Streaking Grime RUINED my Miniatures.

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Lizard of Doom

Lizard of Doom

11 ай бұрын

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This was meant to be last weeks video until Streaking Grime DESTROYED it!
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@vectorshaman338
@vectorshaman338 11 ай бұрын
Also used grime for the 1st time recently and destroyed 2 minis for DnD. I had 2 layers of mat varnish. But learned a lot. 1) Maybe didn't let the streaking grime dry long enough. 2) Used too much spirit 3) Pressed too hard with the Q-Tips. 4) Maybe try w/ a paintbrush dipped in spirit and be more gentle with the removal 5) using a brush instead of Q-Tips Hope we can all learn from each other!! Cheers from Copenhagen!!
@jannloneke8366
@jannloneke8366 10 ай бұрын
The issue is with the varnish, it reacts with both enamel and oil based paints.
@lesteryupingkun4292
@lesteryupingkun4292 13 сағат бұрын
Happened to me too! I had to strip the model and then repaint it, add a layer of varnish, before putting the oil wash and removing with spirit
@2ClutchGamers
@2ClutchGamers 7 ай бұрын
Using streaking grime is another practice in color theory. Brown is good shadow for red, green, or other warm colors. Reductive techniques also take extreme patience and extra steps
@PigGibbon
@PigGibbon 11 ай бұрын
They look mint on that terrain. “Chef’s Kiss”. Don’t forget to hold the high ground in your game.
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
You underestimate my power.
@melsminiloft
@melsminiloft 11 ай бұрын
Yikes! It looked like he walked straight out of a Dagobah swamp. But I love the recovery haha and i definitely agree theres a place for every type of painting technique.
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
I know right! I was aiming for battle grime not swamp juice! I seem to specialise in ballsing it up and then recovering. 😂
@AmarisDentin
@AmarisDentin 11 ай бұрын
RE: 'Bad' dry brushing - Honestly - if a technique gets you the look *YOU'RE* happy with - it's good.
@thebloodymummer5502
@thebloodymummer5502 10 ай бұрын
I only use streaking grime on my Knights/titans and the occasional character. I find mixing paint thinner into the actual streaking grime and mixing water with my paint thinner actually makes it easier to remove the grime back to the original colours without taking off paint work. The first time I used it I had the same problem as yourself, but it just works for me now.
@OntarioGuy430
@OntarioGuy430 5 ай бұрын
I love how this popped up just after I ordered streaking grime. It is kind of scary though.
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 5 ай бұрын
The best hypothesis on what happened here is that the varnish was dry to the touch but not cured when I put the streaking grime on. So that’s something to avoid 😂
@wogan8363
@wogan8363 11 ай бұрын
I've used a very similar method for a lot of my bases (replacing Sylvaneth Bark with Bugman's Glow) but I never knew Ardcoat helped the cracking! You've enriched my life once again, along with the addition of Rhinox Hide to my paint collection. Thank you sir.
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
Also making sure it’s on thick and applying a little bit of heat with a hairdryer will help the cracking 🙂
@legodovakin
@legodovakin 9 ай бұрын
Pure heresy to paint Cody blue
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 9 ай бұрын
He’s Sergeant Boomer now 😂
@sambettridge3674
@sambettridge3674 Ай бұрын
i used streaking grime on one of my chaos knights that i had used leadblecher spray primer on and the red paint on the armour like chipped and got almost "rusted" and the metal underneath came through perfectly. no idea how i did it but godly affect
@pv_hobbying
@pv_hobbying 11 ай бұрын
I find it needs to be thinned down prior to going on, this then makes it easier to remove. Additionally, it's partly down to the way it is removed, if you use too much force through the cotton buds, they will cause friction and rub the paint off.
@prepcooksurvive5807
@prepcooksurvive5807 11 ай бұрын
Using the grime and force just how you treat my mum 😮
@GeorgieQuidd
@GeorgieQuidd 11 ай бұрын
I use the Ammo streaking grime as it works the best. Ive food all AK tends to stain if you leave it on for too long. But Ammo doest seem to do that. I know you've used AK all the time but maybe try Ammo next as the formula is better. But you have to gloss prime before as it needs white spirit to remove and that breaks down the acrylic paint and strips the mini as tried it with out and yeah ruined a days mini painting haha
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
I haven't heard of the Ammo one, I'll definitely look in to that, thank you :)
@airwick01570
@airwick01570 10 ай бұрын
Looking good Max, really digging the terrain and the minis just go perfect in their environment. How would the weathering pigment look on the tufts if done after they were set?
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 10 ай бұрын
Thank you mate 🙂 Because the powder is so richly coloured being pure pigment it’d make the tufts that colour too, you can just use a bit of a smaller brush and go around them though if you’re doing it the other way round.
@kscott2655
@kscott2655 11 ай бұрын
Also, you should really let your varnish fully dry and cure before moving on to the next step.
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
I was pretty sure it was but maybe not, I even used a hair dryer on it to make sure it was done.
@kscott2655
@kscott2655 11 ай бұрын
@LizardofDoom - Paint and varnish drying time and curing time is not the same. It may have been dry, but varnish (and paint or primer) can take 24 hours to fully cure to its top hardness and durability. I try to prime the day before I want to paint something for this reason.
@kscott2655
@kscott2655 11 ай бұрын
Plus it still looked like that 'ardcoat was still dying on some of the bases when you began adding the Martian Ironearth. But I know sometimes the magic of editing can leave false impressions of such things. Putting paint, varnish, and technical down too fast is probably why the brown cracked with the technical paint.
@Eschatonin6666
@Eschatonin6666 11 ай бұрын
What you expected: Steaking Grimer What you got: Streaking Muk
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
Damn thing evolved on me 😂
@Storehouse-805
@Storehouse-805 11 ай бұрын
I love your videos! I cant wait to see your channel explode!
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
Thank you mate, you’ve been with me for a while and I appreciate you!
@SpensPainting
@SpensPainting 10 ай бұрын
You could say I've used Streaking Grime a few times. I think what might have happened is that the varnish wasn't fully cured or the grime was left to cure for too long. Either way, great video and well done on the end result!
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 10 ай бұрын
I think the general consensus is the varnish wasn't fully cured just dry to the touch, and thank you :)
@SpensPainting
@SpensPainting 10 ай бұрын
@@LizardofDoom it’s a great learning point tbf! Enamels are brilliant but there’s some pitfalls with them that people can fall into if they’re not aware so videos like this are great for making people know what to look out for
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 10 ай бұрын
@@SpensPainting I think the channel speciality is ballsing things up then powering through 😂
@mikewicked.x
@mikewicked.x 10 ай бұрын
I had a similar issue using streaking grime on the Shatterpoint Terrain, and likewise never had that happen before either. I wonder if AMG use some sort of mould release similiar to cast resin?
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 10 ай бұрын
Interesting you could be on to something there
@jannloneke8366
@jannloneke8366 10 ай бұрын
The issue is quite simple - never use any varnish when working with enamel and oil based paints. Issue fixed.
@garethcourtney9472
@garethcourtney9472 10 ай бұрын
Nice save 🤙🏻 they look awesome was told on dukes discord to give it a watch as im about to start my first army. Ive watched all your videos and love them plenty of inspiration to get me going. Grimdark BA here I come keep it rocking bro, GAZ 🤙🏻
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 10 ай бұрын
Thank you mate, I really appreciate the support! Good luck with your Grimdark BA!
@Phoenikuz
@Phoenikuz 11 ай бұрын
Ooof, I've been there as well! I've found that using some satin or gloss varnish over the areas you don't want to take on the color of streaking grime - that helps a lot!
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
The 'ardcoat I used was a gloss varnish but it seemed to eat up the colour even more, I've used both of these products together before, from the same pots even, and never had this happen!
@Phoenikuz
@Phoenikuz 11 ай бұрын
@@LizardofDoom oh man - I have no idea how I missed that point in the video - sorry about that! Well in this case that's really strange for sure... maybe the 'ard coat wasn't hardened enough or something like that, so that they mixed together instead?
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
@@Phoenikuz no need to apologise 🙂aye could be a possibility that they mixed and that's what pulled all he paint off down to primer
@brianshobbyspace3569
@brianshobbyspace3569 11 ай бұрын
Nice video. I always paint the characters first too.
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
I can’t resist 😂
@PhthaloGreenskin
@PhthaloGreenskin 2 ай бұрын
You don't wash white with brown unless you want a brown model. You should wash white with a mid grey.
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 2 ай бұрын
Unless you want it to look like brown grime on the model from their environment not just shadows on the armour panels. But thanks know it all McGoo. 😂
@sushimandaddi
@sushimandaddi 10 ай бұрын
Streaking grime is just basically oil paint. Oil paint is much easier to use and cheaper! I would also recoomend makeup "moguls" to remove rather than qtips, they are small sponges rather than cotton!
@MrLems87
@MrLems87 10 ай бұрын
Maybe use a better varnish? How long did you wait before removing it? Also, it can be a bit tricky working with enamels like this and this isn’t the point of streaking grime - why not try a brown / black oil wash instead?
@pazuzu_666
@pazuzu_666 11 ай бұрын
Never used 'ardcoat before, but I have never had this issue when using AK, Vallejo, or Ammo's Lucky varnishes. Also, was the 'ardcoat fully cured? Hard to tell with it being a gloss, but if not fully cured, the grime could permeate the coating causing the staining and be why the spirits started to remove everything. When brushing on varnish a thicker coat is typically applied and therefore needing a longer cure time than if airbrushed. If only the surface was cured that was likely the cause.
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
This seems to be the general consensus that maybe the varnish wasn’t cured enough yet I think collectively everyone is probably right, it was dry to the touch so I pressed on, I will wait longer next time 🙂
@patrickruderisch718
@patrickruderisch718 6 ай бұрын
I love streaking grime, black, color, streaking grime, specials, super cool.❤
@Skamanduder
@Skamanduder 11 ай бұрын
Big fan of 'Background chodes'
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
I've heard that about you before 😉😂
@WizardAngst
@WizardAngst 11 ай бұрын
No, I am Max.
@UrikHaio
@UrikHaio 11 ай бұрын
Very identified!
@chrisday9297
@chrisday9297 11 ай бұрын
Job's a good un!
@Trinioutsider34
@Trinioutsider34 11 ай бұрын
This reminds me why I don’t wanna touch Streak and Grime. I just don’t trust the product.
@kristoff7049
@kristoff7049 10 ай бұрын
I love Shatterpoint! Currently my favourite mini game!
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 10 ай бұрын
I had a great time playing it the other day, a lot of fun with very few minis
@Kankill4u
@Kankill4u 11 ай бұрын
Funnily enough I have some Ak streaking grime but I'm scared to use it incsse I ruin the model
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
This has never happened before and I've got no idea why it happened, it does make me nervous to use it again.
@MIK136PARKS
@MIK136PARKS 11 ай бұрын
You did Commander Cody in 501st colours, he should have orange detailing from the 212th
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
I painted them all as 501st to make my force look more coherent (and because they're my favourite), He's painted as Sergeant Boomer from the 501st because they wear the same type of helmet with the sun visor.
@shangron5796
@shangron5796 11 ай бұрын
Good Job You.
@Treestump7271
@Treestump7271 11 ай бұрын
Yay 🎉
@bionicgeekgrrl
@bionicgeekgrrl 10 ай бұрын
With the sheet of paper, if you fold it first so there is a crease it will flow down and into the pot easier, just weight down the corners while using the powder. Also, with the streaking grime, they have apparently changed the recipe and their track dirt (or is it railway grime? ) works well.
@migueldelvalle3871
@migueldelvalle3871 11 ай бұрын
It worked
@prz3mq
@prz3mq 11 ай бұрын
where IG? :D
@jojan292
@jojan292 11 ай бұрын
dangerously close to an eons of battle title here fella... we don't want to end up with an unwashed ass now... do we? P.S. THE CLANKERS ARE COMING
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 11 ай бұрын
oh no, my neck beard is growing !!!
@Vecnas1
@Vecnas1 26 күн бұрын
lol you don't know how to use it, varnish them before putting the grime
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 25 күн бұрын
I did
@kscott2655
@kscott2655 11 ай бұрын
I don't like how prevalent Streaking Grime has become anyway. So many use it on everything and I'm tired of it. I'm sorry it happened to you on this project, but I'd be happy to see less of this product in general.
@willsuttie3683
@willsuttie3683 11 ай бұрын
It's just Agrax for wankers.
@bionicgeekgrrl
@bionicgeekgrrl 10 ай бұрын
There are a number of different options similar to use from ak and other brands.
@kscott2655
@kscott2655 10 ай бұрын
@bionicgeekgrrl - It's not the exact product that irritates me, it's the method. I don't like any of them.
@bionicgeekgrrl
@bionicgeekgrrl 10 ай бұрын
@@kscott2655 Ah, its just personal preference really. Everyone can do with their models as they like really. If you don't like it, just don't buy it :)
@darrenmcgovern7845
@darrenmcgovern7845 11 ай бұрын
Why people buy these kinds of products YOU CAN MAKE THEM YOURSELF with normal acrylic paint water and a small bit of washing up liquid or normal oil washes things you know how they will behave there's these kind of products for everything rust etc its a lazy way of painting
@Rob-fn1kp
@Rob-fn1kp 10 ай бұрын
amazing. but.... the pigments on the models..... its not sealed in right? won't it just come over.... over time?
@LizardofDoom
@LizardofDoom 10 ай бұрын
A small amount but the majority has been dusted off anyway leaving just the most secure bits left, I’ve found that giving it a blast with a hair dryer on a cool setting dislodges anything that would of come off over time
Do I NEED to varnish before using Streaking Grime?
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