Right it makes no sense

His brain is scrambled

You'd think having a giant brain like his would make you smarter, but instead, he's just a psychopath who doesn't believe mark is a hero

@@lordevolder9907 I was giving him the benefit of the doubt until he was attacking Debbie and Oliver. Like come on man...how're you so delusional to believe what you're doing is right? I get wanting to fuck up Mark for what you think is revenge, but the other people had nothing to do with it.

@@supahmariostyle all those memories of his altered really killed him man, his big head is packing all of those bad memories of all evil marks, him losing his mind from his alternatives self it's what making him delusional, also making "him" hard to believe that this universe's Mark is a good one, It's almost like when William birkin trying to control himself after mutating into a monster by the g virus, losing his mind on each mutation. It's all because of their faults.

Lmao i hope they changed it during the show, where they show atleast 17 alternate marks survive and they all get stranded into that dimension, instead of 7 remaining alive

Nah I like the idea of the other marks getting defeated because it shows that it's possible for other heroes to end viltrumites

@@spade565 that makes it worse. That totally defeats the idea of viltruimites. Given that all the versions of mark are weaker than a full bloodied viltruimites but still.

​@@anobody8749viltrumite meatrider alert. Stop yapping about how big and strong and you want them to be inside you. It's proven already that not all Earthlings are useless against viltrumites.

I mean confidence can be detrimental lol, but i feel like in his case it could have been his father holding back because he deep down loved his son which is how he got the dubb to begin with unbeknownst to him.

Fr. By sheer luck he didn’t become a weapon of destruction like his counterparts. If he did our world would be doomed

not really. remember the arc with the mad scientist dinosaur? or how he eventually became a supposedly benevolent dictator of the entire galaxy?

​@@alexsolomon8127 Dictatorship is better than the flawed concept of democracy we have

​@@zaidkapadia6824tell that to ppl like stalin

@@fordgt5383 We have many sickos in democracy too who have arguably done worse than Stalin

And needing to drink your own sweat to survive and almost killed by said cannibal Mark, I think part of him changed from being an outright villain. He’s still evil but I imagine he lost a lot of his edge after the whole event.

​@@evanlight2550"He had to drink his sweat, and other bodily fluids..."

I like how Rudy is given a clone of mohawk Marks body to take over and the Mauler that was left had oppurtunity to do good too.

​@@BlahBohogunIts a shame like so many other potential plot points this one was never touched on again.

I feel like all these alternate marks were really weak...

@@UnderratedVoice24why is that?

@@aaronwells2267he killed spawn of his universe

@@anobody8749 I know that but that doesn’t answer my question lol

@@aaronwells2267 I’m not sure if you know but spawn is supposed to be the most powerful character in the universe.

​@@anobody8749 still that doesn't answer his question Lol

I wonder if that's a factor leading him to become evil (mess up mental state leading to becoming a villian)

Just to get killed by a fucking yo-yo 🤦🏼‍♂️ that shit better not be in the show

@@bigmac4325 That Omni-man must've been super fucking weak. Below yo-yo level.

@@goofy855 we are scaling to yo-yos now? that is insane 💀

​​@@bigmac4325 Mad Man Is a Realitybender, respect the yoyo, man!

Yeah that was dumb lol

That omni man had to be a fraud

Lesson here: *DON'T FUCK WITH MADMAN*

Yoyo solos both Thragg and Battle Beast

@@thelonesage3146Not really.

really living up to your name spammy

not really. Most of them killed omni man.

They’re all far worse than Omni-Man

@@user-tl3fv5ub6e i mean if you kill another Viltrumite it's usualy not seen as a crime but as a show of strenght and capability.So yeah by human morals he is a monster but by Viltrumite rules he is a skilled and ruthless warrior worthy of respect.

@@ReboundProdigy yeah but if they were to meet Omni Man beafore Mark softened his heart he would either ask them to join him,fight them so that they can prove their worth or just let them do their thing.

But then suddendly spawn, a undead demon (king) of hell struggles to kill one lmao

I imagine it would have to do with underestimating them if anything

​@@jimmyneutron5679I'm guessing Spawn kills him in the show. The comic just showed a cool still image for the sake of it

These alternate universes marks could just be weaker than out mark.

​@@angusalvarado3064 i have a similar theory, i suspect that, since these are different universes, the power scale of each universe is different, maybe they got the same powers, but their strenght is inferior to their other universe versions, as an example, in a universe, rex-plode's explossions might be equal to a nuke in power, but in a different universe, it might be just as powerful as a grenade, another thing that could take place in these cases is the resistance of each species in each universe, maybe in og mark's universe humans are just like us resistance wise, but maybe in, let's say, evil mark 5's universe, humans are as fragile as a stick

You would be wrong

That's just your own fan fiction, buddy. You came up with that shit yourself. Nothing, anywhere, so much as vaguely implies that. You just wanted to think about something fucked up, so you did.

Cannibal mark wasnt a cannibal then, it was only after he was stranded for weeks.

@@joshuaremonde7708He openly admitted that he enjoyed practicing cannibalism in his dimension

@@shteatinggrin oh shi I forgot about that, ye ur right but in this one he’s full on psychotic cannibal.

He was plaqued with bad art...

Viltrumites are tough sure, but they are not unbeatable. Days of fighting and taking damage will add up.

I don't know the dude. I have respect for him. But why does the wording just breathe "somehow Palpatine returned"

Seriously, the amount of people coming in here not knowing who or what these other Image characters are all about is telling lol

@blumoon131 Honestly hear you. I am debating getting into the comics.

Use your brain. Alternate mark killed a spawn in his own universe, not the mainstream spawn. You literally see an image of spawn strangling alternate mark to death.

True I was kinda confused how Spawn lost

Well you gotta remember that in a multiverse there's literally infinite possibilities. So there's a world where he did kill spawn and a world where he didn't. Big brain dude thinks he's the only one like him the the multiverse but he's not. Just like there's a comic version there's the TV version, they're both 2 different people existing in the multiverse doing almost identical things at best there's just less of him yet still infinite. That's kinda why it doesn't really matter what hero is stronger then who, were following the funnest most interesting possibilities.

Its a diferent spaw

​@@Chiefteeth1I was gonna say that the Alt Spawn he killed might not have been as strong or experienced in his abilities

?????? He’s the worst 1

Besides sinister

​@MaureenMurphy_ i would argue that alt mark 4 is more evil than Mohawk Mark since, he kinda killed his mom. Mohawk Mark isn't said to have done that

Oh, he is completly human. Just not the noble kind of human.

Yeah he is pretty much an evil mirror to the main Mark.

he got nothing on the Mustache Mark

I like how he actually genuinely likes Normal Mark once he gets to know him.

I like sinister mark

@@Killer-kv6zb Sinister Mark sounds like a combination of Joker and Hanibal Lector.

One of them is old and the other is bald or with a buzz cut

Best guess, Rachel Summers from Marvel like when she was a Hound

scarlet witch

@@Dannybienny3182Are you talking about the Eve from S2E1 and the futureEve that rescued stranded Mark? Those Eves aren’t evil.

Probably the same, she would just be an empress type of woman that knows she's powerful and knows how to use it, she and Mark together would rule the galaxy pretty easily since they counter their flaws and are the voice of the reason of each other

We are all at the end of the day products of our environments and those who raise us.

Honestly some of those marks should hopefully be fleshed out more in the show. Their designs and brief backstories are too interesting to kill them all off with nothing.

Honestly hoping we get 1 off episodes of each mark variant and their worlds as we get closer and closer to the war so they can die like they do in the comics but so their deaths have weight. Although I disagree with moustache mark because our mark has to pretend to be him eventually and it’s easier for him to rip his hair out then wait to grow a moustache.

Well alot of people did straight up die in this arc and the shit that the invincible war caused is felt all the way till the end of the story so its technically the best take of the superhero multiverse bs yet imo.

i feel like the mark who killed his father shouldn’t have died to a fucking yo-yo, just my take 😂

@@DudePeefect69420 Fr, and even if Nolan was still way weaker in that dimension, Mark's still a viltrumite and is legit called Invincible. It felt weird and weak how the different Marks died in this arc imo

@@khalduras784 Oh yes i agree for sure. I just think it didnt feel super justified and satesfying with how the different versions of Mark died. It didnt really feel possible or made sense, felt a bit like it was for the plot

@@TheoF1ye i hope they change the story in a way that atleast 16 alternative marks stay alive

Diarrhea

the times that he says "Mohawk Mark" would kill you with apple seed poison

Sort of but not really. The Invincible War was one of those instances where they tried including other Image characters to hint at a greater Image universe but then none of those characters or their storylines ever showed back up and Invincible never showed back up in other Image comic stories either (not to mention the Invincible timeline ends up drastically diverting from the Earths of Spawn, Witchblade, etc.) It's best to treat those appearances as cameos rather than an actual shared universe.

​@@kilerog easy answer: same "multiverse". Just like the versions of earth in marvel or dc

The share the same multiverse not universe, since they only appear in those instances and they are no longer seen afterwards

@@kilerog gooootttt it. Okay so same multiverse, not universe. Noted. Preciate ya buddy.

The fact that Jackie Estacado got name dropped and I just recently streamed The Darkness on my console made me feel things my girl cant

Theyre all mark, not supergeniuses.

@@Ghaztoir You don't need to be a supergenius to destroy a planet with brute force.

Reasons for weaker than average invincible: 1. Getting carried by Omni-man or relying on their viltrumite royal heritage-thus having their minions do the fighting. (Remember the race is bound to the bloodline of Argal on cognitive/spiritual level, they don’t care about strength) 2. Due to them going for the kill rather than holding back, they aren’t stressing their physical bodies. Prime gets as strong as he does eventually due to holding back and going for non-lethal options. (Taking the long and hard road) 3. Due to his heritage, he’s more arrogant and thus more prone to underestimating humans creativity and adaptability. Similarly to Conquest and how he always loses due to him being a spectator in his own fights, which was a weakness that got him killed.

@@The_preserver_x16 The whole point to taking over a planet is to do it without the Empire, 1 Viltrumite and their offspring that that they created through mating with the locals. Nobody knew about their royal heritage until much later in the time line so you can't use that excuse. Prime does NOT get stronger from holding back. WTF does that even mean? Like I said, he had no idea that he was royalty, it wouldn't have any effect on his actions. On those worlds he's Conquests commander because they were still allies, they never fought Conquest. Try harder.

@@The_preserver_x16 Also "Always loses to Conquest"? He fought him twice, real to the death fights and beat him the second time. He lost the first time mainly because he was trying to reason with Conquest who was in a berserker battle mode and Oliver was involved in the fight causing Mark to divide his attention, Mark wasn't fighting to kill Conquest, when he did, he killed him, end of story.

I mean I assume he meant ADULT mark after he gets the super spoilery upgrades and shit, not teenage Mark who gets manhandled by his dad still. But maybes thats just my common sense speaking idk.

@@gummybootssuperman solos max mark

Saitama would mess them both up 😂

​@@gummyboots i dont want this to turn into a debate... but if we take Prime Mark into consideration... then wouldnt we also take Prime Superman too? There is even a good video that measures Invincible Viltrumites to Frieza saga Characters (If i remember correctly Gohan with Mark) If i were to put my 2 cents into the debate with these super beings it would go something like: Milkman Super-Man or Super-Man 1 Million for high ball x1M+ >>> Old Super-man for mid ball > Prime Super-Man for low-ball ≥ Xeno Goku in Limit Breaker or Super Goku in either Mastered Ultra Instinct or True Ultra Instinct For high Ball >>> End of Buu Saga Goku in SSj3 for mid ball >>> Ssj 1 Grade 4 Goku End of Cell Saga for low ball ≈ Post-End of Story Mark for high ball >>> End of Story Mark for mid ball > Post Omni-man fight Mark > Homelander (Cuz fuck that Guy) But yea... if speaking on terms of power.. Mark may or may be able to go toe-to-toe with Goku at the end of the Cell Saga at the end of his story. Gohan in SSj 2 would break his fists on Contact, same with Cell. And there is no way he is even landing a punch on Super-Man. But he could be able to manhandle Homelander just like his dad did to him. I would say Homelander is slightly weaker than the Immortal... And we saw what happened to poor Aberham. But if i were to realistically speak on the topic... Goku, Super-Man and Invincible would at the end of the day be best of Buds, they have similar morals and would at most lightly spar and say that all of they each are pretty strong. And maybe have an afterlunch or something... Though Mark would definitely rip homelander apart as he would remind him a lot of Cecil or Rudy...

If we’re being honest,spawn and Jackie estacado could solo the entire invincible universe if they went all out.

The power scaling is seriously all over the place

Me to

I really sincerely hope they make it at least 3 episodes. Beat case scenario each day of the war will be a whole episode, a guy can dream.

​@@its_vintage2601 we can only dream... hope a few years from now someone will be like "hey, it actually happened!" Or "it didnt happen like this but was still insanely good 🔥"

@@UnderratedVoice24some of these Marks killed Omni Man. Some of them fought Thragg. At least one is the Viltrumite Emperor. None of them are inexperienced lmfao

The comic book had more heroes than what the show portrays and much of them ends up distracting the invincibles even if they arent able to straight up beat them. The ones who survived by the end of it (before portalled away) are the ones who were truly powerful amongst the invincibles and the heroes only managed to just survived long enough to be hidden away

Their are a lot of heroes in the comics capable of taking on a viltrumite. There is a lot more to fighting than strength.

Alternate viltrumites and the evil marks are considerably weaker because the multiverse powerscaling isn't consistent. The alternate marks are barely as strong as season 2 mark, who is holding back the entire time . . . at a younger age than most of the other marks.

Didn't Spawn live in the same universe as invincible? He would destroy most viltrumites.

I know, right? Must have caught him in broad fucking daylight.

@@trustmeits610pm2Jackie estacado, witchblade, spawn, Pitt, savage dragon, and tech jacket all killed alternate invincibles.

@@trustmeits610pm2 ok well that would make sense of how Invincible would kill him but in night no freaking way he would win

due to jackie being the current host in all media. I doubt he legit killed him, maybe a big fight, but the Darkness wouldnt allow a L like that. neither would I thats a big fight right there

when you say 1 and 2 i think you played the games lol. they were fun, but it's a whole comic series from the early 90's plus its getting a reboot next year.

Crazy

​@@Narrowsourcerealalmost happened to kuwabara

They don't have rights to him, so it's not likely. The Invincible War was a weird time when they were sort of trying to setup a greater comics universe but that never really went anywhere and the Invincible setting was solidified firmly as its own thing.

Beat!

There more than 1 spawn

Not mainline continuity Spawn. The version in Invincible is far weaker

Spawn is more of a title.

@@aibadenshinah it was an alternate al Simmons. Either way spawn low diffed alternate mark

@@Chiefteeth1no Spawn GOT diffed apparently. Mark didn’t die there. Granted tho that was his second time fighting a spawn. It’s Not to say he’s suddenly weak cause he lost to mark now tho

And then gets slash in the neck by robot.

Yeah I found him annoying too

Cry

@@zartexkrontaculys1097 tell me about it

In a video abt multiple versions of the same characters? YOU DONT SAY🤯🤯🤯

@@wilkokeepitonehundee5801 That's not the gotcha you think it is.

They cant even use characters like Brit,Tech Jacket,and Wolfman who all were reoccurring characters in the Invincible comics.

​@@Burning-TwilightWolf man maybe

@@jackislegitterrified3689 I doubt it. Something tells me like Brit and Tech Jacket, Amazon doesn't have the rights for him. Which honestly, while I love Wolfman he ultimately spent the majority of his time operating solo, and only occasionally popped up in other books. It's Brit who I feel like is the biggest loss, as he gradually became a more and more important character, hell he eventually was in charge of the expanded version of the Guardians of the Globe. It's just gonna be so weird not having him around in the show. And I dread to think who they will replace him with (probably gonna be Immortal if I had to guess.)

@@Burning-Twilight There's a few solutions for this. 1:Fight for the rights to use him(or just pay) 2:Make a legally distinct ripp off

@@jackislegitterrified3689 Knowing Amazon they will probably take the later. They already did this with the whole Seance Dog instead of Science Dog.

Welp that didn’t happen

It’s too early, I’m guessing angstrom comes back around the end of season 3 and invincible war will be season 4

@@zainahsan8757 yeah its going to be way too early to bring them in the Season 2 finale

@@zainahsan8757na invincible war is next season along with Cecil betrayal also conquest showing up or that fight will be the season 3 finale voice actors have been confirmed for season 3 season 4-5 might be vultrimite war

yeah I'm still wondering why Angstrom tried to kill our Mark instead of these evil Marks

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To be fair it's likely that the Spawn from his universe is weaker than the one in the main timeline

life never developed in that universe no water,no animals,no life no matter where they go its only desert

@@schwifty6401i dont buy that shit. Also how the fuck did these little drone balls push super humans into the portal. Nolan and mark literally withstood a train going like 60mph without moving a muscle

@@anobody8749bro said he don’t buy ts when it literally is just a deserted dimension with no life ☠️

@@anobody8749 its for plot reasons and tbf superhero comics were never consistent with the power scaling you had b tier heros killing invincibles in this exact issue

​​@@schwifty6401real like how can mark kill omni man but get killed by a yoyo😂

I think they could have.

So why they didn’t is because they were hoping angstrom would come back and his portals only work as like a doorway not any where

@@JoshTB007 Either they really thought he was gonna come back or they thought it would be suicide to just go on space randomly withouth knowing if they could find a breathable planet

This dimension had no life at all,no Water,Animals,grass,not anything,just desert

@@apenasosky2521 not even planets in the known universe? Did they ever said that?

The comics for it get pretty weird I will admit.

... LMAO good question; but mark isnt that wise; and the planet is the middle of nowhere? universe is infinite right? lol I dunno very good point tho

Correction they can survive at best 2 weeks without Oxygen. As fast as they travel theyd be lucky to get far in such a short amount of time.

he looks like deadpool

Jackie would slaughter Mark.

@@thomasraines1396 Agreed. Otherworldly strength doesn't overcome something that is literally not of this world.

@@gtrzmbe9390 exactly. If the Darkness can hurt Superman it would easily trounce someone way below him.

That’s just Ocram / Marco from SVTFOE

Bizarro Mark aka Kram Nosyarg

Oh that's interesting he would be like bizzaro

@@bluebucket703 Yeah it would be cool. They can make their own Bizarro by making one of the invincibles into a Reanimen or Rudy can have the Twins experiment with one of the Marks DNA and create a bizarro clone