Student’s First Time Doing Power On Stall Goes Wrong

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Rich Rafferty

Жыл бұрын

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@jaredkelly930 Жыл бұрын

Actually that was a great learning experience for your student.

@vancebelchamber1951 Жыл бұрын

This guy is a very good instructor explaining the way he does

@FullSendPrecision Жыл бұрын

I love how happy she is that it almost spun, and not terrified. Will be a great pilot.

@wwill2516 Жыл бұрын

Yep, that is what made me decide, nope not for me. Just happy to work on them

@MikoMuru Жыл бұрын

She probably would have been more scared if he let it get into a developed spin.

@thejackbox 9 ай бұрын

@@MikoMuruit’s not bad, you just gotta know the what why and how it happens

@thenelsonbruhs722 8 ай бұрын

@@thejackboxand how to recover

@jamiemcnay 7 ай бұрын

This student remained cool as a cucumber and laughed. She's gonna be just fine. Outstanding.

@jgreenberg 2 ай бұрын

As a Canadian instructor when this happens, I let them spin it once we're at a safe altitude. Then they get a valuable lesson on coordination!

@KTHR56 Жыл бұрын

She’ll never forget that. Great learning experience.

@josephhaas7413 Жыл бұрын

Impeccable song choice coming straight outta Pittsburgh! Nothing but love for the 412 ❤

@1izzy_marie1 5 ай бұрын

That's a patient and knowledgeable CFI right there. Reminds me of mine.

@jnb894 11 ай бұрын

Spins are part of the PPL training here in Canada. You have to start one and recover from it. It is not part of inflight exam tho, only for the CPL.

@HFL-12345 Ай бұрын

It is included in PPL exam. Maybe your examiner is just too nice

@skippynj1979 Жыл бұрын

Good lesson... Repeat and teach the student to recover on their own.. do it over and over... If the student was comfortable, I always did a full spin training lesson before I soloed the student. Was always fun.. and I felt safe my students could handle themselves in the pattern on that first solo day. I never had a student scared of stalls by the time they did their solo..

@priyaanlimbachiya2679 11 ай бұрын

can i be your student 🥹

@Jonathan_O Жыл бұрын

Been there. Scared the heck out of me first time that happened.

@judd_s5643 Жыл бұрын

Jabbing the left rudder accelerates the dropping wing (right) to generate lift. You can develop a high sink rate (with out increasing ground speed) by pulling the stick back and dance on the rudders to keep the plane from rolling.

@Jay-fv1hc Жыл бұрын

Anytime that happens, nose down and step on the uphill rudder. He’ll let go of the stick even. That opposite rudder will stop the autorotation and even bring the nose down. The rudder is the most important flight control.

@perrymaleki3653 9 ай бұрын

I can not manage the power on stall yet. Each time it gets uncoordinated. Even I have right rudder 😢😢hope I can learn it soon

@Eckehardt_ Жыл бұрын

It's all fun and games while doing power stalls wrong and then your instructor makes you coordinate the rudders during falling leaf stalls.

@JustinHuff_EOinDixie 2 ай бұрын

Hit that opposite aileron too. The brain does what the brain wants

@jmoto1963 Жыл бұрын

Ah spin recovery something i very much look forward to doing

@maxmillianleonardo5957 Жыл бұрын

failed my PPL checkride due to this, I learnt a lot since then (y) we learnt from our previous mistakes, way to go!

@gerryortiz7276 4 ай бұрын

That was smart for you to laugh like that knowing it’s not a big deal, a new student doesn’t know better and reacts off the CFI. Always keeping calm and cool helps the student relax and absorb more from the lesson. Maslows Hierarchy of needs student must feel safe before learning can begin.

@Deltiranoditodo 9 ай бұрын

"Woah !!" -goes ahead and yanks the ailerons to the left-

@fiero880 Жыл бұрын

Been there done that. Learned that day the rudder is your best friend. 😂

@moremiatas Жыл бұрын

I feel like explaining this maneuver is a lot like explaining drifting a car to someone whose never done it before. It sounds so ridiculously easy then you go and get behind the wheel and gloriously fail 1000 times 😅

@adamey5935 Жыл бұрын

I still can’t understand why American pilots are not required to do spins during training

@ParCBur 11 ай бұрын

its because of FAA regulations, spins aren't approved in most training planes found in the US, so the FAA won't allow spins to be taught I those planes. It is required for your commercial rating at 250 hours, though

@snoopyfix2 10 ай бұрын

It is required with CFI or CFII, can't remember which.

@adamey5935 10 ай бұрын

@@ParCBurI believe it’s not required for commercial license in the US. I’m from Canada and spin training is mandatory for PPL+CPL and is demonstrated on the CPL flight test.

@thejackbox 9 ай бұрын

It’s not required but I doubt any of us American pilots make it all the way through training without at least an incipient spin/recovery. I for sure got good at them and even impressed my DPE with rudder skills during my checkride while demonstrating power on stalls.

@broncobart4354 7 ай бұрын

don’t forget counter thrust, torque and gyroscopic precession

@jmax8692 2 ай бұрын

Good for student but instead of woa you need to say my controls. This cannot be stressed enough you didn’t immediately declare command and you couldn’t be an airline pilot without doing so. Just a tip

@sinanhuang8261 11 ай бұрын

That happened to me except my cfi let me corrected it with rudder. I jammed the left rudder and properly sent the plane into a spin which my CFI took us out of. The lesson here is that in the US of the right wing is down from a power on stall, your engine will produce the yaw to prevent the spin. All you gotta to do is dip the nose.

@emt8756 Жыл бұрын

Great learning! Great instructor

@LinedFury Жыл бұрын

jesus she's beautiful

@mixmusic6517 Жыл бұрын

that's what happened to me and my instructor today lol

@mannyquin9192 Жыл бұрын

When I did that for the first time, it was fun and terrifying at the same time.

@JANSclips 11 ай бұрын

That was the laugh of fear 😂

@kammyr4082 4 ай бұрын

Hes a CFI I doubt he was scared 😂

@chrisjoe3629 11 ай бұрын

Student here: The aircraft rolled...he should have used Aileron to stabilize it right?

@mrfancypants29 6 ай бұрын

Mistakes are how you learn. Knowledge of the aerodynamics of flight will teach you what you need to know to recover from extreme situations like that.

@TeeteeForever1 Жыл бұрын

I have put my instructor in full spins definitely more than once. lol

@notapplicable4567 Жыл бұрын

in the sky not knowing the recovery: Weeeeee

@rich__rafferty Жыл бұрын

Knowing and properly performing are two very different things

@davidrush4908 Жыл бұрын

@@rich__rafferty Good job sir. The first time I performed a power on stall I could hardly remember the procedure, much less recognize and react to a wing drop. I wish your student well. She has a good instructor.

@wholelottamiata6976 Жыл бұрын

Why do you think instructors are in the plane? That’s not something you teach on the ground

@qbw8834 Жыл бұрын

He was glad that left rudder saved the day...

@lemonator8813 Жыл бұрын

Acting like it's a big deal to spin lol

@andrewcullum8437 Жыл бұрын

err how about column forward as well to reduce the angle of attack...

@aprilrosemiranda2901 10 ай бұрын

I love it

@thelastrebelshow1627 Жыл бұрын

Right rudder or spin!

@anniebaker6763 Жыл бұрын

Yes!

@marcochavez11 Жыл бұрын

While practicing power on stall, the wind was so strong and the airplane suddenly was just floating in the air, both the air speed and the aircraft speed were the same because we were flying against the wind with a very high AoA then our speed was zero. Uts, ni yo me entendí.

@bobbrown3612 Жыл бұрын

Reduce angle of attack.... Reduce angle of attack.... See FAA AIRPLANE FLYING HANDBOOK, page 5-6, figure 5-3. This is what airline pilots are now being taught for UPSET (unusual attitude) recovery. They weren't in a spin yet (PARE).

@bonanza28m61 Жыл бұрын

Putting in left aileron in this case will further aggravate the spin. You are increasing the AOA on the already stalled wing. Proper recovery would have the ailerons neutral while only using rudder to stop rotation.

@josiahbutler2254 4 ай бұрын

yea cus i thought in a spin, u need neutral ailerons, opposite rudder and then power

@loganroodt818 Жыл бұрын

He could train me 😍

@calebbyers Жыл бұрын

Just curious why you put left aileron? I know that aileron can worsen a spin situation.

@Sifo_Dyas Жыл бұрын

Did you actually watch the video?

@kazukinishimura526 Жыл бұрын

@@Sifo_Dyas love your name my lord

@carlkimball458 Жыл бұрын

Not a pilot here, but I think he was giving forward pressure on the stick to gain speed?

@Sifo_Dyas Жыл бұрын

@@carlkimball458 that would be the correct thing to do. PARE

@Sifo_Dyas Жыл бұрын

@@kazukinishimura526 Unfortunately Sifo goes down as having been the ultimate pawn in the demise of the Jedi.

@jeffstepp-ou8re Жыл бұрын

Has anyone ever floated in their Cessna? It feels so weird but fun.

@TheSergepena 2 ай бұрын

Come on, let her spin; she won't do it again. 🚫🙅‍♀️

@davidca96 6 ай бұрын

DRRRDRRRDRRRR STALL

@jacobjasch4397 Жыл бұрын

I hope she knew the recovery procedure before the flight commenced 😮.

@zackreynolds7590 Жыл бұрын

That’s why he’s there

@lemonator8813 Жыл бұрын

She's a student dude

@jacobjasch4397 Жыл бұрын

@@zackreynolds7590 You misunderstand me.. as an Flight Instructor myself, I would never commence a flight without properly briefing the student, this would include what a wing drop is and how to recover from it. Of course she learns it in the air, but it shouldn’t be news to her or she shouldn’t be surprised by it BECAUSE the instructor should have covered it in the ground brief. And he may have, I don’t know.

@MaddogMD82 Жыл бұрын

So before every flight you brief your students on every single possible eventuality and how to recover/control them?

@jacobjasch4397 Жыл бұрын

@@MaddogMD82 No, definitely not. BUT, in a stalling lesson, where a wing drop is a VERY REAL threat (TEM), it SHOULD be briefed and explained fully before flight. You’re crazy not to.

@danielgoodman3578 9 ай бұрын

I'd say if it's repeatable, do it again and have her do the recovery.

@DWCessna4130 Жыл бұрын

Slow speed is your enemy. You’ll never stall if you never get slow I don’t care what anyone says. My Cherokee 180 is at a constant 80knts on final. I’m not impressed with you guys out there gloating about landing dirty at 55knts. When you crash one day it won’t matter what your capable of flying after that point.

@WestAirAviation 8 ай бұрын

You can stall at a 90 degree nose down attitude if your AoA is beyond critical. Airspeed isn't what's important, AoA is. You can fly an entire flight with no ASI and only an AoA indicator and never stall. The opposite is not true.

@iFNhU Жыл бұрын

Should let her try so she gets the feel.

@Abhinandp-vt1oz Жыл бұрын

Nice

@joshua_jfly Жыл бұрын

Watching this gives me anxiety

@Freedom4PalestineEndZioNazism 10 ай бұрын

Do it again.

@bluemarshall6180 11 ай бұрын

Did she listen in ground schooling?

@ashtonchamblee1560 Жыл бұрын

I know you definitely peed just a little bit😂

@marcochavez11 Жыл бұрын

And farted too

@FreezeGopher1 Жыл бұрын

The instructor needs more experience. It startled him as well.

@NikeSimmons Жыл бұрын

I see what you did there with the back track 😏

@SyTrades 8 ай бұрын

she looks rizzed by your save 😂

@gotfeedback01 Жыл бұрын

PARE

@pkelly3463 Жыл бұрын

Babies teaching babies...Airmanship is at a low point these days

@gregcrisafi7374 Жыл бұрын

Practice and practice and practice and ask questions and put yourself in the situations to practice getting the aircraft in control.

@lemonator8813 Жыл бұрын

This is why I never do stalls when it gets too gusty.

@fatboi7444 Жыл бұрын

This has nothing to do with wind gusts

@lemonator8813 Жыл бұрын

@Fat Boi yeah I was just saying. This was because the student wasn't coordinated. Gusty conditions can have the same effect and you can't necessarily compensate for it.

@russellbingham7901 Жыл бұрын

It's good to also train with gusty wind just fir the experience incase it ever happens

@lemonator8813 Жыл бұрын

@@russellbingham7901 well yeah but not stalls in an aircraft not rated for spins