If Grammarly was, as they report, explicitly authorized at the time she did her paper, then it's case closed... she's innocent. She used the grammar checker that the university itself recommended. She should have her probation lifted, her record cleared, her paper re-graded, the professor/university officials who punished her reprimanded, and she be given a public apology.

The irony of this story... The teacher likely used an AI detection tool that is operated using AI 😂

I use grammerly for school. That is scary that happened because most universities provided students with that service.

I dont understand why its so hard for adults in power to say: "Our Mistake, We punished you incorrectly. We apologize and we will fix this." So many of the wrong people are in the wrong positions. When hiring people for leadership there should be a humbleness assessment

She's lying. Regular Grammarly only fixes grammar and punctuation, and it does not get flagged as AI. Grammarly Go, their AI plug-in, rewrites the content and suggests new content by suggesting content based on random Internet content, not the student's research. That is banned by most schools. As far as I'm concerned, Grammarly ruined their product by offering the Go plug-in.

I am dealing with the same problem and i find that offensive from the administration not doing anything to fix it

"We're promoting grammarly, but we fucked up and had to delete the evidence...." The gall of the university to promote it, and still put her on academic probation is downright wrong. The professor could have took her, brought her inside and go over the paper. The fact that the universities justification for not appealing it is that she wasn't suspended? Wasn't kicked out of the program? Are you kidding me?

Turnitin has a message to the professor that says the AI detection is not 100 percent accurate, and that you should investigate each case on its own merits, something to this effect. I have had students submit work and there was no doubt in my mind it was theirs. That being said Turnitin flagged it. Talked to the students and they used Grammarly to check their work and make suggestions. This is a bigger conversation that academia is having right now across the board. I do think for the interview to be non-biased I would have liked to have seen a representative from Turnitin be represented. I do feel bad for this young lady, it is simple take her work from her freshman year and run it through Grammarly and see if it gets flagged. Best wishes to you and your family this has to be tough.

Before Grammarly flags a student's submittal as having had AI assistance, it should inform the student that that will be the case. Looks like Grammarly did the student a disservice, Jenny.

I tried grammarly once. The paid service has STYLE correction too (not just grammar) . I wonder if she used that and that's why is flagged as AI generated.

Grammarly checks also for plagiarism

How did they find out that she had used Gramarly? Dies it leave some code in the paper? I don't understand.

There is a big difference between free Grammarly which checks for spelling and grammar and premium Grammarly which will alter a student's writing. Students tell me they have used Grammarly and the paper is being flagged as 100% AI. The "Grammarly" writing does not compare to their writing. Full stop.

It would be a good idea to properly investigate whether the professor has given zero marks on similarly spurious grounds in the past. It is more likely that a faculty member at a college is making false accusations against a student as part of an harassment action against that student than that Grammarly usage would sustainably show up as plagiarism

This makes me mad. They need to cite it as a source or its plagiarism and cheating. Period. You can't submit professionally written work as yours and you didn't write it.

The professor literally relies on AI to tell him whether how to grade. He's lazy.

It is on the schools website.

I definitely give a zero for students using AI. It's cheating unless they want to report it as a reference.

Math, science, history, everything’s on Siri

I agree she wasn't cheating, however, shouldn't a college student know how to use correct grammar and punctuation without the help of A.I.?

Something similar happened to me but it was a small section. I definitely won't be recommending or using grammarly again.

Don't use ai

Why would you use ai for college?

It's one thing to use it to help your grammar or spelling, but allowing it to rewrite your work and sentences is cheating. You didn't write it. We can tell professional or AI generated writing. Undergraduate students don't write better than professors or the professional writing seen in publications. It is cheating.

There is a signature the students have to say the student will not use AI

Get rid of “papers” altogether. There are other ways of conveying to your professor that you have done the research and that you know your 💩. NGC, Dahlonega 1st Battalion, Charlie XO Class of 2000 MOC 1962 Mountain All the Way

I’m curious to see what the AI score was on her work. I am a teacher and to test my AI checking tool, I put all of my recent papers I did for graduate school using Grammarly for its intended purpose. My score was never lower than 87% human. When my students turn in an essay that rings up as 100% AI, I investigate. I enter a handwritten paper they did into the AI checker, and it usually comes up as 90% human or higher. There should not be that much of a difference between their two works.

I'm so glad I don't subscribe to the AI bullshit

Every AI detection tool has a false positive error rate. Given the volume of papers produced in a university, even a small detection error rate can lead to a significant number of papers being incorrectly flagged. Consequently, various American universities have stopped using AI writing detectors due to concerns over mistakenly accusing students. Additionally, the method of detecting and proving AI-generated writing raises questions. Plagiarism from a text can be proven by presenting the original text that was copied, but proving that a text was generated by AI in a meaningful way poses a challenge. Simply claiming that it contains certain "patterns" (which patterns, exactly?) that are also found in AI-generated text may not be good enough.

It's happening to me right now

Grammarly has a generative AI feature…you don’t have to use this feature

I use it as well when my grammar was shit, I had no problem and I got all A’s and B’s

I’m hearing more and more about AI even celebrities are complaining.

Microsoft word also checks your grammar. ... ?

How can any one would say grammarly is using to make student copied from the work. If the words are not spoken due to the grammar mistake, that doesn't mean the work would be caught plagarisim from AI. The university professor should not only rely on AI as being 100% accurate, they should just dig through to investigate what is used for. AI detection is creating a false impression and ruining student privacy.

I don't get it when you do your research you use the internet. Is that not itself artificial intelligence as well in some form?

This is why I don't use Grammarly for papers. Scary.

What's AI you don't know if it's real or not

It's so funny anglophones here are preaching to her and don't even realise this skill they are demanding is not only extremelly rare (like 0.01% of Academic Post-Graduates) but its own ocupation.

I thought grammarly helps with grammar.. so what’s the problem? It’s equivalent to getting assistance from a writing workshop

Whats the go fund me for, lawyer fees to sue the school so they let her back in?

Ai advertising papers

Chicken Or the Egg ?

Looks like the AI detection tool has some bugs in it.

I'm an award-winning author, but I'd *never* use Grammarly nor any other special software to alter, tweak, "correct", or otherwise change my work. Granted, NO ONE cares, lol! 😂🤣😂 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨

Grammerly is better then Grammarly.

A paper can get flagged for many reasons not just because of AI. AI has been around since the 80s it seems like every 10 to 15 years it has gotten more advanced and it's crazy, Especially when schools say to use Grammarly and then the computer software they put it through is using AI bots I remember I was writing a paper in college and everything was 100% original before I turn it in, I put it through a plagiarism checker and it showed me 50% or more was plagiarize which it wasn't true. I understand Grammarly can be used to re-write papers it wasn't designed with that in mind it's just over the years people have used the software to their advantage. Unfortunately, a lot of these comments are correct AI is here to stay what I think Grammarly should do is to remove the feature that allows you to re-write papers and I think that should help look at Microsoft Office, Apple pages, and all the other software that is out there sure, they all have their share of complaints but students are not getting in trouble over them. You might be thinking why should we listen to this guy he doesn't know what he's talking about but I am an IT technician I'm going to school for cyber security and I'm working on my certifications and A+, Cloud+, Linux+, Network+, Server+, and Security+ I also have been in this tech industry for 12 years

What some students don't understand is that WRITING IS COGNITION. If you cannot write well, then you have impaired cognition. *Turn off your auto-correct, and stay away from AI.* Take pride in YOUR writing----even when you have to struggle with it. That's how you learn.

This is simple to fix. The University should present the student with the original texts from which the "plagiarized" works were derived and ask that the evidence be refuted. The reporters should do better investigative work.

Jesus Christ! It’s called spellcheck and grammar checks!

There is a radar and then there's a radar detector, and then there is a detector to detect that radar detector, and then there is a detector to detect that detector to detect that radar detector. Oh boy, this ain't going nowhere. I wonder if the browser was 'managed' by the college. But regardless if grammarly was in the approved list, she did not do anything wrong, IMO.

I bet that if we ran the professor's papers and dissertations through the same AI-detecting software that he used (which probably also uses AI), it would flag his research papers.

Wework

i mean... why not just read ur essay? i doubt this girls paper was more than a few pages

There's no way to know if something was written by AI. It's words. A human could put together the same set of words as an AI tool can, I don't understand how there's any possible way to tell the difference.

Jenny should sue her school for defamation and lost time.

Did the college provide locked down "writing rooms" where students are patted down on entry to make sure they don't use any artificial writing performance enhancers? How else could they effectively police it?

I hate the news reporter she is toxic

they should add a rule: no grammarly, or other computer influence. (use a dictionary or encyclopedia). do some work for once. computers will be gone one day-- there was a time where we just had pen, pencil, paper, typewriter, white-out, erasers, and dictionaries. (and stop with the "but, its technology"-- technology is becoming a disability to youngsters..)

This is so ridiculously unfair and absolutely not ok.

Law school and you need a grammar checker I mean, if you can’t even do your own grammar, checking on your own essays, how good are you gonna be to detail within your profession? Lazy lazy and not only that she’s not even passionate now can you imagine when she’s in the profession. This is the problem with the new generation they want to take the easy way out for everything, and in the long run they never had a strong foundation to begin with. Your foundation is everything and if you can’t even do your own grammar checking in law school, I think there’s a problem with the system. This is lazy and this is already showing red flags to the profession. I would not hire this young lady. This is why there is no quality anymore and everything is just about quantity.

Grammarly just rewords what you write. Grammarly is not cheating.

She’s lying ..

Professor should'nt use to evaluate students period

This is ridiculous. I am a college professor and the trauma and inequities we perpetuate in universities are unacceptable. Let's teach students how to use AI responsibly. I've embraced AI in the classroom. My students love it and I see much deeper introspective work than before. I am not opposed to teaching students to improve thei grammar and writing skills, but if AI can help with that, then great. I'm more interested in the content and their understanding and use of the content (I'm not an English teacher). BTW, I'm a published author, and I use all kinds of technology and AI for my work. My colleagues who refuse to use technology are struggling.

So spell checking shouldn't exist?

Regarding her paper, i really cannot say much but her makeup aka her blush if it really is blush and not just natural rosy cheeks, it is an epic fail. Less is more and blend blend blend

If you don’t check your grammar with grammerly you really aren’t doing your job

That is cheating. Learn proper punctuation and spelling correctly. Duh. Lazy

That is cheating. Because you'd have been marked down for not knowing proper grammar and punctuation

Her only legitimate point is that the school's website specifically encourages students to use it, assuming the context she is claiming is true. Regardless, it's obviously wrong to to have another entity editing your paper without any additional input of work on your part. School's have tudors and people who will help you recognize where your grammar and punctuation are lacking, but they don't rewrite the wrong parts and fix them for you. That should be the standard here..

Don't use ai