Now we wait for Victor to see this and say you're half right

Another reason why Thomas isn't dead, The Sodor Short "What happens to a Non-Faceless engine's face when it dies?" stated that the face disappears, this was confirmed in the SCP's of Sodor episode "A Troublesome Engine" where when Johnny Cuba died his face disappeared, now you could say that Geoffrey and Peter's faces still being there when they died was due to the still having a bit of life left, but were essentially brain-dead. All this plus the points you made and the short "What are your faces made of?" tell us that Thomas isn't dead, but it'll take quite some time to repair/rebuild/overhaul him, so when, not if, WHEN Thomas returns everyone will be informed of the truth and things will return to normal for Sodor with the return of their Number 1.

I asked for this and you certainly delivered my friend. I also would’ve brought up Victor’s comment of the fact Fallout isn’t the last time we see Thomas. Also Victor is playing his death off too lightly as seen in Stories of Xmas and Sodor Answers.

In light of the most recent Sodor Answers, we can safely say that Thomas is undeniably alive.

I mean, a ton of green water just like with Barry in the same season? Yea, if Thomas is alive, he’s probably in a long, long coma

This is a Mini-Theory I made, I wasn't going to make it, but it would suck to leave you guys without at least a Before New Year's Eve Video, so here it is.

Stories of Sodor is fascinating since it went from a "Thomas but with TUGS elements adapted" and got legit theories around it.

I agree with your theory. Thomas could just be in a coma and like with Barry, a little bump could make him come out of it. What I personally would like to happen is Francis (Spamcan) goes over a rough section of track which gives Thomas a jolt to awake him up An overjoyed Francis takes Thomas back to Sodor to be restored

While I did say that I think Thomas is dead, if he does come back then these are the stories I wanna see: - Mr. Hall inventing a chemical that treats damage to the face and trying it out on Thomas. - Thomas and Kate falling in love again and tying the knot - This concept was brought up in Relationships, so seeing these two getting married is a good idea. - An adaptation of Thomas and the special letter - You can’t have that episode without Thomas - Thomas getting his late revenge on Burk for sabotaging him in 1938 - Thomas perhaps also going throw SDC while being repaired

Now that I think about it, BARRY was thought to be dead, but he wasn't. In fact, he was brought back via the use of older engine parts, which Thomas would be SURROUNDED with on the island! So Victor COULD be setting up the idea of him returning!

My Theory on what could happen: As the Men at Barry Isle try to work on Thomas they see that he is damaged beyond repair. Knowing how much of an Impact Thomas had on the world however and not wanting to let it be forgotten they start building a replica of Thomas using parts from the original. This Thomas would have a few differences such as a flat running board for example but still have the memories of the original as parts from it were used during the building process but he would also be aware of the fact he is a replica. Thomas Mk2 would leave Barry Isle and return to Sodor while the original is scrapped. Thomas Mk2 would continue the work of its predecessor while hiding the truth about him being a replica from the others.

I'd personally say that considering we have the spirit tunnel that can resurect dead characters/engines due to the supernatural presences in the world, its always an option for Thomas to be brought back. While this theory is interesting, I personally thing Victor will end up using some form of the SCP foundation's presence to bring him back-

I knew it!! I know you said it’s just a theory but I saw a comment from Victor Tanzig himself from Miles Lee (ConrailFan76) videos saying in I quote “This isn’t the last you’ll see of Thomas”. I also told myself to have hope that he will survive and it sounds like it is a possibility. Also I like how you brought up the railway series in that Wilbert wouldn’t be writing about Thomas in his last story unless he was alive, so yeah it could definitely happen. Like you said maybe around 1971 Thomas will wake up on Barry Island and the story of a certain episode will start from there

I beat you to the Barry Island bit by a good few days, but yeah, I also reckon he’ll end up being preserved by a preservation group browsing the scrapyard, to which they’ll reconstruct his face and totally overhaul him to running order, ending up with similar events to his trip to York in the books, and ending with him returning to Sodor

Thomas was topped up with Green Water the entire time, as was Barry the engine. I highly doubt Barry would've been brought in when he was if his story/fate was meaningless.

I’m seeing some other theories touch on this, so I’ll compile elements of them into my own theory. Thomas survived the explosion initially because his cab was protecting his boiler. Since he’s a relatively young Steamie, he likely doesn’t have metal fatigue yet, so it would take a lot to knock him out completely… unlike Peter. He is likely going to be extra “high” on Green Water for the next god knows how long he’ll spend on Barry Island, and when he wakes up, he’ll likely ask about the war, since his last memory was of an explosion. I had a theory ages ago on another channel’s comments section, thinking that if SCPs of Sodor is getting a s2, then Thomas is collected by The Foundation, likely moved out under a frontispiece of “Sussex Central Planning,” before getting repaired and treated for PTSD and working as either a Non-Faceless MTF agent, or an imbedded agent within the Railway Inspector’s Unit

I made the same theory a few days ago. However, i made a bit of a different theory. It's, about that Derek said Green Water, when, if Thomas was dead, it's black water needed. I explained this in my Video you can watch, hopefully Victor does so too

Hey dude, great video! You’ve earned yourself a subscriber, just 2 things I’d like to say. Another point to support your theory is that “he was unconscious most of the time” and “we made sure he was filled to the brim with green water” so that implies that he might be in some kind of coma. The other thing I wanted to say was my own theory, what if Thomas comes back like Arthur? If engines are reincarnations of humans (like we see in scps of sodor) who’s to say that the same couldn’t happen with other engines? It can also explain why thomas is always seen as so young even though he’s more than 100 years old.

If Thomas is still living, just Imagine if he has amnesia and travels round England under a new identity for a while. I can imagine a scene where he has to be dragged back to Sodor by force and he's like "Help I'm being kid...err trainnapped!"

Hmm, my theory is that Thomas is not dead, because his face is not missing. But, it seems to me, Sir Topham Hatt had 2 options, either to restore Thomas, which could hit the finances of the railway very hard, or to send Thomas to Barry Island.

Thomas died due to his injuries while he was unconcious since engines are like humans if someone got badly injured and put in a coma they have a posibilaty of dyng now we can apply this to thomas

Okay but look back in previous seasons about Arthur They said Arthur was killed in the 1920s in a crashed. But another Arthur came to Sodor in the 50s with the same name, same letters same everything and that one was built in the 40s. So my theorie is another Thomas will come to Sodor.... But that is might not be the case now i think about it because Thomas is an E2 LBSCR Class tank engine and only 13 were built and by 1963 all of them met the cutter's torch so that might not be the case but Thomas never mentioned his siblings so maybe...

With the railway series connection, you could argue that Christopher kept writing about him due to him being in the books for so long and him just disappearing would seem odd to readers

I also knew what Victor was doing when he said Thomas was going to Barry Island

Well, I was planning on making a Thomas theory video, but it seems you and a others beat me to the punch 😂. Great theory by the way! Hope its true.

I mean, this theory is what I hope, but not what I think'll happen.

I think the idea is that Thomas is dead, but might replace by another engine made to look and act like Thomas (A replica), something a animation creator toy with the idea on his fan made channel (not saying victor are collating or the stories related), but idea of a replica Thomas being made which can have few stories with it.

This all makes total sense, I really hope you are right and that Thomas didn't die.

To me Thomas is one of my favorite characters from the show and the Thomas world because he’s a character that I can relate to and for him to be gone but hopefully you’re right about your theory of him coming back like for some reason he gets moved around and comes out of his comma and is fine but that’s a pretty BIG IF though which I like to stay positive but this one is hard to swallow

Good theory, I don't think Victor would put "To be continued" at the end of Munitions and let Thomas die in the next episode. I also don't think that Barry Isle would be mentioned without some purpose in the future, and that's what shows that it will. Just to add on, the entire theme of S5 was the Hall's, which was foreshadowed all the way back in S2. I highly doubt Thomas is going to appear in the next season, cuz it kinda ruins the entire idea of Thomas dying. I think that Thomas is going to appear in the first episode of S7 OR the last episode of S6.

Victor said this isn’t the last time we will see Thomas on a video by The nostalgic multiverse where he reacts to the episode Fallout

I have a theory that Thomas will come back as a ghost and maybe Victor could have a scene similar to Amends where Alfred talks to Geoffrey it could have a similar scene where Thomas talks to either Percy Kate or Annie and Clarabelle

Thomas face looks like the one of sodor dark realm

With how they used Green Water with Thomas, He's most likey in some sort of coma

I think the biggest evidence for me that Thomas isn't dead is how the stories of sodor has based most of its episodes around with some of the engine taking on the characters traits. I'm talking about TUGS. Now like I said, the main world engine took on these traits. Gordon as tophat, Edward as Hercules, Percy as Sunshine, etc. And our beloved number 1, Tencents. And as we all know from the original munitions episode, he too got blown and survived, badly damaged but survived. Victor may have up the game with a whole "Thomas didn't make it" scene but if we go by TUGS logic then he did. Extremely damaged but and engine worth salvaging. Especially if the queen gets word of his survival.

I actually figured this theory that that would wake up at Barry scrapyard before hand

Can’t wait to see this on victors next community post 😂❤

Apparently somewhere Victor said that Thomas would be seen again.

Sodor Answers Is Canon To The Sodor Shorts, Not The Stories of Sodor. It Was a Joke Answer. But The Fact, You Included It To Your Theory Is Interesting.

Maybe the mysterious cave from the SCP stories comes into play 🤨

I want to say you're right, though the Sodor Answers video about what material their faces are made of might have just been a response to the question I left in the comments a few weeks prior on the "Can non-faceless vehicles drive themselves" video. As for the RWS, I think the rule would only apply to characters the Reverend hadn't introduced yet, so I don't think Thomas's appearance in Tramway Engines contradicts that. But the Barry Island bit has to be something.

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I sure hope thomas isn't dead

Victor did drop a comment on a reaction video for Fallout which goes along the lines of "This isn't the last time you'll see Thomas". Perhaps a good episode title for that could be Resurrection or Reunion. If the theories are true, then we could expect Thomas to wake up at Barry Island, surrounded by several husks of other faceless and non-faceless engines. This would cause a stir, and the news would eventually spread to Sodor, with everyone being overjoyed at the fact that Thomas managed to survive. Arrangements would soon be made to bring Thomas back to Sodor where he belongs, but not without some difficulty. Eventually, Thomas crosses the Walney Channel and returns home, with many waiting at Crovan's Gate for his gallant return (basically, the reverse of how he was sent off). Being scarred and battered, Thomas greets his old friends, and soon enough, work begins to get him back into working order, which also includes undergoing Steam-Diesel Conversion to increase his longevity. Eventually, after months of hard work, Thomas emerges from the works a new engine. Perhaps he wears an eyepatch for a while to hide the damage on his face if it never grows back. The basis for this is that in the Railway Series, Sir Handel wears an eyepatch after a tree branch injures his eye when he goes to Wales.

4:30-4:40 YO! I COMMENTED THAT LINE LAST TIME YOU MADE A STORIES OF SODOR THEORY!🙀

has anyone noticed that victor also makes a few videos with engines that are going to die in the series

You need to rebrand into train theory or something like that, Anyway- your theory is probably correct as Victor (hopefully) isn’t that stupid to remove A MAIN CHATACTER from his series

Victor Tanzig did confirmed that Thomas is returning in Stories Of Sodor Season 6.

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If Victor does go this general route, one way to ensure it has consequences is having Thomas suffer from amnesia, and the other engines try to help him remember.

My theory is, the original stories of sodor was based off tugs, it then branched off of tugs based episodes for 3 seasons, so, this new season shows munitions, a tugs based episode, with a twist, I think that due to a bad autopsy that was quick and a brush over, this means Thomas was mistakenly pronounced dead, thus leading to a funeral and send off for the little Tankie, this couples with your theory with Barry and Thomas being all the same, Thomas wakes up as the cutters start lighting their torches and wonder why the engine just screamed, thus he is sent to crovans gate, then kill Dane, and found exactly like barry

Woah woah train theory Whats next Car theory?

My theory is that another E2 would have his first firing after being restored or rescued from Barry Island. He comes back the same way Arthur did.

I’m waiting for the “you’re half right” but I don’t think he’s gonna confirm it.

the second you got into the barry island stuff, i figured it out good job to you, and im hoping this is correct.

has NO ONE here have watched tugs before hes gonna come back.

You know this reminds me of the CGI series. Thomas was restored and shipped to the island of sodor for continued service. Specifically, rebuilt In the movie showing Thomas's arrival they talk about a new engine arriving on the island. And that it had been so long since the last one. IE Thomas "died" was scrapped, repaired, and shipped back to sodor under a new name and life despite being the same engine

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Thomas is dead in the second part of the episode Because in the universe of trains, they wouldn’t survive this accident only Thomas there only because he was in a coma for that short time. And loss of blood, which is cool and much more and it would also factor your face is half missing so all of your blood basically just ran out and the only remaining one is going to factor if you are going to come or not.

another thing is that though Tramway Engines is set in 1964, the foreword for it is likely more recent, probably 1971 or 1972, and it mentions Thomas' ego causing the Reverend to put Ghost Train in the book out of spite.

Regarding what the engines' faces are made of, I looked ABS up and, while it's used in a variety of ways, the one that stuck out to me the most was protective headgear. Emphasis on protective. If that isn't Victor telling us that Thomas is still alive, I don't know what is.

My theory is the arthur incident. He's brought back to life but he has no memories so he's a new engine

Acrylonitrile butadiene styrene aka what the vehicles faces are made of is the same polymer that legos are used for so could they sculpt Thomas’s face with Lego and would it fuse together with his face and become a full face?

I wonder what Victor has to say about this

I though the exact same thing when I watched fallout for the first time when Victor said he was going to Barry Island

I think this is where i stop watching stories of sodor. I wish victor had gone all in on thomas' death for this season or wrote it out entirely. It feels half assed and rushed for a character who, even if his time had come, deserved more than a mere 2 characters mourning on screen and several silent scenes. And if thomas comes back then that would be the worst thing he could do in my opinion

I always and still do hold the belief that any characters that or original to the series (ie: Reginald, Sam, Mickey, Benson, etc) have plot armor and Victor wouldn’t kill them off. Coupled with all this here (which most of it I already thought about myself) I am almost certain he isn’t dead.

Thinking the same thing when Victor said Barry’s Island

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i want to believe this theory but unfortunatly i don't, it doesn't feel right to let thomas die but it also doesn't feel right to kill of the main character only to bring him back in the next season. knowing victor, it is possible but i personally do not YET believe it

I hope your right about this theory because the ending of victor tanzigs season 5 was like a rock landing in my stomach

might be the same case as with Brian, who died during a bombing in WW2, got rebuild and came back i'd assume Thomas would be similarly scarred for being in a purgatory-like state as the former

Personal I think him returning is possible with all the possibilities Victor has given himself. I mean it could be like the Path of the Dead or something as simple as he was in a deep coma from green water or something completely out of left field or he is just dead and his memory will live on.

Derek did say "They poured GREEN water into his tank"

I agree with this theory. At Season 6 or 7, I hope Thomas (who was in a heavy coma, within a near-death experience, all along) will be miraculously revived and restored by a professional, who will make things right with custom made parts to match the E2s, and then Thomas will return to Sodor with all of the engines feeling happy and overjoyed like the explosion never happened within a very long episode entitled: "Revival". Think of it Victor if you're seeing this theory, everybody would love to witness Thomas's revival and return home to Sodor. You could watch the documentary movie "After Death" which you could get inspiration from.

I would agree. I don’t think Thomas is dead.

I had made a comment under that video that had my speculations about Thomas being dead, I will quote it here "Has anyone else noticed when Douglas is talking to Derek about Thomas they said did he suffer? Then Derek replies with a no and says they gave him green water. They don't give green water to a dead engine. I don't know about you but something tells me Thomas isn't dead." my reply to someone here " I just realized around the time of 1965 Barry Island scrapyards had people break into it and also had a lot of engines restored."

Also after the death of mickey the conversation between donald and derek derek mentions: thomases tanks were filled to the brim with green water

victor confirmed he isn’t dead, so, yeah

I'm going to post something here, and please don't call it a 'crackpot conspiracy theory'. If you've heard the "Jinty" theory, well I'm the origin to that, and I'm about to list it here. I will also provide detail of the origin of this theory in with it. The short "don't want to read" of the theory, is that it's a case of mistaken identity, and that isn't Thomas, but is another locomotive named Jinty, and Thomas (though injured) is somewhere else at the harbor. So, on to the details: In Awdry's writing, there is a reference to another locomotive that appeared in 1956 on the island, on loan from British Railways. Jinty could be easily mistaken for Thomas, though his livery was BR black. Jinty stayed on the island, reportedly, until sometime in the 1960's, when he mysteriously vanished. Story wise, this is simply because Awdry consolidated his cast of characters, and simply 'wrote off' Jinty. However, various Thomas fandoms have picked up on this and featured him to some degree in their fan stories. I propose that Victor is doing just that here. I theorize that Jinty has been on the island since 1956, though he's primarily been working in an around the docks, as well as working for the "Other Railway". Victor's cast of characters have met him, and worked with him, but no stories have been recorded about them, as Edward, our main storyteller, hasn't seen anything overly memorable about Jinty. He's a hard worker, but always just kind of faded into the background. Keeping with him being on loan, with such a major job as the Krakatoa ship loading, and "all hands" being called to help with it, it does stand to reason that BR wouldn't hesitate to move Jinty there to help. The other engines didn't notice him there that night, because 1.) it was dark and Jinty is painted black, and 2.) because of the chaos of the fire and what was happening. I propose that this is the point when Jinty "stepped in" so to speak. Thomas was backing up with the flaming tank car, and then ran into some trouble with it. The brakes began to melt, and he cut away from it to escape. Jinty, who knew the danger it held, tried to pull it further away to get Thomas clear. However the tank car "blew up in his face" as we see from the damage. Jinty is killed, while Thomas is buried under rubble, or falls off into the harbor. Evidence why this is plausible: 1.) Jinty should be on the island around this time anyway. Victor has pretty closely followed Awdry's books and overall timeline, so it makes sense to have him there. 2.) Jinty and Thomas are close enough in design that if Jinty's paint were burned away, then he'd easily be mistaken for Thomas. 3.) The simple fact that the model that Victor used, was a locomotive where any and all identifying marks were burned away. 4.) The damage to the locomotive, and statements from the other engines say the tank car "blew up in its face". Thomas had the car coupled to his rear. So you'd expect more damage to his bunker, not his face. 5.) The damage at the harbor is such that even by the end of the episode, it's clearly stated that they were still finding things. Such as the bomb which killed Micky. It's implied it will take quite some time to fix, and that there are a large number of collapsed buildings, and piers. 6.) The locomotive in question was sent to Barry Island, and not broken up on site. That I think, is a writing point, as if the engine were broken up by people who KNEW Thomas, and had worked on him, then they'd pick up on the differences between Jinty and Thomas. Thus: Thomas is still alive, though badly injured. Either buried in rubble, or at the bottom of the harbor. Jinty was killed, and due to his injuries and damage, has been mistaken for him.

Also in the intro for fallout we can clearly see thomas in it so thats another hint

i think you could make the argument that the railway series and stories of sodor are completely different canons and books may have not been relesed in the SOS canon that were in real life

its not a theory. its a fact. theres a discord server that im in and someone emailed him and victor said it was true

Maybe Victor is planning on making a Second SCP videos

Honestly i really hope Thomas doesnt survive, because come on, Geoffrey dies apparently on impact of What is a pretty mid crash, Peter dies from 3 bullets and metal cancer, and Thomas just survives an explosion that takes a half of his face. Not that i want Thomas to be dead, but if he can survive, why can't the others?

You might be right I mean if was really dead then the Railway series and the whole franchise itself would be tarnished I think that sir topham Hatt’s son sir Charles hatt might find Thomas and since Thomas’s face is on the smoke boxes door he might get the idea to put the door on a different locomotive most likely an E2x cause that’s the engine he was based on in the books series which will bring Thomas out of the coma it’s just my thoughts

If you ask me victor should do another Barry styled episode where Thomas wakes up and be like where am I

In a short were Percy had to get blown up by a tanker and then they make a rewrite in the script and Eric is going to get blown up but he survives beacause of some gogles. Also Salty is suposed to bring the tankers. Odd coincidence Salty a docks diesel brings it and Edward says to Percy before the rewrite that he had to die beacause of character developtment and i don't think that Thomas' arc or character development. Thank you for the amazing theory.

I hope that much of this turns out very true. It should.

I do believe Thomas will return 7 years later.

I pray to God that your Theroy is true.

Well I mean another thing that confirms this is that in the most recent short video James says that he's healed Thomas and then it cuts to it being with no fish and on fire

But what if they decided to make the book a tribute to thomas

(Disconnected theory) Barry actually died. Since Sir Topham Hatt said "im amazed hes even alive" im pretty sure he died. Maybe they put red water instead of green water in to him and he died. He is sent to scrapyards until he ends up in killdane. Somewhere around that time he gets revived kinda like in path of the dead.

Well looks like i was a bit late getting a project out, good video and interesting points, i feel like thomas isnt gonna die

Now we wait for the next stories of Sodor seasons to see if this is right I hope it is

Thomas is probably in a coma-like state

and also, thomas shouldnt be dead since whel any non faceless engines dies, their face is covered up