Awesome! Quick links! I think Im going to do some separate videos that just have one type of string but all cut together. That way, you can mix and match whatever strings you want to A/B in separate browser tabs.
@AnimeMomentus4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@anyday822 жыл бұрын
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@HiHello-vc4tx2 жыл бұрын
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@toneman3354 жыл бұрын
It's subtle but the phosphor bronze has a tonal quality that sounds "better/fuller" to me.
@95awesomenes4 жыл бұрын
toneman335 sounds more natural and vintage almost.
@stephenbeard47474 жыл бұрын
Depends what you'd be playing really. Frustratingly I prefer the fullness of the chords on phosphor but the clarity when picking on the 80/20. I write a lot of songs that mix finger picking and chords so it's a tough choice!
@RoloTomasie4 жыл бұрын
I prefered the clarity of the 80/20s, but you're right about it sounding "stringier" and "less woody" than the phosphor bronze. To my ear the phosphor bronze strings almost gave your guitar a mahogany- like tone; woodier and drier. Great video. Good info and productions values.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
RoloTomasie yea totally, I like the earthy tone more.
@yukichanchubbycanva52152 жыл бұрын
Hihi so I am using a mahogany top .So which is better recommendation ya ? My preference is much bass .thanks for Ur reply
@abslenchar23473 жыл бұрын
so far the best reviewer on KZfaq, straight to the point and cover everything. Thank you so much, I hope we will see more video from you
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
You rock!
@etsat14 жыл бұрын
My 2 cents: compare 2:58 with 3:18 and pay attention to the E-1st string. 80/20 is fully defined whereas phosphor bronze shakes like if it's trying to find the right tone. For tecnhincal stuff my advice is 80/20 but for ambiance the phosphor bronze. The "ideal" probably would be to pick the 3 highest frequency strings from the 80/20 and the 3 lowest frequency strings from the phosphor bronze.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting insight.
@gersondavidcruz50243 жыл бұрын
yes 80/20 more accurate!
@michaelkeene69592 жыл бұрын
This comment has very good attention to detail. I was thinking this too. I actually like to 80/20 for arpeggio and single notes (finger style) but overall rhythm and strumming sound great in the phosphor bronze
@ZachariahRichardson2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to make this, you did a great job and made a great comparison. I would simply suggest going up a gauge to at least 12's, which are factory spec'd for your guitar. The thin custom lights are hurting the tone of both sets, and there is a fair amount of fret rattle going on there.
@JTravlos2 жыл бұрын
I actually agree but I just like the feel of the custom lights. I know its only a slight difference but the tone tradeoff is worth it for me especially as mainly a bedroom player now. At this point, I am just trying to limit and obstacle between me picking up the guitar. thanks for watching! -Jeremy
@jimmy563410 ай бұрын
The biggest difference is that when 80-20’s are broken in, they work on certain guitars better than PB’s namely Gibsons. Listen at 2:50 for the arpeggio…it ain’t even close…80-20’s are killer.
@shred5 Жыл бұрын
From experience, phosphor bronze strings will often have that woody sound as in this demo. But on other guitars they may just sound thin.
@thrithree4 жыл бұрын
Wow! this is great! I was looking to compare these two elixer string types for my Taylor 816ce DLX. Your comprehensive explanation and demo are perfect. Very professional and great playing as well. Bravo!
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@thrithree4 жыл бұрын
J.Travlos I just subscribed, your welcome.
@e4glz19_2 жыл бұрын
i like the phosphor strings sounds, it feels more woody sound. btw thanks for making these comparison video🙏❤️ i will subscribe 👍
@JTravlos2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ShawnBrockMusic3 жыл бұрын
I have used both for years, and choose depending on the guitar in question.
@bweird853 жыл бұрын
For instance, Martin naturally has a pronounced low-tone while Taylor has a brighter high-end. The person could either get strings to brighten the low of a Martin or make the low-end more pronounced. Likewise with Taylor; make it even brighter, or use a string to bring out the low-end more. It really just depends on your taste and the style of music you play.
@bweird853 жыл бұрын
I play a lot of rythym and have a Taylor. I like a ballance so I use the 80/20 to bring out the low-end more while having the natural highs of the Taylor.
@jaynosowsky97084 жыл бұрын
80/20 for the win easily!!!! Sounds more natural.
@gordeev67814 жыл бұрын
Man I wish you have much more subscribers cause you made a great job here. It’s a good day to start. A specially when the Guitar center has been reopened for a curb pick up. Cheers
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Spread the Word!
@R.W.S.3 жыл бұрын
I usually just bounce between the two tbh. I mean, the phosphor strings are better for strumming and the 80/20's for picking, but both sound good on my Washburn, it's just that the 80/20's have a much lighter and "stringier" feel whereas the Phosphors have a deeper, richer tone to them.
@tb12353 жыл бұрын
Nice, which Washburn do you have? I just bought a Washburn wcg55ce to replace my 12 year old Martin DCX1E (and I've wanted an all Koa guitar for quite some time). It has EB Earthwood 80/20s I had the shop throw on it (for free since the original D'addario strings were pretty rusty). Not completely sold on the sound (though it sounds really good) so I bought some Elixir Phosphor Bronze strings to have them replaced with when I bring it in for a tune up service and will put the EBs on the Martin since it needs new strings at this point anyway. Fingers crossed!
@crisasuncion69192 жыл бұрын
I have two Washburn D10SCE one made in China, the other in Indonesia (looks the same everywhere except the sides and back are a bit darker in color on the China model, i believe they have the same Mahogany). I've put same gauge strings on both - China had the nanoweb 80/20, Indonesia had the PB. The 80/20 had more bass and warmer than the PB. The PB was brighter and I've noticed softer volume when played. Both were compared playing straight (not connected to amp).
@snuffyballparks65012 жыл бұрын
Tried both. My guitar is a 2008 Martin D-28 Marquis (EIRW w/Adirondack Top). I prefer the unique bass whump a Martin has compared to other dreads. The Elixir Phosphor Bronze Nanoweb 13-56 are the best sounding strings I've ever put on my guitar... to me. Much prefer the full sounding tone of the Phosphor Bronze over the brighter 80/20 strings. Each to their own. And as to the D-28 Marquis... WOW, what a great tone it has. I nearly went with a D-28 Authentic, but I wanted the adjustable truss rod, wider string spacing at the saddle (2 5/16") and the Authentic was a good deal more expensive. The bridge on my guitar was coming loose. Had it taken off and re-glued with hide glue. It seems to have made the tone even better, but that could well be just wishful thinking. The neck on the Marquis is a bit chunky but I really love it now. Just a truly great guitar, but now discontinued by Martin. The only other dread I'd consider is a Mandolin Brothers Special-ordered Martin D-41 Custom Turbo (1/4" scalloped bracing). Very hard to find.
@JTravlos2 жыл бұрын
I really like the heavier gauges too. Its just...my fingers dont...
@Sofia-vu5sx4 жыл бұрын
Your channel is underrated! Such a quality video here, keep it up!
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, hitting like and subscribing is the best way to help the channel. Thanks for checking out the video!
@Marley9998883 жыл бұрын
There is absolutely no substitute for trying each of them both on the exact guitar in question.I have 2 Yamaha Fg830's...same colour...same specs...same year of manufacture and one sounds awesome with 80/20 the other like total garbage.I put Phosphor Bronze on the garbage one and it's my favourite guitar by far now.Assuming both would benefit from the Phosphor Bronze change I eventually changed the 80/20 on the other Fg to Phosphor B...lifeless and shit.The moral here is you must see what works best with each instrument regardless of what you THINK will work.Test it with cheap Martin strings of each flavour then buy the Elixir when you know.
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
This might be my favorite comment of all time. Sums up everything so well. A lot of people ask me what strings to buy and I always say try both out. Im just some dude who made a video lol. Nice insight Rob, appreciate it.
@robertahli37382 жыл бұрын
I ve got yamaha fg800..got custom light phosphor bronze on now sounds kinda fantastic..i had i think 12 gauge of somekind..lost a lot of volume after change..very slick playing but maybe should try 12 gauge again but 80/20...
@jordannash1534 жыл бұрын
I can see why people don't like the phosphor strings, but to me, they seem to include more tone in each strum. It has a kind of sophisticated depth to the sound. A little bit more raw than the 80/20s.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I know it's weird to say but with phosphor I hear more wood and with 80/20 I hear more string. That make sense?
@mirvuuson Жыл бұрын
So basically, if you have a really extravagant guitar and you want to bring out the feel of the guitars sound and resonance, you want the phosphor, but for any old guitar the 80/20s are a good all arounder. If I'm understanding this right?
@mdavis27034 жыл бұрын
I have to use Elixers because uncoated strings will go dull within hours for me. I've tried both of these and the 80/20 nanoweb 11-52 sound best on my Seagull S6. The phosphorus sound ok but I prefer the slightly scooped sound of the 80/20s. Plus they seem to have slightly less tension.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Also I really like that gauge size.
@cs36343 жыл бұрын
I use the PB on almost everything. I will say that it brightens up your guitar. If you have a BRIGHT guitar, dont use these. It will make it too bright.
@genusmecua4 жыл бұрын
Phosphor: Strumming, rhythm, solo artist advantage 80/20: Percussive, fingerstyle, plucking advantage
@Wazzup14583 жыл бұрын
What do you think wich size is the best for fingerstyle?
@Izzurd3 жыл бұрын
@@Wazzup1458 10
@kenjisan55203 жыл бұрын
can a gauge 12 ,80/20 bronze be good for Fingerstyle ???
@genusmecua3 жыл бұрын
@@kenjisan5520 Yes bro, but I prefer phosphor bronze because it sounds more natural than 80/20 bronze
@genusmecua3 жыл бұрын
@@Wazzup1458 For me, gauge 10 is the best for fingerstyle. But your volume is not that loud. Currently I tried a gauge 12 phosphor bronze elixir and I loved it.
@MikeFloutier3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I’ve just ordered a set of 80/20’s to try out on my guitar as I’ve always used 92/8’s. Definitely sounds like theirs more harmonic content with the PB, almost more like a 12 string compared to Bronze
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
Nice, let us know what you think.
@teemoleague9075 жыл бұрын
80 20 for picking and slaping. bronze for strumming
@JTravlos5 жыл бұрын
That could be a good rule of thumb.
@Nullllus5 жыл бұрын
Aw hell naw! Bronze has adip in the mids - 80/20 all the way.
@teemoleague9074 жыл бұрын
@@Nullllus nah, Im a singer so i will be strumming 80 percent of the time. I think the phosphor helps the sound man better . In strumming, 80/20 seems to get lost with electric lead and keyboard player. On another note, Makes my 400 dollar guitar sound like a taylor... if you like that gibson acoustic sound then go with the 80/20. I am more of a taylor type.
@gimpyjwilliams3 жыл бұрын
@@Nullllus pb has a dip in the mids not the 80 20 lol
@jasonstallworth2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the 80/20s. Those sound a little warmer. Great comparison. I've been using Elixirs for well over a decade now.
@JTravlos2 жыл бұрын
I still use elixirs but I have been liking Daddario Xs' a lot too.
@sharifahkamilia4484 жыл бұрын
I use 80/20 the sounds soo loud and Bright but i prefer to phosphor
@nellatrab2 жыл бұрын
Liking the 80/20s ditto on upping the gauge!
@ojie2852 ай бұрын
Excellent comparison! I'm going for Phosphor Bronze. Balanced sound. The lows and mids are just enough, and the highs are not too loud and overpowering.
@urodzinymirona5 жыл бұрын
appreciate this review. really. wish there was more alike
@JTravlos5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I have some more videos coming out soon! Let me know if you want any specific strings compared/ reviewed. Id love to get some more input on what you guys want. Thanks Again!
@josephfriedrich97924 жыл бұрын
I dunno. I had a taylor that I used phosphor on and loved it switched to 80/20 and hated it. Conversely because of that, I strung up my humming birds with 80/20 and hated it, and switched over to phosphor. Guitars matter on tone.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Even similar body shapes by different manufactures sound drastically different. I've learned more recently that it is a little less about tone wood and more about the bracing. Moral of the story is to keep experimenting. What do you have to lose? 15 bux for a pack of strings?
@aaronslingerland49243 жыл бұрын
Think I'm gonna switch on my taylor 110e to pb always been bronze in past for past 13 years lol.
@ksaint20122 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos To some 15 bux is money
@musicbymicah11 ай бұрын
I really appreciate this demo! I think a more fair comparison would be a dreadnought than a concert/parlor guitar. The mids are definitely more prominent with less bottom end on your instrument. The concert/rosewood body is probably far less flattering to demonstrate 80/20 bronze. The boom of 80/20 is more apparent on a dreadnought body.
@JTravlos11 ай бұрын
totally
@rafalmarkiewicz6313 Жыл бұрын
It would be great if you added a comparison of both strings after let’s say 50 hours of playing, how much they differ from the brand new ones, cheers
@JorgeParfum4 жыл бұрын
Buen video, excelente review, cool review. I usually use the phosphor bronze but I'm going to try the 80/20 next week. Thanks for the video. Cheers from Venezuela.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And thanks for subscribing!
@deadmanwalking19305 минут бұрын
Nice playing. I have a faith venus. Which one of these strings would suit it ? Its a fairly bright guitar, so thinking phosphor but what do you think?
@tele-dude-t8s8 ай бұрын
No matter your string preference, with this video YOU CAN DECIDE! The video is well thought out and is the best tool for deciding between these strings. Not only are the strings on the SAME guitar, but a great variety of performing styles! Thanks so much. My mind is made up!
@JTravlos8 ай бұрын
thanks!
@transcendenttv3 жыл бұрын
What i found most interesting is in the comments below there is absolutely NO consensus. And it's not like "some people prefer one, and other people prefer the other..." Everyone is saying they prefer one or the other for the SAME reasons! In other words, no one can tell the difference. It's really amazing. For some, one is too bright. For others, the other one is too bright. It's pretty fascinating. Personally I really couldnt tell the difference until you started strumming. I'm a PB player pretty much 100% of the time. About to put my first set of 80/20s on a guitar because this one sounds much more dull and flat than I expected.... So we'll see.... Great video btw. Thanks for posting.
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yea, I always think the main take a way is to just try them all out yourselves. A lot of people look to these videos to save them money but since this is such a subjective thing I say just try as many different types of strings as possible. Thanks for watching!
@CarlosNavarro-cp9go4 жыл бұрын
80/20s have a volume more equally balanced across all strings......the bronze ones make their 2 thicker strings louder and more bassy.....other than that they are both good.........for classical, flamenco bronze....for else 80/20s......then again, all guitars are not made equal.
@235buz4 жыл бұрын
I personally like the 80/20's, but keep in mind it has a lot to do with the guitar you're playing too. One size does not fit all.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
100%. And think of the guitar's bracing as well. I used to think it was a tonewood thing but now I think tonewood is only a small percentage of tone.
@hkguitar19843 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos I agree, Bracing can greatly impact the guitar's overall performance. I've an old Martin JC-16 KWS that is ridiculously loud and boomy, as such I'm able to get away with lighter gauge Elixir 80/20s. Great review. From time to time I always check these types of string reviews to see if maybe I should try something new. In this case you've reaffirmed my choice of sticking with my current Elixir Nanoweb 80/20 lights. Thank You
@michaelussher862 жыл бұрын
Which was louder? Without the volume adjustment which was louder/quieter?
@JTravlos2 жыл бұрын
Oh I dont even remember. I dont think any one in particular stood out.
@michaelussher862 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos Thanks for reply. In the video you said the volumes had been adjusted so it wasn't a factor. It made me wonder. Thanks for the great videos.
@nothingEvil1014 жыл бұрын
everyones always saying 80/20 are brighter, but for me it's the complete opposite. I like the 80/20 more because they are much more balanced and oh so sweet sounding to my ears. Phosphor bronze is just plinky plonk to me
@Life-of-Bluegrass_Music4 жыл бұрын
Are you sure it isn't your guitar? That is lanky plonk
@nothingEvil1014 жыл бұрын
Mathews Triax Well given that my Taylor sounds fantastic with Martin 80/20 bronze I don‘t think it is. Could be a matter of matching guitar to strings of course, or just my personal thing.
@Life-of-Bluegrass_Music4 жыл бұрын
Lol Taylor that is a matter of opinion.
@finishim1004 жыл бұрын
I agree with you and I always take 80/20. But it can also depend on the guitar sometimes.
@nothingEvil1014 жыл бұрын
@@Life-of-Bluegrass_Music What are you trying to achieve here? I like my Taylor, and it is not plinky plonky with the right strings, FOR ME. What is your problem?
@vs_8303 жыл бұрын
They like phosphor for the bass sound, but it usually suits to the bassless guitars - made of mahogany or something. Bronse one is good for something rosewood like guitars. If you put phosphor on rosewood the middles will disappear.
@dionrenaldy52693 жыл бұрын
yes, agree
@puppyofwrath2 жыл бұрын
I wish they only had one kind of string. I still don't even know if I prefer poly or nano web. I liked them both. Now I have to decide this?! I'm tired of making decisions and second guessing if I made the right choice.
@JTravlos2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way sometimes!
@glisteningkabana81545 жыл бұрын
Superb demo! Thank you.
@JTravlos5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chesslovers78073 жыл бұрын
Phosphor bronze.. I use that.. But in review.. My comment is... Phosphor B bright and clear While 80/20 mild and soft.. Thats why i choose the phosphor bronze..
@IRequireMedication Жыл бұрын
We have a guy doing haiku over here
@eewankhoo49443 жыл бұрын
I know what i would like on my guitars ........... your playing skills!!
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@caseytebo71474 жыл бұрын
Great video dude!
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out! I have some other good Elixir ones too.
@Knosferatu4 жыл бұрын
Phosphor Bronze. No squeaks, thanks Elixir.
@nabeelchohan38004 ай бұрын
Which 1 is better for fingerstyle and which 1 is for rhythms, and which will last longer ?
@michael_caz_nyc3 жыл бұрын
Phosphor Bronze sound thinner. Perhaps they Sound better on a Martin? I currently play a Taylor, & use the Elixir 80/20 ( 12"s ) on my 414ce-R - they sound great, but are getting too Expensive. Price keeps going-up. Great comparison. Very fair. Enjoyed it.
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
The price does keep going up. I like the coating though however I just used "fast fret" and I bet you could get cheaper strings and just use that stuff on it to keep them slick.
@michael_caz_nyc3 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos Thanks for the input. I am Hoping another company will develop-something to Compete with Elixir - so they will "Tone-down" the Price Gouging. It's only a matter-of-time.
@mirvuuson Жыл бұрын
Personally liked the phosphors on everything except the fingersyle. Excellent playing!
@christianmarloncortazar82135 жыл бұрын
....80/20 sounds accurate 👍
@kirubelsolomon86624 жыл бұрын
I like this showdown a lot. It is straight forward and informative. Is it me or the phosphor bronze strings hard to play? And are you using a hard or light strings? I am a beginner😶
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I made this video to touch on the playability of the strings. These strings are called "custom light" so they are fairly thin strings therefore the tension feels lighter. They are easier to play than most. But, if you wanted some really easy strings to play you can get them in "extra light" This video explains all that. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nrama5eYss_Hdas.html With that being said both of the strings in the showdown are "custom lights" so they are equal in playability. But, sometimes I dont play one example as well as the other so it gives the impression that one might be easier :) Hope that helps!
@kirubelsolomon86624 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos Thank you for your reply
@user-ce3vx9zk1f Жыл бұрын
The 80/20 sound more expensive and balanced to my ear, the phosphor bronze sound a little too bright but empty.
@TheNavaTribe3 жыл бұрын
80/20 for sure!
@garretthardy1943 жыл бұрын
Great Video...well done and thank you.
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@asdaven1 Жыл бұрын
Phosphor bronze sounds more buzzy than 80/20. Coated 80/20 should help out with the downside of the short longevity right? ....also another comparison could be nickel strings like heavier gauge electric guitar strings...some people have actually had sucess with that to the point I might try a electric set of 12s or 13s. I like the feel of electric strings over accoustic.
@kyrylozaplotynskyi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for review!
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
glad you liked it!
@taffyfusilier4 жыл бұрын
The fret board on that guitar is stunning.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
There is an interesting story...So you normally see all black fretboards on acoustic guitars right? Well, that wood is called ebony but it when you chop down an ebony tree it doesnt always provide all black wood. Most of the time the wood has streaks in it like mine. It used to be considered inferior but public perception is changing and it is way more sustainable. Before, if the wood was streaked the entire tree would just be destroyed because it didnt have the desired look. When you see this fretboard it is a great thing for sustainability. Kudos to Bob Taylor at taylor guitars.
@giorassiccuriosity1796 Жыл бұрын
I also admire all the different granings and colors- just add more character. Reminds me of a nice Koa guitars
@gabrielmireles1067 Жыл бұрын
That fretboard is gorgeous
@JTravlos Жыл бұрын
Oh yea I like it. In the old days the tree this fretboard came from would have been thrown away. Sustainable and beautiful. Awesomeness!
@jackconnor3864 жыл бұрын
Hi, great video ! Do both set of strings have the same colour? So I can check if I’ve been given a fake pack of elixirs ? Thanks
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
the 80/20s I think are more yellow and the phosphor bronze are more brown/copper if I remember correctly.
@suari79034 ай бұрын
Nice video! Thank you for sharing. 🙂 what type of the elixir strings would you recoomend for my APX 500II Acoustic Yamaha? Would it be Bronze 80/20? I cannot jump to conclusions yet.. your opinion would be pretty much appreciated 😊
@JTravlos4 ай бұрын
Generally speaking I really like phosphor bronze so maybe give those a try first?
@ozkanozi82813 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Thanks a lot.
@mihirvinzuda55683 жыл бұрын
Which one do you prefer personally...??
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
phosphor bronze all the way. I didnt like the 80/20s much. At least on my guitar.
@mihirvinzuda55683 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos ayyyy... I use the same bro...🤜🏻🤛🏻
@antoniavomvas98263 жыл бұрын
This is just what I was looking for!
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@topherdaniel62735 жыл бұрын
Right now I got a breedlove concerto guitar, and a taylor 414ce . The 80/20 sounds better on my taylor , and the phosphor better on my breedlove . It crazy how the tune of the different types wood makes a difference in the string materials. Can you make a video on cedar tops vs spruce tops ?
@JTravlos5 жыл бұрын
Totally, Ive heard a lot of back and forth and what contributes to the tone of the guitar. Definitely "tone"woods, but I hear that the way the guitar is braced determines the tone too. I guess it determines how much the top and sides actually vibrate. Gotta get my hands on a cedar top now...
@billsmith30424 жыл бұрын
phosphor makes sound too tinny and hollow
@iseeicegajendra12914 жыл бұрын
Does this mean the harmonics will be brighter and more loud in 80/20 because when I have tried the phosphor, I cannot really hear the harmonics
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Oh, good question. I actually dont know.
@akimlucario5 жыл бұрын
May i know what are the differences between elixir custom light(11|52) and elixir light(11|53) type? Which one is the thinnest? Btw im the first one who comment 😬
@JTravlos5 жыл бұрын
The first minute of this video should answer your question. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nrama5eYss_Hdas.html I made this video comparing all the different gauge types. Elixir has many different gauge types, more-so than any other string manufacturer. Thanks for asking!
@barakshulman Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, so do you have a preference? And what kind of pick were you using?
@JTravlos Жыл бұрын
It was a medium fender perloid pick. I prefer the Phosphor Bronze on my guitar. However I have a GS mini (mohogany) that I think the 80/20s sound better on.
@barakshulman Жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos thank you!
@nellatrab2 жыл бұрын
My deal is I use PB on rosewood guitars and 80/20's on Mahogany...BTW Elixir are the longest lasting stings on the planet, great customer service and quality.
@jlsg52714 жыл бұрын
What is better string for dreadnought size guitar? a phospor or 80/20?
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
I personally like Phosphor myself but I think its pretty subjective. It is pretty much opinion. Try the Phosphor and see if you like them. Then maybe the next time try the 80/20s. Its good to know what they both sound like on your instrument.
@fatimaWr24 жыл бұрын
Why do you have so little subscribers? You play so well.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Havn't caught the youtube algorithm yet...
@Mr.Pink17764 жыл бұрын
Phosphor bronze seemed louder, probably because is has a slightly higher string tension.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Not so sure about that, they are the same guages. BUT, I probably do not play them exactly the same way and although I try to get it close I bet some samples just sound louder. I know the Arpeggio sample always sounds wayyy louder than the rest.
@gimpyjwilliams3 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos its actually true that pb strings have a bit more tension and are slightly stiffer.........slightly thicker too...... can you notice that difference or not really?
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
@@gimpyjwilliams I did not notice that. The strings were the same gauge at least that is what was advertised. They should be the same thickness at least. I didn't notice anything with tension either. To me, they felt the same. Let me know if you find any sources supporting that theory, I'd love to see it and learn more.
@gimpyjwilliams3 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos tension in pb 4 lbs tighter than 80/20 so not a huge difference but i notice it, also the phosphor wrap is a tad thicker than the bronze which i notice too lol www.elixirstrings.com/support/string-tension-for-tuning-guitar
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
@@gimpyjwilliams Thanks so much for this. This is so interesting. Did you see the tension on the "heavy 12 string" sets? Crazy high! I had no idea this was on elixirs website.
@peterseville2 жыл бұрын
Just an amazing explanation.
@JTravlos2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dennissamuelmathews74934 жыл бұрын
I have a Fender CD 140 SCE. Which one will be better.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
I always say try the phosphor bronze first. I like them more.
@731-j9y7 ай бұрын
I love the riffs and been trying to play them... with mixed results as cant tell the fingerings .. would love a little video showing these cool things if possible?.... but if not...whats the fretting of the chord @2:06... im getting close with an Am barre chord at the 7th....im guessing its 0-7-9-8-0-9?
@JTravlos7 ай бұрын
try 0-7-9-0-8-0. basically an Em with a bunch of open strings.
@angusdevine704511 ай бұрын
I have a problem with the nano Web, as my fingers slide off them.
@ratuldevel49854 жыл бұрын
Which one would be suitable for Cort SFX Open Pore? Please reply
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
I think phosphor bronze sound better. So that would be my vote.
@iranmendoza43773 жыл бұрын
Phosphor bronze last longer then bronze
@juansantana96783 жыл бұрын
For strumming the phosphere, fingerpicking 80/20 .
@oryzylapi77497 ай бұрын
Hi, I can’t understand which strings are best for a bright guitar. Bronze or phosphor bronze? And also elixir or dadario xs for a bright guitar?
@JTravlos7 ай бұрын
phosphor bronze of any brand will tame an already bright guitar.
@dropedleaflets7154 жыл бұрын
Hey Bro....i am confused.... i want a Crunchy sound in strumming ...it really close...do you help me out...which one i go for?
@aaronslingerland49243 жыл бұрын
Usually a custom light nano 20/80 kinda guy but I've just recently come from a tanglewood to a new taylor 110e and I put on my exfir custom light 20/80 nano and honestly it just doesnt go well with this guitar. So I've gone for HD light, PB Nano which are coming in delivery. Worked out the most expensive also.
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
Totally depends on the guitar. I forget if I still tell people that I use a taylor 812ce in my videos but it definitely makes a difference.
@Imjaywms3 жыл бұрын
Hey J, what size pick did you use to strum the phosphor bronze? What gauge pick?
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
I use fender perloid mediums for all examples with a pick.
@adrean888 Жыл бұрын
what about dean markley blue steel strings??
@TazoAmaral2 жыл бұрын
But about the volume adjustment... what strings sound more loud? If it happens. Or the volume adjustments it's just because of record differences?
@JTravlos2 жыл бұрын
This is a good question. The 80/20s recorded very bright an it had a lot of transients/ spikes in the audio wave form. Those spikes in the waveform are very loud but they are so fast we dont really perceive them as general loudness. This was most apparent in the funk example. The 80/20s accentuated the pick attack moreso than the actual chords of the song. When I normalize the audio to 0db, only the spikes in the audio get raised but most of the time the 80/20s wouldnt go any higher because the spikes in the audio waveform were already as loud as my software would let it before it distorted or clipped. The phosphor bronze didnt have these spikes so when I normalized that audio to 0db more of the "general" volume was raised. So in short, the 80/20s were technically louder but the phosphor bronze might have sounded louder/fuller. It all sounds kind of complicated but maybe check out some youtube videos on normalization. It is much easier to understand visually.
@RikuJalovaara Жыл бұрын
Hi! Which ones are lighter to play?
@JTravlos Жыл бұрын
Both sets come in all the same gauge sizes. So as long as you get a lighter gauge size then they should feel the same.
@jamesmatthewbalgua9178Күн бұрын
May I know what guitar did you use?
@JTravlosКүн бұрын
Yea it was a taylor 812ce.
@jamesmatthewbalgua9178Күн бұрын
@@JTravlos that's a quick response. Thanks alot. That's why the sound is bright it's a Taylor.
@kelvinchan81534 жыл бұрын
After few days that I used 80/20 ,I feel like this strings even worse than daddario exp16 (more cheaper than this). Because I feel like the strings are always not in tone and it’s too bright n sharp to cause I don’t feel any body while I’m playing. But I think this strings will be great for strumming ! The strings handle well and smooth ! I haven’t try phosphor bronze yet but I think that one will be nicer than this especially for finger style player. I’m not a professional I’m just having my opinion after I tried and 80/20 strings are actually great too. Ps..In my way, I like the smooth of the strings but I don’t like the sound of the strings.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. I like the Elixir Phosphor Bronze a lot better. Im curious to see if you end up liking those better too. The phosphor bronze bring out better qualities from my acoustic.
@OfficialaMed4 жыл бұрын
very helpful, Thank you..
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Subscribe if you haven't already. I have some more string demos coming down the pipeline soon.
@eleinad59Ай бұрын
For me 80/20 is Smoother and less volume!..the Bronze more volume and fat sound and for sure Cut more the mix!…in This video i prefer the 80/20!
@sauravgupta74154 жыл бұрын
I got Martin 000-16e, Please suggest me?
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
I think Elixir Phosphor Bronze in custom light (.11-.52) could sound good. They are my favorite strings so maybe start from there. If anyone else wants to chime in that would be great too.
@zseeley2 жыл бұрын
Because of the different metals used, for the same gauge, is there a difference is string tension?
@JTravlos2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I didnt notice anything, but maybe if you hooked it up to some special caliper there might be? To my fingers...they felt the same.
@eriano_3 жыл бұрын
Which do you feel will pair better with a Martin 000RS1 full sapele guitar? The 80/20’s or PB’s? Appreciate your response :)
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
Total opinion here...But I like the PBs better.
@sanjanab213 жыл бұрын
what type & gauge would you recommend for a basic beginner's yamaha fd01s? ive just been using its default strings ("light" according to the seller but "medium" according the reviewers) for the year that i've been playing. i play fingerstyle with a few percussive elements most often. thanks :) super helpful video by the way!
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
To me, it's more of what feels the best and less about tone. I like light strings. Actually elixir has a gauge called "custom light" which I like a lot. They are really easy to play and I like the tone of them. But it would be good for you to experiment with different sizes to see which ones are best for you.
@sanjanab213 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos thank you so much for your reply, that helps a lot - I’ll look into the custom light ones. one last quick question - do they sound significantly quieter than the light and medium strings?
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
@@sanjanab21 I think the difference between volume is pretty minimal. That being said, I think the difference between the lightest gauge and the thickest gauge is noticeable. But, without a direct comparison I dont think you will be missing out.
@sanjanab213 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos ohh ok thanks so much! that’s super helpful
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
@@sanjanab21 Glad to help. I made this video a while ago which may be helpful too. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nrama5eYss_Hdas.html
@liberty55653 жыл бұрын
Dunno if it's the editing or just YT, but even with my studio headphones there's virtually no bass. Regardless, my 000 is really picky and needs a brighter string, only 80/20's or String Joy's give the tone I want. The new D'adario XS strings (phosphor bronze) were horrible fresh, but after a day had a great sound, but died off couple of days. I'm not a fan of any particular brands, I just use what brings the guitar to life. Love the Martin Retro's on the 000 and the Dread, nice tone. I've used every brand, but they change depending on the guitar. The Dread is Rosewood & spruce while the 000 is all Mahogany. When I buy a new acoustic (rarely) I grab a set of of each brand of typically good strings and weed out the losers. Some guitars are picky, bracing & wood along with size makes a massive difference. String Joy's were a real surprise, very similar to 80/20 Elixir's I think they cost more than Elixir's, but they're certainly top tier. Well worth a try.
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
Good to know about the stringjoys. I get ads all the time for them. Ill get a pack soon and do a showdown.
@nitiphanAIDS3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for great comparison. May I ask you, which one you like and why?
@JTravlos3 жыл бұрын
I tend to like the phosphor bronze better. It has a warmer sound. I always thought 80/20s sound to "metalic". Maybe that means too bright for my ears. My guitar is kind of bright anyways so I think the Phosphor Bronze tame it better.
@nitiphanAIDS3 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos thank you
@akuilaopo3231 Жыл бұрын
I got Tanglewood TFEA cedar top solid, which one should i pick?
@JTravlos Жыл бұрын
try them both! But maybe go with the 80/20s first?
@andersondamasceno84434 жыл бұрын
I usually use 80/20. Today I bought the Phosphor Bronze... good choice?
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
O yea? What do you think of them?
@andersondamasceno84434 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos The Elixir are a amazing strings. 80/20 has a brilliant sound and I like that. Honestly, I never used Phosphor Bronze and I hope to have a good experience. (Sorry for my bad English, I'm Brazilian).
@lsubslimed4 жыл бұрын
Anderson Damasceno - any update?
@andersondamasceno84434 жыл бұрын
@@lsubslimed I didn't really notice any big differences. But it is important to say that Elixir is an excellent string.
@thenakedaliens4 жыл бұрын
I like 80/20 way better. I’ve tried to like the other one but it has funny overtones and unpleasant little harmonic stuff.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
What kind of acoustic do you have? I have a taylor and they tend to sound brighter. But, I bet a dreadnaught might have a darker/ warmer sound in which 80/20 would compliment it nicely. So many variables!
@alisonmuenzen27184 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos I have a Taylor gs mini Koa. Which strings do you think would sound better on it? It sounds a good deal different from your spruce. I'm new to strings and can't guess what a pair would sound like on my guitar. Thank you so much for the help!!!!!!☺️
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
@@alisonmuenzen2718 Hey Alison. First off, nice guitar! I think Koa is a darker sounding tone wood so maybe 80/20 might brighten it up a little bit. But I bet the phosphor bronze would sound good too. If it were me, I would go with "elixir phosphor bronze in custom light gauge size". If you think it sounds too dark then maybe get the 80/20s. Hey, if you do any of those suggestions report back! I wanna hear what you think.- Jeremy
@alisonmuenzen27184 жыл бұрын
@@JTravlos oh ok cool I didn't realize it was darker; just knew it was unique. It still has the original strings from when purchased 2 years ago 😬 I'm going to guitar center tonight, I will totally let you know what I pick and how it sounds!!!😇
@MarianoPerez4 жыл бұрын
Which do you think is best for finger picking? I mostly play classical guitar, so I'm basically finger picking all the time.
@JTravlos4 жыл бұрын
Classical guitars generally have lighter tension strings than steel string guitars. That being said I would either go with "light" or "custom lights". My favorite are "custom lights" becasue they are very easy to play and not as "smacky" as extra lights. I think both would serve you well but maybe buy a set of "custom lights" and if you wanted a tad bit more bottom end you could go up to "lights". Check out my other video that will be very applicable your question :kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nrama5eYss_Hdas.html