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My first World Series was 2005. I was in a $1500 event and moved into Annie’s table. She busted, and Negreanu ended up filling her old seat. Once he found out it was her old seat, he made a grossed-out gasp and pulled sanitary wipes out of his backpack and wiped down the rail and chair😂. It was a weird and memorable moment for a first timer with the pros lol.

Calling Howard a legit businessman is like calling Colonel Sanders a war veteran

Daniel is known for having a pretty impeccable ability to read people... And it seems he read her pretty well

Sooo...this public feud all started when DN commented about an unnamed female player's bad behavior. Then HOWARD outed Annie as the unnamed female, while claiming to be defending her? Nice move, Perfesser.

Annie Duke and Howard Lederer both proved to be despicable human beings after the early controversies surrounding online poker and their involvements in cheating, stealing and essentially making it untenable for anyone to play on the sites they endorsed. They unfortunately got Chris Ferguson caught up in the mess as well. Not that Chris deserves any less hostility from the poker community.

As someone who was defrauded out of thousands in the Full Tilt collapse, I come down hard on against the crook, Howard, and his crooked sister.

Hard to imagine she did not know about Howard's scam

First of all Annie and Howard are brother and sister and they ruined they're own reputations by stealing money off people Daniel seen it years before

No data to back this up, but I dealt for a living for over 15 years and played with some small success. Based on my experiences, I've come to believe the incidence of narcissism among professional poker players has to be tremendously higher than the population at large, and in my opinion, this feud is a perfect example of two toxic narcissists going at each other and thinking people care. Of the two, I definitely think Annie Duke is much worse. I have real-time experience with her, and in my opinion, she's just as crooked and entitled as Negreanu says she is. Daniel can be extremely hypocritical, though. When Daniel was so openly critical of Howard Lederer after the Full Tilt debacle, I agreed with every word he said, BUT in the months and years after, I noticed Daniel doesn't hold friends to anywhere near the same standard. He often defends them in equally shady circumstances; for example when Eric Lindgren flat-out stole a million bucks from Chris Ferguson. 15+ years later, Lindgren still hasn't paid it back, and Negreanu still insists it's Full Tilt's bookkeeping department's fault. Lindgren knew Ferguson agreed to loan him a million bucks, Full Tilt accidentally wired him the million bucks twice, and he never gave the extra million back. Never paid the other million back, either. During the poker boom I was always amazed that so many people were lining up to blow all these "poker pros", treating them like rockstars when so many of them are crooks, thieves and con artists.

Howard Lederer lecturing people on being decent ahahaha

Daniel was definitely ahead of the curve on this one.

There's something about Annie I don't trust. I don't know what it is, but it's always been a gut feeling.

Hard to imagine anyone wanting to buy Annie Duke's book.

Annie and Howard taking L’s as usual 😂

Funny that the “esteemed members” were ferguson and Lederer. Two of the most hated people in all of poker

That's classic that Howard wrote a scathing letter to Daniel and this is the guy that scammed people. Always easier to point out faults in others.

I played with her once at the Bellagio and she didn't act up or act out. She took one bad beat and later drew out on the same guy for all his chips without commentary. I've only played with Daniel once at a WSOP event and he was talkative, friendly and fun from start to finish.

this really should be titled 'Story of all the shitty poker behavior Annie Duke has displayed'...

You know Annie loses this battle when every female player out there is on Team Negreanu. Annie is as likable as Amy Schumer.

So Danial takes the high road and doesn’t name the female then Howard names her and blames Daniel for being petty. WTF?

I met and played with Annie one time when I was a 21, and she was a complete asshole to me and aggressive towards nearly everyone at the table. She genuinely came across as a horrible person to be around. I completely side with Daniel on this one.

Oh man these sure are some names from the past...Annie Puke and Howard Scamerer.

My favorite thing from this whole thing knowing very little about either of these people going in, is Annie writing an "open letter to Pokerstars" - *"...about treating people with respect, and the use of a word that is abusive and demeaning to ALL WOMEN."* (Basically trying to get him fired/punished because she didn't like that he called her a mean word, and she wanted to distract and deflect away from any other points Dan was making at that moment...) Trying to make sure he's punished for "treating a woman poker player badly" -When he didn't hold back his take, regardless of the fact she's a woman, because that's irrelevant to her character, and the way she acts and behaves... Annie LOVES to talk on behalf.of all women, and utilize being a women whenever its convenient for her... As long as it benefits her in some way. Whenever its convenient for her to mention her gender in order to separate herself from her male competitors, usually as a point of pride... When somebody points out the hypocrisy in Annie declaring herself "the best *female* poker player, when Annie herself wants to try and make the point "men/women only tournaments" really shoudnt exist, because THAT separates by gender, and it should just be "poker" - not *men/women' poker"- gender is irrelevant to poker... Apparently... But then... Why does it matter that Daniel called you a c*nt, and moreso, why would it be any more or less demeaning because youre a "women poker player"? So you can demean him, and she can even call him a c*nt if she wanted with this logic, but if HE says that to HER, according to her, it's essentially the equivalent of the "N" word when used towards any woman... And she's a woman don't forget... All the sudden she gets to MAGICALLY invoke the power of a made up army of "the vast majority" of the 4+/- billion other women in the world, to defend eachothers honour or some shit... "Abusive and demeaning to all women" lmfao... Im pretty sure he was talking DIRECTLY TO YOU, and NOBODY else. Didn't call *any* other woman that word in this case... Once again, when its convenient to bring up her gender to separate herself, and especially as a way to put herself above others, there's NO hesitation or second thoughts... When others treat her like they would any other male competitor (which she claims she wants...) Especially treating her how they do, when she acts the way she does, LORD have mercy! You just did a FEMALE poker player wrong! Even tho its not wrong apparently if its a male...? It's worse? Ok Annie. SO clear to see through the type of person she is, and its exactly who Daniel said she was time after time after time...

I didn't know Chris Moneymaker was an "old school" player.

"King and Queen of Poker Hall of Shame". Couldn't have said it better. Their careers have been littered with scandal for how long, at least two decades? I used to admire them both as great players, but they just epitomize the seedy side of the poker world.

Daniel totally won that war and paints a great poker Hall of Shame visual with Howard and Annie.

All these dramatic stories were perfect to cover up the fact that all these offshore poker websites are complete scams.

Anna Duke made most of her poker money from the mid 80s to late 90s , she’s just mad the game has pass her up.

I worked at the Mirage poker room in 1984 to 1987. I never met Daniel but I did see Annie and Howard and she was not a very nice person at all Howard was decent but didn’t really see much of him but she was not very nice at all. !!

5:58 you said Tony revealed his two aces, which changes the entire subject there. Tony did not reveal his hand, he mucked them. Thats why what she did was wrong. You made it seem like she grabbed her own mucked cards. I had to rewind the video a few times to figure out the problem by reading the post and ignoring your talk.

i just think of joan rivers basically calling her hitler on the apprentice lol.

In my opinion, neither Annie Duke nor her brother Howard Lederer should be allowed to enter any poker room. When you read about Epic Poker and Full Tilt, it's obvious their morals are in the toilet. It's no coincidence they're brother and sister. Negreanu is right.

That Full Theft logo grinds on Howards soul for infinity.

Duke is a perfect example of a big fish in a small pond getting eaten alive by a new wave of young, smart players. Daniel is a perfect example of adapting to a new, tougher game and finding success.

Her name is forever tainted with her cheat brother... Negreanu's name is forever a legend and respectful great for the beautiful/terrible game of Poker ❤😂

Very nice content. Wish there were more like this on KZfaq.

There is no way I'm letting anyone look at my cards at a poker table for any reason, unless I'm required to do so.

Good video I was expecting it to end with her involvement with full tilt though.

Annie Duke has a history of being a bully and @sshole, especially towards the recreational and newer players, she has that 'entitled' and 'i am above you' way about her. So I have no problem with Daniel on this situation, I mean it is obvious she hates being put in her place, and this highlights that fact of she thinks she above everyone else.

I’d recommend that you point out much earlier than the very end that Howard Lederer and Annie Duke are brother and sister since it’s kind of important context, especially for the younger crowd who may not know that.

Imagine you have 2 kids: 1 is Howard and 2nd one is Annie. Good God what have I done?

Great video my man

For Daniel to dislike someone they've got to be pretty debased. He seems to get along with everyone, and is generally a pretty pleasant person.

In the third of Daniel's list of examples of Annie's bad behavior (5:41), the narration explains that Tony "revealed his two Aces" and that "Annie grabbed the folded cards, glanced at them". This is not accurate to the text explanation of the story. In the text, the story is that Dan folded, Tony DID NOT show his Aces. He mucked his hole cards while telling Dan that it was Aces. Annie grabbed the mucked winning hole cards (the Aces) and checked whether Tony was telling the truth about it being Aces.

Scary that nearly 20 years ago i got extremely drunk with Jesus and Howard in London,i was on my way to Vegas to play poker and ran into them at a Casino in London and it was like the highlight of my life at that point(they were poker royalty at that point especially Ferguson),i still have the photos on Facebook,scary how time flies and also how little you know about people.

In 2007, I was having a drink with friends at a bar and watching poker on tv. I had admiration for Annie at that time. A guy sitting by us told a story of a night drinking in Vegas and going home with her. I believed it.

The rivalry between one world class poker play...and her.

I love how in the early 2000’s all these filthy thieves were portrayed as all knowing poker superheroes when in fact they’re frauds .

Who would flirt with her? She looks like Grimace from McDonald's

Duke is Lederer's sister . Not surprisingly she has her own cheating scandal . Also not surprising Daniel bumped shoulders with her.

Glad to see that many here know the truth about Howard and Annie. I don't always agree with Daniel but he's sure right about Annie.

Wow a smart woman villainizes an even smarter man, cheats people out of money, and still thinks she’s a victim. Sadly, I’m not surprised. 💁‍♀️☕️

Daniel dripping that “Bi**h Please” line…💀 4:34

Grabbing someone's mucked wholecards?? OH HELL NAH

I have always not liked Annie, just her personality and attitude from the little I've seen. This video just shows I was right about her.

The fact that most people only know who Dnegs is should tell you who won this "rivalry"

I normally start with a top water bait or spinner. If the fish are not active I work the deep weed edge with a wacky worm.

5:50 - he didn't 'reveal' his cards, he said what they were. If he had revealed them, there would have been no point in retrieving them from the muck.

Everybody hated Anny Duke in fact.

The Lederer "poker family" have proven to be bungholes up and down the list. Anyone from the era will never forget the black friday scandal, and finding out that they had their fingers in cash drawer, taking from the players. Howard, Annie, and others including Chris Ferguson had their careers destroyed by their own bad acts. I am with Daniel on this one. Both Howard and Annie are pieces of work, the poker world is much better off without both of them. Too bad so many people had to lose money with them.

You forgot to mention the important fact that Howard Lederer is Annie Duke's brother.

Don’t like either one of them🙂

I had no idea they had beef!

At the very end of the video you mentioned Daniel's comment about Annie and Howard and shame, but failed to mention why Howard was included for that. He was involved in the Full Tilt Poker scandal. See, that was easy to explain.

The interesting thing about those guys like Annie Duke and Lederer is that they used to be considered great when in reality they used to be nits, pure nits.

I worked the 2006 WSOP, and I just got done dealing a event I went in the back hallway to goto lunch and In a random corner in the dark I saw Shannon Elizabeth’s husband making out with Anne. As I walked by they continued with their high school make out session and all I could think was “how you gonna do that to the American Pie girl. There needs to be more interviews with poker dealers on the how poker pros really are. That’s a video.

I agree with Annie on the girls only poker situation (there’s no advantage men have over women in intelligence, there doesn’t need to be a separate event) but side with Daniel on everything else because she does seem insufferable

Asking a lederer about fair play and proper business activities is hilarious.

I GET MORE EXITED OF POKER BOUNTYS NEW EPISODES THEN ANY SHOW ON NETFLIX!!

“Cup boy.” Never heard that one before.

I remember Dsniel complaining about he putting he bare feet upon the cloth chairs because they were stinky sweaty feet on the chairs. I feel for him.

0:45 THC and Acid gummies emails.😂

You didn't even touch on the Full Tilt scandal that Howard was involved in.

Well after watching that, I'm beginning to think these people might not like each other.

Where are they now?

I don’t know any of these people personally obviously, but Danielle always seems to be giving back to the community. He gives a ton of free advice online. Everybody wants to be liked to some extent and if you’re in the public eye it benefits you to leverage that I can’t blame somebody for wanting to be more popular or build their brand in their name I can blame somebody for cheating and engaging in unfair practices which it sounds like Ani did. At the end of the day if I could pick one to be my friend, it would definitely be Daniel. he seems like a genuine person and I think he cares about this sport

Can't say I like either one of them, all of them are full of inflated egos except Doyle Brunson and Eli Elezra. Both gave and commanded respect.

Nice!!

Might be relevant to state at the beginning that Howard is Annie's brother

Howard Lederer, the Full Tilt mastermind, is turning out to be a real character isn't he.

8:37 "I have few secrets if anyway... I been broke. Blew some... (line ends)"

In my opinion Howards actions are why black Friday ruined online Poker forever.

Poker is a mental game. Why should there be a gender specific category ?

I find funny how you paint Daniel as the bad guy, even though Annie is the one doing all the shady actions. Nice work Simp

Annie and Howard take the L

Email beef is so boring💀

Forgot Annie Duke existed 🤣

Think we all know who's side we are on...

I'll never look at Puke the same way nasty nasty! We love you Daniel!!!🍁

Lederers are the least likable individuals in poker. Both absolute garbage

Waittt number three...she turned over SOMEONE ELSE'S CARDS after the hand was through?! That should totally be some sort of penalty to say the least right??

I was going to take Daniels side until I remembered the time his pocket 33 beat me heads up in a tournament against my QJhh on a 10109hh. In all seriousness Annie is bad but Howard is the scum of the earth

Just want to thank Annie for her excellent service at the Waffle House last weekend. Great waitress!

annie is delusional i think she actually thinks shes hot 🤣

Daniel's fueds are ALWAYS online... haha, his fued with Doug Polk, both talking like big dogs online and when they met heads up they looked like a couple dorks giggling.

And calling Duke famous is a real fkn stretch

No mention of her boyfriend winning one of the biggest tornys she was in chat. Her bf probably had access to that cheating program. Daniel knew what was up with ub back then. I'm not sure what he said but He helped me quit ub for good. Before the cheating was exposed. I knew something was going on. I didn't know of all these accusations of cheating against annie but i believe it.

The essence of this video could've been covered in 5 minutes or less.

I remember this well 😂At one tournament, Annie had been to the toilets in bare feet, and Daniel did not like that at all, which I of course fully understand. I like them both for various reasons. Good episode.