pool do that too. They cant find HOT gf. So they will TESt on “normies” to see how “women are like” n using -that -as land mark to “predict” if girls that are PRETTIER -WILL be (WORSEN). Never knew a lot of sub 5/Normie women who never dated, or used to be jealous, covert narccist , actually attention seeker/secret gold digger, --MORE prone to Monkey branching, or being Seduced by other men. So those guys get BURNED …n thinking”okay this type of average looking woman so jealous/vindictive/snappy. Then pretty girls much be WORSE! So i am going to hate on Pretty women cuz they must be high maintance n snappy. “ Dude u see what i am saying…we cant use 1 thing/to fill 1 narrritve to broad cast reverse that value to the rest of PRODUCTs :) as if we already have figured out but we have not. So that QM7 should only apply that experience to QM7. IF i were u , i would be :” oh, next time i buy soemthing if it’s SOLD OUT, i will NOT buy Tier Down. I will wait. I cant just buy Tier down n expect it to be Tier up, get angry n mad at the Tier up that I never bought. D sales person fooled me to let me belive d tier down is close when it’s NOT. So i need to be care about how sales pitch. When I buy a Car, i need keep my spine. if its sold out d model i want, i need to not the Car sales --let me show u this, its tier down, but Very Close, NO they are just trying to --LET ME Believe they are Close so i can waste my money so they can get commission over the over stocked car that they are trying to GET Rid of.”

Im still deciding between the u8k 900 and this sony x90l 1200 at costco 5 years warranty 😬

@larrymtz83 please trust me. Go with the X90L you won't be sorry. Espicallly upscaling & pure picture quality straight out of the box not to mention one of the most dependable brands. Sure some people have issues sometimes with some sonys but overall longevity is key & you can trust Sony. That's why I bought 2 in 2022 & only needed 1.

Because more dimming zones require better processing - and it's not quite where it needs to be in order to work optimally with an ever increasing number of zones.

If you watch my livestream comparisons, you see i try my best to balance the comaprisons because we ALL KNOW there is no perfect TV. It may appear perfect in one scene but not in another. My objective as a reviewer is to match the strength of a TV to YOUR use case. If the flaws I point out is not something you'll ever see, then you win! The QM8 is still my choice for best value HDR TV but the point of this video is to demonstrate what can be done without miniLED (and less dimming zones) - it's obviously not perfect as you saw the raised blacks and blooming of the X90L but the QM8 is still an excellent TV matching the performance of the QN95C more often than not. For $1200 I don't see how this is even a problem for owners of the QM8!

​@@stopthefomooled is perfect for me 😊

​​@@stopthefomo@stopthefomo So what is the best Led TV made until today?

​@@fabicdesfor Picture quality x95k and x95l

X95L is doing very VERY well

@@stopthefomo what about X95K?

​@@Kobzar666The X95K is good but apparently only at 85". A different panel was used for the sizes below 85" so the smaller sets were not as good.

@@Kobzar666I have the 75’ x95K and i absolutely love it. i have a super bright room and the tv gets so bright. there’s some blooming but it’s really not a dealbreaker , unless you always have subtitles on or something

​@birdtj82 sharp isn't better then sony. Hell no. They kinda pulling off what hisense is doing just not in the USA.

This TV is amazing me. Just got it last week.

Are you saying the Q7 looks better than the QM8?

No. The Qm8 will look better in many ways, but the q7 is no slouch. Qm8 will get much brighter, and colors will "pop" more. However, the contrast in both TVs is similar, and in dark scenes, the q7 will not crush blacks as much as the qm8, for example.@@tomtube1012

is there any ghosting or blur when panning the camera in games?

How is it?

@@sberry55it sucks

i couldnt afford the sony lol

The thing is tho most ppl under 45 do not watch blue ray 4k. It’s like forcing a Narritive that is just harder by year. :) and i do hear ya. Cuz if they are using upscaling but ONLY making the panel best at $3000 to look so good but making the 1200-2200 range look like bad deal. It’s JUST not worth it. Not worth it. 😅

Another thing to point out is the compatibility mode with the PS5. Few TVs respond to the way they respond to the PS5.

@@alfredsnyder329 interesting :) what happens when use diff tv then ?

@@alfredsnyder329 good point

yeah, i owned a u7k for a bout a week, and different content looked terrible. motion was awful, and detail in dark scenes was awful

Just picked one up,and compared to my Sony A80j ,I actually prefer the brightness of the TCL.

You're basically referring to the Sony X95L which sadly only comes in 85" (for USA) - maybe the 65" Sharp with 2000 zones and miniLED will be that TV this year?

@@stopthefomo very interested to see how that performs

Yeah, it would be interesting to see how a Sony with 1,000 dimming zones would perform. The X95L seemed to be very close to Sony's reference monitor and it has 480 dimming zones. Doubling that would certainly improve it but I do wonder if you'd be able to see a difference. On the other hand, I do suspect that tripling the X90L's to 240 would produce very similar results to the X95L which is very important for subtitles.

@@stopthefomo hey I am so excited to SHARP. I had their LED , they were land slide 🛝 crushing SONY. They didnt spend enough money advertising tho. Super glad Sharp came back to USA. They left the -premium TV space long ago only selling their premiums in Japan/China. N they are like d G3 price there lol.

​@@stopthefomoWhat model is a sharp that you're talking about

CORRECT. It does make me look smarter, it's all about perception - the minute the glasses come off, I'm suddenly less authoritative for some reason. Imagine how much smarter Barbie looks if she wore my glasses? BOOM

Lol it’s an Asian thing . I had a gf keeps doing it . Its like ppl used to wear watch they feel weird not using it .

I was thinking the same thing, the x90L was doing better due to the processing so would be interesting to see how much a difference the same processing with Mini LED would make

Enjoy the bloom

Man thats good to know, as i did consider a QM8, but too many issues ive heard with TCL for last few yrs. My 2 yr old Hisense U8G still going strong with zero issues…

Yep. That "Sony Tax" doesn't look so bad now that you're on your 3rd purchase, right? I bet the Sony would have been CHEAPER in the long run and you'd have a better tv that still works.

I've had this issue with Hisense tvs, never bought another one.

​@@pboissiei have an hisense u7a from 2018 and it is going strong and though it is edge lit it is still a brillant set.

@@Cigma-e7w must have had the cheap models pre - U8G as ive never heard anyone mention major failiures with 2021 and later Hisense. This is was my first “off brand” purchase by the way, always got Sonys, Samsungs and LGs….and only samsungs failed on me eventually

Spot on.. For people not willing to pay 4k+ Sony isnt the answer

These "deep blacks" are only visible in a dark room so BB showroom is not always the best, and more importantly, it depends on the content. For example, in the movie 1917, shadow detail together with deep blacks really make some scenes pop whereas in Aquaman or Infinity Wars? Deep blacks not as important.

Also TCL use 1.0 Color toner. Hisense USE PREMIUM 3.0 color toner same as d BIG 3. So its REALLY hard “under sell” to make a --Narritive lol. Cuz Hisense U8 U7…are d premium. 😮

@@birdtj82 LOL let's get this cleared up. I bought the Sony X90L from Best Buy and most importantly, Sony has hated me ever since I posted the X900H VRR fiasco three years ago. Sony has never EVER sent me a TV for review - I've had to buy them all myself. The only TVs ever sent to me for review have been TCL (but not recently, I've also had to buy the QM8 and R646 from Best Buy) and Hisense loaned me the U8K, U7K (both returned). Believe me when I say that I have been Sony's harshest critic (or did you miss my scathing review of the X95K last year, which I also bought) and this is the first time I've liked the entry level X90 model! As far as LG, they definitely don't like me and like Sony, they also do not send me any TVs for review - I've had to buy those too. I welcome loaner TV units for sure, but I always say it as it is because I don't mind buying TVs when I need to.

@@stopthefomo hey…thx for taking the time to explain. Okay 👌 that shows a lot of gratitude. And sorry for putting u thru the hurt. And yes a lot of FAke influencers online n it’s REally hard to differentiate who’s real vs NOT. We all know most TV reviewer/tech reviewer/ car reviews are like biased to promote certain mode/brand etc. so consumers are under a lot of stress. But def u have my highest respect. I am going to delete that comment shortly n u have my biggest apology. And yes u are my top TV trusted review guide. I hope 🤞 my response give u good hope. I know we all make mis judgement time to time , but most ppl have decency to re exam . Thx 🙏 for being a good guy. HUG! Ps i am Chinese. We learn to be calm n having decency. So i see that in u. :)

@@birdtj82 Although the only problem with Hisense is that it uses a native 8bit panel not 10bit which causes some issues with HDR.

Lol … so much for this vid

For 600 cheaper you are getting deeper blacks and slightly less detail in the highlights. If you aren't a reference accurate guy, the qm8 can be driven a lot harder when it comes to color saturation and things like that. So keep that in mind depending on how you like to watch

@@paulcox2447 thanks. I’m like everyone else. I want it all. OLED blacks, Sony processing, LED juice. Lol. I’m leaning towards ponying up another $500 and grabbing a 77” A80L.

Our living room isn’t a super bright environment. Thinking it will work.

When did you buy the 65” Sony at Costco? My local is like $1199.

@barbarashissias9567 this past Monday 10/16 LIC NY and it wasn't a display model.

is there any ghosting or blur when panning the camera in games?

@PcGamingForFun I really do t play games on it but the TV is great for watching cable TV and movies

And could one use the settings to beat the Sony?

I think it's a bit of reach to expect a company to make a device better than it is when they can jist do that next year. It would be diff if it was a bug or a small feature.

@@asole100 I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect software improvements or big fixes at least within the first year of the product launch. This is a brand new model after all.

Brian (techtherapy) will be doing that video!

should of bought smaller tv 85 inch tvs ae garrish ugly

No

Gotta disagree with you about the contrast - it's consistently good. Issues may stem from poor tone mapping which is software or bad DV processing which is also software, self-emissive delivers best in class contrast with QD-OLED taking a farther leap by offering better color luminance and color purity at wider viewing angles. Burn-in and ABL will always fall behind the flagship LCD TVs, as there are no perfect TVs but the absolute strength of OLED is definitely contrast (whether it's truly "infinite" is a different issue)

How did it go?

I'm switching my 2014 Panasonic plasma for an 85 x90l soon

Sure thing, but keep in mind all my livestream comparisons I have an OLED TV like the G3, S90C or S95C there for comparison with LCD TVs and OLED is better in challenging scenes 10% of the time while the other 90% they are very VERY similar!

At 12:07 you can see the oled (g3) smashing the led Sony and mini led tcl to pieces in the starfield. That’s the biggest difference for me. Blooming vs infinite contrast.

You forgot to consider the Sony processing in this equation.

You most likely will. Especially on terms of contrast and HDR performance. Your current tv is using an IPS Panel with low contrast ratio. Oled will blow your mind :-)

Thanks for replying. I've been unable to find any online discussion or review of the 65U75K with mini led tech which Costco has on sale for $699.99, so I'm not sure what U75K means. The model number is very close to U8K. Do you know about this model? Is it a private label model U8K just for Costco? Of course, no one at Costco has an answer. What do you think? Thanks again.

no because it costs more to make mini LED Tvs and most people don't care that much about picture quality so companies will continue to make regular LCD Tvs who will buy TVs for the cheapest possible price. I doubt the production costs of Mini LED will come down enough that companies are willing to mass produce as low end/cheap TVs

So to be clear, a QLED TV is simply an LCD TV that uses quantum dots in the backlight system with the only difference being that QLED is Samsung's trademark for the quantum dot technology but Hisense also uses quantum dots in its ULED TVs - ultimately, they are all LCD TVs. All premium LCD TVs today (over $800) are using quantum dots in their backlight so essentially these premium LCD TVs are all QLED now!

@@stopthefomo Thanks for clearing that up. There are so many kinds of TVs today, its hard to keep track of them all.

It’s like car industry, there always ppl in need of “just a car” for utility reasons. I went to fast food restaurant, i saw all the Hisense ROKU tv as their menu. N bunch of other cheap TVs. There always market for Cheap/simple ,,,:) 😅

The issue is cost, it gets exponentially more expensive to up the dimming zone counts supposedly. I doubt we'll ever see an LCD TV with over 900,000 dimming zones tbh. It would either cost more than OLED by a wide margin, or by the time we'd get there, MicroLED TV's would probably be getting cost competitive and readily available, and superior to LCD in every way.

@@shugo7337 I'm saying it would be a cheaper option to manufacture than direct view MicroLED, especially for future 8K resolutions in TV's 65" or smaller, because they wouldn't have to get the individual LED's so small, but still have a near perceptible contrast. Having 900,000 individual LED's will be a lot easier to achieve than 33 million.

Don't a lot of those apps still provide higher quality 4k content tho? I know Disney+ has a ton of Dolby Vision/Atmos and all that

@@Briballdo I admit I'm not an expert, but I know you have to pay more for 4k youtubetv and Prime Video offers HD (1080p I assume) at a lower price for rentals than UHD. Also, I don't think your stream will always be perfect quality depending on your connection, so many people rarely watch UHD/4k. If you are buying a TV at $1000 or under there's a very good chance you aren't watching top quality content.

@@therationalpiper7428 Yeah good point. It's hard to compare these TVs because in person they basically only play the demo videos at absolute max quality. And then reviewers will basically only focus on the super high quality content as well. I'm really curious how "normal" 1080p or 4k content from streaming apps does on these TVs

@@Briballdo Right, and I posted the comment here after seeing part of his long comparison of u8k, QM8, Q7 and U7k. I didn't even realize that the processing mattered so much more for the content that I usually watch.