Stove might be inefficient compared to the new ones but that's fairly true of anything these days. It's certainly more efficient than an open fireplace. Plus, welll seasoned firewood is better for the environment than less seasoned firewood. Multiple energy systems is the way to go, using the one that costs the least at the time.

@@billb945 at my age I'm not replacing it....lol

Question for you, I have a coal stove (franco belge) that uses pea coal. I can get a good deal on a ton of nut coal. Is there any risk or benefits if I use the nut coal instead of pea?

@@jreg0028 I'm not really familiar with that brand but I'd say it depends on the size of the grates. If they are super small you may have problems shaking the ash down....I'd experiment with a couple of bags and see how it goes before you buy tonnage of coal

In Belgium, the cheapest anthracite coal (100%) I can buy will cost me about €900/ton ($ 960) and that is for the small stuff (12/22). You'd be lucky to find some decent sized anthracite (20/30), even if you could afford it. Of course, this is without delivery. You have to go and get it yourself in 25 kg bags. Maybe someone will deliver it, but you better grab deep into your wallet for that. I use mostly compressed wood briquets, because they're still somewhat affordable, and for the really cold days I use my stockpile of coal. Luckily, I bought it when it was affordable and should have enough for 3 or 4 winters...

I'm jealous......I only get about 6 hrs

Thanks Rich

Here in America only one manufacturer of a rocket stove has been approved so far for indoor use. I know mass stoves have been used in many countries for years especially in Adobe homes. But with America's strict building codes and strict EPA and insurance regulations I doubt they will ever be accepted here

Wow that's awesome

Yikes! $380 a ton?...was that last year price? I'm almost afraid to price coal this year...what area are you in?

@@plnthrd new england, yes there is a war on fossil fuels unfortunately, my house is electric heat, still much cheaper than paying for electricity at this point in time

@@ethanbailey3799 wow....I guess the price is based on transportation from PA or WV....yea last year electric was fairly cheap so I took advantage of my solar power and Mr Cool heat pumps to supplement my heat... thankfully I can use multiple sources

@@ethanbailey3799 I think redundancy is the key to surviving this war on fossil fuels until more level headed people get into office

Great point!

1 bag of pellets will get 18 plus hours of consistent heat depending on model.

Anywhere from 4 to 6 tons a year depending on how cold it is but you have to understand I like my house warm in the winter the living room is constantly 75 to 80°

It's not so much the heat from the coal but the chemical makeup of the smoke, it drys and crystalizes the creosote.. I tend a pressurized magnum coal boiler that my step-dad built and since we can't get coal this year it's really gummed up. Still works fine with wood but a nice coal burn would sure clean it up

yea I went through 4 cords and 1/12 tons of coal last winter. Thankfully I also have solar and pay nothing for electric all year long so I added two Mr Cool Units and they work great for a/c and heat so i can extend my time before lighting off the stove in the fall and spring

Wow my ash content is about 50-75% of original size

@@plnthrd I DO,4 ,,50LB BAGS TO 1 BAG ASH..I USE KIMMEL'S COAL.I AM HAVING LOTS TROUBLE GETTING COAL HERE IN MAINE.STAY WELL

I don't know but I get anthracite coal from Pennsylvania and OMG $700 for little over a ton....is that this year's price?

@@plnthrd ABASHAWN HARDWARE IS ASKING 700$@2300LB,NO DELIVERY..I BEEN PAYING 470$ @2500LB,DELIVERED. ITS KIMMEL'S COAL FROM PA.. HANG IN THERE..TY

liners meaning firebrick?

that white dust on the glass from the coal burn is easily wiped off with a paper towel and water, no biggie! Watch my video on cleaning the door glass when burning wood

Burn ordered? You have to start a coal fire with wood.... I'm confused

funny you say that, I burn almost all house trash (paper) and even plastics aka petroleum in my stove to either light the stove or for heat, the ultimate recycling

yes i need to address that also, thanks for the reminder!

not sure what the terms that you are using mean..are you referring to auger feed vs manual feed?.

@@plnthrd stoves other than Hartman Draft dial in back that let’s the infeed air in to fuel the stove works off a spring like the old caborators do in cars. Adjust the air intake as they heat up. The lower the heat the more they open up. The hotter it gets it closes up depending where you have the dial set

@@rickyamsbaugh7397 gottcha, I'm not familiar with them the Harman only has one air bleed

did you get to see the final video ricky?

William you really need a dedicated coal stove because you need shaker grates to control ash....you can burn wood in a coal stove but you really need the grates to burn coal. Not sure I'd want to haul coal around in a caravan either

Wonderful! Thank you for replying. Have a wonderful evening, thank you! 🙏🏻

Yea it's pretty much a Northeast kinda fuel.....MD PA Northern Appalachia a little bit of Ohio...the farther you go outside of there, the transportation costs kill ya

I believe they have coal sales in Kentucky. I have a big old 35 year old Craftstove woodstove with a fan. I have it going now and last night too. It's pretty heavy duty but probably not something I'd want to shovel coal into. If I had a protective grid or pan I'd put a few handfuls in there for sure. We get down into the thirties and forties here and sometimes colder. I can't believe Tractor Supply doesn't have a few bags in the state. @@plnthrd

Yea coal is so high here that I'm burning wood during the day and coal overnight

Here's a really cool chart, just plug in the costs for different fuels in your area to find out the best deal per btu coalpail.com/fuel-comparison-calculator-home-heating

@@plnthrdBituminous coal equal to anthracite coal is available for $90 per ton at the mine is Sparta, Illinois in bulk, shipping from that point is extra.

@@theraptureisnearbelieveinj448Thanks for the kind comment. I'd still do a wood/coal combo stove, I'm NOT in love with the Harman Mark III however, it has a lot of poorly designed flaws. If you go with a split use stove I doubt it could have a catalytic combustor however

You can burn wood in all coal stoves, but you can't burn coal in all wood stoves. It's not so much a heat rating as it is a mechanical issue. Coal needs a grate to burn on where air can circulate up through the bed of coals, typically a wood stove doesn't have a grate at the bottom

@@plnthrd thank you for the info!

My stove is a replica made in Thailand. It has a grate but my concern is the cast iron thickness. Will my stove handle coal? It burns wood no problem. Help

@@markweber5296 I think the bigger question would be is.....if you burn out a grate can you get a replacement?

Mark III can run both fuels

Man are YOU lucky!! Best of luck this winter....how much is coal?

@@plnthrd my area last I checked coal is anywhere from $175 to $250 a ton and a cord of wood is about the same.

@@lesackerman9271 wow those prices are pretty good in Maryland a cord of oak is 300 and a ton of coal is 405

@@plnthrd that's about the price if you buy coal bagged around my area but we have major railroad infrastructure in my area of new York state that ships it in on the regular from the mines and I'm right next to a secondary rail that our fertilizer packing plant uses to park their fertilizer cars and if I wanted to I could get a permit from CSX rail and I could even order coal by the car load

@@lesackerman9271 yea I get it, whatever source you pick, transportation seems to be the driving factor in the pricing

I'd lean towards saying no because you need a shaker grate and a way to get air underneath the bed of coal

No. You can burn wood in coal stove but not other way around.. Coal burns hotter

huh?

my friend has to replace his double wall chimney every so often because the , i guess acid from the coal eats it. after the season he cleans it and slobbers water and baking soda in it to counter the acid.

@@davevann2925 actually the fly ash from anthracite coal isn't acidic it's alkaline..... bituminous coal is primarily acidic but each can be corrosive.... I've never had a problem with mine...now at the end of this year I will have my chimney cleaned for the first time in 20 years because I have been burning wood during the day

Wow that's expensive!.... I picked up some of those compressed wood bricks also just try them out they were $7 for 12 of them.... Do you have any idea where the anthracite comes from that you're burning in your country?

have you tried Indonesian coconut briquets?

@@julesherman6802 never heard of them

Wood stoves will always make more smoke than a coal stove, too many variables, type of wood moisture content etc. At my age harvesting wood is now a chore that I don't enjoy

@@plnthrd I could see the age factor, it is a lot of work, but my point about minimal smoke stands

@@denverbasshead as does mine, minimal might be one thing but coal makes no smoke whatsoever, so my initial statement stands " wood always makes more smoke than coal"

@richcasino9486 yup.....1year plus a little for maple and cherry...2years for oak

well the coal does burn hotter over a longer time. but the cast iron holds up very well

Planning on lining mine with 1/2" ceramic blanket

Using anthracite exceeds temperature that often cause's cast iron to crack. Look it up. It's over 1000 degrees Fahrenheit.

@@colbolt54 I never let it get that hot 600 is the hottest I've ever burned it.

@@colbolt54 wood also burns well over 1000 degrees

I'll start out North Central Maryland coal $407 a ton, oak firewood $300 a cord, fuel oil (in the early fall) was $3.90 a gallon

I'm in the U.K. prices here have gone through the roof compared to last year 2021. Anthracite coal £600 per ton. Columbian house coal for open fires £750 per ton!!!! Hardwood logs £150 per cubic metre (3.6 cubic metre in a cord? Approx £500 a cord?) Heating oil approx £1 per litre........and don't start me on gas and electric......

Northern NJ at the PA state line, coal up to $415 some places a ton, we don’t use wood anymore, but hardwood pellets are around $320/ ton

Missouri - Ozarks - $450 a ton for anthracite - $250-$300 a chord hardwood.

@@plnthrd Central New Hampshire here and in May 2021 Green Cord wood was $200 per cord. $225 @ cord for green for the last 5 years Cut Split and Delivered. We burn 5 cords like clockwork. We won't start the wood furnace until November 1st and shut it down in sometime in March. I added pellet stove into the mix just to check it out since some of the kids are moving out and I never did like the stacking and re-stacking and all the cord wood games that I have been playing since I was a kid. I like the laziness it provides from not having to stack in the sun, de-stack to shoot some down the bulkhead and re-stacking in the basement but the heat output on the pellets is not quite there come January for someone who lives in a somewhat large house built nearly 150 years ago. October 2022 I ordered 4 pallets of VT softwood pellets @ $355/Ton. 1 pallet stove coal @ $525/Ton from these guys way at Harris Energy in Northern NH. $360 delivery charge but they do park these pallets wherever you want them and they seemed to be the only guys around doing Pellets and Coal. Prices today per their website Feb 2023 same VT softwood pellets @$395/Ton and the stove coal is $625/Ton still better for me then their cost on Heating Oil is #2 Heating Oil is $4.59 per Gallon and K1 Kerosene is $6.09 per Gallon. Just getting into burning the coal I grabbed a bunch of bags a few years back . Nice and steady just add 10 roughly 10 pounds 3 or 4 times a day and hit the shaker grate to keep the ashes from blocking the air flow and remembering not to stir the hot coals up like you would want to do in a wood fire seems to work best for me. If you overload it refueling or stir up the coals at all they tend to snuff itself out pretty quick in my experience.

It can be a problem if you don't have a large property it is a known carcinogen

@@plnthrd We dump our ash in the gravel driveway and rake it out but I have a large property and no neighbors.

@@kmb957you are very lucky!

Where do you buy this? Does it go in a wood stove or coal stove?

Now there you go!

my local coal supplier has told me that the reason my price has gone up so much is that the coal mines are shipping over to Europe where they can get up to $1000 a ton!

@@plnthrd Yeah basically that's the street price here , I will stay with Gas 👍😅 I can regulate it much better

@@dimmacommunication that's insane!

@@dimmacommunication At least, once you've bought the coal, you know exactly what you've paid for it. With gaz... prices fluctuate so much that nobody really knows what the exact bill will be at the end of the year.

Lol... really?

Yeah, it looks like a printed image of a fire 😄

Lol...I don't know anyone that burns wood that lets it sit for 10yrs

It's only been declared by the EPA carbon neutral since 2018, just another move by the left to bolster the wood pellet businesses. How can it be carbon neutral when all you end up with after the burn is carbon? But it sure makes carbon Monoxide!

@@plnthrd when you put more CO2 in the atmosphere, plants grow more. That’s why greenhouse operators use CO2 generators. It’s also why total biomass on the planet is at an all time high. Then the plants turn it all into oxygen and hydrocarbons. It’s called the carbon cycle. Net ZERO! Read up.

@@plnthrdThe wood ash left after the fire has gone out is full of carbon that, within our life time, was once carbon in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Burning wood is actually carbon negative. This is a fact regardless of what any organisation declares.

Well the wood itself might be free but it's not free to cut it up in your labor and all that