Street Fighter Retrospective - Part 2 - Following Up a Legend
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Күн бұрынWelcome back World Warriors. After the massive success of Street Fighter 2, where could Capcom take this series? In a lot of unexpected directions, that's where.
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0:00 - Intro
4:39 - The Making of Street Fighter Alpha
17:13 - Street Fighter Alpha
25:42 - The Alpha Roster
34:08 - Secret Fights
42:46 - Character Endings
46:19 - Street Fighter Alpha 2
53:13 - Alpha 2's Roster
58:22 - Secret Fights and Character Engins
1:03:32 - Street Fighter Alpha 3 and the ISM system
1:07:30 - Alpha 3's Roster
1:13:38 - Bison and Individual Stories
1:22:38 - Home Ports of Alpha 3
1:37:55 - Street Fighter EX
1:41:35 - EX Gameplay
1:46:50 - EX's Roster
1:56:40 - EX2
2:03:10 - EX3
2:25:27 - Outro
@C.V317 11 ай бұрын
Itsuno: You hired me because I played fighting games, hurled insults at me, and left me such a wreck that I began to hate the word “sense” because you said I had none. Funamizu: I’m sorry, I don’t remember any of it. For you, the day I gave you that job was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday.
@Wolf10media 11 ай бұрын
😄
@coreywong6229 11 ай бұрын
Funamizu is M. Bison confirmed
@TheSuperSmashBros01 8 ай бұрын
I swear Funamizu must’ve had something against Itsuno to keep throwing insults at
@drew8235 6 ай бұрын
Just watched that movie last night. O.o
@raikoedgymoto 11 күн бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen The man who singlehandedly saved Devil May Cry was forged out of spite
@DarthEnderX 11 ай бұрын
"Adon is the Starscream of the Muay Thai world." is perfect.
@Steve.Matheus 10 ай бұрын
"SAGAT HAS FALLEN, I, ADON AM YOUR NEW LEADER"
@misterjersey5460 10 ай бұрын
@@Steve.Matheusliterally starscream
@megamarsonic 7 ай бұрын
Adon: “Call me the Emperor of Muay Thai… and don’t tell Sagat we had this conversation.”
@DarthEnderX 6 ай бұрын
"JAGUAR SLEEPOVER!"
@willthelemon5681 6 ай бұрын
@@Steve.MatheusThat's so perfect lmao
@lionscave5256 11 ай бұрын
"Even within the Street Fighter universe, you can't just go around beating up random people." Meanwhile in Street Fighter 6...
@Jamester445 11 ай бұрын
To be fair this is after Cody become mayor and signed into law that all Metro City citizens can just randomly start brawls with no consequences.
@lionscave5256 11 ай бұрын
@@Jamester445 True enough lol
@user-pj1ec5om5g 11 ай бұрын
Considering Metro city’s history that’s like calling Detroit the norm of the world lol
@furrybproductions 11 ай бұрын
@@user-pj1ec5om5gor Gary Indiana before that 🤣
@dnmstarsi 11 ай бұрын
@@Jamester445And somehow that spread across the world.
@yalborap 11 ай бұрын
Okay, but the idea of Sakura having a Raging Demon is hilarious. Not least because the animation has *none* of the Satsui no Hado shadow-float bullshit, so it *completely* looks like she just saw Akuma do it from afar, went "Oh wow, that is *super rad* " and copied the basic concept of 'charge inside their guard and go full ham' without picking up any of the actual intent of the technique. And there is something pure and beautiful about the idea of Sakura accidentally subverting the entire endgoal of the martial art she's kinda half learning, half copying, half mutating into a totally new thing. Like, that is actually an extremely Sakura thing to do.
@369destroyer 11 ай бұрын
She did somehow get a photo with Akuma, maybe this is how she got his respect to do so XD
@Hawaiiitalian 11 ай бұрын
@@369destroyerher and elena are the only ppl i know that managed to get a photo with akuma and survive
@730Flare 11 ай бұрын
This sort off fits my headcanon from back in the day that Dark/Sunburn Sakura from the VS series is a what-if version of Sakura who decided to idolize Akuma instead of Ryu.
@GlitchanBlack 11 ай бұрын
What's funny is that this basically makes Sakura the first mimic character in fighting games.
@teh1archon 11 ай бұрын
@@GlitchanBlack nah, that would be Reptile and Shang-Tsung in the first Mortal Kombat.
@LadyLockwood92 11 ай бұрын
One of my favourite jokes about Street Fighter was from a UK tech show where they made a joke prediction that a future Street Fighter game's roster would include 'Every human who ever lived...and Dan.'
@arran4285 6 ай бұрын
Seth is the nearest thing to "Every human who ever lived...and Dan" because of the whole absorbing someone's fighting techniques
@furrybproductions 11 ай бұрын
"The only thing Capcom could do was create Street Fighter 3...Capcom proceeded to NOT make Street Fighter 3." 💯% accurate and I'm 💀
@Wolf10media 11 ай бұрын
You can't trust Capcom. But, you can always trust Capcom to be Capcom.
@glacierwolf2155 11 күн бұрын
Honestly, I do not blame them. The weight of the pressure & expectations to essentially create Street Fighter 2 2 must have been _immense._
@FullOedipus 11 ай бұрын
"You must withstand my crunch time to stand a chance" - Capcom
@kokoro_gospel 11 ай бұрын
"I have the strongest deadline in the world." - Street Fighter Alpha
@Lenoh 11 ай бұрын
Man, ‘96 and ‘97 must have been great times to be a sax player. * Arashi No Saxophone 2 from SNK * Sakura’s theme from Arika * Bill Clinton won his 2nd term as President of the United States, beating Bob Dole after Mr. Dole fell off a stage.
@Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17 11 ай бұрын
Great video, but few lore mistakes: 1. Rose is Italian 2. Eliza is the sister of Guile's wife, not Guile
@thirdworldrenegade 11 ай бұрын
Thanks. I thought maybe there were some retcons I missed.
@OccuredJakub12 11 ай бұрын
3. In the Street Fighter universe you can actually beat up random people on the streets at least circa SF6 (Maybe due to Mayor Cody's change in policies?)
@Mclucasrv 11 ай бұрын
Yeah the way that look like he was running to releases this somethings slip up.
@marche800 11 ай бұрын
Robe being Italian is another reference to Lisa Lisa
@TheSwordsman100 11 ай бұрын
4. He also missed that Cody was framed by Eddie E. first before he developed those tendinces. (Even then in the games proper he only breaks out to beat up bad guys) Mike was able to get Cody out of prison by revealing he was framed in V and thats also part of reason he and Lucia have such a close relationship all of the sudden. (As she was also framed in FF3) @OccuredJakub12 Only thing said about Cody in SF6 is that continued all of Mike's polices.
@GlitchanBlack 11 ай бұрын
Sakura & Akuma are STANCED UP in this thumbnail and I love it.
@DasNordlicht91 11 ай бұрын
I like that they're the "representatives" for SF Alpha in the thumbnail, mainly because they're essentially the two characters that are probably synonymous with the Alpha games more than anyone else. (I know Akuma appeared in Super SFII Turbo, but it's the Alpha series where he got further fleshed out.)
@PGO5490 11 ай бұрын
Honestly my favorite thumbnail
@user-pj1ec5om5g 11 ай бұрын
I find it also funny that both of them are in the opposite spectrum of fighters with Sakura being the goofy dork fighter and Akuma is the most evil looking fight loving fuck you’ll ever see lol
@Dracobyte 11 ай бұрын
THIS IS THE STANCE!
@carlbloke8797 11 ай бұрын
Honestly it’s my favorite thumbnail. On top of their sick poses, Sakura pretty much is the top representative of the Alpha era due to how much of her character is fleshed out, having her own manga, got the most crossovers and basically being one of the most popular SF characters of all time now. Akuma to an extent as well, since this is when he actually started to get more fleshed out as a character. There is Dan too who also quickly became a fan favorite and him along with Sakura got a number of crossovers in the 90s from Puzzle Fighter to MVC
@VibingJon 11 ай бұрын
So for the promotional art at 2:04:33, If I had to take an educated guess it is actually a reference to Skullomania's inspiration; the original Kamen Rider series from 1971. In which the main character Takeshi Hongo is abducted by an evil organization and forcibly turned into a cyborg that after breaking out becomes the hero Kamen Rider. The promotional art itself just like the episode has Ryu strapped down in the exact same way Hongo is in the 1st episode with him struggling to break free while in a sparsely lit up laboratory and completely surrounded. If you want to get an idea for yourself of what I am talking about, the first episode of Kamen Rider is available for free on youtube in HD quality. So while I don't know 100% if this was the inspiration, the scenes are so similar that I would say it is near definite.
@negansare4615 11 ай бұрын
And it's also a reference to Kamen rider's original "inspiration": skull man
@VibingJon 11 ай бұрын
@@negansare4615 Yep
@zellaus2649 11 ай бұрын
I’d say it probably is 100%, it’s the only logical explanation to why that promotional art even exists
@VibingJon 11 ай бұрын
@@zellaus2649 My only problem with saying 100% is I don't have a source of saying it is the case. That is why I say near definite, but I do think it was the inspo.
@conradojavier7547 11 ай бұрын
& Shadow Giest look like the Second Kamen Rider hit the Gym.
@firebreathingsnapdragon3344 11 ай бұрын
“6-part series.” CALLED IT.
@glacierwolf2155 11 күн бұрын
Part 1: Street Fighter 1 & 2 Series Part 2: Street Fighter Alpha Series & Street Fighter Ex Series Part 3: Street Fighter 3 Series Part 4: Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game & Other Street Fighter Media Part 5: Street Fighter 4 Series & Street Fighter x Tekken Part 6: Street Fighter 5 & All 5 Seasons of DLC
@MrFutago87 11 ай бұрын
1:09:53 "Even within the Street Fighter universe you can't just go around beating up random people" Street Fighter 6 World Tour Mode: 👀
@elijahwatson3474 11 ай бұрын
Tbf, we are in a previous crime ridden city (that become crime ridden again in the far future) not to mention the mayor.
@OccuredJakub12 11 ай бұрын
"If M.Bison is so great, why isn't there an M.Bison 2?" Arika: 🤔
@TrueZero2 11 ай бұрын
2:04:20 Oh god, that Skullomania poster is a GIGANTIC reference to the original Kamen Rider.
@KevinSkye1 11 ай бұрын
I remember as a kid I was lowkey traumatized when I lost against Bison in Alpha 3. I couldn't fathom that my favorite was just getting milked and I couldn't do anything about it because I lost.
@coversbythevman5945 11 ай бұрын
Retrospective on my birthday? Best gift ever
@santiagomenchaca4248 11 ай бұрын
Is retrospective
@ZerogGames 11 ай бұрын
This video actually made me realize that Kyosuke was the one character on the Capcom side in Capcom vs. SNK 2 who wasn't eventually added into a version of Alpha 3. Damn shame he wasn't, if he had been, he would have been the first playable Rival Schools character in a Street Fighter game before Akira in SF5.
@collaterale1 11 ай бұрын
There is a reason why. As you already know, Thorgi mentioned in his Rival Schools retrospective that the series originally takes place in a seperate universe, and because of Sakura's appearance in the first game, people are speculating that Rival Schools is linked to Street Fighter for decades, and it wasn't until Street Fighter 5 with Akira's inclusion that the developers finally confirmed that both series are indeed connected with each other.
@user-pz5du5nz7j 7 ай бұрын
@@collaterale1 To be fair,Ingrid was also playable in a version of Alpha 3,and her place in canon is...a bit messy to put it lightly. So I don't think canon was that big of a concern.
@neogenesis7706 4 ай бұрын
Batsu in tvc
@misterjersey5460 11 ай бұрын
If there's one thing I like about alpha and ex, it's: 1. The references to the Sf2 movie in alpha 1 and 2 2: *SKULLOMANIA*
@user-oi1iq6tt4j 11 ай бұрын
Ex is underrated, it's fun
@kumaradio5414 11 ай бұрын
For context, the picture of Skullomania about to operate on Ryu is a reference to Kamen Rider, who was a motorcycle rider named Hongo Takeshi that got turned into a Cyborn by the evil organization Shocker
@starpencil 11 ай бұрын
This series is legendary. That entire breakdown of Alpha ones development blew my mind.
@YophiGames 11 ай бұрын
Cody was arrested because he was framed by Poison and arrested by Edi E. The Poison part seems to have been retconned because Cody and Poison are pretty friendly in SFV. He always beat up bad guys. His heart was always to help Metro City. Even as mayor, he is literally recruiting old Mad Gear members to try and reform them to help Metro City because he knows you can’t just Street Fight in order to defeat corruption.
@dnmstarsi 11 ай бұрын
Or maybe time has passed and Cody kinda got over that framing stuff. It's not outside the realm of possibility that Cody could have looked past Poison's actions since that was part of Cody's imprisonment.
@YophiGames 11 ай бұрын
@@dnmstarsi That’s possible, but I think the more probable idea is that Cody wouldn’t. Considering he was bitter the entire time he was in prison…I don’t see him acting as if Poison didn’t do what he did. It’s an important part of his character growth. It makes more sense that they retconned it (or that it was never canon in the first place 😂)
@dnmstarsi 11 ай бұрын
@@YophiGames I don't think Cody was THAT bitter but that's just me.
@YophiGames 11 ай бұрын
@@dnmstarsi you don’t think so? His lines continuously had an “I gave up on myself a long time ago” feel. He continuously talks about how he doesn’t care anymore and does his best to hide the fact that all the people he keeps fighting are actually bad guys 😂. He didn’t like his prison time because whenever someone tried to give him hope, he never took it. He even told Guy that he was going back where he belongs.
@dnmstarsi 11 ай бұрын
@@YophiGames I can see Cody not give a damn anymore but grudge or alike is another story which is why I can believe that Poison would get him framed but he'll get over it just as long as you don't upset him or alike.
@leekebot1802 11 ай бұрын
Can you imagine what history would have been like if Capcom had halfway decent leadership? I swear it's only because their rank and file was talented and possibly insane (given the development time on Alpha) and also a lot of luck, that they managed to make those games.
@jirehtheprovider 11 ай бұрын
From the way you describe it, it weirdly sounds like Nintendo too with this sentence from it's fans "It's Game Developers are godlike, but damn we hate their business and legalese side of their company."
@hitmanmonaghan6633 11 ай бұрын
I got exited when I saw Guy in Alpha. Was hoping Cody would show up, and when he did, I was disappointed he was a prisoner. At least he had a great arch becoming the mayor.
@christopheraustin5915 11 ай бұрын
In the street fighter season of the exceed card game, Dan Hibiki’s gimmick was that he gained power and speed on wild swings (drawing from face down). His deck was built around drawing random cards, a lot of which would miss because they weren’t in range. I really liked how they tailored the mechanics for him as a joke character
@VictorHernandez-nj2lo 11 ай бұрын
Actually, Dhalsim's stretchy limbs were based on a villain from the movie master of the flying guillotine
@tyeefahmonk4146 11 ай бұрын
Yoga Toga Tsung
@tyeefahmonk4146 11 ай бұрын
Zantetsu from Last Blade was inspired by that movie as well. "Win Without A Knife" Y Akuma
@MarioGMan25 11 ай бұрын
Oh so my interpretation of Akuma's reaction to Thanos *stealing* the Satsui No Hadou is accurate. (In which he ambushes Thanos and kicks the ever loving shit out of him)
@gameboi20 11 ай бұрын
So fun fact Karin was originally supposed to be playable in marvel superheroes VS SF there is code in the games files that Karin was gonna be a pallet swap of Sakura but due to limitations and a deadline to make she was cut
@wingbeck4563 11 ай бұрын
Alpha 3 my favorite Street Fighter game love it so much I wish we get Dramatic Battle in the games again that was my favorite mode.
@Mushroomandyou 11 ай бұрын
I knew of Dan but I’d never seen his animations before. The flying kickS and short range one hand fireball are SO Ryo/SNK
@baberuthless 11 ай бұрын
The alpha series is my favorite and im so excited to check this out! Your retrospectives are the best in the biz
@TalkSickMass 11 ай бұрын
Thorgi forgot to highlight that many of the Alpha sprites of the classic characters were traced over the SF2 versions.
@emaculatej650 11 ай бұрын
I played alpha 2 more than I ever played sf2 so I agree
@DouglasStewart99 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, if I had to answer which Street Fighter game introduced me to the series it was both Alpha and EX that did that when I was a kid. Never owned the two game entries, but I have played them before. So this part is a treat for me. 1:55:30-1:56:29 *BLESS YOU* Thorgi for mentioning the music of the EX series! I literally have all the entries OST on both my laptop and phone. Shinji Hosoe and the rest of his squad's music should not be overlooked! Especially since these people would be responsible for other banger game OSTs such as MegaMan Network Transmission & Naruto's Clash of Ninja franchise.
@austinfletchermusic 11 ай бұрын
I love Eagle so much. He's legit a badass
@DasNordlicht91 11 ай бұрын
Alpha 3's aesthetic might be my favorite of any fighting game ever. The selection screen, round graphics, life bars, over-the-top announcer commenting on your match... it just all clicks.
@Exlayer-pk8hy 11 ай бұрын
It's got such a "90's on it's death bed" asthetic, i love it.
@leithaziz2716 11 ай бұрын
I would love to see Arcsystem Works involved in a potential Alpha 4 if Capcom ever decided on a new game. With input from both companies, they could create something amazing.
@villian99918 4 ай бұрын
@@Exlayer-pk8hyI think it’s aged well because a lot of that late 90s/ Y2K stuff is cool again, between that and the soundtrack the game feels at home somehow decades later
@yuzuichikawa 4 ай бұрын
GO FOR BROKE!!!!!
@williammcguire130 11 ай бұрын
I'm so excited for the EX series to get covered
@harrylane4 11 ай бұрын
??? He already covered it here
@williammcguire130 11 ай бұрын
@@harrylane4 I was saying that I was excited about that.
@bookishdelight 11 ай бұрын
Ayyyyyy, nice job getting this out for EVO weekend :D Sigh. I _adored_ Ingrid and Area when they originally popped up, then got to see them cold-shouldered for the rest of my life. Same as it ever was, I guess.
@coreywong6229 11 ай бұрын
Then in 6 Ingrid trolls us all.
@freddyalejo1657 11 ай бұрын
The one thing that will always come to mind when I think of Street Fighter Alpha 2 is that awesome intro. The visuals combined with that incredible theme music just really draws me to that game for so many years now.
@MaverickZeroD 11 ай бұрын
1:29:52 I remember once reading that Kyosuke was supposed to be added to the GBA version of SFA3. So I was shocked when they didn't add him. When the PSP version was released, I thought he'd be added then. I was surprised it was Ingrid but I didn't mind. I liked her. But I was also wishing that they added Kyosuke instead or additionally. It would've made more sense.
@Rocklee13419 11 ай бұрын
I just got into the Street Fighter series from these retrospectives. Thanks for creating these amazing videos that has gotten me into such a goated franchise. THE HYPE IS REAL! 🎉
@AtJoee230 10 ай бұрын
Pfp checks out
@Exlayer-pk8hy 11 ай бұрын
The Street fighter Alpha part of the franchise is easily my favorite. I love the heavy anime asthetic of these games a lot more than the styles of the other games
@user-oi1iq6tt4j 11 ай бұрын
Same though I want that hd remix one so bad 😆
@KnaveMurdok 10 ай бұрын
I am floored to learn that those Street Fighter 1 portraits are fanart from a magazine. I've been seeing those pictures for like 25 years and I always had just assumed they were the official art for the game.
@timothygarcia1682 11 ай бұрын
I love the alpha series
@thebloodedge284 11 ай бұрын
Me too
@marioaustin9312 11 ай бұрын
The only time you can say the prequels matched or surpassed the original
@user-oi1iq6tt4j 11 ай бұрын
Same
@liquidsnake23 11 ай бұрын
FUN FACT: when i was younger i liked Juli for her darker hair but she had less moveset than cammy and juni. There's a Street fighter character history book from udon which states for her, that she couldnt be as efficient in her fighting style due to her "build". I'm guessing she didnt have aerodynamics. :P
@Tedris4 11 ай бұрын
On the "simpler" thing I remember getting downvoted on Reddit for saying that the simplified and more fluid combo systems in Guilty Gear Strive betas were a work in progress and they'd improve the feel with further dev time. They also insisted that it would be a failure cause it was "losing hardcore fans"... The FGC really needs some reality checks sometimes.
@glacierwolf2155 10 күн бұрын
Yeah, the FGC has a _huge_ elitism problem, unfortunately. The community stays afloat because new people join it, not because the top dogs keep coming back. Fighting games developers will cater to the casuals and make their games simpler & more beginner-friendly because _that's where most of the money comes from._ Plus, expert fighting game players _already_ have the perfect games for them with their favorite mechanics: The older titles and mods of the newer titles.
@thirdworldrenegade 11 ай бұрын
1:14:14 Bison's Psycho Drive Crusher is unblockable in the air, no matter which ISM is chosen.
@villian99918 4 ай бұрын
One of the ways you used to be able to cheese it was with a well timed shoryuken so the hit wouldn’t register. Took me forever to get the timing right as a kid
@glacierwolf2155 10 күн бұрын
Sometimes, it really is just a knowledge check.
@SquallNoctisGUX 11 ай бұрын
I still think it’s absolutely hilarious how Capcom gained so much success from SF2 and didn’t go into SF3 afterwards especially considering how many titles they would churn out in the 90’s 🤣
@MrSkerpentine 11 ай бұрын
Now begs the real question: Can Cracker Jack stop the Train in GTA 5????
@marcbraun5342 11 ай бұрын
Itsuno went through the "what doesn't break* you, makes you stronger"-school of development and now he's the god among game directors. That payed out huge, now we know his name and I've already forgotten the name of the jerk who insulted him. He did his part though. *small liberties taken in the quote here.
@TalkSickMass 11 ай бұрын
SF co-creator Hiroshi Matsumoto was the main guy behind Art of Fighting though Nishiyama head produce the development.
@thetruej7872 11 ай бұрын
Street Fighter 3 is my favorite in the franchise. I love they put the "Street" in Street Fighter 3 and most of the newcomers were awesome! Elena, Dudley, Ibuki, Makoto, Necro, Twelve, Q, Oro, Alex, and Sean are cool newcomers imo. Only one I don't care for was Remy. Plus the soundtrack is a banger.
@WokioWolfy 11 ай бұрын
True, but damn, did that game had to go through thick and thin to be recognized as a great game. People only thought of it as Ryu, Ken and a bunch of weirdos.
@Tungdil_01 11 ай бұрын
@@WokioWolfy back in the day I was one of these people. At that time I complained even with Alpha for not having the classic characters of SF2. By the way, during the 90s I thought SF2 was the first in the franchise lol
@SoulBro12 11 ай бұрын
@@Tungdil_01I find it funny because I'm always bothered that 2 of my go-to's (Yang and Oro) aren't playable in the same game after sf3 and don't care about the sf2 cast all too much.
@thetruej7872 11 ай бұрын
@@WokioWolfyRight?
@scw1980 11 ай бұрын
I share the sentiment I also personally like SF3 New Generation & 2nd Impact more than 3rd Strike. I will give 3rd Strike this the control was better, Makoto was introduced and Alex, Ryu, Elena Ibuki & Urien themes were improvements.
@bloodycard6314 11 ай бұрын
Glad to see the ex series aside from its amazing sountrack finally getting some love after all those years, the ex games where ahead of its time and with so many hidden secrets.
@mhstylesmugen 11 ай бұрын
There's a misunderstanding of Ingrid's story in Alpha 3 max mostly because of translation issues, she didn't come to take the psycho power from Bison, she came to take back a shard like the ones she puts on her hair that Bison stole so he can empower his Psycho drive weapon. As for the people who says that she came and squashed Bison and what not, in her story she said that she needs 15 minutes to beat him, that seems like a long fight for me.
@therussianwanderer4851 11 ай бұрын
You mean 15 shards.
@mhstylesmugen 11 ай бұрын
@@therussianwanderer4851 No, 15 minutes. Oops I forgot to put the word "minutes" in there.
@Mclucasrv 11 ай бұрын
Alpha and KoF made me care about fg stories for the better or for the worst, I wish more fighting game did those type of arcade stories instead of whatever tekken 7 and gg strive tried to do.
@orlanzo2621 11 ай бұрын
Me personally i always loved EX Plus Alpha the most out of the EX games, tho that may just be nostalgia because i got that game Christmas of 1998 and played the heck out of it with my little brother. I didn't play EX 2 Plus until years later. Oh yea i agree with Alpha 2>Alpha 3, i've always felt it was the better game. Anyway, absolutely loved this man, excellent work as usual Thorgi. Can't wait for part 3.
@fireknuckles1932 11 ай бұрын
If Capcom decide to do a Street Fighter reboot make a whole new story like Chun-Li actually become Shadow Lady or Sakura succumbs to the Dark Hado maybe Ryu do become Evil Ryu briefly like go all out in the stories of what if scenarios that become canon.
@casanovafunkenstein5090 11 ай бұрын
I could see a parallel - universe version of Street Fighter being really interesting. It's kinda like what Nether Realm is doing with MK1, except a bit less contrived and with the existing character backgrounds preserved Maybe the outcome of SF1 is different and Ryu doesn't manage to catch Sagat off-guard and internalises that failure, causing him to give in to his dark side. Some interesting things can spin off from that: Sagat could reject the proposal to join shadaloo and becomes an ally to the World Warriors, creating a vacant spot in the hierarchy that opens up room for Adon to work his way in - completely upsetting the balance of power with his backstabbing and attempts to undermine the other boss characters, possibly even deposing Bison by cutting off his access to clone bodies and taking Psycho Power for himself so that there's a new antagonist for the spin off. I guess that if you were inclined to do so, you could build a romhack using Alpha 3 as a foundation with the narrative shaken up and the characters given some new animations, moves and sprites. I feel like a good name for it would be Street Fighter: Mirror Match Dimension
@lukeblaker8009 11 ай бұрын
@@casanovafunkenstein5090there is no way adon could ever do that lol kid is a failure, besides that the idea is cool
@Coyoda 11 ай бұрын
Love love love your retrospective. Was interesting learning the history behind the games creations especially. However, the earliest Combo Trial mode that I found and was released a year before street fighter ex was Fighter's History: Mizoguchi Kiki Ippatsu on the super nintendo as well as having a Tag battle mode that also pre-dates x-men vs street fighter japanese arcades by a year as well, and having the visual novel story mode gameplay you'd see with a lot of anime fighters today. It's rather obscure though of course having become more associated with SNK over time (with Mizoguchi appearing in KOF Maximum impact Regulation A). You could say the combo trial and tag vs mode's first appearance outside of Japan is indeed Street Fighter EX2
@proximaeon 11 ай бұрын
The artwork of the Skullmania-fied characters of Street Fighter is obviously a reference to the creation of the first Kamen Rider, as Ichigou and Nigou are both Cyborgs, modified by the evil organization Shocker.
@colaocha1115 11 ай бұрын
Dan Hibiki's popularity may have been overtaken by Neko Arc over the past few years
@Kinshinobi 11 ай бұрын
That pickles on the burger line was a chef's kiss
@VibingJon 11 ай бұрын
Bruh, I literally just watched part 1 yesterday just for this to be released today. 😆 Lucky me I guess!
@waffleboi7487 11 ай бұрын
The hype is real
@handbanana165 11 ай бұрын
That intro was fucking fantastic!
@sonicfan5833 11 ай бұрын
You're telling me every single fighter in Alpha 2 gets their own symbol for finishing an opponent with a Custom Combo!? The Spriters Resource... HERE I COME!
@lazycouchman 11 ай бұрын
Just wanna say thank you for making these awesome videos! Usually when I see longer videos I lose interest, but your videos are always really fun and interesting to watch.
@futureartist9 11 ай бұрын
Holy crap I checked back randomly to see if part 2 was uploaded and what do you know, 4 hours ago! So excited to watch
@BooshojoSenshi 11 ай бұрын
Another excellent retrospective! I love this series and rewatch it almost daily (sleep time playlist, ftw). I appreciate the amount of work and effort put into this channel!! Thank you for the great content!
@dnmstarsi 11 ай бұрын
To me, EX3 is like Rise of the TMNT: it's not bad, just misunderstood. However, I don't see it as THAT underrated but it is definitely worth checking out and who knows, maybe you'll appreciate this more.
@KevinSkye1 11 ай бұрын
Never forget from that SF2 Animated Movie, we got "Chief Running Mouth" from Ken. I'll never forget that line and I laugh at it more as I get older.
@Mugiwara2k 11 ай бұрын
Insane detail and dedication to research with these videos. You really do go above and beyond with these. Great work man.
@G_Gr00v3 Ай бұрын
Bengus is easily my favorite visual artist of all time, his work on Alpha, Darkstalkers, and Marvel vs Capcom is a big reason I got into fighting games in the first place
@LowellLucasJr. 11 ай бұрын
Evo day + SF Thorgi = Fighting Bliss!!!❤
@ryanperrault8174 6 ай бұрын
Hooked on these videos, thanks for making them. Always liked fighting games but played them more casually...this has sparked something in me that has been missing for years.
@MrCalverino 7 ай бұрын
u made the best retrospectives I've seen PERIOD!!! I've been watching these on repeat... I totally love your humor!!!
@jonatassilva2605 11 ай бұрын
Yo on EVO day? Awesome!!
@HowdyImAlex 11 ай бұрын
Loving your personal input on this history and the gameplay. Thanks so much for the great content!
@kylestyle5693 6 ай бұрын
I can’t get enough of your work. I’ve spent so many hours listening to your voice, It’s basically hypnotizing now.
@Perez3005 11 ай бұрын
Was looking forward to this! Thanks mr Thorgi! Looking forward to the next parts
@DarthEnderX 11 ай бұрын
I miss the anime art style for SF...none of the modern era SF games uses it, even though ArcSys has perfected the tech for modern anime fighters.
@dnmstarsi 11 ай бұрын
Same but at least SF didn't start with the anime artstyle. That would've been worse arguably. The closest we'll get is the Bengus art and alike.
@MonsieurMaouji 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, same here.
@kimjimkun98876 11 ай бұрын
The intro to this series is hype as hell
@Exlayer-pk8hy 11 ай бұрын
The next Super Smash Brothers needs to have Ken's stage from Alpha 2 as his home stage. It's such a cool stage.
@dnmstarsi 11 ай бұрын
That's assuming Ken is gonna return for the next game. Besides, I prefer mixing Ken's stages into one. Like with Ryu, his stage would be based on his SF2 stage but the boat is modeled after the one from SF3 and 6 but like Alpha 2 and Terry's stage, it'll have its share of cameos spectating the fight on Ken's boat.
@thedapperdolphin1590 11 ай бұрын
Throw in Chun Li while we’re at it
@gregvs.theworld451 11 ай бұрын
@@thedapperdolphin1590 Man, I know they probably wouldn't want to oversaturate the roster with SF characters, and if they did Smash fans would probably get real mad about it, but I've thought to myself many times about how other SF characters would look/play in Smash. Chun, Bison, Akuma, Zangief, Dan, there's so many SF characters who'd probably look stylish af if fully adapted into Smash.
@Exlayer-pk8hy 11 ай бұрын
@@gregvs.theworld451 I think it would be funny if future smash entries just add Akuma and Sakura on top of Ryu and Ken. We have 3 Links and 4 Marths so there Is a precedent for that.
@gregvs.theworld451 11 ай бұрын
@@Exlayer-pk8hy Hear me out: A secret Akuma battle at the end of classic mode where he raging demons Master Hand, and you unlock him upon defeating him.
@CapLives 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Subscribed after PT.1. I'm from your comic channel and wanted to know more about Street Fighter. Found your MvC Build the Roster videos and binged a lot of the videos here. Keep up the great work 👍🏿.
@zacksokolowski6173 11 ай бұрын
Zack's Note: The 1 frame recycle message is the "Recycle It, Don't Trash It" screen, it's a extra in the xbox ports of the KI arcade games.
@joanjoestar3252 11 ай бұрын
dude this channel is underrated you deserve way more subs
@EggDudeYT 11 ай бұрын
I love how this video is planned despite being like an 2:30-hours long it was very informative and entertaining, pls keep adding more dev histories they enrich the appreciation of how said games are made.
@SnowyOwlKonnen 11 ай бұрын
Excellent work once again, always interesting to learn more about these games. And on a side note, yeah the hate for Ingrid always felt like the most artificially forced thing. As if it was a joke that people began to take seriously. It's odd.
@dnmstarsi 11 ай бұрын
Yep. Sure, I don't care much for her other than her design but I really don't see the hate for her (though I also don't that much love and demand for her) other than how OPed and mysterious she came off as in Alpha 3 Max. It did make me roll my eyes over her existence but not enough to dislike her.
@edgarlozada3858 11 ай бұрын
The Zero/Alpha series was my introduction to Street Fighter when I was a kid. Without those games (specially 3) there's a chance I may have never fully gotten into Street Fighter. So glad that I did.
@villian99918 4 ай бұрын
3 was the first fighting game I really played. I played it on the ps2 as a kid since you could play the ps1 port on there. I genuinely had no idea max existed so when I ran it on emulator my mind blew
@teh1archon 11 ай бұрын
If my memory doesn't betray me, Shin Akuma was playable in alpha 2 on PC (I don't know why this version is reviled, I have dozens of hours in it) but it doesn't have evil Ryu. Also I didn't know you can play the secret characters in alpha 1 and God knows how many hours and quarters I spent on it in the arcades.
@MinusTylerWorld 11 ай бұрын
Incredible video, mate! I know this just came out but this SF series has left me frothing for part 3. Keep up the solid work
@fernandozavaletabustos205 11 ай бұрын
I gotta be honest I prefer Alpha Series over the SF III because of the art style, the flashing visuals, the music and the less technical gameplay. I do not know if I am in the minority, but the Alpha series were more approchable for me just because I could easily play it on console. Of course that accesibility would change over time, but that first impressions and the feeling of owning a SF game in my home (I played the older games in the arcades or console rent locals) mattered a lot.
@stevesteve0521 11 ай бұрын
Most people do
@user-oi1iq6tt4j 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. SF III sucks
@stevesteve0521 11 ай бұрын
@@user-oi1iq6tt4j i wouldn’t say it sucks but people saying third strike is the best sf game just because everyone else says it is laughable to me
@user-oi1iq6tt4j 11 ай бұрын
@@stevesteve0521 lol 3rd strike? Best sf game? Hell no
@fernandozavaletabustos205 11 ай бұрын
I am not saying that SF III sucks, as it achieved its own very important goals for the franchise and its developers. I am just say that as a casual player, Alpha is more appealing for me.@@user-oi1iq6tt4j
@TetsuDeinonychus 11 ай бұрын
Awesome retrospective, but when you got to Alpha 3, I wish you covered the "SF3: Saikyo Dojo" upgraded port that came out for the Dreamcast and Naomi arcade boards. It introduced online play and some of the extra modes and gameplay elements that you're crediting "MAX" for.
@dnmstarsi 11 ай бұрын
True but MAX is just basically the complete Alpha 3 package while Dreamcast was just Alpha 3 with Online and some changes. It is arguably noteworthy but not enough to give it its own spotlight compared to GBA and PSP that have more noteworthy things to say.
@PlatformerFan 9 ай бұрын
Crawfish Interactive’s time developing Alpha 3 Upper sounds like it was a nightmare, hot dang.
@dog_knight 11 ай бұрын
Awesome work. Really enjoyed it. Will be along for the whole series, even if it takes me a while to get through it all.
@Eliburgo 11 ай бұрын
Love the Alpha/Zero series
@DolFunDolhpinVtuber 11 ай бұрын
I play a lot of fighting games like Street Fighter, I really enjoy these videos you make.
@zakman6471 11 ай бұрын
Love the thumbnail, intro was killa! Great video!. The anime movie was nutz back in the day
@trebienparker5349 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely outstanding video man. This is absolute gold.
@tyeefahmonk4146 11 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO but another correction. Evil Ryu (Satsui No Hado Ryu) was not available on the original release of Street Fighter Zero 2 in Japan along with Champion Edition versions of Dhalsim and Zangief. He did not become playable in Japan until Street Fighter Zero 2' (Dash)
@25circlegaming 11 ай бұрын
2:04:50 here's the answer: it's a Kamen Rider reference, Hongo Takeshi, the 1st Kamen Rider, was operated on by the evil organization Shocker to turn him into one of their cyborg monsters but was saved before being brainwashed thus Becoming Kamen Rider P.S. if you look at Skullomania's design in EX2 he has the same henshin belt as Kamen Rider Ichigo and Niigo
@zachariahscott6648 11 ай бұрын
I hit the Like button on this video especially, because of all the free invaluable tips offered for most of these wonderful games in these Street Fighter series!
@gamerbear84 Ай бұрын
Stroheim was the one that Guile's hair is credit for taking inspiration from. Alpha 2 on the PC is the game I credit for taking me from liking fighting games to loving 'em. I'd played SF2 and MK on my Amiga 500, Super and MKs 2 and 3 on a friend's SNES, various games at arcades, but Alpha 2 just somehow hit differently and unlocked a deeper tier of appreciation.
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