did you figure it out and can pass on advice? not sure what to do or get or anything lol

Hey, so my UPS only has 4 inputs so I connected whatever gear seemed the most important to me. In my case it's the interface, 2 analog preamps and an analog synth@@AnalogFlava

Great questions, how did you proceed? Working on small home studio and wondering if I should just put a conditioner on each side of the room or in some master location near the breaker that feeds all the outlets

@Ken Please respond. I’d like to know

Did you replace the whole conditioning unit? Working on a small home studio and trying to decide how to proceed…

What did you get?

@@GregoryGuay Hi Gregory, returned everything after multiple tests, and also spoke at length with the owner of Niagara. As much as I'd like to believe in this sort of thing, I think the main issues I was running into were ground issues and RF issues that aren't circumvented with units like this, no matter how expensive, no matter how many videos tell they help -- they do not.

Izotope RX , man . Record tracks separately (you'll need 4 channel interface ) and RX them until they sound clean enough.

have you tried the greenwave emi filters?

Synthesizer hardware uses a LOT less power than computers and TVs do

Hey! Even I'm looking at buying double conversion UPS... Can you tell me what results did you discover for yourself in detail? That would help me a lot in making the decision.

@@ratedrsuperstarthega hey dude, so essentially I went on /r/homelab since they have a lot of info about getting enterprise level stuff working in your home. All I can say is pay attention to what kind of electricity your house pulls from where you're from and make sure your UPS matches that. I bought one that was rated for 30 amps and my house signal only has 15, so that wasn't going to work. So yeah, just read as much as you can

@@NosralTserrof Thanks for the advice. I will surely check that. Assuming - you might have returned the one which doesn't works and bought another one, now that you have finally installed Online UPS, what changes did you notice?

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Thank you hostnik, your comment just put a huge smile on my face my friend...cause I think you get it!!! These true online ups's will make literally EVERYTHING you do sound better...in a BiG way ;-) They can be very pricy pending on your needs. I suggest adding up all the watt ratings on the gear you would have online (I personally leave all my amplifiers off the ups...they surge big power at start up and really aren't considered 'critical' so to speak). I have a ton of gear plugged into my current system and it's only rated at 1000kVA My next current model choice will be the Sola S4K2U2000-C I know it will be in service for at least 10 years, so the $2200 tag is a bit easier to stomach at $220/yr It's a tough one cause we have so much gear to consider with limited budgets, but I promise the online ups will put a big smile on your face...not to mention everything you do connect to it will function flawlessly for as many decades ;-)) So happy you found this session hostnik, cheers to you ;-) -hw

@@hiwattmarshall - haha, well I'm *trying* to get it at least. :D Thanks that makes a lot of sense. One more data point I'll have to add to my specs spreadsheet I keep for my gear. I don't think I need a $2200 one for my personal home project studio, but maybe if I ever start mixing anyone else or making any money I could. I'll check out the Solas and see what they're all about. Thanks!

Do you mean that you get noise in your audio or the ups make some noise?

Yes power "conditioners" can introduce noise. Also chances are it may be a ground loop. If the unit itself is buzzing see if turning on different lights on the same circuit changes this. This is pretty normal for UPS units to do this. Some have management software where you can lessen this effect. You can also get an isolator or unplug any PC component that is on the same line. PC power supplies are pretty bad and offer no protection against the 60Hz hum. Run PC from battery or a different circuit.

@@kaislate Really? I was under the impression that one of the benefits of power conditioners is reducing the noise to almost nothing.

@@KevboKev at the high end with multi $1000 units for home theater probably, but the ones you can buy at best buy it can go either way. You can set how quickly it switches and under what states cause a switch to battery in settings of decent units. Having the fastest switching with the tightest bracket will wear out the battery quicker l, but will offer the most protection. As for the hum... You are probably going to need to trial and error a bunch of solutions. USB is a big culprit, start there... Then other things on the circuit, and finally the hardware in line you are using.

Are your audio cables balanced and proper?

Let me know if you found the answer to this question.

Go check out the Abyss Headphones channel and watch the power conditioner clip :)

I was assuming that there’s no need to put a cheaper power conditioner plugged into this unit, what did you decide to do?

Thanks for asking DigitalMiVa! I’m planning to upgrade my original Online UPS with same brand, Sola Hevi-Duty. The specific model I’m looking at is S4K2U1000C. I’ve designed my studio power into two systems, one that includes all amplifiers and self-powered monitors, and the other for everything else. Amplifiers probably use 80% of the power you’re consuming in your studio and they really don’t need the same level of protection as your DAW, hard drives and audio interface, so I recommend leaving them off your UPS. These systems get crazy expensive as you increase VA ratings so I recommend minimizing your needs by excluding amplifiers ;-) When I do loose power (just happened last week), my speakers all shut down (no big deal), and I have a very relaxed 20 minutes or so under battery power to save my work, shut down and safely power down my whole studio!

@@hiwattmarshall Thank you

@@hiwattmarshall Hey, thanks for all the info! Any lower priced options anyone can recommend for a small hobby studio situation with a laptop, a few hardware samplers, hardware effects, drum machines, interface, etc?

@@nummernein I have the m-8x2. at best it cleans the power minimally, I wouldn't get it expecting night and day results.

@@nummernein the simple power conditioner you listed isn't a double converting model so I would doubt that it cleans the power much better than an average furman.

Thanks for asking Shevy John, it’s a Sola Hevi-Duty Series 4000. I have the ‘mini-tower’, which is only rated at 700/1000 VA, but plenty of headroom with all my mission critical gear on the line (and it’s a lot!). If I ever choose to update to a current model, it will most definitely be the same brand ❤️ They have a nice rack mount unit I’ve been eyeing…somewhere around $2k, with a bit more VA (maybe around 1500 if I recall?) ***important*** These units have loud fans, and must be remotely located!!! Think of them like a server…best located in a remote location. I have mine two rooms away, with the output hard wired to mains on my studio floor (done to code by electrician 👍🏻). I promise you this will be one of your best long term studio investments, because everything you do simply sounds better…and your gear will return the love with years of maintenance free service. This has been my own personal experience (I’m knocking on wood haha)! Thanks for sharing here Shevy, I appreciate it big time 🤟🏻🙏 -hw

@@hiwattmarshall thank you for the reply I’ve been researching for a good power supply for my gears I do mainly mixing and now mastering.. One of my interface which is the discrete 8 sc came with a.Walwart I upgraded to the sbooster mk I was blown away how better the interface sound (better lows Mids and highs ) now I will research the sola as I’m currently using more gears like the ssl,burl,api, and lynx hilo.

So awesome, thanks again Shevy 🤟🏻 Power is far more important than most of us even know, and it takes discipline to invest in it, when we have SO MUCH gear to be excited about haha!!! Dropping a couple grand on something you don’t even see…but wow it makes all the difference. I appreciate you sharing your experience just upgrading a single ps, brilliant 👍🏻❤️ Cheers, hw

He explained that it converts AC to DC to clean AC so that apparently is much more reliable and different than the cheaper power conditioners that protect EMI with king truly being ‘online’. Just learning about this myself but I think Ken pointed that out.

Great question Fabio, thank you for sharing here my friend 🙏. In my current setup, I had an electrician wire the output of my UPS from my basement to my studio, allowing me to run the UPS 24/7…highly recommended! My last setup down in LA was in a guest house, so I used a hole saw to punch through the wall into the bathroom haha! I could still hear it in the studio, but at a much reduced level. Also, I once jammed it in the crawl space of a little rental cottage, and just used a long extension cord to reach my studio in the loft ;-) Definitely MUST remove these units from your work environment 😆🤟🏻 Thanks again Fabio, have an awesome day! -hw

@@hiwattmarshall thank you Ken! Have a nice day you too

So did you finally add the online UPS to your studio rack? Can you tell me the results in detail? I'm looking to buy one for myself. Want to hear from you what differences did you notice?

@@ratedrsuperstarthega I was afraid to do anything to the studio while in the middle of the last two albums so not that we just wrapped the latest one, I will be planning to make the change in the next month or so... ill keep you posted. I am really interested to see if cuts out any unwanted noise.

@@spankthenun Yes sure, I'd definitely like to hear your test results. All the best for your project. What type of noise are you experiencing in your studio? Are you getting noise in Computer or some other studio equipment (can you mention what equipment is acting weird? ) ? Thank You!

Yes sir. I am super interested in this. I am thinking to buy a double conversion online UPS for my audio system and computer. Please elaborate your experience and knowledge about it, so I can make a better decision. Thank You!

Are you suggesting that product is overrated? The conditioned AC power is not. “very smooth”? It must be “smoother” than the original AC, whatever that means scientifically?