Join the crew on the footplate of Standard 4 steam locomotive No.75029 on a journey between Levisham and Goathland, North Yorkshire Moors Railway.
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@RandomThoughtChanger12 жыл бұрын
brewing some tea on the firebox? brilliant!
@MrSnappie11 жыл бұрын
I wish we had coal like that when I worked on the footplate of LMS in the 60s, that looks like they got it from B&Q. Thats why we had a coal pick. you could end up with a massive lump stuck in the tender door, it always happened at the worst possible moment like the bottom of a hill or when you had a heavy goods and you just start to build the fire.
@andrewthompson150911 жыл бұрын
Robert, you are absolutely right. In fact it is generally considered a sin to allow the safety valves to "blow off" as this is basically a waste of steam, or in other words a waste of expensive coal. Easier said than done though, because there is a time lag between the coal going onto the firebed and it then reaching a a point in it's combustion cycle when it starts to increase steam pressure. Anticipation of the locomotive workload is the key to accurate firing technique.
@mattseymour863710 жыл бұрын
Very good video, good to see a drivers/firemans eye view, also lovely engine on a great railway, im a member of the NYMR
@psycotria12 жыл бұрын
Great video! There certainly is a great deal of tweaking involved. It reminds me of the non-stop interplay between crew and machine required to move a Boeing 727 through the sky. Thanks for the effort.
@lokoiutfftty10 жыл бұрын
THE SOUND OF HER IS INCREDIBLE!!!!!
@alimmehmet11405 жыл бұрын
Not
@kb96815 жыл бұрын
Awesome way to film a cabride! Wide-angled clear and bright
@Gotthard6811 жыл бұрын
I'm swiss and have been volunteering on the Romney, Hythe and Dymchurch Railway for a few years now. Should pass out as a driver next year! So definitely worth it!
@7P4611515 жыл бұрын
fantastic vid, brilliant locomotive and i cant wait till i get to do that on the same railway
@Toqhy6 жыл бұрын
I love old trains
@edbedbonk489 жыл бұрын
Hi Kiwi , Ed here , met you on a cleaning turn in the summer. Good times
@krnlg9 жыл бұрын
Wow great video! :)
@struck2soon9 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Footage is a bit grainy, but you get a feel for what things are like on the footplate.
@ivanlemos30617 жыл бұрын
krnlg
@struck2soon13 жыл бұрын
It was a note for advising the area of line that was having repairs, and in effect the signalman was handing up a tempory speed restriction for that section of line.
@skvakagud11 жыл бұрын
ah that is cool! :) So I take it, that its still possible to sign up as a vaulenteer. :D And heres an early hurrah for ur drivers pass when u get it! =)
@thelastshermansp76956 жыл бұрын
She looks nice
@sadelsor5 жыл бұрын
In India they have a "pani walla" on the footplate just to make sure the water is supplied.
@struck2soon12 жыл бұрын
Mechanical stokers were a rare beast on any British locomotive, probably because the size of fire grate was not large compared to many North American locomotives. Anyway, it's enjoyable exercise! As for gloves: only needed for those that have just had a manicure.
@struck2soon14 жыл бұрын
The kit consists of: a bullet camera lens, (about 60mm long, 15mm dia) which is connected to a conventional camcorder residing in a small back-pack. The lens can be clipped onto the peak of a cap. Yes, those are the injectors I keep fiddling with; the brass wheel is the steam valve and the lever is the water valve.
@struck2soon14 жыл бұрын
Dwarfy, you only have to sign up at your nearest steam railway. They'll be pleased to see you!
@struck2soon15 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, but the firing needs work, and lots of it!
@struck2soon14 жыл бұрын
Haven't been up since May, been busy with all sorts of other stuff. But hoping to get back into it in November; not sure if I can remember how to hold a shovel!
@struck2soon12 жыл бұрын
@1995marines The coal supplied to steam railways is a specialist steam coal, so comes in a different graded size than the usual cheaper imported stuff that goes to power generating plants.
@73096std515 жыл бұрын
nice vid 5*
@austinniederjohn98139 жыл бұрын
so was this like a fireman for a day or do u work at this railroad?
@struck2soon14 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's my 'head-cam', which I mainly use for flyfishing filming. I was testing the equipment, and needed something appropriate to try it out on.
@TranspennineExp18510 жыл бұрын
I had my NYMR Shed Safety Briefing from Matin Lloyd.
@73096std515 жыл бұрын
i can rember when i did that in 2003 i was watching the fireman putting coal on and he let me have a go at firing. it on it was on the schools class repton that was when i was nine years old.
@mousefart6911 жыл бұрын
marty, we must reach 88 miles per hour, then your going BACK TO THE FUTURE!!!
@robertgift11 жыл бұрын
Could you save coal and pollution by regulating the boiler pressure by how much coal is shoveled in? I saw a locomotive blow off a lot of steam, so was the boiler being overfired for the workload?
@sadelsor5 жыл бұрын
Just testing the safety valve !!
@austinniederjohn981310 жыл бұрын
i wish I was that lucky to ride in the cab and shovel in the coal
@littlegiant1879414 жыл бұрын
how do you fit it on? is it strapped on, and what sort of camera is it also, those brass wheels you keep turning on the fireman's side, are they the injectors?
@marioburgess35267 жыл бұрын
when the old honsea line to hull in 1964
@littlegiant1879414 жыл бұрын
did you have a camera on your head or something?
@lovethakur74676 жыл бұрын
Nic
@struck2soon15 жыл бұрын
Due to the wide-angle of the lens, the sweat doesn't show. Believe me, it was there!
@struck2soon12 жыл бұрын
What, they're running those things on coal these days?
@struck2soon12 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am. That's not the only name I get called though, but the others are too rude to print.
@teddyriley25996 жыл бұрын
full ispeed going..full ispeed coming
@brackers514 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid Kiwi, hav'nt seen you up there in a while, how's the firing coming along? I hope to have my exam's next time im there. Tom (tall dark hair young cleaner, we did a NB turn together once)
@inkyscrolls51936 жыл бұрын
This is the oldest comment I have seen in a long time. Greetings from the future, if you're still out there. =D (How did the exam go?)
@struck2soon2 жыл бұрын
I knew you had left a comment on one of my old videos!
@1995marines12 жыл бұрын
the coal is Huge in Britain, in America it is not much smaller but in Chila it is like powder
@MrHappypandher6 жыл бұрын
old tren hard working
@struck2soon6 жыл бұрын
Pardeep Pandher ...hard work yes but also fun!
@skvakagud11 жыл бұрын
I know its 2 years since u made the comment, but u wrote u cud sign up at ur nearest steam railway.. Now what if u arent a british citizen? Would they still let you participate in running such an incredible machine, as any steamtrain is? :)
@sadelsor5 жыл бұрын
Need a left handed fireman, it seems !!
@struck2soon5 жыл бұрын
Yes Ed, it was about the only thing I had in my favour as I am naturally left handed...I would have made it look a lot worse otherwise!
@DanielIrwinProductions12 жыл бұрын
are you the one they call kiwi? :)
@anthonycraig59666 жыл бұрын
Yes of course and I'm mostly kidding just kidding it's a amazing actually just seems kinda over complicated I guess not for the era when it was built but today seems redundant
@TheJm1660112 жыл бұрын
Have they never heard of stokers or for that matter gloves? Have yet to see any crews using anything other than just a rag. I prefer a good pair of gauntlet gloves myself
@BillSikes.5 жыл бұрын
My God, what an awful job the fireman's got, this was only a 10min clip, it must of been back breaking on a London to Edinburgh trip, and then back again
@struck2soon5 жыл бұрын
strake750 Well, I would have said "challenging" rather than awful. It's actually very enjoyable trying to pit your skills against a living breathing machine. With an experienced fireman this would have looked a lot easier!
@austinniederjohn98139 жыл бұрын
is this in England Scotland or wales
@struck2soon9 жыл бұрын
It is England. North Yorkshire to be precise, on the North Yorkshire Moors Railway.
@chetan1410 Жыл бұрын
MCS
@chetan1410 Жыл бұрын
Mega Calculation of Sum
@1995marines12 жыл бұрын
i meant to write China
@cornholio43511 жыл бұрын
I prefer a rag, just a presonal preference, Gloves get in the way, don't have a good feel of the controls with them on....
@deeremeyer17536 жыл бұрын
You're an idiot if you think a "rag" is going to give you any protection from serious heat for long periods and even more of an idiot to think you have to have or will ever get a "feel" for MECHANICAL "CONTROLS" THAT ARE ONLY PROVIDING MECHANICAL ADVANTAGE TO OPERATE VALVES. Especially when as PRESSURES CHANGE THE EFFORT NEEDED TO OPERATE THE VALVES CHANGES. Which of course is why most "controls" are excessively "strong" so any change in pressure and required effort at the valve results in a far smaller change in "feel" at the controls. Those "old timers" are using rags because good, high-quality SYNTHETIC GLOVES for continuous exposure to high temps are difficult or impossible to find or afford over there. LEATHER GLOVES are a very poor choice for exposure to continuous heat. The leather literally dries out and gets stiff and "high heat" gloves like welding gloves have even shorter lives in those conditions than high-quality, fitted and tanned leather gloves do. Welding gloves are made cheap and big for easy "installation" and "removal" and to make them disposable and prevent guys from feeling stuck with them when they start getting stiff and dangerous. The amount of time these "professionals" spend fucking with the controls and making changes that will only require an additional 2 or 3 MORE changes as a result proves they don't have the slightest fucking idea what they're doing or are just making it look "good" for the camera. But I'm pretty sure its the formula. You sure as hell can't need to shove coal like a motherfucker for two minutes and then take a brake for give if you're actually "feeding the fire" correctly. Apparently these fools also don't get that as speed increases, so does the "volumetric efficiency" of the engine and LESS STEAM VOLUME (displayed as pressure when "confined" in the boiler) is required to maintain speed. Just like a regular car or truck needs more power to ACCELERATE to 60 mph than it takes to STAY THERE , so does a locomotive. The overall fuel consumption might be about the same on a lbs. per horsepower-hour basis, but less torque is being produced and over a shorter period of time so the "mileage" increases.
@Rallarbusen12 жыл бұрын
What kind of girly-man needs gloves for firing? Gloves for cleaning out slag and clinker is one thing but if you need gloves for firing you're doing it wrong.
@inkyscrolls51936 жыл бұрын
+Rallarbusen I can see _you've_ never fired on a loco smaller than an Austerity 0-6-0ST!
@maheed-ot3wj7 жыл бұрын
wweg
@struck2soon7 жыл бұрын
maheed 4290 Sorry, but what does wweg mean? Weird, Wacky English Geezer?
@michelleroberts54726 жыл бұрын
What a miserable excuse. For a steam whistle
@struck2soon6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, same as most British whistles. They all sound a bit pre-pubescent!
@deeremeyer17536 жыл бұрын
That sure is some odd-looking "coal" going into that firebox. It looks more like rocks coated with coal dust. I've never heard coal, which isn't all that dense when its pure, "ring" against a shovel like that. Rocks do, though. And do you not have crushers over there? I can't think of a worse fuel selection than what's in this video. And the idea that that crappy, heavy, inconsistenly sized and shaped "coal" is going to instantly burst into that hot "fireball" in the firebox is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure there's an oil or diesel fuel tank and some hidded plumbing somewhere in those allegedly "restored" and allegedly "British" locomotives. Coal in chunks just doesn't burn like that. It burns a lot like CHARCOAL IN AN OUTDOOR COOKING GRILLE. If there's boiling, roiling standing flame in the firebox from COAL, there's way too much coal in there and not nearly enough air. YELLOW FLAME IS NEVER HOT FLAME.
@charlieralph71936 жыл бұрын
Looks like some form of Hard coal too me, perfectly good for burning in the firebox, smokey stuff and very volatile. The lumps are all a similar size tbh just save the larger ones for the back of the fire and the smaller stuff for the front of the fire.
@matthewpeter6 жыл бұрын
what a load of rubbish DEEREMEYER1. Clearly you have no experience of steam locos.
@inkyscrolls51936 жыл бұрын
+DEERMEYER1 There speaks someone with no firsthand experience of coal, firing, steam locomotives, or British railways! That looked like pretty decent coal to me. Remember that in general the coal we have in the UK is a much higher quality than that which is available in the US. Over here you're always taught that if the coal doesn't 'ring' against the shovel, it's either rubbish coal or you're doing it wrong. Of course the coal won't instantly burst into flame, what were you expecting? It's a steam loco, you've got to plan about ten minutes in advance of what you're doing. You can't just bung a round on and expect it to react instantly! And to answer your question, no, we don't have 'crushers'. Generally the coal gets broken up on shed, or (particularly nowadays) the railway will just buy coal already around the right size. A bit of variation doesn't matter - you just put the larger lumps at the back, and the smaller ones at the front (though it will vary a lot from loco to loco). I'm not sure what you're suggesting by putting "British" in scare quotes. That loco is immediately recognisable from the cab-layout as a BR Standard of some sort, in this case a class 4 no. 75029. All the BR Standards (as in fact were all British steam locos!) were designed and built entirely in the UK, which is the case even to this day. In short, I'm going to assume you're some sort of troll aiming to get a reaction, in which case - well done! But if not, and you genuinely don't have a clue about steam locomotives, then I hope this short explanation has been of use and interest to you. Good day. =)