The cartoon car mode is fantastic, love it!

I like the SS86, but I do find that car mode to be too square. I'll definitely be taking some sandpaper and rounding him out. (Also painting the windows blue to match the other recent release G1 team.)

So it's just a smidge taller than the Netflix Bee. Honestly, it looks in better proportion regardless of height.

Considering the size and lack if accessories with ss86, hasbro really should have polished both modes up, a joint to tuck the wheels inside for robot mode would have helped... Blue paint instead of black for the windows should help it go with the rest if the ss86 line up. The behicle mode has gone mire for original toy accuracy in opposed to the screen accuracy which defeats the point if the SS86 line all together. This is really a disappointment in all. I doubt that hasbro will ever make an accurate bumblebee because they know we'll always buy the next figure they bring out until they do

Yeah I’ve not got a modern Bumblebee so this might be the one for me eventually, thanks bud.

Both are great but I really like the G1 Minibot vehicle mode for the Studio Series 86 even though it looks like Bumper and hands down it has the better robot mode.

I prefer the SS86 Bumblebee.26K subscribers and growing!

Honestly, the mold in vehicle mode is on par with the cartoon model. I’m all for the VW design, but this really is a decent model. The robot mode is SPOT ON!!!!! If you don’t on the Netflix version already this should be MUST BUY! $100 + for the Netflix one is just not worth it.

Thanks for doing the transformation side by side. Indeed smart designs for both versions. I feel like many folks including me would end up double dipping and buying both figures, and display the SS one in robot mode while doing the WFC one in car mode. Hasbro truly hurts our wallets 😭 It is fun though to see the same character being interpreted in different ways.

This doesn't need the VW licence because Bumblebee was never a VW in G1. So Im glad we finally git a Bumblebee that looks like Bumblebee, transforms like Bumblebee, has Bumblebees weapons, has good proportions, and isnt ruined by unnecessary mandatory partsfoming

Okay the SS86 version wins hands down in terms of animation accuracy (which I vastly prefer) the robot mode is pretty much spot on to his animated model. The only inaccuracy I can find is the wheels being on the side of his feet which are supposed to tuck underneath his feet like the animated model. The Alt mode is Spot on for the SS86 figure as it looks like his alt mode in the animation, which they had to make smaller and squat because, they never had the license to make bumblebee an official beetle. That being said when you look at the animation of his alt mode you can tell it’s clearly meant to be a beetle. As for people saying the Netflix bumblebee looks far more like a VW beetle I’m afraid you are incorrect. It is almost there but not quite. It’s too long to be a Beetle and the beetle has a very distinct and iconic shape. But it’s very close. Xx

MP21 will always be my definitive G1 Bumblebee.

I would be tempted to buy SS86 for the robot mode, it does look great... but I would worry it might encourage them to ruin more vehicle modes in the future with the microchange holdover...the minibots already have their vehicles consistantly gimped as it is without it going full chibi-chubby like this

Is the chest window on the 86 Bee a pinned part? It looks like that was designed to be easily swap-able with a more round part if they do get the VW license later. The 86 Bee having the "deformed" vehicle mode does look better to me, more accurate to the original toy and cartoon model (not everything has to be super realistic). I hope a Cliffjumper is made from this mold also.

The Netflix mold works better as Goldbug, this new 86 mold feels more in line as a tune accurate Bumblebee. The colors also feel more reminiscent of the pretender version which i like a lot

I like this Bee, but I wish they painted the windows blue rather than black.

I like the look of the 86 series. Looks like the G1 just a little more boxier, but still has that nostalgic look/feel to it. But I remember when you didn't need an engineering degree just to transform them 😂😂😂

My only wish would be to have the 86 head on the Netflix figure. That would be the perfect bee to me.

I dont really like ss bumblebees wonky vehicle mode so i gotta go with the Netflix

Thanks for taking the time to do this! The more I see of the 86 the more I like it. A bit of a weird question, but do you know the weight of the 86? (I honestly don't mind smaller figures if the *mass* for the class feels right, like with 86 ironhide).

Vehicle mode is absolutely awful, but the robot mode is pretty good(far better than Netflix Bee when put side by side). Will probably display him robot mode and find something for his alt mode like KBB Hornets Agent(which really, really highlights just how far off-model it is).

I guess it’s more like Netflix Bumblebee is a realistic looking G1 Bumblebee and the SS86 Bumblebee is the cartoon accurate

I’m so excited to get my ss 86 bee this weekend

Frankly regarding screen accuracy to G1 I am ambivalent, on one hand I like having toys that actually look like the old cartoon on the other there are characters whose design used a lot of cheats to achieve that look and also were wildly inconsistent to boot. I like better how Netflix Bee looks, the penny racer aesthetic is really noticeable on some minibots more than others and Bee is one of them and it doesn't quite mesh with the other generations like the realistic alt mode does. I'm frankly regretful of not getting Cliffjumper as well when I could.

looking back at the old cartoon Bumblebee did have a more VW appearance in the rear of the car mode around the rear side windows and taillights it does look like all they would need to do is change the front end and head sculpt to make it look like Bumblejumper/Bumper. I've got the Netflix and Buzzworthy creatures 4 pack gold bug so I might pick up SS 86 to go with them.

wow that was quick

I'm hyped for this SS86 Bumblebee! Great review, Russ!

They are both nice in their own ways (all of them actually) but they are still eclipsed by the MagicSquare Bumblebee for G1 'toon accuracy.

Studio series Bee and Netflix Bee are two separate characters, one was just based off the other. Netflix bee has a completely different backstory and attitude then 86 Bee. You change a characters backstory and you change the character. 86 Megatron is a different character then modern Megatron cause he lacks the D-16 backstory. Archivist Orion Pax is completely different from Dock Work Orion Pax thereby becoming different Optimus Primes. Archivist based Optimus was more standoffish and by the book whilst Dock worker based Optimus hung out with his men. One was Picard whilst the other was Kirk.

It looks like they were going for toy accuracy on the vehicle mode.

86 Bumblebee is the BEST version of him ever made thus far. I hate trying to take off Netflix's Bee's back end when transforming it into robot mode. Those damn pegs are hard as hell to pull out of his hands. Plus he's not screen accurate and a PARTS-FORMER!👎🏽 I WILL trash it once the definitive 86 Bee is in my hand. NOW GIVE US A TRUE 86 CLIFFJUMPER SO WE CAN TRASH THAT EARTHRISE/ BUZZWORTHY 86 GARBAGE!👍👍💯

The masterpiece KO of takara bumblebee 2.0 is the best bumblebee for the price.

Studios 86 is the most accurate Bumblebee so far. Im surprised they didnt went with the silver or blue windows and instead went with the toy color instead.

This version of Bumblebee is the perfect one for me since in my mind I never thought of his alt mode in the OG series to be a perfect VW Beetle.

I think the SS86 version is successful in what it's intended to be, and i like it. I only wish the roof blended in more smoothly.

Very nice review Russ I enjoy your videos. I have to say that I think they both are very good representations and I don’t mind that the Netflix version one has the parts forming. They seem to have tried hard with this figure with each release.

netflix would have been perfect if not for the partsforming

I just want a G1 styles bee that's available in my area. So I think this one might be the one I got for.

Since we have to be nitpicky, I will point out one thing, the neck collar on the SS 86 Bumble Bee is a "fo part" since it is not really the rear window of the car, since that part ends up on his back. The original toy and cartoon series had the rear window become his neck collar. So to me it comes down whether you want parts forming or fake parts plus no parts forming. Cannot deny how sweet the Netflix Bumble Bee alt mode is so he tends to get my win for which one is better while the SS one is more cartoon accurate if you do not look at his back.

Very accurate review. Alt mode: Netflix Robot: SS86 Cartoon: SS86 Accessories: Netflix Partsformers: SS86 Price: SS86

Love this mold! Hopefully we also get a Cliffjumper, Hubcap, Glyph and Bugbite!

I think they took the car proportions a bit too far.

As someone who wasn't lucky enough to find the Netflix figure, I'll be very happy to get this SS version

Just take Netlix's chest, swivel around, and replace SS86's chest with it, and you'd have a practically perfect SS86 BB.

I prefer the SS86 Bee. No parts forming. Bot mode looks nicer. Pennyracer alt mode. Looks great

I have the Netflix bumblebee and im very satisfied with it. I think it looks better than the ss86 bumblebee. Only thing I don't like on Netflix bee is the color. Give him an accurate color and hes good enough

I never bought the netflix one anjd im sure as hell not paying 65 for bro, so I may pick this guy up, he looks cartoon and screen accurate so technically its a good mold

It's funny how Netflix and SS86 each have part of the MP transformation engineering. I definitely like the proportions better on Netflix. Both head sculpts are odd, but I really don't like the eyes on SS86. I'll admit there are a few bits here and there on the SS86 that I like better. The biggest one being that it doesn't partsform at all. Overall, I still like Netflix better even though they really screwed up the engineering for no really good reason. And once again having this closer look at these figures reinforces my impression that MP-21 will probably be my favorite Bee and is the clear choice for me.

Hmm, so I'm gonna assume the feet is just high enough that the wheels aren't affecting it

To me in my eyes. I always see Original Bumblebee as Volkswagen beetle alternate mode. Sure, it does mean Hasbro had to pay the license for making a toy of him. But that'd what I've been seeing him more often. I'm keeping the Netflix verison as my definitive.

Someone was saying to me, if you take Origin Bumblebee and remove the kibble on his legs and back, he's the most accurate-looking G1 Bumblebee in his Robot mode.

I have my own community now made Bumblebee vote

Absolutely prefer the new one.

Great video! Just one question… WHERE IS SWOOP!!

How did you get this so quick

But, I will say, I do want to see SS86 Cliffjumper redone this way, just for the sake of not having to flip around his chestpiece and remove the back of the car, and get an eventual Bumper and Hubcap (plus red/blue/white BB, yellow/blue CJ, teal CJ (Glyph), red Bumper, and chrome red G2 Hubcap repaints). I prefer real-world car modes if at all possible, though, to these super-deformed ones. Looking at it, I now really want a 3rd Party company to take SS86, fix the roof and back to look like a VW, and I'd buy that instead.

License or no license, the angular torso is big turn off for me. It's definitely more offensive in car mode, because it makes him look more like G1 Hubcap than Bumblebee. Might be a pass for me.

Can you do a review on the pretender bumbelbee

Netflix for me. With the upgrade kit he's also no longer a parts former. Ss86 legs look a little scrawny to me and his staircase forearms look weird to me, also his taller platform shoes look off to me. Netflix box arms, girthier legs, and lower shoes win it for me, but no doubt both are awesome.

The gamer Bumblebee reminds me of Quasi modo.

Both modes the series 86 wins, the car mode is accurate to the original toy and cartoon

Bot wise, the ss86, vehicle wise the Netflix wins. That vehicle mode for the ss86 is just ugly!

Original Masterpiece Bumblebee is still the best Bumblebee.

So where did you actually get him?

gamer bumblebee has such bad posture. Glad hasbro is doing accurate depictions of us

As a massive hater of Partsforming, i take this as a personal victory 🎉🎉 Nah, in all seriousness, the Earthrise Cliffjumper mold isn't terrible, but I'll take the new version every day in the week

Good God, that '86 car mode looks hideous.

I hope they remember to put the spoiler on Cliffjumper chest on the studio version of this when they release it

I cannot stand the Netflix figure being a partsformer but love the color and alt mode. 86 looks great in both bot and alt mode but prefer the Netflix's alt mode and color better. I don't like the painted windows. I prefer clear windows. Still, looks great because it looks like an updated G1 toy.

This just looks like garbage. He turns into a clown car, and is only slightly bigger than a Legends class figure. He makes 2006 Bumblebee look huge.... I'm sorry, but G1 Bumblebee's design needs to stay in the 80's, because Hasbro keeps fumbling it. Good review, man, bad toy.

If u get the upgrade piece for the Netflix bee it's a perfect bumblebee I think the 86 looks bad