STRETCH BELT WITH ZIP TIE???

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Nuts & Bolts with Tone

Жыл бұрын

All you need is a zip tie to install stretch belts.

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@markcarr5142 Жыл бұрын

Engineering : how gay do you want this engine? GM : yes

@tomthackston1442 Жыл бұрын

I want it happy and gay.

@mastersonbat8633 Жыл бұрын

GM is such a pain in the ass

@ihavethedocuments2580 Жыл бұрын

😂

@MrTheHillfolk Жыл бұрын

Insert dildos flying in your face LS engine meme here.

@dumpywhite Жыл бұрын

I'd be a terrible parent then cuz I sure as hell wouldn't want my engine coming out

@joelm.8558 Жыл бұрын

My old car has manual tensioners , $4 belts and no problems 😊 🙌

@Iaintwoke 11 ай бұрын

And you can retention them as they stretch instead of replacing each time.

@grapeseed427 Жыл бұрын

Manufacturers nowadays have a hate boner for anyone repairing or even maintaining their own vehicle. I'm sure a big part of the sticker price is due to research and development of ways to make it harder for DIY people and more lucrative for the service department.

@calebz1448 Жыл бұрын

It really does feel purposeful when you find the least logical repairs like this. Like placing a fuel filter inside of a fuel tank is just asking for a labor intensive maintenance life

@jimsalabim9203 Жыл бұрын

Lol "hate boner".....hilarious

@heathkill4821 Жыл бұрын

Remember when obama hussain tried to pass a law so we couldnt buy parts and fix our own cars, we would have to take it to a dealership. But all of us dealer mechanics didnt let that happen because what are they gonna make us sign our cars into the shop and have someone else fix it when we are certified techs that are supposed to do the fixing… so ya that didnt work out for him so he made CASH FOR CLUNKERS, and it paid a lot of money for craps ass cars, but what most people didnt know was after they traded the vehicle in it will never see the junk yard. They make us pull the vehicle in the shop immedialty and dump liquid concrete in the gas tank and engine then bounce them off rev limiter till they lock up and the entire vehicle is usless and then cash for clunkers shows up and hauls them directly to gwt melted down… ever wonder why you cant find parts or cars in junkyards that why and really only dealer mechanics knew about this because we had to destroy the vehicle the government forced us to do it. So that meant buying the cars at high prices so people would fall for it but hey didnt know that trading them in was making them disapear by the millions of cars and truck amd after the fact everyone was mad but open your eyes they paid 3,000 for a piece of shit thats not even worth $500 just to melt them down so no parts can be had. We pretty much got rid of two generations of vehicles all acrossed the usa

@grapeseed427 Жыл бұрын

@@heathkill4821 I definitely remember cash for clunkers, I was there. I saw so many engines roll out the back door into the beds of pickup trucks, in the hatches of minivans and even in the trunks of cars. I don't think anyone ever checked the cars to see if they were whole, just a mass crushing of cars from my childhood.

@heathkill4821 Жыл бұрын

@@grapeseed427 it is very sad im not sure where you live but the western pa junkyards are full of new cars its so hard to find anything usefull. And the new cars are so smashed up there is nothing good usually i wish cash for clunkers never happened

@rebelscumspeedshop Жыл бұрын

Stretch belts and serpentine belts make me happy...I get all warm and fuzzy putting them on.

@smirkinatu5512 Жыл бұрын

Thank you making and posting this video.

@eric63377 Жыл бұрын

You said you don't need a tool. Volkswagen said hold my beer..

@4by_yotaguy373 11 ай бұрын

The BMW stretch belts are pretty messed up too

@chuckdiers341 Жыл бұрын

Belt Idler tensioner pulley come to mind.

@Axle-Mackwithasinglestack Жыл бұрын

Amazingly my 08 GMC 6.0 V8. Has a little tensioner for the AC belt. Almost like engineers purposely screw you over.

@liuj88 Жыл бұрын

@@Axle-Mackwithasinglestack Not the engineers. The bean counters.

@klocke5247 Жыл бұрын

They just keep making cars worse every year. The stretch belt saves them money, because no adjustment assemblies are needed. Yet the price is increased as you get less.

@budcunningham6732 Жыл бұрын

I say we boycott the automobile industry. We all join the Amish and drive horse and buggies ...

@MrTheHillfolk Жыл бұрын

Yep it's like paying more for unsalted.

@MrTheHillfolk Жыл бұрын

@@budcunningham6732 at least if ya get drunk ,the horse knows the way home.

@Trendyrapslut Жыл бұрын

Isn't that something. Less manufacturing cost and effort and yet the cars are increasingly more expensive every year

@robertbell525 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand why they don't have the ac running off the same serpentine belt as the other accessories. One tensioner for everything and it worked perfectly fine for decades. We have done such hard work to over-complicate everything possible. Good heavens.

@--Allen-- Ай бұрын

It worked! I'd do a back flip if I didn't think I'd break something on me that I might need.

@mlieser1230 Жыл бұрын

Another great tip! Years ago I worked with a tech who cut old belts with a Ginsu knife. This was in the days when you had adjusters. We all laughed at him. His technique would work great with these stretch belts. He was ahead of his time.

@NutsandBoltswithTone Жыл бұрын

Lol that's funny. Times are changing

@jamesgravel7755 Жыл бұрын

For a ls. I’ve never used a tool. But for the new LT’s. That tool is critical to get the main belt on. It makes it so much easier.

@krookdfinra Жыл бұрын

I bought the gates tool. But this works better honestly. Cheaper too

@codyjones9862 Жыл бұрын

I just don't understand how engineering went backwards. They could have figured something else out for that but they said screw em we won't be working on em

@Jfjs58-g Жыл бұрын

Humanity reached its peak in the 1900s, now it’s getting dumber every day. Soon people will wet the crops with Gatorade and have a toilet included in the armchair.

@tynewlin Жыл бұрын

@@Jfjs58-g bUt It's gOt eLecTroLytEs. It's GoT wHat PlaNts CrAve.

@JAMESWUERTELE Жыл бұрын

@@Jfjs58-g 😁😁😁 shut up, I’m baitin

@LynxStarAuto Жыл бұрын

@@Jfjs58-g love that movie, but holy hell it's not funny anymore. It's actually scary!

@PepeLaughPhD Жыл бұрын

GM tech for 6 years, thats how i do a stretchy belt EVERY time

@TheGenerationX894 Жыл бұрын

If you situate the belt just like he said, you can hold that belt tight on the balancer with your hand while you ratchet the engine over, it'll pop on, do it all the time on the GM's

@MrMaddparkison Жыл бұрын

Looks like my 5.3 an it had a stretch belt. But if you see that bolt hole just to the right of the ac. That's where a tensioner bolts in. After ours broke a few belts I found this out. But the zip ties do work well in a pinch. Sometimes better that the special tool.

@PatrickJago Жыл бұрын

Oh great. I have to re-learn how to put a belt on? What will the brilliant minds think of next?

@mattc9875 Жыл бұрын

Nice vid, your voice reminds me of the Canadian actor of the Blues Brothers 😁

@tonykb2193 Жыл бұрын

On mazda engines with ac pump under the sump you can loosen the pump bolts, tilt the pump and slip the stretchy belt on.

@assymcgee2835 Жыл бұрын

That works on these LS motors too....I've done it

@EZ-D-FIANT Жыл бұрын

I was about to say this works on few different motors (maybe with a scredriver persuader), I haven't worked in LS's (I'm UK) but apparently even those......

@engineerpauly7480 Жыл бұрын

Don't turn the engine with the starter! Use a socket and rachet ffs!

@keithbland5365 11 ай бұрын

Damn good info, much respect.

@JUSTINATV Жыл бұрын

I've used this technique many many times. It works great!

@knowledge5106_ Жыл бұрын

Yup that's how my 04 Avalanche Engine is. Thankfully you can drive without the AC belt as in my case because I need a new AC compressor. Just need a shop to evacuate the refrigerant for me first.

@jenwright2577 Жыл бұрын

You can also install a tensioner and use the old style belt

@Ryan-uc6ui Жыл бұрын

I remember this technique being mentioned in another video, but it didn't work out and the belt just slipped off of the AC pulley. After watching your video I saw that I forgot to put the belt behind the crankshaft pulley; thank you for showing this!

@firstlast--- Жыл бұрын

Wow I wish I saw this a few days ago. A 19 sierra had me cussing big time over the ac belt. Great tip, will definitely use this next time

@Hernandez530 Жыл бұрын

I fought one of those for like 30min. Good tip 👍

@NutsandBoltswithTone Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@joejust9269 11 ай бұрын

😮😢 45 years as a mechanic. So glad I'm retired

@tankthefrank2958 11 ай бұрын

You can by a belt tensioner and a belt for an older ls truck that still uses the tensioner setup. Bolts right on then you can change the belt the way it should be.

@dannylinc6247 Жыл бұрын

Rule of thumb, largest pulley last. Check for TSB's if there's an issue. And that's a crankshaft dampener, not a "balancer". Just a fact.

@NutsandBoltswithTone Жыл бұрын

Omg thank you so much, I appreciate your knowledge. You are so smart

@kevinking5683 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for splitting that hair for the rest of us. SMH

@crimsonlight4205 Жыл бұрын

Harmonic balancer is the common name for it. Same part. Just a fact.

@dannylinc6247 Жыл бұрын

@@crimsonlight4205 that's not the name of the correct part. But you can go in the aftermarket and call it a jet propulsion bamboozler if you want. It dampens torsional thrust and distortions made during power pulse, so, it's called a dampener. The engines balance is made at the opposite end of the crank as required. Not knowing, some twit assumed it balances and "misnomered" it in the afternarket. It's common to call margarine made of hydrogenated oil, butter. And you could lose loved ones before you figure out you're being misled by fools. You can do whatever you like, you're just not correct using incorrect terms and spreading it. It perpetuates ignorance, so it's noteworthy. I would have lost points in tech school and had a low GPA if I was like you. It's too expensive to give years to training and study to have never read a proper service manual and be the last guy at the part counter to get help for my customer. Foreign language to a real counterman gets your requisition slip lost on the floor somewhere. Try it, Go to your manufacturers parts counter with incorrect terms. Don't read the service manual, charge a person 120.00 an hour, and waste time and money. See if you get good help. See if you help anyone.

@crimsonlight4205 Жыл бұрын

@@dannylinc6247 ah tech school, that explains a lot actually. It’s great that you went to school and furthered your education on vehicles, but that doesn’t mean everyone else is an idiot. Go anywhere in the world and ask for a harmonic balancer and they will know what your talking about. Go to the manufacturer parts counter looking for a harmonic balancer and they will give you a harmonic balancer. It’s two names for the same part. That’s like saying a headlight switch is actually an illumination mechanism. It’s a meaningless over complication.

@josearellano3268 Жыл бұрын

This works. Done it to my Ford Fiesta..

@Randolution Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the shortcut

@nickstukey7650 Жыл бұрын

You don't need zip ties. I use a screwdriver no issue. No damage to the belt or pully

@calvingreene90 10 ай бұрын

Be nice to see it work.

@tennphil Жыл бұрын

Great tips 👌

@AlbertaPatriot1985 Жыл бұрын

This is actually the “service tool” that Chrysler tells us to use for stretch belts

@NutsandBoltswithTone Жыл бұрын

That is crazy that it is the service info for that. Gm actually has a specific tool to put them on and certain brands of ac belts comes with it. Zip tie is just easier even though I have the right tool. Thanks for watching

@no1ghostrider Жыл бұрын

The old guys can do it with out tools, because that's how we put our chains back on our bikes when they feel off

@loganthepartschanger Жыл бұрын

Its 3 bolts to unbolt the compresser, when u unbolt it, leave the top one in, so it can turn a bit, put your belt on and tighten the ac compressor. Bada boom bada Bing

@fredjohnson3643 5 ай бұрын

This helped so much

@BeardedFordTech Жыл бұрын

Or a 10mm wrench works too

@davidmc62 Жыл бұрын

Holding on to the belt while someone cranks the motor is always a really bad idea! let me re-emphasize this, someone holding on to a belt while you crank the motor is a really bad idea! Never do this... Besides that comment, yes a cable tie is a great idea, and one I have used before. it works, but sometimes it can take a few tries. The challenge is having the right tension on the zip tie. Don't start the motor, just crank it a tiny bit at a time. Good luck, and please be safe!

@catsaregovernmentspies Жыл бұрын

My grandfather lost his thumb at the 1st knuckle in a v-belt. As a kid he always did that missing thumb trick dads do, except his was really missing 😆 🤣 😂

@JAMESWUERTELE Жыл бұрын

@@catsaregovernmentspies 😁😁😁

@kkol22 10 ай бұрын

I work at a parts store and some of our belts even say in the description that a zip tie is needed. They are making these cars harder and harder for "home" mechanics to work on. I mean Chevy lately and thier battery installation is crazy, air induction over the top of the battery and fuse box on it as well...my subaru is easier than that!!!! So much for made in America!?!?!?

@Nickopolidis Жыл бұрын

I throw away my AC compresor with all related elements included and got a belt several numbers below (bypassing compresor) and now got more power, I’m melting like an ice cream on the side walk but engine runs light.

@niceguy1183 Жыл бұрын

Zip ties! Now rivaling duct tape!

@TurboTyTy Жыл бұрын

I have ac stretch belts on my Mazda I use the gates tool, but next time I replace the belt I’ll try this method out. Thanks for sharing

@ArnoldsDesign Жыл бұрын

Ingenious solution

@BT59 Жыл бұрын

Good tip, thanks

@DavidMoore-co2ze Жыл бұрын

I like serpentine belts. They can be tricky to install. But better trying to adjust 4 or 5 V- belts like on 60s and 70s models. They could be nightmare to tension and adjust. Always belt squel.

@norelation5344 Жыл бұрын

I guess nobody ever taught you the stick it on halfway and crank the engine over trick works pretty much the same way just no zip tie

@tjonesauto Жыл бұрын

Turn the engine over: quick on/off or "bump" the key

@skookapalooza2016 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip!

@Miketaylornews Жыл бұрын

Hope I never have that model where I have to go through all that just to take the belt on and off

@ShaneAgain Жыл бұрын

Ziptie is considered a tool if you're using it the same way as the tool provided.

@here_to_watch2115 Жыл бұрын

Your a genius!

@brendanjones3395 Жыл бұрын

I'm not sticking up for engineers but sometimes they are forced to makes sacrifices like production cost budget restraint Incompatibility with other systems of vehicle. Production start date. Recall due to unforseen part failure necessitating part design modification.

@VanMan89 Жыл бұрын

Gm Engineering staff meeting: 🤡💩🤡🙉🤹🤸🙈🙊🤡🤡👻😵‍💫🥳💩🤡

@chiliwhit747 Жыл бұрын

Should have a belt tensioner, never heard of stretch belts ....😎

@NutsandBoltswithTone Жыл бұрын

It is actually becoming quite common on the ac belt across multiple manufacturers. Subaru, Nissan, Ford

@bobbysenterprises3220 11 ай бұрын

Years of saying not to put belts on like this. Now it's the only way

@jesseleblanc1199 Жыл бұрын

Seems like this is evolution in reverse....we went from v belts with adjusters to a spring loaded serpentine belt with tensioner and now this .....let's keep re inventing that wheel

@crimsonlight4205 Жыл бұрын

Well serpentine belts are more efficient and last longer before getting stretched compared to v belts, it was an upgrade. These are just… more annoying versions of that.

@starkillerbeats420 Жыл бұрын

What happened to releasing tension on the tensioner pulley ?

@NutsandBoltswithTone Жыл бұрын

No tensioner pulley and quite a few manufacturers doing this now

@warrenfloyd1484 Жыл бұрын

Next thing you know, they will come up with belt lube🤣🤣

@larrypiper7674 Жыл бұрын

Alwayseasiersaidthandone

@bobbypridgen2641 Жыл бұрын

smart. thanks for the tip

@silverdragontaylir8252 Жыл бұрын

Genius (thank you)

@billlynn7983 Жыл бұрын

Autos are going to be like john deere tractors. When you replace a air filter or an oil filter or add on a brush hog, you have a john deere factory technician to reprogram the tractor or it voids the warranty.

@jamesd.9955 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for this method. The special tool was worthless

@harrydavidaererua8017 Жыл бұрын

I will stick to itch start loading....never failed.

@joey.g Жыл бұрын

So if you put the belt behind the balancer how does it get around the shaft in order to be installed onto the rear pulley because the balancer wood block it from being installed

@kb01663 Жыл бұрын

The main serpentine belt i use the tool and a ziptie.

@carlosgarza4089 Жыл бұрын

You can also hold the belt. And sound the engine hard

@craigdave3266 Жыл бұрын

I never seen that tool show how to use that tool in hand

@shanebogenreif2789 Жыл бұрын

So is what your saying is they got rid of pully tensioner? I didn't know that...

@2tommyrad Жыл бұрын

Head Designer: Rube Goldberg.

@donaldgibsonjr3448 Жыл бұрын

Ok every car has a bet tencher if not then thus is a new one on me

@MrGregsRnR Жыл бұрын

Or you spend a little extra and buy a tensioner and hardware and convert it to a tensioner belt system vs the stretch style.

@barretharms655 Жыл бұрын

If you don't purchase a musical wire and tie it up appropriately so as to cut that zip tie then you will be purchasing a new Stretch Belt every year if not more frequently because if the belt breaks the zip tie then you will put a kink in the belt oftentimes breaking several strings. Or you can just use that knob on the assembly tool and glue a rope into it wrap the Rope around your mean wheel and use your power ratchet to turn the wheel. True it is noisy but you're only fighting two Pistons at any one time and as long as you don't have the key turned on you won't have to worry about those pesky spark plugs or the fuel pump. If you still can't get that belt on then you are nowhere near done tearing down that engine it is seized up. Or you forgot to pull the spark plugs. That's how my ten-year-old boy puts a stretch belt on a V8 BB. And yeah with the spark plugs in even without a battery if you went to crank on that thing it would suck him right into the engine compartment if I forgot to pull the spark plugs.

@EZ-D-FIANT Жыл бұрын

I've never been so confused.....🥴

@yoube449 Жыл бұрын

Some of those isuzu come with the stretch belt too.

@catsaregovernmentspies Жыл бұрын

Legacy auto routinely sells cars at low margin with the intention of making that profit on parts and services.

@user-fu4ti8nn9j Жыл бұрын

That s*** ain't going to work too long the old way does the eagles computers about to be gone imagine 1930

@markbrynteson5141 Жыл бұрын

I will try that on my 2012 Camaro SS

@ypcomchic Жыл бұрын

I have a old gmc and I can put the belt on without doing any of that stuff. It has a tensioner which assists putting it on. So new cars no longer have tensioners?

@50thgen2gtmustang4 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@RogueZebra83 Жыл бұрын

Mate I worked for Ford and I hate those belts especially the double crank ones I’ve damaged a few belts in my time unfortunately but that is genius idea you deserve to be lying on a beach with tones of money for this idea getting margaritas and bjs all day long 😎

@tyronnfields7945 Жыл бұрын

Chevy is tripping

@jonboatmorava9115 Жыл бұрын

So new GM didn't have belt tensioner? Boy the planned obsolescence is getting strong

@inspirehealthandhope8612 11 ай бұрын

A Pry bar works fine

@sulblazer Жыл бұрын

Would have been nice to actually see a demonstration of what you're talking about.

@emeterioarredondo8755 Жыл бұрын

I have always used a screwdriver but I struggle a lot. Thank you for sharing this method.

@NutsandBoltswithTone Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome

@truspirit1925 Жыл бұрын

Why can't manufacturers just stop fooling around with s*^!

@fuckthepopo5406 Жыл бұрын

Buying anything GM was your first mistake. 👍🏻😉🇺🇸

@caveman4598 Жыл бұрын

And I’ll bet the welsh plug is at the back of the engine

@stefanmohler2994 10 ай бұрын

I did this but I just hand cranked the pulley.

@richardcruz102 Жыл бұрын

This sounds like a colossal pain in the ass !

@mikeonusko6050 Жыл бұрын

You don't turn it over, you turn the ignition on and off rapidly to jump it on.

@mattrondeau7466 Жыл бұрын

That's called turning it over.

@MarioSanchez-os3fv Жыл бұрын

"most newer vehicles" i've littery only every had one POS vehicle repair that had stretch belt.

@NutsandBoltswithTone Жыл бұрын

Well you will, more and more are using them

@markchidester6239 Жыл бұрын

What is the purpose of the stretch belt? I'll pay a few dollars more for a tensioner pulley

@phillipthethird42 Жыл бұрын

Is this the GM 3800 ?

@nitrous07me Жыл бұрын

If the pulleys are wet the zip tie trick doesn’t really work

@rickl.7084 Жыл бұрын

What is he on about? I just install the belt. It just works.

@mr.mckinnon5680 Жыл бұрын

You know what else you don't need on that engine? An air conditioning compressor. They just rob power and create another unnecessary expense. Standard on all great mistake corporation cars and trucks.