Sall Grover on the legal battle which could threaten women's rights globally | SpectatorTV

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Julie Bindel speaks to Sall Grover, CEO of the women only app Giggle which has been taken to federal court in Australia. Roxy Tickle - a biological male who identifies as a woman - alleges that they were discriminated against after being removed from the app. It is a landmark legal case which could have implications for the sanctity of female only spaces and for women's rights around the world.
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@lks6248
@lks6248 4 ай бұрын
Good men wouldn’t dream of invading women’s spaces.
@lovelover4408
@lovelover4408 3 ай бұрын
Exactly. It’s very telling what type of man is suing for entry.
@markellis9355
@markellis9355 3 ай бұрын
Men of strong character. Not the weak men of this insipid generation
@cbrown6848
@cbrown6848 3 ай бұрын
Well... women opened the door to this saying that males and females are the same and gender is just a social construct. Let's be honest
@motelghost477
@motelghost477 3 ай бұрын
And good women wouldn't dream of being feminists who promote far-left ideologies.
@frankgradus9474
@frankgradus9474 3 ай бұрын
"Who loves not wine, women and song remains a fool his whole life long."
@MoltenLens
@MoltenLens 3 ай бұрын
Ordinary Australian bloke here... supporting Sall all the way. She needs to win this for all our sakes.
@sadev101
@sadev101 3 ай бұрын
she needs donations. itl cost 500.000 for the first case (250000 already garnered this way) but likely she will lose so it will go higher up. another 500.000
@jeffreypierce1440
@jeffreypierce1440 3 ай бұрын
Will you also fight for men only spaces?
@BrokenDiety1
@BrokenDiety1 3 ай бұрын
Get some self-respect. They've been invading men's spaces for decades. Let them feel the "equality" for a change.
@NebulaSon
@NebulaSon 3 ай бұрын
​@@jeffreypierce1440 You know these people not going to do that.
@willow1698
@willow1698 3 ай бұрын
Did you donate?
@DisgruntledUSA
@DisgruntledUSA 3 ай бұрын
On behalf of the USA, I apologize. I feel like we started this insanity. This is all so bizarre. I feel like I fell asleep and woke up in a Franz Kafka novel. The world has lost their collective minds.
@sypetsutube1272
@sypetsutube1272 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. The rest of the world. Now, let's stand up and do something about it.
@jeremyroberts39
@jeremyroberts39 3 ай бұрын
So it was you guys that are responsible for contaminating my country as well. Who can I sue? 😂🇬🇧
@musalmaniac6328
@musalmaniac6328 3 ай бұрын
Sorry butt I feel the same way. America's dedication to it's own opinions, the relentless fear and will to avoid being wrong and the tribalism you exhibit to protect your beliefs was the perfect breeding ground for ideologies that rely on gaslighting and narcissism
@DisgruntledUSA
@DisgruntledUSA 3 ай бұрын
@@jeremyroberts39 This gained traction in the mid 2010s so you can start with Obama and sue just about every democrat since then. They're the one's that support this madness.
@KarePassion
@KarePassion 3 ай бұрын
Don't apologize. Wokeness is a "co-opted" movement. Governments and large corporations stir this up and agitate. They use it to control, divide people, and distract us from what the government and corporations are doing that mean much, much more than gender wokeness. We never hear about true human rights violations and environmental degradation. People have been duped into believing that this shit matters. But it is just a ficking shit-show circus. BTW I am from America and now living in the UK. The rest of the world is stirring this stuff up and using it as a tool of divisiveness and social control. It is being used to undermine human rights globally. Not just women, but all human rights. Don't take responsibility for it. And though at a point, I might have agreed in seeing the US as a villain, I see it as a global corporate movement. Don't forget that people, including teens, in Saudi Arabia can be and have been executed for sending an offensive or critical text. Not an American invention.
@peacebeatsdrama
@peacebeatsdrama 3 ай бұрын
I’m a father of 3 teenage daughters. I’m proud of, and grateful to, the way you’re fighting for their future 💚
@lilymack4028
@lilymack4028 15 күн бұрын
I hope you find a way to actively support this outrageous movement for them, too. We need the support of both women & men to combat this (scientific) madness.
@lauriecoates9699
@lauriecoates9699 4 ай бұрын
As a man "who dosent wear a frock", I support her 100% and her cause. This madness should not have been given any court time whatsoever.
@Momthra1121
@Momthra1121 3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@stephenparry6811
@stephenparry6811 3 ай бұрын
We should also advocate for male only spaces too
@woollyprimate
@woollyprimate 3 ай бұрын
They already exist. Locker rooms, saunas, those weird organizations or whatever like the Masons. Women initially fought for co-ed spaces when it had to do with the men having an advantage, like doing business dealings in a place where women weren’t allowed. When it comes to people wanting to socialize with their own sex, women don’t want to invade male spaces. But these pervert males want to go in women only spaces.
@nicoledeloncrais5940
@nicoledeloncrais5940 3 ай бұрын
Thank you sir ❤
@wendydonnelly1881
@wendydonnelly1881 3 ай бұрын
It's not just HER cause, this has wider implications than just her website. Wider implications than just Australia. If this case goes to tikkel then women across the GLOBE will be forced to suffer the consequences. This is TERRIFYING.
@f.b.4871
@f.b.4871 4 ай бұрын
She’s an absolute force of nature. Clear and unapologetic. Love her!
@arther4tune443
@arther4tune443 4 ай бұрын
But can she win against the ideology? debatable in the current climate whereby trans ideology is top dog. Good luck Sall, you'll need it.
@MultiLlewis
@MultiLlewis 4 ай бұрын
@@arther4tune443 why are you not standing alongside her/us? Stop leaving the battles that (you say) affect you for other people to fight
@arther4tune443
@arther4tune443 4 ай бұрын
​​​​@@MultiLlewis I'm with Sall 100% no doubt about it, but the trans side are cunning & very strong, so here's hoping Sall wins before it gets to the High Court. God's speed Sall ❤
@Enhancedlies
@Enhancedlies 3 ай бұрын
it's been a long battle , the poor woman. i am in disbelief and I've been following this from the start...
@incurableromantic4006
@incurableromantic4006 3 ай бұрын
@@MultiLlewis "why are you not standing alongside her" Because feminists like these two *created* the entire woke culture that they are now complaining about. They forced it on the rest of society and did vast, probably irreparable damage to our civilisation - and are now complaining about being savaged by the monster THEY created, nurtured, and loosed on the world. Why should I stand with people who utterly despise me and everything I believe in?
@shanemulligan791
@shanemulligan791 3 ай бұрын
Its absolute madness to think I as a man can just say Im a women and start taking people to court if they dont agree with me. The world really is crazy!
@TomRaw-sd6xd
@TomRaw-sd6xd 3 ай бұрын
Empowered madmen need remedial steps taken by madder men, if they cannot be stopped.
@1grtbglv
@1grtbglv 19 күн бұрын
@@shanemulligan791 And being able to take people to court is just a side effect of this "movement", what it actually does to women/biological women, it takes away the space we have owned since men and women have existed on this earth, it takes away our right to inhabit our own space. Biological females are being erased by these "movements". We would be reduced to "birthing pods". For "them" to take our spaces they have to remove us from them, and they do not care about that. Yet.. They want, and now demand, to be accepted by us, the very people they literally want to erase, or at the very least reduce to almost nothing, for themselves to be able to exist in our spaces.
@matthewclegg950
@matthewclegg950 16 күн бұрын
@@shanemulligan791 it needs to be made illegal to claim to be neither or the sex/gender to which your physical form is not.
@lilymack4028
@lilymack4028 15 күн бұрын
@@matthewclegg950 IMO, it needs to be illegal to change a historical argument.
@cptsteele91
@cptsteele91 3 ай бұрын
Surely the fact he calls himself Roxy Tickle should be a clue to anyone regarding this person's motivations... I mean, that sounds like a stage name from a very specific corner of the entertainment industry
@gracefruit__
@gracefruit__ 3 ай бұрын
Right, good freaking point. Wants to "blend in" as a woman except... doesn't actually at all. Wants the attention - just like this case.
@Jordana_FPM
@Jordana_FPM 4 ай бұрын
As a woman, mom to 7 daughters…this is absolute insanity… heartbreaking to watch all rights of women dissolved by a few misogynistic men…we’ve got to stand up and fight!!!
@lks6248
@lks6248 4 ай бұрын
Teach your daughters to fight too!
@user-ve9ho9yt7o
@user-ve9ho9yt7o 3 ай бұрын
I too am from a long line of women 1 of 8 girls only had daughters and granddaughters recently grandsons .. I feel my children and grandchildren are being stolen from as they rightfully are natural born women .. no confusion there are men women and they have their “trans” sorry they can’t have transport that’s a vessel of travel so best they get mental help for their confusion
@grunge_surf_witch_uk9130
@grunge_surf_witch_uk9130 3 ай бұрын
@@lks6248we also need men to fight this too seen as it’s coming from men!!
@user-dz8lf5ek4s
@user-dz8lf5ek4s 3 ай бұрын
Bless your 7 daughters ❤ May they live to grow up in a world where women's rights are protected for good
@joshjones9878
@joshjones9878 3 ай бұрын
7 daughters wow. Hope you have enough bathrooms.
@pointermom7641
@pointermom7641 4 ай бұрын
So a 6'4" man with a full beard could demand to come into women's spaces just by claiming that on that day, he felt like a woman? This is ludicrous. Who is paying Tickle's legal expenses?
@alisonjenner5821
@alisonjenner5821 3 ай бұрын
Legal aid.
@vivian9187
@vivian9187 3 ай бұрын
Apparently a law firm, Barry Nilsson
@alexandragrace8164
@alexandragrace8164 3 ай бұрын
The Australian taxpayer is paying his expenses! I’m an Australian; our Australian Human Rights Commission is a government body that is supporting Tickle in this legal case. Tickle also received a $50,000 grant from the government to support his expenses. This is all on the Aussie taxpayer.
@scorpina69
@scorpina69 3 ай бұрын
@@alexandragrace8164 😲😡
@renadog1
@renadog1 3 ай бұрын
I feel like a good woman, now that I think of it.
@johnoneofmany
@johnoneofmany 3 ай бұрын
Man here. I am 100% behind what Sall is fighting for. I completely agree that women (more so than men) need and have a right to women's-only spaces and I am out there standing up for that all over social media. We all need to keep making noise about this. It's an injustice that needs to *stop.*
@peteroconnor4672
@peteroconnor4672 3 күн бұрын
@rubynutman
@rubynutman 3 ай бұрын
Sexual assault and domestic violence are the worst things that can happen to women. These men who say they are women are belittling and insulting these traumas that women are at risk of facing because we are women.
@poetryinmotion8112
@poetryinmotion8112 4 ай бұрын
I am a heterosexual woman who obviously dates men, but in the past I have experienced bad experiences with men. So I would prefer to keep women only spaces where possible..
@davidrenton
@davidrenton 4 ай бұрын
likewise many men would like Male only spaces for the same reason
@poetryinmotion8112
@poetryinmotion8112 4 ай бұрын
But most men do have male only spaces in men's toilets, mens sports etc etc
@stephanieroth16
@stephanieroth16 4 ай бұрын
​​@@davidrentonThe physical power imbalance is the point, not having a disappointing dinner date. Women are afraid of men in their spaces where we need privacy and safety. You aren't worried that a woman will rape or kill you if you are alone in a men's bathroom with her. We women are.
@reggiekray723
@reggiekray723 4 ай бұрын
Welcome to The Garrick Club - men only, thanks
@DavidA-ps1qr
@DavidA-ps1qr 4 ай бұрын
As a heterosexual man, I am distressed by your comment. I assure you that all men are not like some of those you have met. I'd love to prove it, but I've been happily married for 30 years!! XXX
@Messier45_Pleiades
@Messier45_Pleiades 4 ай бұрын
When I talked about my views on transsexuals at my local pride group, I was told I needed to meet with the group leaders and a couple of ftm transsexuals for re-education. I was one of the oldest people in the group. I came out in 1978, and I needed re-education. I walked away.
@brunumb4914
@brunumb4914 3 ай бұрын
🙋‍♂ Well done! They need to be de-programed. 👍
@35406
@35406 3 ай бұрын
I'm guessing you are conservative in your views.
@user-jf3lo6ss2i
@user-jf3lo6ss2i 3 ай бұрын
@@35406 This has nothing to do with your political leanings, this has to do with the redefinition of the word "woman" to include natal males and what that means for the human race and society as a whole.
@maralfniqle5092
@maralfniqle5092 3 ай бұрын
Indeed, through a couple of close family who are gay men I have seen how a percentage of bullying trans "women" want to also cancel them!! They target young boys who are gay to convince them to go through all the hormone and surgery torture to become trans. This is abhorrent
@obinwataje
@obinwataje 3 ай бұрын
"Re-education" reeks of gulags and forced labor.
@youcantdiealonewithcats
@youcantdiealonewithcats 3 ай бұрын
YES. Let's get our rights back. So much love, honor, respect, admiration and gratitude for this woman, and ALL women who are putting their faces and voices out there to fight for the very basic fundamentals of our rights back.
@ajsonstegard5729
@ajsonstegard5729 25 күн бұрын
It’s a very powerful message that women setting boundaries is illegal. Go Sall
@neileverard5877
@neileverard5877 3 ай бұрын
I support Sall Grover 100% . What the hell is going in the world. This is insane. If they rule against her the rights of women will be lost forever. Why do these people have to butt into everybody else's life. Australia in a awesome country , but if the courts go against her then that's a big slap in the face women worldwide.
@jae2686
@jae2686 4 ай бұрын
Support this woman and her cause financially, I’ve done so because it’s imperative she win. She’s fighting for all of us with a shred of sanity left.
@kbaker9804
@kbaker9804 4 ай бұрын
How?
@pooheadlou
@pooheadlou 3 ай бұрын
@@kbaker9804 at abut 34 mins in they talk about how you can help!
@Verdent777
@Verdent777 3 ай бұрын
@@kbaker9804because it will set president. Any non woman will think it can get away with treating women with utter contempt all the while pretending they are one.
@lesferguson7020
@lesferguson7020 3 ай бұрын
@@Verdent777 Hopefully it will also set precedent : )
@Verdent777
@Verdent777 3 ай бұрын
@@lesferguson7020 yeah auto correct!! I didn’t proof read. Glad you were smart enough to read through the lines!!!
@vespien2056
@vespien2056 3 ай бұрын
Any male who deliberately tries to gain access to female-only spaces is just creepy and sinister. I really wish more women in Australia will start speaking up. Unfortunately there seems to be a rather deafening silence on this issue here, and because of that, many others aren't even aware of the scale of the problem.
@Gatsu6
@Gatsu6 3 ай бұрын
So sad that there are no brave journalists in Australia to broadcast what is going on. They are cowards shame on them
@missp498
@missp498 3 ай бұрын
The gay community are not behind this issue in Australia, is my feeling, when they are its on the down low. They do not want to be attacked. people support it behind closed doors. Opinions of young progressive people adjacent to the Queer (ie non gay/lesbian but the feelling a bit spicy crew's) are drowning out real lesbian and gay voices. I don't know if the older gay/lesbian community can be bothered to fight. They are out of the scene and they like it that way.
@tracygeddes5867
@tracygeddes5867 3 ай бұрын
Any male, what about transgender women or are you just fixated on one size fits all? Sounds mega selfish of you, just saying.
@LisaBeta-42
@LisaBeta-42 3 ай бұрын
Problem is the high costs of any legal action being taken against you. Stay off the radar and they won't target you YET. It works like this "triangle-song" in times of oppression (assigning a colour to every "crime" imaginable and putting the offenders away in concentration camps with a downward pointing triangle on their clothing to indicate WHY there were imprisoned). The singer never bothers, not belonging to any of the targeted groups. Until getting into the focus too and realizing that nobody was left to alley with 😮 HUMAN Rights should be the first thing on the agenda: the right to associate with the people YOU choose. Like marrying - only one partner (NOT a hate-crime NOT dating random other people). The righteous activists claim "being intolerant against the intolerant" puts them on moral high-ground... doing the things you claim to fight only makes you a hypocrite. Look at what the people actually DO, before you are judging them: being violent, preaching violence, or applauding violence should all be red flags. Having a different oppinion or sticking to certain boundaries are issues protected by the idea of free speech. In the heat of the moment some words in formulating your opinion might sound a bit off - anyone is free to question THAT, but never tell anybody to become violent, against people with a different opinion. Calling for violence IS a hate-crime, blocking people from discouse a questionable and immature move to silence free speech. There ARE laws against certain lies and misinformation: apply the the correct channels to enforce them (don't call the lynch- mob to do as they please).
@baconsarny-geddon8298
@baconsarny-geddon8298 3 ай бұрын
"Gender" ideology is just a magnet for the WORST men, lured by the special priveleges it grants (eg access to female spaces, where ACTUAL women/girls are most vulnerable), and the protection that "LGBTQ" status gives them... Which is why, statistically, the men who self-ID as "transwomen" are MORE likely to commit sex crimes than the overall male average; Overall, males are more than 50x more likely to commit a sex crime than a female... But males who self-ID as "transwomen" are almost 4x more likely to commit a sex crime than the male average- So that's almost TWO HUNDRED TIMES more likely, than an real, evidence-based woman... So the evidence-based stats say that women and girls would objectively be safer, allowing any man who DOESN'T call himself "a transwoman" into their bathrooms and changerooms... That's not my opinion; It's the logical conclusion of the cold, hard data...
@Renzoid65
@Renzoid65 3 ай бұрын
as a man in SA, thanks for not backing down. stay strong.
@jadedandcynical-sc9ri
@jadedandcynical-sc9ri 3 ай бұрын
This is madness!! You are fighting a good fight worth winning, for all women. You both are a brave bold inspiration. 🙏💯
@maggieattenborrow6725
@maggieattenborrow6725 3 ай бұрын
All women should support Sall, she is fighting for ALL Womens Rights!!! She is awsome.
@sophiepooks2174
@sophiepooks2174 3 ай бұрын
By that logic so were the O.G Nazi's, the Berlin institute of sexology was the first ransacked by them in 1934 and books burned, trans librarian the first fatality, gay and trans were amongst the first sent to the death camps. She is fighting for legal and physical erasure of a marginalized minority please stop being dishonest.
@Jerry-od8kx
@Jerry-od8kx 3 ай бұрын
All men who care about women should support her cause.
@stephenmason5682
@stephenmason5682 3 ай бұрын
All men should also! I do!
@missynas1234
@missynas1234 15 күн бұрын
Where are all these so called FEMINIST? They should be fighting these fights! All women should backup Sally, these 🏳️‍⚧️ don’t want to be acceptance ,they now forcing themselves onto us!
@missynas1234
@missynas1234 15 күн бұрын
Exactly! Where are all these so called FEMINIST, why they do quiet? Sally do continue!
@mariamonteiro4707
@mariamonteiro4707 3 ай бұрын
the men who want acess to women only spaces are the reason that spaces were created in the first place. Good men respect womens boundries 🙏
@user-ge4pr7lg4b
@user-ge4pr7lg4b 3 ай бұрын
Do women respect men's boundaries ?.
@kikilu79
@kikilu79 3 ай бұрын
@@user-ge4pr7lg4bwomen who don’t respect men’s boundaries should be called out and ostracized the same way if it was the other way around.
@kevinf6365
@kevinf6365 3 ай бұрын
@@kikilu79 women have been doing it for years, there are no mens only spaces. No mens only gyms, no boy scouts, to name a few. As a man I feel divided on this, unfortunately women set the precedent
@tilapiadave3234
@tilapiadave3234 3 ай бұрын
WOW ,, sexism at it's finest
@sarahquinlan5910
@sarahquinlan5910 3 ай бұрын
@@kevinf6365There are men’s toilets, correctional facilities, institutions, sports teams, Masonic groups, and so many more. What on earth are you on about?
@helenromanelli2544
@helenromanelli2544 3 ай бұрын
As Helen Joyce has said, these AGPs will not hear the word no from women...
@sophiacalon3463
@sophiacalon3463 23 күн бұрын
Well ofc, it’s a paraphilia, the lack of consent is what excites them 🤮
@ros1520
@ros1520 3 ай бұрын
So many times I hear”I can’t believe we are even having conversation “ I say it myself frequently.This is a very good marker of how absolutely ridiculous this whole situation has become, women are no longer allowed to be safe - this is totally unacceptable.
@10gsplus
@10gsplus 3 ай бұрын
As a man, I hang my head in shame, the Tickles of the world do not need an app, but rather some serious help in dealing with themselves. I wish Sall Grover the very best of luck in her upcoming battle. May reason prevail!
@shahannagrey8427
@shahannagrey8427 3 ай бұрын
But he won’t care about your feelings, because he claims he’s Not a Man.
@brunofekitoa9215
@brunofekitoa9215 3 ай бұрын
This is to all of skiddle Tickles of the world get your own app where you can talk Tickles on your own and tickle each other in where ever your funny or humorous bone is and stop invading woman's only club because you are not woman simple as that coz there's so many of your gender around the world now go and talk to Caitlin Jenner coz it has connections for your type just saying
@pointermom7641
@pointermom7641 3 ай бұрын
It appears quite clear that he has AGP which is a fetish, not a gender.
@koos48
@koos48 Ай бұрын
Why hang your head in shame? What have you done wrong? Lots of men are murderers. Hang your head in shame for that too? It makes no sense.
@barbaraann7664
@barbaraann7664 4 ай бұрын
I demand female only spaces and will not apologize for it. Approval neither required nor desired. Great interview Thankyou both for speaking out!
@chrisa5631
@chrisa5631 4 ай бұрын
I support you but you need to march against trans invading it.
@davidadiwego4608
@davidadiwego4608 4 ай бұрын
Maybe should've thought about that when y'all demanded that legislators made discrimination on the basis of sex-type illegal.
@racheljames7
@racheljames7 3 ай бұрын
Did you give a damn when male only spaces were taken from men, or did you celebrate it like most women? Women voting for nonesense is what led to this perversion of men wanting to be in women's changing rooms. The world has gone to hell in a hand basket since we were given the vote. We have abused the privilege.
@bugsy742
@bugsy742 3 ай бұрын
We had men only spaces - women DEMANDED it was sexist, it’s now illegal, Women invaded men’s spaces on the basis of discrimination, dunno why you now demand women only spaces? I thought that was sexist?
@E4_MAFIA
@E4_MAFIA 3 ай бұрын
@@davidadiwego4608you say “y’all” like sex-based protection is something we all fought against. What a wonderful generalization you have there.
@waynebollman
@waynebollman 26 күн бұрын
I've been monitoring this kind of situation for a couple years and my mind is still blown that this is a battle that has to be fought. The world has gone completely insane.
@robertsmith8709
@robertsmith8709 3 ай бұрын
Most real Men are 100% with women on this issue, we are also against being told to lie to ourselves to satisfy the delusions of some People. Why should I worry about hurting someone's feelings over my Feelings !!
@HonestJohnstories-lv7sb
@HonestJohnstories-lv7sb 4 ай бұрын
This British man wishes you the very best of luck with all of your endevours!
@HanFace89
@HanFace89 3 ай бұрын
Do you think us British would cave to this nonsense? Scotland are, I absolutely will not, personally, but all the political parties manifestos mention promoting LGBT rights and I don't want to vote for any of them! NHS have JUST banned hormone treatment for gender confused teens, and I want it to stay that way 😭
@nicoledeloncrais5940
@nicoledeloncrais5940 3 ай бұрын
Thank you sir 🙂
@catherinerobilliard7662
@catherinerobilliard7662 4 ай бұрын
Sall Grover isn’t the pushover Tickle thought she was
@amaryllisequistra
@amaryllisequistra 3 ай бұрын
One thing that Sall didn’t mention is that The Tickle was permitted by the court to file 166 days (or thereabouts) late. I’m guessing that Sall would not have been extended the same courtesy. It gets me wondering about ideological capture…
@fortynine3225
@fortynine3225 4 ай бұрын
They legally change what a woman is with vast majority of woman not paying attention.
@MultiLlewis
@MultiLlewis 4 ай бұрын
Not while I have breath in my body. I'm a (heterosexual) woman. Lesbian or straight WE ARE WOMEN
@George-vf7ss
@George-vf7ss 4 ай бұрын
😂🤡💩
@MultiLlewis
@MultiLlewis 4 ай бұрын
@@George-vf7ss hi George. What dress are you wearing tonight? 🤩
@alicerose6640
@alicerose6640 4 ай бұрын
We were paying attention, Julia Gillard just didnt give a shit about us, she was on a power trip, bowing to the minority and telling women to be quiet and put up with it and no other government since, has had the balls to reinstate womens rights, to protect them from delusional men hell bent on erasing women.
@GreenWhitePurple
@GreenWhitePurple 3 ай бұрын
The vast majority of women are not informed about it because most of the media is captured.
@jacquelinetaylor8683
@jacquelinetaylor8683 4 ай бұрын
Whos paying for this mans case against this Women? That would answer a lot.
@lemongrass9070
@lemongrass9070 4 ай бұрын
Australian legal aid.
@vivian9187
@vivian9187 4 ай бұрын
​that figures. All this badness is being encouraged by governments all over the world
@leefurst2822
@leefurst2822 4 ай бұрын
I think its actually the humans rights commission?
@vivian9187
@vivian9187 4 ай бұрын
The society of magical unicorn breeders
@helen9289
@helen9289 3 ай бұрын
yeah I am wondering who is backing this movement !!
@user-kp3pe8oi9y
@user-kp3pe8oi9y 3 ай бұрын
So totally admire this WOMAN ..wish so much I could help her. Unfortunately being a pensioner I am financially unable to. Its scary to think if this court case is lost, for the first time in human history there is no such thing as a woman, woman will have been cancelled.
@SickBoy82
@SickBoy82 3 ай бұрын
Ladies, my hat's off. What a insane situation, it's just unbelievable. 👍
@GreenWhitePurple
@GreenWhitePurple 3 ай бұрын
Sall Grover is one of those people who have a gift for saying something different in each of the many interviews she does. Supporting her completely and very grateful that she’s one of the phenomenal women arguing for sanity and women’s rights. Julie Bindel is a great, thoughtful, intelligent interviewer bringing out the issues too.
@juneelle370
@juneelle370 4 ай бұрын
Biological sex is not sexism! Gender is!
@rrumpf4319
@rrumpf4319 3 ай бұрын
It’s bigger than destroying just women’s rights…..it’s totally dismantling sanity !
@dunkel.760
@dunkel.760 3 ай бұрын
Sall Grover and Julie Bindel, thank you so much for your amazing work for women's rights. I almost cry while watching this, it's amazing the delusion and how people look away to please this small group of people and their allies who cry "oppression" over and over.... This impunity to nonsense is incredible!
@sonnykeith8338
@sonnykeith8338 4 ай бұрын
Man here, agree and support 100%, but I believe 90% of men would agree with and support your thoughts and ambitions. Good luck and best wishes always.
@user-vv4eh5mo8s
@user-vv4eh5mo8s 3 ай бұрын
99.99 percent at least.
@miekesmit7012
@miekesmit7012 3 ай бұрын
I believe it is likely 99%
@127Foxtrot
@127Foxtrot 3 ай бұрын
Agree, it would be a minimum of 99% of men agree and support you Sall. Also, I don’t think these transgenders are ‘anti-women’, rather they are delusional in this perverted idea that “I think I am a woman, there I am”…
@Madonnalitta1
@Madonnalitta1 3 ай бұрын
I used to think the same, but Internet comments let me know how wrong I was. It's good to know that there are a few good men left, thankyou.
@honeychurchgipsy6
@honeychurchgipsy6 3 ай бұрын
@sonnykeith8338 - yes, thank you for your support. I am constantly surprised and delighted by the immense support given by men - unfortunately, as in almost any issue, it's the highly vocal and often litigious minority that get all of the air space and dominate the narrative. They then come to represent the group they are a member of. I am a feminist but see young women scared to call themselves feminists for this very reason, yet it seems like a no brainer to me that, as a woman, you would want equality. The same goes for trans people: most just want a quiet life where most people don't even notice they are trans.
@barbaralynch1035
@barbaralynch1035 3 ай бұрын
This is pure hatred of real women, putting this lovely woman and her family through this!!!!
@taraquinch1256
@taraquinch1256 Ай бұрын
Exactly. Pure misogyny..
@shirleystein6521
@shirleystein6521 3 ай бұрын
Women have the right to women's spaces regardless if they have been treated badly or not by men. Men too have the right to men's spaces. What's wrong with the world. It's gone absolutely crazy. Aren't there more important issues to deal with?
@AydenVoy
@AydenVoy 3 ай бұрын
Best of luck for tomorrow, Sall. I wish the case was being live streamed. Thank you for standing up for female rights to female only spaces. Thank you for speaking up and advocating for females. There are so many of us whispering what you are shouting, we whisper because our jobs and reputations aren’t safe if we speak up to say we don’t feel safe.
@KitschKiss-pi8wp
@KitschKiss-pi8wp 4 ай бұрын
We hardly have any money, we missed our rent for the first time ever, but I still donated £5...and I'm paying my rent in 3 days as I'll have been paid
@Madonnalitta1
@Madonnalitta1 3 ай бұрын
❤ That's worth more than a million dollars from a rich person.
@MallywiniFilms
@MallywiniFilms 3 ай бұрын
@nostalgiagatuna
@nostalgiagatuna 3 ай бұрын
❤❤
@manfredhoudek2385
@manfredhoudek2385 4 ай бұрын
I live in Australia and have linked this to a Federal member in the government. One Nation party. Hopefully they will get as pissed off as I am and bring it up in parliament and put the government on the spot. This is absolutely disgusting.
@alicenolan8927
@alicenolan8927 3 ай бұрын
I’ve contacted my local federal rep too
@nicoledeloncrais5940
@nicoledeloncrais5940 3 ай бұрын
Totally. It's simply a 21st century form of invasive procedures coached in a political agenda. If you have a penis (XY chromosomes) stay out, pure & simply.
@rachnajdi9578
@rachnajdi9578 3 ай бұрын
The formerly known Liberal democratic party will definitely stop this woke bullshit.
@heatherscott3008
@heatherscott3008 3 ай бұрын
You go girl! This Canadian woman supports you.
@giffordgarry6787
@giffordgarry6787 3 ай бұрын
Attempting to write vague ideas, feelings and emotions into law is a recipe for disaster and is a sad reflection of the low caliber of minds currently in government and the courts.
@lks6248
@lks6248 4 ай бұрын
It is the most fundamental of human rights to be able to commune with whoever you wish and not commune with those you don’t. Why does the government in a supposed free society think it has any business to interfere with this basic choice ?!
@owensclock
@owensclock 3 ай бұрын
A fuaamental human right ....until NOW, apparently.
@JeffThePoustman
@JeffThePoustman 3 ай бұрын
It wasn't so fundamental for the gents, though, was it? Nope, that was "sexist". And now perverted men have gone full circle. Acknowledge the whole error.
@res7borg108
@res7borg108 3 ай бұрын
Government: Because fuck your feelings and your rights. You gave us all the power so what can you do about it? Nothing you subject number 3271231.
@ribbonsofnight
@ribbonsofnight 3 ай бұрын
The government thinks it gets to stay silent because it has already set up all the mechanisms to allow this and it can blame any previous government if the media ever start reporting it. Probably not wrong either.
@stufen11
@stufen11 4 ай бұрын
Never heard of this case in Australia, the media here run interference by constantly discussing nonsense and trivia.
@violettownmicroenterprises1528
@violettownmicroenterprises1528 3 ай бұрын
Every country does. The USA does, in Canada you cant talk about their MAID euthanasia program which is 1984 in all its horrors... Every country controls its media
@uk9030
@uk9030 3 ай бұрын
Sall’s daughter is going to be so proud of her mama when she grows up ❤
@MrStartrek62
@MrStartrek62 3 ай бұрын
A wonderful woman who is highlighting the fact that Australia with other left-wing administrations have seriously lost connection with all people who have a smidgen of common sense.
@vivian9187
@vivian9187 4 ай бұрын
Sall summed all this up perfectly with her sentence "good men dont go into women only spaces", thats why women are afraid straight off when they see a man in these places. We know that they are not there to use the loo, or shower.
@MultiLlewis
@MultiLlewis 4 ай бұрын
'trans' women get aroused by being in women's spaces. It's male domination that turns them on
@vespien2056
@vespien2056 3 ай бұрын
The last part really highlights the absolute absurdity of this case; If this was a man, who identified as a man, trying to gain access to the app then there would be no case to be had. However, because this man identifies as a woman, the sanctity of women's rights laws in Australia are now under threat more than ever. Absolutely ludicrous.
@juliacheetham2734
@juliacheetham2734 3 ай бұрын
Not just in Australia, sadly. The ridiculous ‘Queer Theory’ indoctrination, which originated in the USA, has spread to/been embraced by developed countries, worldwide.
@MarthaAnthony
@MarthaAnthony 3 ай бұрын
And "gender" is neither observable or falsifiable/ provable. So this is all on someone's word, not facts. How on earth can this go to court, where evidence is meant to count for something? Is I say I am Napolean, am I?
@deborahbovino
@deborahbovino 3 ай бұрын
I cannot believe the media is not talking, writing about this in Australia. I’m emailing them all tomorrow. Let’s see if 2GB will discuss this.
@willowmallow
@willowmallow 3 ай бұрын
Sall is a legend. More power to her.
@kimj5037
@kimj5037 3 ай бұрын
'Gender ideology is a men's rights movement'. That sums up all this craziness perfectly!
@weallmakechoices7456
@weallmakechoices7456 3 ай бұрын
I'm old enough to remember that for many years women demanded entry into men only spaces - men's clubs, etc in the quest for 'equality' This set an unhealthy strident tone. I never thought this was a good idea. Men need their own spaces as do women. Equality of rights does not mean trampling on differences. Women are different from men, yet confused equality with uniformity. Women should have stayed out of men's places and protected their own, instead of straying into the murky waters of social engineering. Unfortunately the chickens are coming home to roost. You can't have it both ways. Ps I'm a woman.
@Libertariun
@Libertariun 3 ай бұрын
There is much more to the craziness sweeping across the west than the gender nonsense.
@1oriss
@1oriss 3 ай бұрын
​@@weallmakechoices7456Man here, it's not a man's rights movement. I have no desire to entre women's space's. So they are not fighting on my behalf. I wonder however if this woman would fight for my right to open a mens only social club. Sometimes men just like to get together and chew the fat with other men.
@radman8321
@radman8321 3 ай бұрын
@@weallmakechoices7456 Amen,
@purpledahlia1969
@purpledahlia1969 3 ай бұрын
@@weallmakechoices7456 i agree men should have their own spaces, but think carefully about this. The two situations are not comparable. Women were not seeking admission to places where men were vulnerable - where they were naked, to their changing rooms, to their hospital wards, to their hostels, to prisons etc. Much (not all I admit) were to places that were the sources of power and where decisions were being made, often quietly and behind closed doors, by one half of the population but that affected 100% of the population. People don't talk about 'smoke-filled room' for nothing. Exclusion was a secondary way of disenfranchising women, even if that was not the original intention. If women had complied with what you suggest, we would still not have the vote because the House of Commons was the biggest male-only club of all.
@ThePontiacBandit911
@ThePontiacBandit911 3 ай бұрын
I’ve got a horrible feeling that he’s going to withdraw the claim on the first day of the hearing. He’ll happily put Sall through this nightmarish ordeal, because it’s not costing him a cent. He even got a $50k grant from the government. I couldn’t loathe him more.
@clovermark39
@clovermark39 3 ай бұрын
He would probably have to go the full thing to get the grant.
@ThePontiacBandit911
@ThePontiacBandit911 3 ай бұрын
@@clovermark39 Oh, right. I didn’t know that. Thank you. 👍🏻
@caroline-brisbane8577
@caroline-brisbane8577 3 ай бұрын
Unbelievable, I didn't realise that. 😮
@zeej80
@zeej80 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely not! He absolutely will take this thru all the way! There’s no limit to how far a man will take things when they think they’re right.
@caroline-brisbane8577
@caroline-brisbane8577 3 ай бұрын
I think the powers that b, will encourage Tickle to go to Court. They want a legal ruling to ram home the agenda. It needs to be stopped. Also, a $50k grant from the government, that's unconscionable.
@JP-rv6hg
@JP-rv6hg 3 ай бұрын
Are we living in a parallel Universe? I'm just speechless! Why have our politicians legislated this madness!
@moniquejones2202
@moniquejones2202 3 ай бұрын
You go for it Sall.!! I have a granddaughter and I would be horrified if she has to put up with this ridiculous nonsense in her gym changing room. Do it for our girls as well as us ladies
@rolypoky
@rolypoky 3 ай бұрын
Women should have their own spaces just like men should be allowed their own spaces as well.
@violettownmicroenterprises1528
@violettownmicroenterprises1528 3 ай бұрын
Men have A L W A Y S had their own spaces
@rolypoky
@rolypoky 3 ай бұрын
@@violettownmicroenterprises1528 There are no men only gyms like Fernwood, museum in Tasmania that has a women only section, Scouts had to start accepting girls but not the Girl guides, Boys schools here in Sydney being pressured or forced to go coed but no girls schools getting the same treatment. What men only spaces can you list?
@jeffreysmith236
@jeffreysmith236 3 ай бұрын
​@@violettownmicroenterprises1528we most certainly do not. 60 years ago feminists demanded access to every men only space, and they got it. And now you demand that which you stole from us. No.
@MissSpookyMooky
@MissSpookyMooky 3 ай бұрын
​@@rolypokyonly in this crazy day and age. For most of history our spaces were separate for good reason.
@tearsofjoyforallthispain
@tearsofjoyforallthispain 3 ай бұрын
Wait, so men's spaces are just within the last little bit being turned into not just for men spaces, means men's spaces haven't always been a thing?? It means women shouldn't be allowed women only spaces, because men don't want to fight for their own spaces? In case you don't realize this, men are far stronger than women physically and can very easily not allow women into men only spaces. Women literally can't stop men from doing anything without a lot of other women or weapons. Men should start standing up for themselves, instead of just bitching and saying "everything is women's fault". Take some accountability for leading society to this point.
@neepers22
@neepers22 4 ай бұрын
So glad you got to speak to the epic Julie Bindal, Sall. I've watched all your interviews since you came over, and I think this was my favourite. I'm so grateful for what you are doing.
@Subcomandante73
@Subcomandante73 3 ай бұрын
This madness has to stop. Women need to stand together and vote together to reclaim their collective rights.
@Nico5890
@Nico5890 3 ай бұрын
Wishing victory to Sall Grover. She is on the front lines in defense of all of us, and I do not take it for granted. Love and solidarity
@sampa294
@sampa294 4 ай бұрын
We hope you win this Sall. Doing a great job.
@owensclock
@owensclock 3 ай бұрын
What is even more beyond clown world crazy is that a TINY minority of people have , in a very short time, been THIS successful in reordering society in their image and likeness. Good luck Sall!
@blordo
@blordo 3 ай бұрын
They have been at it in the shadows for much longer than it has been a generally visible issue
@Libertariun
@Libertariun 3 ай бұрын
Thank the craven media and cowardly governments in the west for that.
@violettownmicroenterprises1528
@violettownmicroenterprises1528 3 ай бұрын
bingo... question is... who facilliated their power and rise ??
@Madonnalitta1
@Madonnalitta1 3 ай бұрын
That's how you know that it's a top down movement, not a grass roots one. But why...
@Madonnalitta1
@Madonnalitta1 3 ай бұрын
...transhumanism.
@leewatson2102
@leewatson2102 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant interview. Sally you are amazing you truly are, women have lot to thank you for. And the comment about the lack of coverage in the Australian media is spot on; I've heard nothing on any media space about this
@nicoledeloncrais5940
@nicoledeloncrais5940 3 ай бұрын
It's called personal safety on sooooo many levels. And our spaces are always being violated by men on some level or another. Same old historical issue only it's presenting differently. And thank you ladies for your efforts & love ❤️
@RichardDavies-pf4dd
@RichardDavies-pf4dd 4 ай бұрын
Support this woman.
@Messier45_Pleiades
@Messier45_Pleiades 4 ай бұрын
Donate to her Give Send Go.
@incurableromantic4006
@incurableromantic4006 3 ай бұрын
Why? She's a radical feminist - she *created* and imposed the woke ideology that she's now complaining about.
@beebobox
@beebobox 3 ай бұрын
No I support her with thoughts and prayers.
@giantgirl1525
@giantgirl1525 4 ай бұрын
Amazing interview. Thank you, Julie Blindel for raising awareness of this tremendously important case. The Australian media are ignoring or refusing coverage.
@blordo
@blordo 3 ай бұрын
Aust MSM or any mainstream politician wont touch this issue.
@brunumb4914
@brunumb4914 3 ай бұрын
🙋‍♂ They know it's bs but they are gutless wonders only concerned for their own skins.
@Libertariun
@Libertariun 3 ай бұрын
The current generations working in the media have destroyed journalism.
@laurenavaneale1364
@laurenavaneale1364 3 ай бұрын
As an actual woman, not a man saying I’m one - I thank these woman
@hiromilong
@hiromilong 3 ай бұрын
I can only hope you will win! For all parents with daughters who fear for the future reality of our daughters's rights!
@PaulRoneClarke
@PaulRoneClarke 3 ай бұрын
I hope everyone realises that almost all men, of every nationality, religion, race and culture. Support women in this. We are pandering to at most 2% of the population. Taking women's rights back 80 years because of 2% of the population
@juliacheetham2734
@juliacheetham2734 3 ай бұрын
Many of the comments on this thread suggest otherwise, unfortunately but thanks for your support.
@PaulRoneClarke
@PaulRoneClarke 3 ай бұрын
@@juliacheetham2734 I see your point. So I did a deep dive, I've looked at 901 replies (at that point KZfaq would not let me scroll any further for some reason) 705 supporting her. 175 were none specific (usually someone trying to be funny and not committing to either side of the argument) 21 in support of men in women's areas. I'm heartened by that. But 21 is 21 too many. so I take your point. I can say that those 21 are near the top because they get the most comments on them - so the KZfaq algorithm keeps pushing them back up as they are getting the most engagement. The long comment threads on them are people arguing with the OP of the trans supporting post - telling the OP that they are wrong A quick look at just the first few dozen replies does not reveal the true levels of support. Again though. I'm shocked that anyone can support such an unfair and clearly manipulative transgression into women's spaces. We will win this one on the long term. I'm sure of it. Good luck:)
@madelinebock6469
@madelinebock6469 3 ай бұрын
The 2% is actually too generous.
@juliacheetham2734
@juliacheetham2734 3 ай бұрын
@@PaulRoneClarke Again, thanks for being one of the good guys. X
@ribbonsofnight
@ribbonsofnight 3 ай бұрын
@@juliacheetham2734 The men and women who don't support this are a bit more common than 2% but they are loud enough to have a lot of people scared to various extents. It has got to the point where a lot of people just go with their political tribe without thinking.
@angelagreen242
@angelagreen242 4 ай бұрын
Two fantastic, strong adult human females. Love you both ❤️
@noradc
@noradc 3 ай бұрын
Two great women having a great conversation about a great cause. Thank you both!
@reggrunow1460
@reggrunow1460 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully Sal wins the case. She should be our next Australian of the Year for services to Women.
@TheLydiaR
@TheLydiaR 3 ай бұрын
The fact that predatory men will take advantage if they can doesn't seem to occur to them.
@Madonnalitta1
@Madonnalitta1 3 ай бұрын
They're all predators (not men, but the ones calling themselves women).
@zgobermn6895
@zgobermn6895 4 ай бұрын
Save women's space, save children!
@zzzzoot
@zzzzoot 24 күн бұрын
Such an important conversation, thank you to both these women.
@lambrosbagatelas35
@lambrosbagatelas35 3 ай бұрын
As a father of 3 (both suns and daughter) I stand behind both of you 100%. Equality is respecting equally both sexes. It is not trying to make them the same.
@VictoriaH801
@VictoriaH801 3 ай бұрын
Brilliant interview, Julie! Endless gratitude to Sall for doing this for all women, everywhere. Thank you!
@Libertariun
@Libertariun 3 ай бұрын
She’s also standing up for common sense.
@ThePontiacBandit911
@ThePontiacBandit911 4 ай бұрын
I love this Aussie goddess. 🇦🇺
@janeedwards6012
@janeedwards6012 3 ай бұрын
Go Sall!! I totally agree with you.
@katespellxx9529
@katespellxx9529 3 ай бұрын
Great chat. Thanks Julie, Good on you Sall.
@justintcb5189
@justintcb5189 3 ай бұрын
I've never understood why trans rights is even included in the LGBT movement - since one is about sexuality and the other about identity. The two are not mutually exclusive.
@lisac1619
@lisac1619 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, it's like the queers for Palestine lot. One cancels out the other
@elizabethwhite1068
@elizabethwhite1068 3 ай бұрын
They actually ARE mutually exclusive. We cannot coexist as one big happy "community" when they're erasing our language and taking away our gay/lesbian spaces, both online and irl. But they attached themselves to us because they knew they couldn't just come out publicly with their ideology and demands, they needed a Trojan horse. They used the words inclusive, community and diversity as a 3 legged stool to beat us into submission with, and took control of our organizations, language and spaces. For example, GLAAD has, in their latest media style guide, said people shouldn't use "homosexual" anymore because "it's out of date and offensive". They only want language that has no definition. They push umbrella terms that can mean whatever they want it to. And they're trying to turn words that do have specific definitions into umbrella terms. Our needs and goals are completely opposed. Especially when they call us bigots and transphobes for being same SEX attracted, not "same gender". They're against straight people being solely opposite sex attracted as well, but they have to conquer us first and they know it. But hetero hairy men in dresses who demand we call them "lesbians", who coerce young lesbians into sex, are not going to win this.
@kathrynfuller596
@kathrynfuller596 3 ай бұрын
This is one reason why the LGB Alliance (UK) was formed. LGB without the T.
@kevoreilly6557
@kevoreilly6557 3 ай бұрын
LGB “T” …
@56redgreen
@56redgreen 3 ай бұрын
In the book "Material Girls" by Kathleen Stock, the author says that the LGB community supported T and the current definition of gender to show that biological determination did not exist, there is now some regret. Highly recommend the book if you want to understand what is happening.
@nahmate7331
@nahmate7331 4 ай бұрын
"I'm not backing down" love it.
@obinwataje
@obinwataje 3 ай бұрын
Great interview with Julie Bindel and Sall Grover. I enjoyed hearing Sall's story as a tale of resistance.
@DivaClariceWilliams
@DivaClariceWilliams 3 ай бұрын
The arrogance,spite and self entitlement is off the scale and such a male attitude no matter how they identify.
@lynnemaclean7201
@lynnemaclean7201 3 ай бұрын
🇦🇺 🇬🇧 Support - this is such a hugely important case. Every $5 or $10 etc counts. I’m on an Australian pension and I have foregone the cost of a meal, twice, in order to donate $10. Easy to do and every little bit helps. All the best to Sall a strong woman
@florenceellis214
@florenceellis214 4 ай бұрын
Go Sall! Watching the numbers click upward as I listen. Hope this goes viral!
@Violet._.PhoeniX
@Violet._.PhoeniX 3 ай бұрын
You need to share the video to everyone you know
@theMermaidRhonda
@theMermaidRhonda 3 ай бұрын
Funny how you never hear about trans men demanding to be in men's spaces and the screaming it's discrimination when they're told no.
@vamvam7690
@vamvam7690 3 ай бұрын
Which is weird because females are generally the ones who do that. Maybe this is one instance where transwomen _are_ actually similar to biological women 🤔
@kvasir8931
@kvasir8931 3 ай бұрын
There are no mens spaces, Women took them away.
@thecrankedamps
@thecrankedamps 3 ай бұрын
Could you imagine the outrage if there was "man only" social network 😂😂😂😂
@cathyg7767
@cathyg7767 4 ай бұрын
What a strong woman. Thank you
@STEVEBINNION1
@STEVEBINNION1 4 ай бұрын
You have to win this ... much love ❤
@DrNigel-Comedy
@DrNigel-Comedy 3 ай бұрын
Due to American audiences blurring the line between sex & gender, due to their puritanical discomfort with the word sex, as Sall Grover and Julie Bindel begin discussing at 24:15, and others claiming that sex is non binary, when I do my presentations, I've taken to using the terms Genetic Gender (GG) and Gender Identity (GI). I explain that Genetic Genders are biological facts (XY & XX) while Gender Identities are based on feelings, which are highly subjective. While you can feel like GI Joe, GI Jane or GI whatever, your feelings do not change your chromosomes. The fact that this is up for debate is ridiculous. Good luck to you on your legal battle.
@ArtandDiamondsWithEskies
@ArtandDiamondsWithEskies 3 ай бұрын
This whole thing that is being done to women is horrific. I am an American woman and we are facing so much coming toward us it's terrifying just as you in the UK and Australia are. I am very blessed that my husband and my son would never and will never be supportive of removing the rights and protections afforded two women that women fought so hard for.
@bucketree
@bucketree 4 ай бұрын
Kia ora from a kiwi feminist, am so glad you are doing this, kia kaha, stand strong ❤❤❤
@johnthedespicabledutchman7406
@johnthedespicabledutchman7406 4 ай бұрын
Question for you Miss Kiwi Feminist what would Feminists and the Feminist movement do if a group of men tried to set up any form or club just for men...???
@AmanitaWoodrose
@AmanitaWoodrose 4 ай бұрын
@johnthedespicabledutchman7406 you mean like the masons?
@rottsandspots
@rottsandspots 4 ай бұрын
If a woman, by virtue of wearing trousers and having short hair, said she identified as a man and demanded to join the masons, I don't think she'd get very far. Except women don't want to invade men's spaces. Perhaps 30 years ago feminists did want access to the facilities enjoyed by men and men only - such as golf clubs. Now that woman commonly have equal access to golf clubs, they don't want to force their way onto men only days, just as men don't want to force their way onto woman only days. It was never about being angry at being excluded, it WAS about having no way to play golf. Most people of both sexes enjoy spending time with their own sex. There's nothing wrong with this
@johnthedespicabledutchman7406
@johnthedespicabledutchman7406 3 ай бұрын
@@AmanitaWoodrose Nope, I refuse to have anything to do with a 'cult',...I am talking about Men's only gyms, men's only clubs...etc...etc...
@angelawest9759
@angelawest9759 3 ай бұрын
Another kiwi feminist here and I 💯 support male only groups. Don’t confuse the issues here the main one being that in days gone by women used to be excluded from most of public life which is why women had a problem with it. ​​⁠@@johnthedespicabledutchman7406
@djlow2398
@djlow2398 3 ай бұрын
They should be called the Selective Human Rights Commision, because they don't seem to mind stomping on some people's human rights if it suits their ideology.
@Locutus
@Locutus 3 ай бұрын
As a man, I don't have a problem with female only spaces and services, providing the same is available to men, including transmen.
@barneyboy2008
@barneyboy2008 3 ай бұрын
The irony is that feminism pushes back against this.
@deannacrownover3
@deannacrownover3 3 ай бұрын
You know what's crazy? I remember a time when women were protesting not being able to get into men's clubs. Here in the US, women took it all the way to the supreme Court and, the supreme Court decided that men could not have exclusive clubs, as it was a civil rights violation. Now the tables have turned. The only difference is, instead of men's havens being destroyed, women's actual safety is now at risk.
@deannacrownover3
@deannacrownover3 3 ай бұрын
@@user-fu6ql2yg5w Oh yessir. I've been married for thirty two years now. I'm no feminist!
@deannacrownover3
@deannacrownover3 3 ай бұрын
@@user-fu6ql2yg5w Thank you good Sir!
@alasdairwatson712
@alasdairwatson712 4 ай бұрын
My wife had our first child when she was 38 and she was called “a senile primagravida”. They have got to change these terms.
@scotswumin5502
@scotswumin5502 4 ай бұрын
Wow.....senile!! Apparently geriatric is less common replaced with 'advanced maternal age.
@mp5249
@mp5249 4 ай бұрын
Senile! Ha! That's medically incorrect. They are quite determined to insult and degrade women as much as possible.
@patriciasanderson2171
@patriciasanderson2171 4 ай бұрын
My friend was considered “geriatric” at 34 .
@davidadiwego4608
@davidadiwego4608 4 ай бұрын
changing terms to suit feelings about lifestyles. where have I heard that before 🤔
@davidadiwego4608
@davidadiwego4608 4 ай бұрын
@@patriciasanderson2171 Geriatric. from Greek gēras (‘old age’). 34 is, medically, an old age for pregnancy.
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