How America RUINED the world's screws! (Robertson vs. Phillips)

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Stumpy Nubs

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2 ай бұрын

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@StumpyNubs
@StumpyNubs Ай бұрын
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@billshorter666
@billshorter666 Ай бұрын
Have you ever used a Prince Reed screwdriver?
@nickdisney3D
@nickdisney3D Ай бұрын
you do good work in these videos. subscribed. thanks for not being AI.
@scottmorris4914
@scottmorris4914 Ай бұрын
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@jfawnst
@jfawnst Ай бұрын
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@larryh.4629
@larryh.4629 Ай бұрын
You do a good job . I too hate the Phillips head but what were my choices as an American a flat head. Uhhh. Then I started buying kits that included square head Robertson about time something that works. Canada ya got it right aye.
@PaulRSmileyOyen
@PaulRSmileyOyen Ай бұрын
We ought to start a rumor that the Torx drive was invented by Peter Tork, who simply wanted users to stop monkeying around.
@robertpearson8798
@robertpearson8798 Ай бұрын
Hey, I’m a believer.
@cottrelr
@cottrelr Ай бұрын
Well, Mike Nesmith's mother did invent liquid paper. So it's not that far fetched.
@pariahzero
@pariahzero Ай бұрын
I'm in the "star drive" for the space age camp. (Ie. Torx by another name)
@patricknorton5788
@patricknorton5788 Ай бұрын
​@pariahzero It's difficult to find dilithium crystals to power the special driver though...
@RichardTaylor-sq8xg
@RichardTaylor-sq8xg Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@bob8mybobbob
@bob8mybobbob Ай бұрын
Don’t forget, when you use Phillips screws not only is it easy to strip the screw, you can also strip the driver. Making it more likely to strip more screws, and generally make everything harder.
@gehtdianschasau8372
@gehtdianschasau8372 24 күн бұрын
That should never happen. The tool should be made of a far superior steel. It will wear, like rock is worn down by water and diggershovels by rock, but that should take a long time. A cheap, crappy tool might get stripped by a screw.
@bob8mybobbob
@bob8mybobbob 24 күн бұрын
@@gehtdianschasau8372 considering most of my construction experience was building theatre sets in a public high school, I don't think the tools were quality. It's not like a single screw totally stripped a new drill bit, but after a full day of work the bit would already start to be visibly missing metal.
@kyle18934
@kyle18934 24 күн бұрын
​@bob8mybobbob I use Dewalt bits on using screws for fences, and sheds. if you let the head bounce out, it will still dammage your bit. so don't doubt your school construction experience. inexperienced work will destroy the strongest items. I learned this with many a stripped screw 😂
@Ay-xq7mj
@Ay-xq7mj 23 күн бұрын
If a design only works in best conditions its a shit design.
@garfstiglz3981
@garfstiglz3981 23 күн бұрын
Not if you use the correct Philips head for the screw, there are many different versions and if you use the correct head it will be so tight in the screw it won't strip.
@patlaird4188
@patlaird4188 Ай бұрын
There's a special place in hell for an engineer who calls out for a slotted screw
@reversalmushroom
@reversalmushroom Ай бұрын
What's wrong with those?
@erebus1964
@erebus1964 Ай бұрын
@@reversalmushroom They're fine if you have to restore something old in its contemporary original condition. Apart from that they're outdated because they're unsafe! The video tells it quite early at 1:18.
@johngillon6969
@johngillon6969 Ай бұрын
no simplicity is the soul of genius. in the good old days we only needed slotted screw drivers. now you have dozens of screw drivers to add to all clutter. most modern advances in technology cause mote problems than they solve!
@user-sw2nh4ll7h
@user-sw2nh4ll7h Ай бұрын
They are absolute garbage. They don't even self-center the screwdriver in the slot, making them basically impossible to use with power tools. I got several boxes of slotted screws (500 screws in each box) that I inherited that are collecting dust, I just can't use them, it's so much pain in the ass. I'm gonna "gift" them to someone else on the first opportunity.
@D3nn1s
@D3nn1s Ай бұрын
​@@johngillon6969 there are in fact at least 7 different slot sizes, combine that with at least 2 different type of slots. Also if you ever had to put more than 2 screws into anything youd know how much nicer torx is compared to slot or philips.
@Xgamer121X
@Xgamer121X Ай бұрын
All the way back in 2011, when I was just 18 years old, I got my first set of subwoofers for my first car. I made the most common rookie mistake when mounting the subwoofers into the enclosure. When I went to mount the subwoofer into the subwoofer box, the phillips screwdriver slipped off of the screw and punched a hole into my brand new subwoofer. I was very upset. My dad told me about the square head screws. He explained how it was one of his favorites because it wouldn't strip out when building decks. I ended up trying the square head screws on a new set of subwoofers. I was amazed. The fact that I could literally let go of the square head screwdriver and it just stay completely inside the face of the screw without falling off. I will never go back. Square heads (Robinson) are the best!
@swamprat69er
@swamprat69er Ай бұрын
And made and invented in Canada.
@reversalmushroom
@reversalmushroom Ай бұрын
Weird how it says there's a reply here and yet won't show it. Someone musta been shadowbanned.
@duxxxhm
@duxxxhm Ай бұрын
All the way back in 2011? Man that was last year!
@giorgos4059
@giorgos4059 Ай бұрын
Λυπάμαι πραγματικά για το ατύχημά σου. Σίγουρα όποιοι χρησιμοποιούν βίδες ph έχουν παραπάνω από μία άτυχη στιγμή. Θα έπρεπε να έβαζαν φυλακή όσους τις χρησιμοποιούν εν έτη 2024... Αλλά θα σου έλεγα ότι εάν το μεγάφωνο ήταν Ιαπωνικής προέλευσης ή σχεδίασης και χρησιμοποιούσες τις βίδες της συσκευασίας τους, μάλλον έπρεπε να δουλέψεις με κατσαβίδι "JIS".
@theTavis01
@theTavis01 Ай бұрын
@@reversalmushroom it's been a plague on youtube for years now, their autocensor bot is out of control
@n4spd396
@n4spd396 Ай бұрын
I know a carpenter who only uses torx. They are more expensive but the work goes so much faster and never a scratch from misshaps. I wish philips never existed.
@AndrewDeLong
@AndrewDeLong Ай бұрын
In the building of ANY furniture that requires screws, I exclusively use torx head screws. They just work better and faster. Once or twice, I've used Robertson heads. I won't lie, if they were more readily available in my area, I'd probably switch to them.
@taxicamel
@taxicamel Ай бұрын
Far cheaper to use Robertson with principally the same result. There might be a completely different reason for someone to use a torx. .
@Rancid-Jane
@Rancid-Jane Ай бұрын
I find Torx driver bits break easily. They can't take the torque I guess.
@Troy-McLore
@Troy-McLore Ай бұрын
@@Rancid-Jane thats the point, the tool breaks instead of the fixing
@Eric-zs6rd
@Eric-zs6rd Ай бұрын
@@Rancid-Jane If the bit breaks you can just toss it and grab another from the 10 pack you bought for 5 dollars. If the fastener strips you're likely spending 30 minutes trying to find vise grips or a drill and ez out to get it out
@ravenovatechnologies6554
@ravenovatechnologies6554 Ай бұрын
The intentional cam out of Phillips haunts my dreams like an evil villain never could. Anything is better than Phillips. Except slotted.
@Volvith
@Volvith Ай бұрын
Slot/flathead is better than philips. Philips will be dead one day, needing specialized custom-made tools for old stuff to take apart. You know what will never be dead? _A thin bar._ Flathead has historical compatibility. Philips is just bad.
@AlanTheBeast100
@AlanTheBeast100 Ай бұрын
Correction: the "accidental" cam out. Retroactively claimed to be a "feature".
@AlanTheBeast100
@AlanTheBeast100 Ай бұрын
@@Volvith Flathead (slot) is an early evolutionary step that is deservedly near extinct.
@patricknorton5788
@patricknorton5788 Ай бұрын
Hah! Well said.
@espressomatic
@espressomatic Ай бұрын
@@Volvith No one makes slotted screws in the same volume as Philips nor Square (or even Torx) today. So no, slotted isn't going to suddenly come back.
@davehopley2228
@davehopley2228 Ай бұрын
In Canada, the first thing you do when you by an American product that comes with Phillips screws ...is throw the screws away and sub Robertons. Saves a world of frustration.
@harpintn
@harpintn 2 күн бұрын
In the us you throw away the Robertons screws if you ever have to remove them.
@qoph1988
@qoph1988 Күн бұрын
Americans do this too. Iykyk
@hazynpeterson4083
@hazynpeterson4083 13 сағат бұрын
correct
@cancelhandles
@cancelhandles 41 минут бұрын
Maybe you do. We don't​@@harpintn
@davidiverson
@davidiverson 22 күн бұрын
Using a philips head on an impact driver I've had a cam-out slip that punched a deep hole into my nearby thumbnail. Hurt like hell and took months to heal. Then there's slotted - nobody likes a slotted/flathead screw EXCEPT on carburetor adjustments. It's super handy to see at a glance how far you've turned the screw when fine tuning a throttle or idle mix screw.
@ethanwasme4307
@ethanwasme4307 14 күн бұрын
true!
@rexlion4510
@rexlion4510 14 күн бұрын
Yeah, but nowadays most folks would say, "what's a carburetor?" 😂 We are the dinosaurs of this era.
@sergeantbigmac
@sergeantbigmac 8 күн бұрын
Also firearms, flathead screws look much nicer on a gunstock than anything else IMO.
@loendsti
@loendsti 8 күн бұрын
@@rexlion4510 carburetor are still used in motorcycles here in India, oh, they do meet emissions standards, costs alot lower than over rated fuel injection systems and very fuel efficient too.
@baseddoggie
@baseddoggie 4 күн бұрын
@@loendsti just about every pit bike or small ATV use them too
@paulgrimmer1233
@paulgrimmer1233 Ай бұрын
Torx are definitely nice, but as a Canadian I can say confidently that if you're using Phillips and you have Robertson as an option, you're certifiably insane!
@rioriggs3568
@rioriggs3568 Ай бұрын
100% long live the Robertson!
@mikejacobs8718
@mikejacobs8718 Ай бұрын
Philips are only really widely used in drywalling.
@64MDW
@64MDW Ай бұрын
I can say confidently that if you're Canadian, you are certifiably insane. How's that Trudeau thing going for ya?
@wannabecarguy
@wannabecarguy Ай бұрын
There is only 2 things left in the world that haven't been ruined by Canadians.
@troubledseed
@troubledseed Ай бұрын
@@wannabecarguy What? wtf you talking about.
@haroldtwilson
@haroldtwilson Ай бұрын
I race wooden outboard boats for 30 years in Canada and the USA. At one race in Canada, an American pal flipped and damaged his boat. The racing family got his boat on shore and assessed the damage, quickly determining repairs could be made in time for the next day's program. Out of nowhete came pieces of plywood, angle brackets and, of course, "red Robbie" screws. My pal was busy cutting wood to shape, happily accepting Canadian competitors' help (borders don't matter in the racing family) UNTIL the moment he was provided with a screwdriver and handful of screws. "What in *!*^? are these?", he asked. We assured him they'd do the job and as there were no Phillips or Slots to be had, he reluctantly started to use them. He went from grumbling to glee in the course of a half hour. Boat repaired, he announced he'd hit the local hardware for "some paint and stuff". The local hardware was the Canadian Tire store where he bought a can of aerosol paint... and boxes and boxes of Robertson screws and a handful of yellow, green, red and black Robertson drivers. As far as I know, that weekend in Canada changed his screw selection preferences for the rest of his career.
@Skobeloff...
@Skobeloff... Ай бұрын
and so are the days of our lives
@hairpig
@hairpig Ай бұрын
Many of us Americans understand that Robertsons are superior, or at least that Phillips screws are the absolute worst kind of screw ever invented. But Robertsons can't become my screw of choice when none of the stores here have any of them for sale. For me I've just converted to torx, since I can get those and like Robertsons they also don't cam out.
@keithmills778
@keithmills778 Ай бұрын
@@hairpig I'm about a week away from retirement. Maybe I'll supplement my pension by smuggling Robertson drivers, screws and bolts into the US.
@OctarineCode
@OctarineCode Ай бұрын
Well, screw you ​@@hairpig
@blechtic
@blechtic Ай бұрын
I have no experience with "Fitzbobs" whatsoever, but I can imagine the next guy cursing him to high hell for using them, because unless they are popular there by then, they'll probably have no equipment to deal with those screws.
@BS-vx8dg
@BS-vx8dg 18 күн бұрын
I don't believe I've ever come across your channel before, but your dry humor is definitely going to bring me back.
@scruffy3121
@scruffy3121 29 күн бұрын
As a Aircraft engine mechanic, to be clear we don't use torx at work. But I know the more contact points the better. I exclusively use torx at home and in projects that allow it. Edit: I found a couple of other departments that do in fact use torx also on engines.
@soopersooper3291
@soopersooper3291 25 күн бұрын
F-22 uses torx or improved profile or something. I have the fasteners and the NSN is for an F-22.
@GeldUndKokaine-kc1hp
@GeldUndKokaine-kc1hp 20 күн бұрын
For Boeing we use them pretty commonly in the wings
@TheMightyYak
@TheMightyYak 17 күн бұрын
@@GeldUndKokaine-kc1hp I though Boeing just used whatever they found on the floor...
@andrewdking
@andrewdking 15 күн бұрын
Torx recess fasteners have been used in the UK in aerospace for a few decades now.
@soopersooper3291
@soopersooper3291 15 күн бұрын
@@andrewdking that’s cool, I have seen them before on other titanium aircraft fasteners too, but it’s somewhat unusual from my limited perspective.
@mikefennema5561
@mikefennema5561 Ай бұрын
Canadian here. I love Robertson screws. You can place a screw on the screwdriver and it will stay in place no mater what position. Where ultimate torque is required, I must admit Torx has the advantage.
@ronblack7870
@ronblack7870 Ай бұрын
you can snap off the head on a robertson screw so i don't think you need more torque handling.
@tomroome4118
@tomroome4118 Ай бұрын
@@ronblack7870 never happened to me once in over 55 years of using them. Also, after a Philips head strips out, try to remove it!
@WmRMeyers
@WmRMeyers Ай бұрын
I'm a American and still like the Robertson or Square Head screws. Though Reed and Prince isn't all that bad.
@John_Redcorn_
@John_Redcorn_ Ай бұрын
@@ronblack7870you do when dealing with small screws but still need higher holding power of said screw. Torx shines with tiny screws (and yes, better than robertson or allen)
@sivansharma5027
@sivansharma5027 Ай бұрын
​@@ronblack7870 Yeah exactly. Torx is just the name; it does not mean it's the best for torque. I mean think about it, technically the more points something has, the closer it is to a circle. And hint, a circle is the worst geometry for a screw head haha
@ShiningDarknes
@ShiningDarknes Ай бұрын
"Brought closer to imperfection" as a person working in a shop that 90% of the time uses square drives, yeah that is an accurate way to describe the philips drive.
@Velshard
@Velshard 20 күн бұрын
Torx heads are love, Torx heads are life.
@wesdoobner7521
@wesdoobner7521 2 күн бұрын
Torx is ok, but for bigger bolts (like intake manifold bolts) I like high grade allen head bolts (same as robertson basically but a hex shape).
@Velshard
@Velshard 2 күн бұрын
@@wesdoobner7521 my problem with Allen heads comes down to the miniscule differences in dimensions between Metric and Imperial Allen heads. When some prior idiot uses the wrong size bit/key/socket, you can look forward to an hours long exercise in Frustration as a result.
@bradbyers7505
@bradbyers7505 Ай бұрын
I’m a woodturner (hobbyist) and was introduced to the Robertson screw about 35 years ago. I don’t use many, but I really like them for mounting wood to faceplates, etc. Of course I use a power screw driver with a clutch feature so I could probably get by with other configurations. God bless those who do flat work and drive screws by the thousands. Thanks for sharing this information with all of us. This one’s a keeper.
@collarandhames
@collarandhames Ай бұрын
Weighing in from Canada. As a licensed carpenter, I can say that for the most part, we only use robertson screws. If hardware comes with phillips, we often toss them and swap out the safer screw. They are so much better and safer and even given the upgrade cost on installing random things, it's a time saver.
@Thrunabulax10
@Thrunabulax10 Ай бұрын
i switched to torx screws a long time ago. the square drive ones still are prone to stripping out
@A_Person_You_Dont_Know
@A_Person_You_Dont_Know Ай бұрын
@@Thrunabulax10 Haha and torx don't? Maybe if there werent 20 sizes of torx and we didnt already have robertson but sadly nope.
@svn5994
@svn5994 Ай бұрын
@@Thrunabulax10 Torx is significantly more prone to stripping.
@yunggolem4687
@yunggolem4687 Ай бұрын
@@svn5994 I've driven thousands of unpilot holed 3.5in Torx, including building a 400sqft deck... never seen one strip. Ever. And that was while using an M18 impact on the most aggressive setting which commonly strips or snaps the heads off phillips drywall screws. I have seen 300 series stainless Robbies strip out and I have seen old Robbies driven by someone else which were on the verge of stripping after decades of corrosion, but a few taps with a hammer on the driver seated it deep enough to turn it out. Torque ratings on Torx are about 150% of Robbies or Phillips across the board, so you're either using some incredibly inferior version of Torx/Star, somehow screwing up driving them, or making stuff up. Robbies also have a penchant for sticking on the bit after getting the impact treatment, much more so than Torx or Philips. This can be a feature when using non-ferrous screws to keep them on your bit as you start the drive, but in most applications it's kind of annoying as the Robbie will sometimes steal your bit if your bit holder is getting loose.
@BritishBeachcomber
@BritishBeachcomber Ай бұрын
​@@A_Person_You_Dont_KnowTorx is best because only the right size will fit.
@willdoe7681
@willdoe7681 Ай бұрын
I have been a finish carpenter and cabinetmaker for over 50 years and the first thing we did on a job was throw all the philips screws in the garbage and replace them with Robertson. This is what kept us in business.
@robotgrass
@robotgrass Ай бұрын
Absolutely true
@malepartd
@malepartd Ай бұрын
I do the same with every wall anchor kit coming with any purchased object: throw away the anchors and Phillips screws, and use my own Robertson screws.
@eekee6034
@eekee6034 Ай бұрын
I should start doing this, but with Allen (hex) screws rather than Robertson. I'm British, and 'Allen keys' are more common than anything else except Phillips.
@jcalpha2717
@jcalpha2717 Ай бұрын
You should have collected the Phillips screws and resold them in the USA for a neat little profit.
@oldmanx1234
@oldmanx1234 Ай бұрын
@@jcalpha2717 Don't you dare!
@johncasey1020
@johncasey1020 Ай бұрын
I don't care about the content of the video, but your wonderfully organized shop kept me watching.
@shaystern2453
@shaystern2453 Ай бұрын
all for show👌
@TJWood
@TJWood Ай бұрын
I've only recently become aware of these square headed screws down here in Australia. I was impressed with them as they are far easier to drive and have a good firm grip on the driver... I had no idea of the history thinking they were something new that just hit the market. Thanks Canadians, its a clear winner.
@Player_00X
@Player_00X Ай бұрын
Fun fact, phillips head screws, when stripped, basically become robertson head screws. It's shockingly easy to remove them that way.
@keithmills778
@keithmills778 Ай бұрын
I'll often use a Robertson screwdriver on un-cammed out Philips screws/bolts.
@scottshannon3654
@scottshannon3654 Ай бұрын
I've tested this fact many times and while true, it is almost never "fun"
@Player_00X
@Player_00X Ай бұрын
@@scottshannon3654 But it is fun, it means every phillips screw is actually a robertson screw in disguise. Just gotta strip em first.
@davefellhoelter1343
@davefellhoelter1343 Ай бұрын
"I had a beater" robrtson driver, I would put into my phillip, give it a Bash, and whala ready for another try. Electricians have a version of roberston with wings like a flat screw driver with a roberston diamon in the center, works very well. Do not want slips, tools un controlled, and bashing around in a hot pannel
@fredk.2001
@fredk.2001 Ай бұрын
#3 Phillips screws also fit #2 Robertson drive tips. Edit for clarity.
@RobertFord-hx5gt
@RobertFord-hx5gt Ай бұрын
One area in America, where the Robinson screw has taken over is the decking industry. If you’re trying to drive a 3 inch screw into pressure-treated lumber it’s the only screw head design, strong enough to use with an impact driver. I wish we had these in everything.
@kurtrogers3928
@kurtrogers3928 Ай бұрын
Cargo trailers in America are screwed together with Robertson screws..
@phearns2147
@phearns2147 Ай бұрын
Travel trailers use a combination, square works best but a large Philips will do too.
@chuckschillingvideos
@chuckschillingvideos Ай бұрын
Torx beats them both.
@42Lailoken
@42Lailoken Ай бұрын
@@chuckschillingvideos I like Torx, but in my experience it's harder (ie slower) to fit into the screw vs Robinson. Also I think Robinson are cheaper
@Viennery
@Viennery Ай бұрын
Canadian screws better for lumber? There's gotta be a Lumberjack joke in there somewhere...
@leszekjaszczak1150
@leszekjaszczak1150 25 күн бұрын
I was 45 years old, doing a deck job at my house, when I finally learned how terrible Phillips screws were. Discarded them all, replaced everything with torx and the job went a lot faster and smoother. I use Robertson too, both are great solutions.
@tc2241
@tc2241 20 күн бұрын
Ima torx man. The ease of attachment like a Philips with the security of a Robertson. Unless it’s drywall then Phillips with a settler is *chefs kiss*
@Bodi2000
@Bodi2000 Ай бұрын
I worked for a Canadian company installing their large machinery all over the world, crated up with stout lumber and a plywood skin. Using all Robertson screws. Except for one panel, using Phillips. Under that was a toolbox including Robertson screwdrivers and power driver tips.
@linuxguy1199
@linuxguy1199 Ай бұрын
More companies ought to give you the tools to work on your stuff! *said while staring angrily at a box of proprietary tools that I've had to make*
@Spondre
@Spondre Ай бұрын
Many of the companies I work at have been the same. Then there was the time the new guy put the toolbox in place and no one had told him about the Phillips screws....
@n3m37h
@n3m37h Ай бұрын
Correction, that so called phillips is just a improperly made Robertson, you just need to find the right size robbie for the job, and maybe a hammer to help correct the deformation
@linuxguy1199
@linuxguy1199 Ай бұрын
@@n3m37h Works really good on stainless fasteners!
@theflyingscotsman9902
@theflyingscotsman9902 Ай бұрын
Robertson is 10 times the better socket design for turn fasteners . Phillips is only as good as the very first cut into the screw head , it tapers down to a point to where it can strip easier and easier after use . Face it , some US screw maker won't accept the fact that Robertson is even better than torx , Phillips and possibly a slot screw design .
@KB-dd9xr
@KB-dd9xr Ай бұрын
Put several hundred Robertson head screws in my deck. Drove in like a dream and when I had to dismantle it several years later I didn't have to drill even one of them out!
@scottkirby5016
@scottkirby5016 Ай бұрын
As someone who for quite a while worked with a need to put up and take down my screw fastened work I fell in love with deck screws. Square heads to drive them in (and possibly/often strip them if we were on air powered drivers) and Phillips to back them out after we were done.
@billyloper4072
@billyloper4072 Ай бұрын
This feels like classic Stumpy content and I love it.
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 Ай бұрын
I live in the uk and Ive never in my life seen or heard of a square head screw. The existence of such a thing baffles yet intrigues me
@slake9727
@slake9727 Ай бұрын
They are the best. You should get some Robertsons.
@postbusters-poundedpostfen717
@postbusters-poundedpostfen717 Ай бұрын
I buy Robertson decking screws in tubs of 1500 and use several each season. Thank goodness for Robertson screws and lithium impact drivers.❤
@lukeorlando4814
@lukeorlando4814 Ай бұрын
As a Canadian who moved to the U.K. I miss Robertson
@cofeebeing
@cofeebeing Ай бұрын
Living in Canada, its the screw of choice. Phillips have the disadvantages mentioned. Robertson by far used here.
@alaneaston3172
@alaneaston3172 Ай бұрын
Common in pocket screws
@WoLpH
@WoLpH Ай бұрын
European here, I've got several Robertson bits here but I can't say I've ever encountered those screws. Here's my experience: most quality products around here use torx, cheaper stuff uses pozi, cheaper products that are both for European and American markets use philips. Wall boxes for outlets and electrical stuff such as fuse boxes use either flathead or a combination of flathead and pozi or flathead and torx.
@Papinak2
@Papinak2 Ай бұрын
Same here, I've never seen Robertson head in my life. But I was surprised that there was no mention of pozidriv. That's been the only choice for woodworking screws until recently.
@abhibeckert
@abhibeckert Ай бұрын
This. Torx is vastly superior to Robertson. They're easier to fit to the bit due to having six correct orientations, but the real advantage is the large rounded contact patch allowing much higher torque - some torx heads are rated at 2,000 nm - the #4 Robertson head is rated for just 8 nm! It's not even close... and while you wouldn't need that much strength in a wood screw, having so much headroom translates to a driver bit that literally never wears out. I've never replaced a torx bit in my life, other than when they were lost.
@malimbar2
@malimbar2 Ай бұрын
@@abhibeckert If torx sizing made any sense, and if they weren't specifically designed to require you to buy more tools all the time, then MAYBE. But torx are arbitrary sizes, arbitrary in number of points, and randomly have security holes in the middle that are intentionally designed to screw with you. I have never taken anything off with torx and thought "oh, this was meant to be user serviceable"
@Papinak2
@Papinak2 Ай бұрын
@@malimbar2 Torx is not arbitrary, it's based off inbus head (metric Allen) - in fact, you can use Torx to loosen rounded inbus head (although it can damage the bit, if too much torque is applied). And how its sizing doesn't make any sense? Higher number=bigger head, it's not any worse than Philips sizing Electronics manufacturers putting safety Torx on everything is another thing, but atleast it's somewhat common compared to tri-wong and other proprietary heads
@larsord9139
@larsord9139 Ай бұрын
@@abhibeckert I agree, but please give me a source for torx screws in small sizes (2-56, 4-40, 6-32 with several lengths for each size. Metric m2, m3, m4 would be acceptable). And small (100 or so) quantities. Here in the US it's the same problem with finding a decent source for square, Robertson or internal hex drives screws.
@sergiotisnado545
@sergiotisnado545 15 күн бұрын
Great presentation. You are gifted at explaining things with a hint of humor.
@EricRShelton
@EricRShelton Ай бұрын
I'm not even gonna watch the video before commenting; based on the title alone I say HERESY!!! I'm a Phillips-loathing American and I hope our Canadian brethren can rescue us from this plight!
@mattymattffs
@mattymattffs Ай бұрын
Did you mean Robertson?
@skatpk9196
@skatpk9196 Ай бұрын
Robertson all the way!
@DarkTouch
@DarkTouch Ай бұрын
big fan of the square. the cross sucks.
@fxm5715
@fxm5715 Ай бұрын
Amen, brother! As a fellow American, I stand proudly by my workshop hardware bins full of Robertson screws. We Americans may have done a lot of innovative things first, but the rest of the world does a better job of learning from our mistakes and improving upon them, while we stubbornly clutch the old ways as somehow sacred.
@mrniusi11
@mrniusi11 Ай бұрын
Torx > Roberston
@SamPeabody
@SamPeabody Ай бұрын
I’m an American in a state not too far from Canada. My carpenter brother-in-law loves the square-drive screws. An added benefit he described is that unlike a Phillips, if you start to round over the bit you can just file or grind it back into shape and keep going without heading to the hardware store.
@goxilo
@goxilo Ай бұрын
That's one of my favorite things about square drive! Plus, not that I've had to do this, is the fact that you can make you own bit *from scratch* if need be, with just a grinder or file. Can't do that to replace your stripped Phillips driver!
@ColonelSandersLite
@ColonelSandersLite Ай бұрын
@@goxilo Well, if you have a steady hand, a good eye, and a dremel, you can really make any driver by hand if you need to. I have a long running habit of making oddball screwdrivers out of nails and pieces of scrapwood. I think last time it was a 6 pointed star security driver. I could have ordered a cheap chinesium driver and waited a few days for it to come, but I didn't want to wait. I could have just drilled the screw out but didn't want to risk the damage from flakes of metal getting into sensitive places.
@christopherwallaceorr6977
@christopherwallaceorr6977 Ай бұрын
I do this with Torx also. Zing it on the belt sander for 2 seconds while spinning your drill, and back to getting stuff done.
@ronkierstead
@ronkierstead Ай бұрын
Tell him to buy the Robertson bits with carbide inserts. They take ages to wear out. TASK makes and sells them in Home Depot Canada.
@PatrickBaptist
@PatrickBaptist 26 күн бұрын
Thanks for this video. First time I really had an encounter with these was when I was scrapping out a camper it had those square heads, I got so mad because I had to buy some bits because I couldn't find the ones I had that I'd never used lol, I noticed when removing them how I didn't wear out the first bit I started with and the screws were reusable. Thanks for validating what I thought, that they were better to use. I do like toque heads best though and use them most of the time these days. Sir I appreciate your videos, you are my fav wood working channel, I do a little wood working but I'm mostly a mechanic (diesel flavor).
@Bogie3855
@Bogie3855 Ай бұрын
I am Canadian and a woodworker. I have used Robertson screws all my life and have 100yr old furniture with original Robertsons still holding them together. Unlike Phillips screws, you can put a Robertson screw on the tip of you driver and wave the damn thing all over the place making it easy to feed into a pilot hole. Most of us Canadians hate Phillips screws along with slot.
@rexlion4510
@rexlion4510 14 күн бұрын
I'm a convert to Robertsons, but I'm not Canadian. Do I need to move north and start drinking Carling Black Label? 😃
@spencerjoplin2885
@spencerjoplin2885 Ай бұрын
Thank you Kreg for single-handedly popularizing #2 Robertson in the States. It’s my shop standard.
@leestuurmans2837
@leestuurmans2837 Ай бұрын
Having a shop standard is the dream! I use pockethole joinery in the cabinetry I make, and I was pretty stoked to find milescraft makes Torx t20 pockethole screws. T20 everything!
@billmorash3322
@billmorash3322 Ай бұрын
@@leestuurmans2837 Yeah, but sometimes you need two hands to guide the Torx screw into the pocket. Not so with the Robertson.
@mrniusi11
@mrniusi11 Ай бұрын
square suck.
@coolbugfacts1234
@coolbugfacts1234 Ай бұрын
Shame on Kreg for making this terrible screw design more popular. Their screws strip very easily and the bit gets stuck in the screw constantly. It's the worst screw design ever made, much worse than Phillips.
@jimdoe1694
@jimdoe1694 Ай бұрын
@@coolbugfacts1234
@tomleiningerphoto
@tomleiningerphoto Ай бұрын
My grandfather was a sewing machine repairman in the 70s through 90s. I remember him complaining about the decline in the quality of machines made in Asia. I also remember a few lectures about the evils of philips head screws. He loved slotted screws. I have one of his old long slotted screwdrivers. But I hate slotted screws.
@better.better
@better.better Ай бұрын
they have their place, the others all require the driver to be straight on or it won't stay on the head when you turn, but a flat head can turn it at an angle. unfortunately, the head always slips off the slot left or right as you turn it too which pretty much negates that one advantage 😂
@Jack42Frost
@Jack42Frost Ай бұрын
Let's not even start on Allen Keys.
@islandwills2778
@islandwills2778 Ай бұрын
the only advantage of slotted screws is that they are the one screw that can be easily removed using makeshift tools such as a butter knife.
@TAWei-hi6uv
@TAWei-hi6uv Ай бұрын
@@islandwills2778 There is one other advantage - slotted screws make the best "ting" sound as you toss them in the garbage can in a fit of rage.
@bluedistortions
@bluedistortions Ай бұрын
Slotted screws are great, if you only plan on rotating a screw at one rotation per 5 seconds, and never tight enough to accomplish anything. Great for Grandpa's wasting time in the shed to avoid the wife and kids.
@babamolapisi5716
@babamolapisi5716 Ай бұрын
Extremely entertaining yet informative. Thanks.
@radicaledward3783
@radicaledward3783 4 сағат бұрын
Interesting annecdote, i was once removing screws from a house using a drill and one small philips head wouldn't come out, i kept going at it and eventually ended up stripping it, after a brief moment of thought i tried a Thompson about the same size as the hole and it came right out. I was proud of myself for outside the box thinking. XD
@johnfurr8779
@johnfurr8779 Ай бұрын
I emigrated from the US to Canada as a child... When I went to my American relatives to install central AC my relatives were blown away by how awesome the Robertson screws I used on ductwork were and how the screws didn't fall off the screw driver bits
@DocSprocket
@DocSprocket Ай бұрын
Tool-wielding Canadian, here. I couldn't imagine the frustration of trying to drive Philips-headed 3" construction screws all day long. You've heard the arguments and I don't need to repeat them. Neat story though- I was visiting friends in the Pensacola FL area maybe 4 years ago, and we found ourselves walking along a boardwalk. I stopped dead to marvel at what I was seeing- the entire boardwalk had been constructed with Robertson screws. I took the opportunity to razz my American host, and even he was surprised.
@michael_mcgowan
@michael_mcgowan Ай бұрын
I'm an American homebuilder, and I freaking hate Philips head screws. If you've got a quality screwdriver (🪛), they're fine, I guess, for little things, but for drills/Impact drivers, absolutely the worst.
@emerkamp1
@emerkamp1 Ай бұрын
Good for new, clean things going together, but taking apart old, out in the weather can be hit or miss.
@N8Dulcimer
@N8Dulcimer Ай бұрын
They are almost always star head in America.
@pickelsvx
@pickelsvx Ай бұрын
@@michael_mcgowan Sounds like user error to me, eh.
@michael_mcgowan
@michael_mcgowan Ай бұрын
@@pickelsvx Sounds like some loser who needs to try and put other people down because he can't come to grips with how pathetic he feels to me, eh
@silleeel8322
@silleeel8322 21 күн бұрын
the sense of humor here is much appreciated
@BernhardMasterson
@BernhardMasterson 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for the history and humor! Loved it.
@thenmathhappens2829
@thenmathhappens2829 Ай бұрын
Robertson drivers have a consistent colour code, which makes it easy to find the right one with a glance. Also, John Candy was the best Chris Farley.
@spencerjoplin2885
@spencerjoplin2885 Ай бұрын
I can’t find a color-coded Robertson set in US retailers. Everything is instead color-coded according to brand.
@biffmalibu3733
@biffmalibu3733 Ай бұрын
@@spencerjoplin2885 harbor freight
@ad905
@ad905 Ай бұрын
It's so logical its almost.... metric
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper Ай бұрын
@@ad905 Now, imagine if SAE had decimals instead of janky fractions
@matthewq4b
@matthewq4b Ай бұрын
@@InfernosReaper fractions are only janky if you lack the intellect to use them..
@nicholasnickson7254
@nicholasnickson7254 Ай бұрын
I'm English. I spent years with stripped phillips screws and a slighter different version called posidrive. Both useless. Then four years ago I discovered Robertsons, I LOVE them.
@ColinElliott-nx4rk
@ColinElliott-nx4rk Ай бұрын
I was wondering why pozidrive hadn't been mentioned. because that's my big hate. By a set of bits, and it includes a few of each, looking almost identical, and leaving one to wonder which to use when confronted by a head which might be phillips. Or might be pozidrive. I then have to try a few until one seems to grip best. Is this only suffered in Britain? I like Robertson screws, though, of which I have a few, but phillips are far more common, and to a lesser extent but increasingly, allen and torx.
@raghardeishi972
@raghardeishi972 Ай бұрын
@@ColinElliott-nx4rk You can like look at screw, and look at screwdriver. It's obvious which fits which.
@garypautard1069
@garypautard1069 Ай бұрын
@@raghardeishi972 Yes many DIY people are confused between Philips and Posidrive. Of course Posi have an X stamped on the head . Some manufacturers have created a Slot/Philips hybrid which are useless. Of course an impact driver will bash them in.
@thearmouredpenguin7148
@thearmouredpenguin7148 Ай бұрын
Pozidrive is essentially an improved Phillips allowing for more torque and reduced tendency to cam out.
@tz8785
@tz8785 Ай бұрын
@@raghardeishi972 You an see which is which if you know what to look for, but if you have to explicitly look for the difference I wouldn't call that obvious.
@ArmouredVikrim
@ArmouredVikrim 23 күн бұрын
I remember when I first became an electrician and used a Robertson for the first time I thought "WTF? This is so much better than a Phillips! Why don't we use these more often!?"
@davidcorscadden4450
@davidcorscadden4450 Ай бұрын
I am a Canadian but own a Casita trailer from Texas. I was pleasantly surprised when I got it. It was almost totally built with Robertsons! On the Casita forum, I find myself explaining just what the H screwdriver the Americans need to work on their trailer
@Bagel12321
@Bagel12321 Ай бұрын
i was thinking about torx the whole time. very funny at the end
@Beakerbite
@Beakerbite Ай бұрын
It only took us a century to figure it out. Progress!
@Simonfrios
@Simonfrios Ай бұрын
Stumpy, I have to commend you for this piece: not only is the writing stellar, but the research that went into this is equally impressive. Love it when you delve into the history of the craft.
@earlyriser8998
@earlyriser8998 Ай бұрын
Ditto. Great puns and humor and had fun with the story.
@Simonfrios
@Simonfrios Ай бұрын
@@earlyriser8998 agreed. His humor is on point. I'll never forget that "cam-outs" actually serve a purpose.
@taxicamel
@taxicamel Ай бұрын
@@Simonfrios ....and what "purpose" is that? Typically, material gets damaged when this occurs ....or someone might get hurt .....so what's the purpose of a cam-out .....more properly known as a screwdriver slip. .
@Simonfrios
@Simonfrios Ай бұрын
@@taxicamel did you watch the video? Cam out to stop a screw from breaking by over-torquing. it's hard to think of a use-case for that, but sounds like it could serve a purpose
@dukecraig2402
@dukecraig2402 Ай бұрын
​@@Simonfrios Yea, and the part he leaves out or doesn't know is that the "cam out" feature of a Phillips screw was intentionally designed into it, it wasn't an "accident", the very purpose is so that there's screws that can be used on a mass production line without snapping off head's or stripping threads, it's all covered in the language of the patent and is not an accident due to a bad design that just happened to find a home. If industry loved it for it's mass production qualities then ok, so why does America get demonized for that? Another thing not covered in this highly educational video is that there's more than one type of cross tip screwdriver and fastener, and guess what? The aircraft industry doesn't use Phillips, it didn't during WW2 and hasn't since, neither does Japan and that's why the screw head's on all the cross tip fasteners on Japanese motorcycle's and the Keihin carbs on Harley's strip out when you try using regular Phillips screwdrivers on them, they're ground entirely different and a Phillips screwdriver only contacts a tiny bit of the cross cuts in the screw head, Japanese vehicles use JIS (Japanese Industry Standard) cross tip fasteners, they're easily identified by a punch mark dot on the dome of the screw head, all people have to do is just order a set of JIS screwdrivers online and then they can quit blaming America for the fact that they're using the wrong tool for something. And when it comes to aircraft you have to watch, everything from screwdrivers being ground different to different thread pitches on fasteners can easily get people in trouble who don't know what they're doing but think they do, nuts and bolts on aircraft use thread pitches you won't find in a tap and die set you buy at the auto parts store, even tool dealers like Snap-On have to special order the stuff unless they're one that services the aviation industry, even the octane rating for Avgas is measured using a different scale than what automotive pump gas is, that's why I roll my eyes and bite my tongue every time I'm around some screwball who swears up and down about how much better his bike runs on the 98 octane gas his cousin who works at the airport hooks him up with, measured the same way pump gas is measured it's actually right around 93 which you can get at any gas station below 5,000 ft elevation and is a lot cheaper than Avgas, which because it has anti boiling agents and other necessary chemicals in the event it's put in an aircraft with a supercharged engine that can fly at high altitude those chemicals are actually detrimental to what they're trying to do at relative sea level on the pavement anyway, but these are guy's that believe octane is a chemical in gas that the more of it you have the faster you'll go, and I learned a long time ago not to try telling them different, they're the same guys who think all the Japanese screws are junk because they all strip. Another industry that has people stripping screws that don't know what they're doing is firearms, that's why even your best Snap-On screwdrivers strip the slots on screws in guns, and even then the industry itself isn't standardized, there's different screwdriver sets for Winchester's, Remington's, Colts and just about every firearm you can name, that's because they've been in business long before anything was standardized and all developed their own fasteners. The moral of the story is use the right tool for the job and quit blaming your shortcomings on America.
@ruck-a-tron
@ruck-a-tron Ай бұрын
I had to go out and by apex bits for the Robinson when I was remodeling my bathroom. The cabinets and the counter top were held together with them. I zipped them out with no issues. I like that they don't strip out the screw heads.
@g.chrisboynton5105
@g.chrisboynton5105 Ай бұрын
Thank you. I had no idea. When I was much younger I hated Philips since they strip their heads so easily. I've since learned that a better driver helps, although still not perfect. Then in about 2020 I discovered square drive in "deck" screws. I used them to put up a massive amounts of heavy duty shelving in the garage. What a freaking marvel. I love them. Torx? Meh, yet another set of driver bits I have to keep around for some ""no user repairable parts inside" (remember scrambled cable boxes?)
@gavinpearcey
@gavinpearcey Ай бұрын
The Torx, the solution to the the problem that had already been solved.
@FJB2020
@FJB2020 Ай бұрын
Ding Ding Ding.. I only see Torx in the US.. Them weirdos to the north still using squares.. Guess South park got them right lol..
@SamTheEnglishTeacher
@SamTheEnglishTeacher Ай бұрын
​@@FJB2020 People use them in NZ if they're doing high-end construction work and don't care about the cost of the screws
@cottrelr
@cottrelr Ай бұрын
The best thing about Torx screws is when your screw is a T20 and your bit is a T25
@Regolith86
@Regolith86 Ай бұрын
@@cottrelr That's why you get a bit kit that has like five or six of each. 😅
@opotime
@opotime Ай бұрын
And Spax T-Star is the answer to torx ;-)
@paulmount1119
@paulmount1119 Ай бұрын
Robbie's are easy when getting my wife to get me a driver, " Just say " Square Head, with: Red Handle or Green Handle, or Yellow Handle or Black Handle". she always gets me the right one!
@davidstonier-gibson5852
@davidstonier-gibson5852 Ай бұрын
I love it. Never knew there was such a thing. I only knew slots, Philips, and Ikea heads.
@espressomatic
@espressomatic Ай бұрын
Canadian here. And living about 5 minutes drive away from the old Robertson factory in Milton. I can't stand what passes today for "Robertson" - the problem is that it's about impossible to find a real one. The entire industry is making "square drive" and there's little or no commonality, besides gross dimensions) between different driver and screw manufacturers (enough to fit 0, 1, 2, 3 and #4 sizes). Back in the day, Robertson made both screws and drivers. Today you'll find drivers and bits that don't seat well in screws and cam out easily. Some have no taper, some the corners are too sharp and require a fight to remove from the screw. You'll find screws with shallow square impressions, incorrect taper, no pyramid at the bottom, far too weak to take significant torque from a driver, etc. These problems all manifest to some degree when hand-driving and will drive you off a cliff to insanity when using a power driver such as a drill or impact. It's nearly impossible to power drive a square screw today with any speed without it camming out well before it's fully driven. Many times, again because of the weak screw construction, you'll strip the screw before it's even gone through 3" of fir lumber. Being in the construction/reno trade, I really wish Torx was more widely adopted here in Canada. While you can find them from specialty hardware sellers and in super-premium products at the big box stores, ion every case they're much more expensive than the common robby.
@dion6481
@dion6481 Ай бұрын
The same crappy manufacturing tolerances also happens on Philipps heads. The screwdriver is a #3 but the bit os so "sharp" that it fits on #1 screws. Or the screw hole isn't deep enough and you have to file off the tip of your screwdriver. If you get good quality drivers and screws, you get good fit, no matter the type. Get a bunch of screws and drivers from flea markets you'll have problems. And as a Canadian, I'm proud of that Canadian invention and that's all I'm looking for. And as an electrican, that's all I work with!
@JoeC92
@JoeC92 Ай бұрын
And the cheap Chinese shit now days with the screws that aren't a #2 but no where close to a #3. And they strip pretty easy.
@yl9154
@yl9154 Ай бұрын
I remember having such problems when using a drill. Then I bought quality bits from a well know Canadian hand tools supplier and haven't had much problems since. Except for the occasional screw stuck to the bit after removal. In any case, proper bits helped a lot with the other issues.
@WeCanoe54
@WeCanoe54 Ай бұрын
Agree. The problem with all US 'square' drivers is that the drivers are not properly tapered. Order a set of proper Robertson drivers from Canada. You won't be sorry.
@doonhamer252
@doonhamer252 Ай бұрын
Wasn't there robertson and there was square drive. I think one was a tapered socket the other straight walled socket? Same was for Phillips and Posi-drive.. very often cheap poor quality screws and Hardware was used on the flat pack stuff like the IKEA copy cat..
@oh8wingman
@oh8wingman Ай бұрын
My ex-brother in law is a carpenter by trade and he has built hundreds of decks in and around the Detroit area. Since he was based out of Windsor Ontario, he always used Robertson screws. One of his employees, a fellow from Michigan, decided to go on his own. He tried Phillips screws but soon converted over to Robertson which he purchased by the box load in Canada. Other builders in the area took note and now there are lots of Robertson screws to be found in the area since they work so well with deck screw guns.
@kaasmeester5903
@kaasmeester5903 Ай бұрын
Compared to Phillips, almost anything (except flathead) works better with power tools. Never seen a Robertson screw here in Europe, and the most common screw used to be Pozidrive (a more grippy Phillips variant), but I noticed at some point the DYI stores one by one switched their store brand screws from Pozidrive to Torx.
@aitorbleda8267
@aitorbleda8267 Ай бұрын
@@kaasmeester5903 Square (not Robertson) is quite popular for example in ikea furniture. Torx is no doubt the superior option.
@egorleontev9970
@egorleontev9970 27 күн бұрын
What a great little documentary for my Sunday afternoon.
@outragequitter5027
@outragequitter5027 Ай бұрын
Red wings cup and bad puns. I love this already 😂❤
@user-kv4kc4pg6l
@user-kv4kc4pg6l Ай бұрын
I lived in Colorado years ago. As a Canadian I brought with me boxes of Robertson screws and built a few decks for myself and friends The neighbours in the area were flabbergasted at how fast I screwed the boards down .To me it was just a normal day.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Ай бұрын
Every couple weeks I get a talking to at work because I have a pile of unused Phillips head screws that come free from vendors. I buy Torx screws separately to use. Robertson screws started to become popular with carpenters in America until they discovered Torx. Square drives are still common with electrical equipment. If you walk through the fastener aisle of a hardware store, it's still mostly Phillips, but I'm convinced that no one actually buys them, they've just been there for years.
@pldaniels
@pldaniels Ай бұрын
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872 definitely more a fan of torx than 'square' - maybe it's just poor quality bits & screws we get here but trying to drive in a square at anything short of near perfectly perpendicular with the driving bit and it spits it out faster than my kids with brussel sprouts.
@alexd9784
@alexd9784 Ай бұрын
And every homeowner and future homeowner of those properties cursed your name and your ancestors when they had to drive to the store and buy the bit to remove them 25 years down the road when it needed to be replaced.
@rightwingsafetysquad9872
@rightwingsafetysquad9872 Ай бұрын
@@alexd9784 Cursed for 20 minutes, then blessed for years when they learned how much better square is than Phillips. Then maybe ignored because Torx is even better.
@user-kv4kc4pg6l
@user-kv4kc4pg6l Ай бұрын
@@alexd9784call me what you want but don’t call me late for dinner
@SIB1963
@SIB1963 Ай бұрын
"Just like the Egyptians would have done if they had screwdrivers." My favorite line in any recent YT video.
@Dowlphin
@Dowlphin Ай бұрын
🎶 Torque Like an Egyptian🎶
@justcommenting4981
@justcommenting4981 Ай бұрын
It was delivered with such authority. With alien tech there was of course no need.
@fullercrane1795
@fullercrane1795 Ай бұрын
@@Dowlphin stop watching little girls cartoons man. Now I know why people need pushed around.
@randymiller9714
@randymiller9714 Ай бұрын
Very well written and delivered. I love a joke that you don't see coming!
@binyamj
@binyamj Ай бұрын
The Robertson kicks ass. I bought some to put some furniture together and I loved them. They are super secure and give a lot of confidence.
@robertpearson8798
@robertpearson8798 Ай бұрын
As a Canadian I admit that Torx are great but the relative cost here is prohibitive. Philips are my screw of choice for drywall. Go into a Canadian hardware store (including Home Depot and Lowes) and Robertson make up the majority of screw choices. When purchasing hardware like hinges, towel racks, etc. that come with Philips screws I often toss them in favour of Robbies if possible.
@Patrick-857
@Patrick-857 Ай бұрын
Phillips is good for collated screw guns, which is why it will never stop being the drywall screw of choice. Phillips will also likely never be replaced in manufacturing. It works really well with auto feeding screw drivers on production lines, especially with really small screws. Here in NZ we are big on square drive in the construction industry, but torx is slowly gaining momentum, mainly with higher quality speciality screws. Phillips is ever present.
@swmovan
@swmovan Ай бұрын
Most of the screws that come with hinges, towel racks, etc, are almost worthless. They may work in a pinch, if nothing else is available, but I usually toss them for something longer and better quality.
@lawabidingcitizen5153
@lawabidingcitizen5153 Ай бұрын
Interesting, here in Europe they are only at most about 20% more expensive than pozi, well worth it though...
@wombatillo
@wombatillo Ай бұрын
@@Patrick-857 A bunch of computers and tiny electronics do use torx screws. Some of the ones in mobile phones are absolutely tiny, yet still torx and automatically driven. Phillips is cheaper, true.
@Patrick-857
@Patrick-857 Ай бұрын
@wombatillo One thing I hate is torx in European cars. They use that and a bunch of really weird ones. The problem is that torx can handle the specified tightening torque at the factory, but not the required breakaway torque for the poor bugger that has to repair the thing. Another example of European cars aren't built to be repaired.
@Transit67F2
@Transit67F2 Ай бұрын
after a 35 year furniture making career, two things stood out as best value...the square drive screw and the blessed millimetre. Never heard of Robertson. Thank god we dumped imperial measurement 55 years ago (NZ)
@140288albert
@140288albert Ай бұрын
For that reason alone, I like my European car. No fumbling under a car figuring out fractions of an inch
@pathunter7003
@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын
@@140288albert so you would rather fumble around with millimeters, ok then,,,
@MinatoNamikaze607
@MinatoNamikaze607 Ай бұрын
​@@140288albert metric sucks balls. Imperial all the way 😅
@TheDuckofDoom.
@TheDuckofDoom. Ай бұрын
Roberston drive is tapered, not a true square, that is what allows it to self align and to stick to the drive-bit without magnets.
@quistan2
@quistan2 Ай бұрын
There is no inherent benifit to the metric system. The imperial system has measurements that are more intuitive, such as a foot being roughly the length of an average mans foot. I've never in all my life heard a metric user ever utter what should be the most common measuremet. A decimeter. Measurements are somewhat arbitrary, which is why I'd rather use a more intuitive system. If you cant do fractions you probaby have no buisness building anything anyway.
@DeliveryMcGee
@DeliveryMcGee Ай бұрын
I remember once reading a firsthand story from a Canadian artist who sent a bunch of her work to a show in the US. When she showed up the day before the exhibit was to open, her stuff was still packed up. She had to call her friend back home to overnight her a screwdriver bit to open the crates.
@raccoonpeddler6730
@raccoonpeddler6730 20 күн бұрын
as a canadian builder who has done it a few times i can confirm you can still stab your finger with a robertson driver but we don't talk about that.
@ZPdrumer
@ZPdrumer Ай бұрын
lol I love all the little jokes in here maple syrup, butter, etc. too many to capture. great video very entertaining but very informative as well
@drgruber57
@drgruber57 Ай бұрын
Yes! I was laughing quite a bit through this video! He was in fine form! Healthy dose of sarcasm too.
@michaelraiman573
@michaelraiman573 Ай бұрын
So many, chefs kiss! Informative history, with little nuggets of humor that only is limited to the amount that you pay attention. Keep this type of content flowing, love it.
@MADxHAWK
@MADxHAWK Ай бұрын
Im an electronic technican and we did a lot of huge scale AC ventilation systems electro assambly and used self cutting sheet metal screws. We quickly went away from phillips heads and replaced them with square head screws. 1. most phillips heads got rounded by the bits, once they were screwed in you wont get them out again. 2. the bits for our cordless screwdrivers went dull all the time and we had to replace them so we start replacing them with square heads and torx and we never had any problems.
@andrew_koala2974
@andrew_koala2974 27 күн бұрын
PHILLIPS will end up in the Screw museum as did the Slotted screw
@garync3810
@garync3810 10 күн бұрын
Loved the video! I'm a bicycle repair guy, and the Japanese companies (Shimano), and I believe the Japanese car companies use what looks like a Phillips, but is actually a JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screwdriver. I always wondered why the screw driver so easily slipped out. No problem once I got the JIS screwdriver. Finally, the new stuff is using allen bolts.
@gmanova
@gmanova Ай бұрын
Thanks for clearing that up. Could never figure out why isles upon isles in canadian home depos are the square head ones!
@davidregehr2687
@davidregehr2687 Ай бұрын
The living quarters of my motor coach , built in Oregon, are entirely assembled with Robertson screws. As a Canadian it is a treat to pull out the old #2 robby to remove a panel. Another screw I like is the dual robertson and phillips used in electrical applications.
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Ай бұрын
I like those combination head screws that accept Slotted, Phillips, AND Robertson bits. I have only noticed them used on washing machines and garage doors though for some reason.
@portable_wall9222
@portable_wall9222 Ай бұрын
@@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive ecx screws?
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive Ай бұрын
@@portable_wall9222 I think so. Google also brings up something called a Combination-Head.
@rauknrolf
@rauknrolf Ай бұрын
Your dry, wonderful humor is wonderful!
@SazanovDmitry
@SazanovDmitry Ай бұрын
What do you think about Pozidrive version of screws?
@CanadianCitizenshipTestKit
@CanadianCitizenshipTestKit Ай бұрын
Short version of the story: A friend of mine is a (Canadian) engineer. His company built and crated a piece of equipment that they then shipped to Holland. The Dutch company was apparently perplexed and frustrated when they took delivery. The Canadian company had to DHL a Robertson screwdriver to Holland so they could open the crate. 🤣
@RandomGuyOnYoutube601
@RandomGuyOnYoutube601 Ай бұрын
While square screwheads are rare in Europe, it is not difficult to buy a square bit.
@espressomatic
@espressomatic Ай бұрын
Weird, because I can easily find square drive in other European countries, like Portugal and Germany. It would have taken minutes to go out and get a Wera or Wiha square drive which I'm sure are readily available in the Netherlands.
@Mike40M
@Mike40M Ай бұрын
I'm an European who never has seen a Robertson screw. Though I have a bits set including square bits. Until now never understood what they are for.
@jonb3311
@jonb3311 Ай бұрын
@@Mike40M Ditto. I've come across triangular heads, argh.
@lawrencebraun7616
@lawrencebraun7616 Ай бұрын
The Dutch could have taken a regular screw driver.Cut the end off. Went to a grinder and ground it square
@heyimamaker
@heyimamaker Ай бұрын
wow wow wow, best version of John Candy! 20 years ago I worked in a bike shop and sent a very expensive spoke cutter back to the US for calibration and it was packaged up in a little crate using Robertson screws. THe company said they had to machine a bit to dismantle the crate 😂
@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 Ай бұрын
very likely, as robertson bits were few and far between at that time, I had a few sets, but they were all cheap junk and would twist off, round/cam out if there was any torque required. then again, I could snap off flat heads, both the screws and screw drivers by hand, often phillips heads too. when using an impact or drill-driver, when you hit hard material, they ALL will shear off the fastener just below the head with enough power holding the bit in place. been there done that for 25+ years, when I had only hand tools. yeah I have a very strong grip
@Matt_Foley
@Matt_Foley Ай бұрын
@@throttlebottle5906stop tugging on your member so much.
@chapiit08
@chapiit08 Ай бұрын
Strange, because three sizes of Robertson bits come in almost every driver bit set.
@VoltisArt
@VoltisArt 17 күн бұрын
Well, to be honest, if you have to machine a bit for something that isn't horrible flat-heads, square is a pretty easy shape to make. I wouldn't be bothered for a second by this, if buying was inconvenient for whatever reason. An old flat-head might be a great sacrificial candidate, since two sides are already shaped close enough.
@dfu1685
@dfu1685 28 күн бұрын
American here. Before the torx became the biggest option available in the box stores, I was in love with the Robertson head. However, they have limited sizes with Robertson heads so at one point I had to choose torque screws for a job. I still have an extensive supply of them, but because I deplore having to switch drivers on the same project, I primarily use the Torx now. But Truly, our Northern Brethren Bested us Yanks with the Roberson screw head. Touché!
@theLordsboy
@theLordsboy 24 күн бұрын
What a delightful rendering of a screwy history. As a Canadian, I prefer the Robertson but I can see why Americans prefer something that looks like a star.
@Tal.10
@Tal.10 Ай бұрын
Stumpy Nubs is one of the best, love your videos man
@richarddaugherty8583
@richarddaugherty8583 Ай бұрын
Great presentation! The cameo's are priceless! :)
@legendaryzfps
@legendaryzfps 6 сағат бұрын
WAIT YOU GUYS USE SQUARE SCREWS?!?!!?? WTF never seen that before (I'm from Europe, everybody here use Torx or Hexagon screws). That is like the most mindblowing thing that happened to me this month
@hgbugalou
@hgbugalou Ай бұрын
Man... of all youtubers "shilling" things, you are unparalleled in actually coming through with great products made by real people and I have spent so much money on your affiliate links. My wife may come after you. 🤣 I JUST bought a high end contractor table saw for my shop to replace an old cheap Ryobi one that had just lost all its accuracy and the fence was wonky. I would love to have a full cabinet table saw but my "shop" is only a garage space so I don't have a ton of room and have to sometimes move my tools around depending on the project. This product is perfect for me and just what I need to get the most use and accuracy out of my contractor saw. I just bought one of the kits from your link. One of the things I love about your channel is you offer solutions and tips for professional wood workers, prosumer hobbyists like myself, and just occasional weekend warriors. Thank you for this!
@shannoncooley1575
@shannoncooley1575 Ай бұрын
Love that you're infusing your great sense of humor back into your videos while keeping then well researched and informative. Well done !
@Doggieman1111
@Doggieman1111 17 күн бұрын
So, while the Philips screw wasn't "designed" to cam out, the fact that it did so made it particularly suitable for early machines tightening them on automobiles which was better than the alternative: harming the automobile by overtightening the screw. The real problem is that it's still used in applications where cam-out is undesirable and unnecessary.
@harrycelentano2206
@harrycelentano2206 Ай бұрын
I can't believe I watched this in its entirety. I also can't believe that I found it interesting. This my friends has been my aha moment when I realized that I am getting old.
@Ice_Karma
@Ice_Karma Ай бұрын
Canadian here, who lived first as an adult in New Zealand and the US before moving back to Canada. One of the first things I had to do was get some Robertson bits. I had been going to comment about how some consider the Philips tendency to camout being considered a feature by some, before torque drivers were invented, but you covered that. 😺 A bit more about the first time Robertson tried to license the design: In 1913, Robertson co-founded a limited company in the UK, called Recess Screws (1913), Ltd., based in Gillingham, Kent. In 1926, another company, Kent Construction and Engineering, Co., Ltd., bought the assets of Recess Screws (1913), Ltd., which included Robertson's screw patent (which they'd been marketing under the trademark "Recess"), and promptly formed a new company, called Recess Screws (1926), Ltd., combining both firms' product lines (Kent already produced other lines of screws and bolts under their own trademarks) under a new trademark, "Chequer". Unlike the preceding, I can't find anything on the web to confirm the following now, but I recall reading somewhere that the other co-owners of the first Recess Screws deliberately bankrupted the company, so that the other company they controlled, Kent Construction and Engineering, could purchase Recess Screw's assets, including Robertson's screw patent, and cut him out of the picture. Ford's plant in Windsor, Ontario, Canada started using Robertson screws -- 700 of them each, apparently -- supplied by Robertson's own Milton, Ontario factory in locally-manufactured Model Ts, and found that they saved two hours of assembly time. Ford wanted to license the design from Robertson, so he could have his company manufacture them as part of its vertical integration, but Robertson was unwilling to license his US patent to Ford because of his bitter experience in the UK with Recess Screw. That said, Robertson himself held the US patent for his design -- apparently unlike the situation in the UK? -- so I'm not sure I understand what outcome Robertson was afraid of.
@thorinbane
@thorinbane Ай бұрын
Because of ford not just wanting to license them but buy the patent, he didn't want to leave the possibility of his manufacturing going down to any other company , let alone one across the river in a foreign country controlled by a competing empire, the british.
@bmedicky
@bmedicky Ай бұрын
Great video. Worth pointing out that in Canada, Robertson screws are so overwhelmingly common that it's actually difficult to find any other head style in the usual big-box stores. Usually you have to go to a specialty fastener store to get slot-drive screws and Philips (the one exception being that hinges prepackaged with screws will often have Philips screws).
@FiltyIncognito
@FiltyIncognito Ай бұрын
Philips are still annoyingly common. We rely too much on US stuff.
@yvan2563
@yvan2563 Ай бұрын
I don't know if it's the same everywhere in Canada, but here in Québec most screws sold in stores are either Square+Philips screws or Square+Philips+slotted screws. Yes we have Robertson-only screws, but they're not as common as the other two.
@bluewren65
@bluewren65 Ай бұрын
Those screws that come with hinges are almost invariably shitty and need to be thrown away.
@reverse_engineered
@reverse_engineered Ай бұрын
I've never had trouble finding Phillips screws in Home Depot, Rona, or Canadian Tire. There are lots of options. The only time I've noticed a lack of Phillips was when looking at deck screws which were overwhelmingly Robertson. There were a couple models of Phillips off to the side in the specialty stuff, but the rest was all Robertson. Not that I'd ever want to use Phillips for driving in a 3 inch deck screw.
@tonys4341
@tonys4341 Ай бұрын
Very interesting video. I wasn't aware of the history behind it. I do remember as a kid, seeing a steam powered Robertson screw maker (I'm not that old! It was a steam engine tractor show) and was fascinated by the hot, oily screws dropping from it. I also remember my father, an engineer at a factory that manufactured among other things, an automotive creeper. The advertising photographer made some shots that showed the creeper in "action" and they ended up on the front of the packaging box. My father was appalled, because the photographer, apparently ignorant of all things mechanical, used Robertson screwdrivers as a prop. He suggested they redo the photos, but was overruled by the CEO. "No one will notice," said the Grand Poobah. Except oddly enough, car mechanics, who were the target market, are well aware of which tools are which. A few weeks after launch, they got some very negative feedback from the large chain, Canadian Tire, mentioning among others things, the wrong screwdriver
@SirKeeganPenney
@SirKeeganPenney Ай бұрын
I'm canadian and I just do basic fine woodwork with custom framing, the only screws I can trust and rob's
@MultiVogon
@MultiVogon Ай бұрын
Glad to see the Posidriv gang in the comments - once you've tried 'em you'll never use Phillips again 👍
@autobootpiloot
@autobootpiloot Ай бұрын
Pz is only good with a very high quality bit or screwdriver. Torx is much better because you can use the cheap stuff in most cases.
@_JamesBrown
@_JamesBrown Ай бұрын
The whole ski industry uses posidrive
@MultiVogon
@MultiVogon Ай бұрын
Not going to argue with that - I've stripped plenty in my time with inattention. My car uses Torx everywhere so I've had to buy a load of new screwdrivers (always a good day when you get to buy new tools 😀)
@donkmeister
@donkmeister Ай бұрын
True. Although any fastener experience is improved through using quality tools and fasteners. I've rounded off Tx heads before, usually some user error involved where I've not cleaned out the broach before undoing the fastener. One of the good things about Pz (and indeed Ph) is that for typical DIY purposes you can do about 90% of your work with a #2, and the other 10% with a #1 and #3. So you can have a good stock of #2 and a few #1 and #3. I've actually got some #4 but never had anything that uses them. Whereas Tx, you need a good spread of sizes... They're more suited to engineered items, such as cars, where an engineer has determined the clamping force required and hence the fastener size and torque required. Whereas with wood we just shrug and say "yeah looks about the right size".
@Volvith
@Volvith Ай бұрын
PZ is just Philips with extra steps. Garbage material still means you'll murder the profile. Square is great because neither the tool nor the material matters much.
@CADRollHunter
@CADRollHunter Ай бұрын
You failed to mention that in Igloo construction in Canada, we use Robertson screws constructed of hardened ice. Once two blocks of ice are fastened together, the joint is warmed and then rapidly frozen, causing the screw and the blocks to melt and fuse together. We're not concerned about over torking or shearing off the head of the screw in this application, but we desparately want to avoid the stripping that occurs with Phillips head screws and the resultant dangerous ice shards that fly about. Thanks for sharing the supremacy of Canadian screws with your audience and the world.
@driftwolf
@driftwolf Ай бұрын
If you're not using maple syrup (#3 dark of course) as caulking you're building it wrong anyway.
@dsigetich
@dsigetich Ай бұрын
Does that work in July? There’s plenty of ice but the screws don’t freeze quite as solid.
@CADRollHunter
@CADRollHunter Ай бұрын
@@dsigetich Yup, that's an issue in the summer! 🤣
@astranger448
@astranger448 Ай бұрын
@@CADRollHunter Trick from mechanical assembly (bearings and stuff), I summer use a freezer to pre cool them(liquid nitrogen might overdo it), in winter a deep fryer to pre heat them. Maybe cover in batter first, deep-fried ice cubes are a treat!
@seanmcdonald5859
@seanmcdonald5859 Ай бұрын
As an Australian I find the image of an ICE screw too bizarre to comprehend so I'm GUESSING this is one of those Canadian jokes they play on visitors. . . . .
@joe226825
@joe226825 16 күн бұрын
I'm a Canuck and when I did framing renovations I used Robertson screws for fastening (temporary) because many times the customer would want to make changes. I could easily pull out the screws to alter the framing. After things were finalized I could then properly nail the framing together. Screws are easy to back out; Nails are Not...
@atanacioluna292
@atanacioluna292 Ай бұрын
So many details to bust out about, including the square-eyed squirrel. Lots of fun. I think of it as mental evolution. Electricians and seniors like to bust their fingers with flat heads. Dry wallers like to take breaks to change their bits. Robertsoners like to get weird screws that don't fit ordinary people, and torx's finally produce an expensive but reliable screw that you can never be sure if you got the correct size driver for. Loved the vid; thanks
@gregglouis2969
@gregglouis2969 Ай бұрын
Telling his screw driver he was sorry and took a shot of maple syrup. I HAVENT LAUGHED THAT HARD IN A LONG TIME. THANK YOU!!!
@jamesfetherston1190
@jamesfetherston1190 Ай бұрын
I also like “ he injured his best nosepicker”
@alexd9784
@alexd9784 Ай бұрын
As a Canadian, more like 7 shots of whiskey that could barely pass as gasoline
@robw9435
@robw9435 Ай бұрын
Yeah, but I laughed even harder when he said a Canadian screwdriver was a canuckleheaded idea.
@jamesfetherston1190
@jamesfetherston1190 Ай бұрын
@@robw9435 That one too. He was on fire in this one.
@B0jangle5
@B0jangle5 Ай бұрын
The smaller torx heads wear too easily. Robertson is solid which is why it's used in high value applications like healthcare and boat building. The Canadians are right to be proud of them.
@mrniusi11
@mrniusi11 Ай бұрын
no way, squares round off way quicker than torx.
@gg-gn3re
@gg-gn3re Ай бұрын
Use the correct bit size. Torx drivers that are too small can still turn a screw but will strip it. Torx is superior as it has more surface area contact. Square strips easier. Size is not relevant there, only surface area contact
@silentferret1049
@silentferret1049 Ай бұрын
I have had robersons screws cam out because not able to get a dirrectly seated angle on the screw and round out the bit. Torx don't really wear out unless you got a cheap bit. They would more likely snap off than wear out. I have found out that torx can work well enough on a slight side angle than robertson. They don't have to be fully seated or they don't work. each have their problems and benefits.
@markjacobson4248
@markjacobson4248 Ай бұрын
​@@gg-gn3reIt's actually about a great many things and no KZfaq comment is ever going to go into sufficient detail to actually explain why one driver design might be more robust than another.
@gg-gn3re
@gg-gn3re Ай бұрын
@@markjacobson4248 I just did
@hypertectonics7009
@hypertectonics7009 Ай бұрын
What is truly insane is that phillips screws are still made at all. It's just mind blowing.
@michaelcondron1304
@michaelcondron1304 19 күн бұрын
Lol, I was about to give you an immediate sub for the " best version of Chris Farley " line (may his comedic genius rest in peace) and then you said that Robertson wasn't the first man "driven" to solve the problem... Can I sub twice? 🤣🤣
@MrSlipstreem
@MrSlipstreem Ай бұрын
European here. I haven't used a Phillips screw in many decades. Nearly everything here is Pozidriv (often incorrectly spelled "Pozidrive") or Superdrive with no cam-out issues, unless you're using the wrong screwdriver, obviously.
@DalHrusk
@DalHrusk Ай бұрын
If you never have cam-out issues with pozidriv you must be kind of magician ;-) After I first tried torx, I never wanted anything else.
@Knowarxana
@Knowarxana Ай бұрын
The only issue is that people always seem to think pozi and Phillips are interchangeable, and don't see any problem using the wrong size. THAT is what causes most stripping and camming on pz imo.
@DalHrusk
@DalHrusk Ай бұрын
@@Knowarxana This is just what you think. I well recognize the difference between PZ and PH and I always use the exact matching size of bit but I still have issues. The biggest problems are screws smaller than 4mm in diameter, panhead screws and unscrewing. Who says that he never has camming issues in these cases is either amazingly skilled or just liar. With torx, you don't even need to push on scredriver. As I said - I tried it once and never wanted anything else. And with ball-torx screwdriver, you can even screw at an angle of about 20-30°. Try that with PZ.
@m.a.6478
@m.a.6478 Ай бұрын
Pozi is one of the worst human factor error inducing inventions in recent years. I'm happy Torx is ending the cursing and sweating when servicing parts which were last seen by a "oh, it's just a cross shaped screw head, I'll use my cross shaped screwdriver" person. Especially below M4 sizes it's almost impossible to see the lines and with a good amount of Loctite the damage is guaranteed.
@Knowarxana
@Knowarxana Ай бұрын
@@m.a.6478 personally I'm a fan of JIS, but I can't count the number of stripped heads I've had to deal with on older Japanese motorcycles, where people have used Phillips, not realising the difference. JIS has a really satisfying positive lock. If it hasn't been wrecked by a Phillips, I've got out stuck screws that haven't shifted for 50 years. I shudder whenever I hear someone refer to a "cross head screw"
@danaross
@danaross Ай бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Your humor throughout was much appreciated and very witty.
@barneyhall2753
@barneyhall2753 9 күн бұрын
Are posidrive screws still a thing? Less likely to cam out and you still can use a Phillips driver to insert them if you don't have posidrive bit.
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