Subaru Outback Wilderness Dual XMode Dirt and Rock Off-Road Test

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Driving Sports TV

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Күн бұрын

By popular demand we brought a 2022 Subaru Outback Wilderness to our Peninsula Off-Road Course to see how well it handles tough roads, rocks and mud.
#Subaru #subaruoutback #offroad
CONTENT
00:00 - Introduction
00:30 - Features
02:07 - Subaru XMode Basic Functionality (Chicken Run)
04:35 - Double Ditch Test
08:30 - Logging Road Rock Test
14:07 - Muddy Hill Climb
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@Doc1855
@Doc1855 Жыл бұрын
Great review Ryan ! Let everyone know that Subaru no longer installs metal or aluminum skid plates on Any Subaru vehicle. Rallitek does offer them, however.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
I just checked with corporate and you are correct. No longer available from their supplier and they haven't decided if they're going to replace them. I'll mention that in my next Wilderness video.
@BoanergesJim
@BoanergesJim Жыл бұрын
Hmmm. I wonder when this started? I just received my 2023 (my 2022 was totaled in a wreck), and I have the aluminum skid plate.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
@@BoanergesJim They probably had stock, and are now out.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@BoanergesJim Well darn those wrecks. Any differences between your 2022 and 2023 model?
@puffdc
@puffdc Жыл бұрын
The shortage is from them being built in russia. Until they give up in their invasion of ukraine aftermarket is the way to go. Primitive Racing makes a nice set
@OneBaldingWookiee
@OneBaldingWookiee Жыл бұрын
This channel has HEAVILY influenced our decision to purchase the OBW and we have not been happier. It’s perfect for what we do in the PNW. Even getting us out of a very very sketchy snowy ditch situation on Mt. Hood. Long story short I called roadside assistance only to be told it would be 4+ hours to get to us. That definitely would not work. I thought surely the car could do this, that’s why we bought it. So I hopped in the car, switched to deep snow/mud, floored it and held that to let the car work it out and BAM we were out! All I had to do was trust the car and we were off to continue our adventure. Later that week I upgraded the tires to the Falken Wildpeaks. Now the car is perfect.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
That's awesome that you were able to self-recover. 4+ hours is a ridiculously long wait time to get help. I'm not a Subaru guy, but Ryan's reviews of Subaru products on this course have given me the insight that a Subaru quite possibly might end up in the driveway in the near future. My only experience with Subaru was back in the old 80's 4WD GL wagons that had an actual 2 speed transfer case. Another review channel bashes Subaru every chance they get to the point Subaru won't even let them have vehicles to review which is fine, they still can't grasp how these AWD systems work unlike Ryan that lets the system figure it out by keeping constant throttle.
@johnwayne8475
@johnwayne8475 Жыл бұрын
Now you should get a 2 inch suspension lift
@OneBaldingWookiee
@OneBaldingWookiee Жыл бұрын
@@johnwayne8475 100% agreed
@tritchie6272
@tritchie6272 Жыл бұрын
@@wildbill23c I'm guessing your talking about TFL. And sometimes they can give good information, but sometimes Roman can get on my nerves with his childishness. Roman seems so in love with EV that I wonder if he owns stock in some electric company or something. But he hate's Subaru with a Passion to the point I doubt his credibility on anything Subaru related. Sometimes his kid seems more mature than he does.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@tritchie6272 Exactly the channel I was referring to, and I agree with you. I have nothing against Subaru, but its a really good example of why you have to listen to multiple sources before bashing a brand, or not looking at a brand just because of 1 review. Ryan is doing great with his tests of the Subaru AWD systems, giving me much more confidence in the brand that I would have otherwise overlooked.
@chuckwalla2967
@chuckwalla2967 Жыл бұрын
Can never have enough Subaru content.
@OneBaldingWookiee
@OneBaldingWookiee Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@TheDonmega70
@TheDonmega70 Жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@josephina24
@josephina24 Жыл бұрын
Then you watch Donut Media put 2 engines in the same wrx, as well as two new cars 😂 I love watching Subaru capability, but not for long term ownership... Unless the wife says otherwise...
@laurielavallee411
@laurielavallee411 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@westcoast708
@westcoast708 Жыл бұрын
Love our crosstrek.
@kingofall9262
@kingofall9262 Жыл бұрын
This just makes me that much happier being a Outback wilderness owner. Loved my outback.
@BoanergesJim
@BoanergesJim Жыл бұрын
I have always liked and appreciated your content. You never try to test a vehicle in a place that it is not designed to be. I have watched reviewers put Subarus on Jeep trails high in the Colorado Rockies, then complain that they just did not cut the mustard. One thing that many reviewers never mention (nor can they demonstrate) is the Subaru's safety rating. I had a 2022 Outback Wilderness. I LOVED that car. I was t-boned in an intersection, rolled and landed upside down. I walked away from the wreck. People who witnessed the accident were amazed that I was able to crawl out of the wreckage. Yes, there may be some better soft roaders out there, and definitely better hard core trail rigs, but the combination of capability, safety and economy is difficult to match.
@tritchie6272
@tritchie6272 Жыл бұрын
Some automotive Journalist are idiots. I watched a woman review a minivan years ago and complain about it's cornering. I think each vehicle should be reviewed for what it is. For example, don't expect a minivan to handle like a sports car, and don't expect a sports car to haul people like a van or crossover. And don't expect either to tow like a truck.
@mahhty4279
@mahhty4279 Жыл бұрын
Now all we need is a direct competition video of the forester and Outback
@qpoole90
@qpoole90 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these videos seeing how the AWD systems work! I will say what sold me on Subarus AWD system was seeing it in action. I was in Baja and a lady got stuck in an older mid 2000s forester (on street tires). This car was in deep sand and on a steep hill. This terrain was so steep that I wouldn't have attempted the hill with a Tacoma or wrangler, let alone a forester on street tires. We aired down the tires and With a few people pushing to get it moving, it literally climbed up this steep and deep sandy hill. I couldn't believe it! You could see the AWD system sending power to each wheel and it just crawled up. No x mode needed!
@GeorgeOrwell-tp8dw
@GeorgeOrwell-tp8dw 5 ай бұрын
I love these stories! I mean, they are completely fake, but entertaining. Subaru's not getting out of something a wrangler couldn’t, facts. Subaru is also way better built, more comfortable, more efficient, and will offer more room. No need to pretend they are crazy off-roaders, but are simply a little better than your average cross over.
@DUNEATV
@DUNEATV Жыл бұрын
This has really turned out to be a great channel. Thx for your hard work!
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
I agree, Ryan does an awesome job showing off what a vehicle can actually do when given the chance, and isn't afraid to get them dirty but knows when to stop before causing serious damage. He also isn't afraid to give his personal opinion on stuff either which is what a potential buyer needs to hear, rather than the paid advertisers that you see so often saying nothing but its amazing, I wanna know the good and the bad so I know before I go checkout a vehicle.
@nwstoic8117
@nwstoic8117 Жыл бұрын
Your content is what convinced me to purchase an Outback Wilderness this year. Thanks for the great channel!
@Databyter
@Databyter 27 күн бұрын
I really appreciate how you have taken the time to understand the modes and explain them correctly. There are other review channels I won't mention, who do NOT give the car the time to figure things out, and just give it a fail, or have it in the wrong mode. I have found that for most situations including most offroad situations, regular mode, is still the best one to be in. I call it Xmode2. Xmode 1 has less spin than 2, and 3 has more. That's pretty much it. I probably would have used Xmode2 on that last slippery hill obstacle, and definitely wouldn't have pressed to brakes to slow down in that soft dirt. That simply makes a hole with a curb in front of it. If you need to slow down offroading an incline, just take foot off gas. Never brake in soft muddy soil. I have to give you a pass because I know you are trying to baby a borrowed vehicle and trying not to damage it. Xmode 2, which is just basically the regular driving mode, is actually the right choice in most situations. All of them are active torque vectoring. They just have different tolerance for spin. 1 wouldnt be great there. 2 allows enough spin but is fairly aggressive in that situation. 3 might allow too much spin because of the grade, and you won't have enough torque on the ground to defeat the grade. That's just from experience. But I might have needed to switch it out if it didn't work, and XM3 was definitely the right end of the spectrum to lean towards if 2 wasn't working. People make a mistake of turning on Xmode 1 just because they hit the dirt road. But you don't want to drive around in Xmode 1 just because you're in the dirt, because it will put unnecessary attention to braking, and also cut your fuel economy. Use em when you need em. Regarding the Forester Wilderness, it is a great choice too. Not as much power, but the power is much easier to modulate. The Wilderness, until you learn how to control the inputs, has a tendency to have not enough power, and then rocket ship into orbit suddenly. Which is not actually that useful of a feeling when trying to be careful near trees and obstacles. You can heel toe the brake and accelerator, or just learn the timing of the dance of the CVT, Turbo, And Logic. I'm almost a part of my vehicle now, I can sense when the power is about to pounce. I wish it was easier to modulate, but I'm still glad that it is so powerful when it arrives. In most cases you don't need near the power this car has, and would prefer the modulation of the non turbo Forester. I'm just being honest. And I've seen reviews where the Forester BEAT the Outback on some obstacles, because of it's control, where the Outback put too much power down too fast and just burned out instead of moving. Anyway, great review. I appreciate the fairness. I own this vehicle and love it. I actually forgot this had hill descent mode when in Xmode. I've never used it. I need to try that soon. Databyter😄
@timanderson6111
@timanderson6111 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video, aimed at the non-pro who may want to occasionally check out wilderness trails. Itsa 10! Good job, Ryan, again and again and again!
@chassiebunker8126
@chassiebunker8126 Жыл бұрын
Would love an updated Ascent challenge with the 2023 since it has dual x mode-for those of us who still need 3 rows, but want to get off the pavement and into the mud.😊
@alexvelasquez4739
@alexvelasquez4739 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos thank you for all your hard work I really do believe you should have way more followers
@willtraveltofish
@willtraveltofish Жыл бұрын
Been waiting for another OBW test from you. Thanks for not forgetting about this amazing car.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
This is 1 of 2 videos we shot. Look for a second one in a week or so.
@tritchie6272
@tritchie6272 Жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports I have to admit that your testing/reviews of them seem more fair, sensible and better explained than most I've seen. I like that you review crossovers and hope someday you can review AWD vans as well. Someday I may get me a crossover to camp in. At least that's what I'm currently leaning toward doing when finances allow. And while I'm at it I want to address something I've seen used in alot of comment sections as an insult. Grocery getter. Well, I like to eat. And when it's time to get groceries I don't want weather to prevent that. Also. I work nights. I want to get home when its time no matter the weather. Where I live don't consistently get snow like Y'All get, but when it does snow it can sometimes take abit of time for certain roads to get cleared.
@alexandregingras6004
@alexandregingras6004 5 ай бұрын
Awesome video, I've had my Wilderness for 2 years and you really helped me differentiate the 2 X-Modes.
@MagnumoftheMountains
@MagnumoftheMountains Жыл бұрын
THIS is the #1 channel for Subaru Wilderness model content. Ryan, if at all possible, I'd LOVE to see you do a head to head between the Outback Wilderness and the (hear me out) Ford Maverick Tremor. As I consider my next vehicle selfishly (I have a 2015 Outback), I'd like something modestly more capable, but not something to the level of a 4Runner or Taco (too expensive for my liking and not as practical as a daily driver.) Someone like me who likes the idea of a truck bed looks at the Maverick Tremor and sees it as potential competition to my Subaru Outback wagon for daily driving, but also mildly soft off roading.
@jonathanbormann5077
@jonathanbormann5077 Жыл бұрын
I second this...👏👏👏🤜🤛
@griffinballard8763
@griffinballard8763 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! VERY interesetd in the Tremor!
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
I agree as well. Although if I picked a Maverick I'd just get the Fx4 model...and retain the 4K tow package, the Tremor drops the 4K tow package option, and doesn't really give you much more usefulness. I'm starting to like these Wilderness package Subarus but I'd love that little Maverick truck for so many things.
@JonDZ_Adventuring
@JonDZ_Adventuring Жыл бұрын
I agree 💯 % Ryan should rename this channel “Subaru Sports TV”. The Maverick tremor will be in another league. The base model Maverick AWD will be closer competition. Watch the video Ryan did of the outback wilderness vs. Ford Maverick FX4. On the final obstacle, the Maverick completed the obstacle in normal mode. The Outback couldn’t make it in Normal or xmode 1, but I believe it made it with xmode 2 with some momentum.
@MagnumoftheMountains
@MagnumoftheMountains Жыл бұрын
@@JonDZ_Adventuring great comment, I've seen that video but forgot about that aspect. In this case then, I'd like to see if the Maverick Tremor CRUSHES the Outback Wilderness. :)
@MrSmith-rk4jq
@MrSmith-rk4jq Жыл бұрын
glad to see you point out more specifics on how xmode works, especially reg dirt/snow, too many reviews for these cars have popped up the last year where as soon as wheel spin happens people let off the throttle and try again. you just gotta give it the beans!
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
HAHA, I've caught that as well in every other tester video, and one particular channel comes to mind with any AWD vehicle they test as soon as a wheel slips they stop and act as if the vehicle is a piece of crap rather than they're lack of brains is the problem. Subaru just keeps on getting better, wish they'd offer a little truck again like the Subaru Baja or something similar....right now I'm kind of looking towards the Maverick, but the same time the growing want to get into a Subaru for the first time since well...the old 80's GL 4WD Wagon era LOL.
@Timelrd_OBW
@Timelrd_OBW Жыл бұрын
I love your videos! My OBW has been modified (lift, tires, skidplates, etc.), and I'm in WA, too. Im out every weekend, but I wish I could visit some of your trails!
@arob2434
@arob2434 10 ай бұрын
Awesome review showcasing all the functionality of the OBW
@EasyE865
@EasyE865 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love watching you test subarus !!
@sarrum7696
@sarrum7696 Жыл бұрын
It’s worth noting impressive chassis rigidity. When the vehicle gets a wheel up in the air like that and he opens the door and gets out it’s a real testament to the strength of the chassis.
@lolotus4borderless
@lolotus4borderless Жыл бұрын
Love your reviews ❤️
@true-life8370
@true-life8370 Жыл бұрын
Me to lol
@george-ng5gj
@george-ng5gj 11 ай бұрын
Ordered a 2024 OBW, after watching your videos for the 1000th time.
@sisiradesilva9139
@sisiradesilva9139 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! You are a PRO 👍👍👍
@jameso6404
@jameso6404 2 ай бұрын
Excellent review as always. I love my Outback Wilderness. Does everything I need it to do. My gripes are the same as here. The information center is overly complicated and slow responding. Also glitches out occasionally. I wish the heated seat and AC/heat controls were knobs and switch’s and not within the system. Subaru, you almost hit an A+.
@SaltyDog69
@SaltyDog69 Жыл бұрын
I used to have a Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited. We vacationed in Colorado going down forest roads while everyone else was using Jeeps. We had no problems with it and it will get you to 98% of the places you want to be at.
@gregthomas588
@gregthomas588 7 ай бұрын
Just picked one up last night. Can't wait to take it out to the mountain.
@2004SUBARUWRX
@2004SUBARUWRX 11 ай бұрын
I Officially own a 2023 Subaru Outback Wilderness and i have had it since March of 2023, But I haven't tried all of the features on it, and Im really loving everything about it. The reason why I really got this is because I really want to take it on Trails and where My Wrx can't go i can definitely can try This Wilderness out for sure. I was Skeptic at first but I love it even better now.
@Doc1855
@Doc1855 Жыл бұрын
I love watching Subaru’s going off road
@taftfilms7975
@taftfilms7975 Жыл бұрын
Love the video ! thank you for always making great content I would love to see the Subaru Crosstrek Sport VS the Outback Wilderness off road capability ...
@Arid379
@Arid379 Жыл бұрын
Excellent review on this car crossover!
@scott48
@scott48 Жыл бұрын
Got my OBW this summer. Cannot wait for snow here to test. Sr has been very good so far. Zero complaints. Swiss Army knife and won’t cost arm leg to fix if when something goes wrong. Tires too are not over the too expensive to replace compared to other suvs I’ve owned like an X5.
@stephenrosenfeld833
@stephenrosenfeld833 Жыл бұрын
I've had my OBW for a year and I live in eastern Canada. We get snow. The stock tires are nowhere as good in snow as the Blizzaks I put on my previous Forester, but they're acceptable for someone like me. I'm retired and don't have to be anywhere at any particular time, so if it's really bad, I stay home.
@puchatek200
@puchatek200 Жыл бұрын
I love my Outback Wildernes. LIttle gas hungry, but plenty of power and good ground clearance, plus looks much more muscular than regulat outback...which I would never buy lol. Thank you for showing people what this car can do.
@yesmaybe3791
@yesmaybe3791 Жыл бұрын
Best mileage so far after 7000 miles is 21.8 in mixed driving on mine.
@martinr8278
@martinr8278 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to get that wilderness edition…..wayyyy out of my price range. Definitely a very well engineered vehicle for just about anything you want to do
@ShirtlessMenNetwork
@ShirtlessMenNetwork 11 ай бұрын
Since Subarus retain their value so well, and the company's "guaranteed trade-in" bit is one of the most generous such programs out there, a way to get into an OBW is to start with, say, a Premium, especially if you can get a low or 0% APR on financing, pay it down to less than $10k owed, then trade it in and get enough to pay it off and still have enough left over to put an even bigger down payment on the OBW than you did on the Premium. You could very well end up with payments about the same as the Premium (or, at the very least, still within manageable territory), especially depending on what interest rates are doing at that point. It's how I managed to step up to the '24 OBW from the '20 Premium after just shy of three years of payments. And that's with a *higher* interest rate on the OBW than I had on the Premium.
@maximusaugustus6823
@maximusaugustus6823 Жыл бұрын
I have this car, couldn't be happier. It is a snow monster.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
The 9 inches of ground clearance is what is drawing me to this vehicle...we occasionally get some decent snow here in southern Idaho, so a vehicle with ground clearance is a must...the AWD system is capable, but in many cases with different vehicles you are let down by the lack of ground clearance.
@KenCheng
@KenCheng Жыл бұрын
Picking up mine (in the same color) tomorrow!! 😊
@szuberi
@szuberi 3 ай бұрын
How is your ownership experience so far?
@o3Lz
@o3Lz Жыл бұрын
Love your reviews on Subarus! By any chance you will be making more content on the Subaru Ascent? Would love to see if the Ascent can go through your courses
@127Foxtrot
@127Foxtrot 11 ай бұрын
Ryan, just love your AWD Subie content. Given how your testing locations and conditions have evolved over time, I'd love to see how well a stock 2.5L NA current Outback would perform on the Chicken run, Logging Road Rock test, and Muddy Hill climb test. I suspect it won't pass the Muddy Hill due to stock tyres and insufficient power/weight ratio, but it would still be great fun to watch (and not to diss the 2.5L Outback, I have the Australian 2022 model !).
@anthonyjulson8840
@anthonyjulson8840 Жыл бұрын
This channel definitely influenced my decision to buy Subaru!
@BradWilson1969
@BradWilson1969 Жыл бұрын
That mud hill turned those tires into slicks pretty quickly. 😏
@GmGrayfox
@GmGrayfox Жыл бұрын
Love my OBW!
@brandon1076
@brandon1076 Жыл бұрын
Love love love Subaru!!! 4:28
@danieljackson-woods6225
@danieljackson-woods6225 Жыл бұрын
I love my ob wilderness, but the first thing I did to it was upgrade the tires, the ones that come stock aren't the greatest a/t tire. Took it offroading the day I got it to a trail I do all the time in my 2018 crosstrek, and failed on obstacles I've never had issues on. Replaced the tires the next day to the 245/65/r15 toyo open country AT3s and went back to the same trail and smashed it.
@gordon3988
@gordon3988 Жыл бұрын
Alway surprised how well the subie does with X mode on, continues to impress, though if you don’t have it ‘on’ the ‘normal’ mode doesn’t look like it works very well at all. Great video!
@ShirtlessMenNetwork
@ShirtlessMenNetwork 11 ай бұрын
I got the 2020 Premium in September of 2020, and I immediately started hoping for a decent snow event that winter to really test it out. While I waited for the seasons to pass the rest of the year, I put some Falken Wildpeak AT Trail tires on it. Now, the thing about living in the south is that significant snow is an exceedingly rare occurrence, and even then, it might amount to no more than 4-6 inches. But, that winter, we ended up with not one, but two 10" snowstorms one day apart with no melt-off in between. I took my Premium with its 8.7" of ground clearance everywhere, including up the steepest streets we have in my city (and they can get *very* steep). I would even come to a complete stop on them, just to see if it could take off again. It made it up every single 10" or deeper snow-covered hill I tried, and I didn't once have to turn on X-mode (and it only had the single snow/dirt option if I would have, being just the Premium trim). All that's to say that, with some decent tires, X-mode is likely not even needed in the vast majority of adverse driving conditions in which Outback owners might find themselves. Now that I have an OBW with even more ground clearance and a much more powerful engine, I have no doubts about how well it will perform in any conditions I might ever encounter. Driving the Premium in all that snow was effortless and drama-free. I'd never had so much fun in such weather.
@johnnybyup
@johnnybyup Жыл бұрын
I want to see an Acura RDX, Audi Q5, Benz GLB and/or BMW X3 do this course to compare luxury AWD Great video. Thanks for breaking it down.
@Navajo_joe
@Navajo_joe Жыл бұрын
I think Subaru hired you. If so, they did a good job. You are the best Subaru reviewer in the world. Not joking
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
Lol. They didn't hire me, but they do provide a vehicle whenever I request one. Other car makers have the opportunity, but aren't as eager.
@Navajo_joe
@Navajo_joe Жыл бұрын
You well deserved that. Who knows, maybe they will consider soon. Again the best Subaru test videos is yours. I bought Subaru Forester thanks to your detailed, well thought test videos 👏
@goldenrakelawncare6564
@goldenrakelawncare6564 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see this again with actual off road tires, I have a feeling that would change things greatly.
@nick_0
@nick_0 9 ай бұрын
Having the right tires means everything!
@InvertedAerials
@InvertedAerials Жыл бұрын
Ryan, I am a huge fan! I have a 2022 Outback Wilderness in Crystal White. Now I seriously doubt that colour has anything to do with it, but I found that the AWD system learns, as strange as that seems. First time in deep snow @ 1,700 kms (1,000 miles) it didn’t seem nearly as sure footed as it does now, 14,000kms (8,700miles). It’s almost as if the system has to learn. I would be interested to see if a higher mileage Outback Wilderness would do better on the course or whether I am just imagining things.
@thomashanson868
@thomashanson868 Жыл бұрын
I have this car, too. In the cluster over the large infotainment screen, you can modify the content that shows in JUST the top portion of the screen. One choice is ... the percentage of up/ down grade as a display. Doesn't show the gauge with percentage of front/ back AWD, but does show the up/ down of the gradient the car is at. I can't quite remember if you can have the front camera on PLUS this feature but I THINK it can show both. I'll check now that the question arises. An example of when you needed it in this video is at 11:18. You turn on the front camera and so you turn off the vehicle stats. But ... one portion of the infotainment screen at the very TOP is still visible. THAT PORTION can be changed and show the percentage gradient while the camera is on.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
But then you can't have the XMode toggles accessible. Since Mode 1 shuts off at speeds over 25, we need to keep an eye on it to confirm it's on. But outside of that, very good point.
@blob537
@blob537 Жыл бұрын
When the front camera is activated, the top portion of the screen always displays the X-mode buttons, regardless of what you have it set to otherwise. I normally have the angle up top as well, I just use the front camera button as a shortcut to pull those buttons up without having to scroll over.
@formanaliuzdenoff6323
@formanaliuzdenoff6323 Жыл бұрын
can t explane how good these series are. i dig all grid and there s nothing better then this.and SUBARU is best what ever they say...
@michaelbuchweitz1987
@michaelbuchweitz1987 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do more with the ascent.
@LargeGSX1400
@LargeGSX1400 Жыл бұрын
We've finally gotten these in Australia. Placed an order as soon as pricing was announced, supposed to be here in a months time. Watching these videos is helping me get through the waiting game. I notice that you never air down the tyres at all, is that to keep it a level game or just to showcase the X-mode tech working without any external assistance?
@jordanbryant4022
@jordanbryant4022 11 ай бұрын
@Driving Sports TV At the 13:00 mark, when you double-pedal, doesn't x-mode disengage? Thought that especially with the cvt you just give constant throttle at the level you want and x-mode applies brakes for traction
@LionRunner
@LionRunner Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see Honda Pilot Trailsport doing this test as its a direct competitor. Trailsport vs Wilderness 🔥
@oakleytrecartin6524
@oakleytrecartin6524 Жыл бұрын
Pretty good most will never take it this far but good to know it can get you in and out of trouble. Better tires might help
@CanadianMax
@CanadianMax Жыл бұрын
Like a rock star... That could not get over the rock lol
@benjohnson4549
@benjohnson4549 Жыл бұрын
Subaru symmetrical all wheel drive is great for maintaining traction through difficult and slippery conditions such as chickens.
@James6874
@James6874 9 ай бұрын
Great review but when are you going to review a 2022-23 non-wilderness/Onyx outback? Or did I miss it
@chrisbullock6477
@chrisbullock6477 9 ай бұрын
Extremely impressive vehicle. Even more capable with less effort than alot of the full size SUV's
@Kroma1986
@Kroma1986 Жыл бұрын
I put this car through the ringer all across Canada, I never got stuck once, and I was on the top of BC mountains passing jacked up Jeeps
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
That's great to hear. I think these Subarus are far more capable than many give them credit for, especially when you are on light trails and backroads where these cars were really designed to drive on.
@gs98999
@gs98999 Жыл бұрын
Let’s not get too carried away here. No one actually believes these are as capable as 4runners, broncos, Wranglers I hope. That’s not what this competes with.
@jaybou007
@jaybou007 Жыл бұрын
Subie has it easy with me: my short list of two is the Forester Wilderness...and the Outback Wilderness. My only reason to wait to pull the trigger on a deal, at this moment, is that Forester hybrid that's just around the corner. If Subie offers a hybrid Forester Wilderness, shut up and take my money. There's pros and cons to both the Outback and the Forester. Thing is: the lots are so small at the moment that you can't really go for a test drive with both of them right now. I lean towards the Forester, but since i'm living on the country where there's lots of two-lanes highways, I need passing power. So maybe the Forester ain't what i'm looking for. But then again, my dear German Shepherd will probably be more comfortable in the Forester. So i'm still hesitating. Ryan, is that small boxer in the Forester enough when you need to make a quick pass or should I really go for the turbo engine in the Outback?
@rwest5386
@rwest5386 Жыл бұрын
I really like your off road tests. I cross shopped the OBW and the Bronco Sport Badlands, after previously owning two Subaru's and ended up ordering the BS for it's better approach and departure angles plus I hated the touch screen on the OBW. I'd like to see The Bronco Sport Badlands on this course.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
We’ve been asking for one, but Ford hasn’t shipped it up yet.
@JonDZ_Adventuring
@JonDZ_Adventuring Жыл бұрын
You made a good choice R West. I’d say the Bronco Sports badlands is the most capable AWD vehicle in 2022, dethroning the iVTM4 Hondas. Glad Ford and Honda are competing for the top spot, but it’s only ford that offers something in the compact segment that’s capable.
@hdalldayz
@hdalldayz Жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports because Ford is scared it will fall apart
@marcus9511
@marcus9511 Жыл бұрын
I just traded my 2019 Charger for a 2023 Subaru Limited XT last month, and I love how it handles. My only issue is the laggy infotainment system.
@RollerCoasterLineProductions
@RollerCoasterLineProductions Жыл бұрын
Yeah they’re awful. I hate everything crammed in the infotainment.
@eskieman3948
@eskieman3948 Жыл бұрын
@@RollerCoasterLineProductions 3 out of 4 auto infotainment systems suffer the same complaints, no matter how expensive the vehicle. And I agree with you.
@chaddyuan2987
@chaddyuan2987 Жыл бұрын
Random comment! I would love to see you test out a BMW X3 M40i on some of these off road trails -- based on the few videos that are out there on youtube it seems like the x3's brake vectoring is actually pretty good at getting power to the right places so I'm curious to see how it does compared to these dedicated soft roaders.
@52hydra
@52hydra Жыл бұрын
It is possible to get a modern manual trans Subaru on this course? I.e 14-18 forester or newer crosstreks? Interested to see vdc with the 50/50 split.
@ricusmicus5056
@ricusmicus5056 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic content! I've been following for a while now. Is the Xmode in the Wilderness same as the onyx trim level? Asking from Canada.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
1 and 2 are the same. Wilderness has a third mode over 25mph in mode 2 that no other subaru has (according to subaru engineers.)
@mithrandirwhite9823
@mithrandirwhite9823 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ryan, Great review. Are you planning to do an off-road test of the new Pathfinder Rock Creek? How does it's AWD system compare with Honda's iVTM4 system. I am considering this and 2023 Pilot trailsport as my next soft-roader. Thanks.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
When we can get one, yes. We've requested but Nissan hasn't yet agreed.
@keithluethje2590
@keithluethje2590 Жыл бұрын
No I'm gonna have to go out and buy 1! And put the locker installed in the rear!
@Scapegoat319
@Scapegoat319 4 ай бұрын
Has anyone ever tried to use hill descent mode with manual shift with it being in first gear? I do it all the time in snowy and icy conditions and it works great.
@theicon2125
@theicon2125 4 ай бұрын
I’m considering an Outback because I’ve realized that a sedan isn’t for me because I need something that can handle snow better but still fits in my small garage. I also feel like it would possibly be a good vehicle to take hunting unless it was really muddy. My only real “off-roading” experience is going through pastures and when we do that we would normally put the pickup in 4WD Low and first gear. Is there a reason why you don’t use the paddle shifters or manual mode to put it in low for dirt to get less wheel spin? Not trying to backseat drive, just trying to understand if this would handle the terrain I’m envisioning for it.
@Pax-Christi
@Pax-Christi Жыл бұрын
Can you do this exact course in a Forester Sport or Premium/Touring to see how it goes!
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ryan for showing what these Subarus can actually do, unlike another review channel that can't figure it out, you do it right and give the AWD systems time to do their job. Subaru really should hand you their fleet of different vehicles for a full on in depth comparison with every model they have. Maybe a WRX in the future? Although I don't think it would do your course do to ground clearance issues, but a snow course would be interesting with a WRX. The WRX seems more like a rally type car/street car...but the Outback and Forrester models would be something I'd certainly consider. The wilderness models is what I'd choose, just gotta decide betweeen the Outback or Forrester HAHA!! Would be great if Subaru would put a limited slip or selectable locker in the Wilderness models....maybe give them a hint....I bet the car would be almost unstoppable with a locker in many cases. I'm looking at something along the size of what the Toyota Highlander is, would that be a Forrester or Outback?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
Trust me, we give them all sorts of feedback. :) The Highlander would be comparable to the Ascent.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@drivingsports HAHA, I would hope you would give them feedback, its helpful to them I'm sure to hear from people like you who do real world testing. Thank you for the vehicle comparison I'll checkout the Ascent at some point, but would really enjoy the Outback or Forrester with the Wilderness package for sure. The added ground clearance I think would be a huge plus in snow country. Thanks again for all your great honest reviews in places that most people would actually take their vehicles.
@jimsugden1263
@jimsugden1263 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see how the Ford Explorer Timberline does on your course along with other off road leaning SUVs. I remember you didn't seem fond of the Timberline during your last review but I have one and I absolutely love it.
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
I actually really loved the Timberline. It was a bummer we got it at such a tough time of year for snow.
@markmercer436
@markmercer436 Жыл бұрын
Ford is absolute junk, if u value your hard earned money stay away from Ford all together
@RollerCoasterLineProductions
@RollerCoasterLineProductions Жыл бұрын
My crosstrek was in the shop, the dealer loaned me a turbo outback, it wasn’t a wilderness. Those things RIP
@reggierico
@reggierico Жыл бұрын
Does x mode negate the requirement for locking differentials? I've seen that some guys are installing these mods on their Outbacks.
@paul4565
@paul4565 Жыл бұрын
Awesome content as always. Would love to see an off-road test of the new Honda Pilot Trailsport!
@puica123
@puica123 6 ай бұрын
When driving on the highway during a snowstorm, driving (conditions permitting) around or below highway speeds (but over 25mph) is it ever recommended to drive in deep snow mode? Or rather put it in snow mode and when it disengages over 25mph and goes into normal mode, that is sufficient?
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Ryan, Do the burning tire and brake pad particulates add to or detract from the flavor of the free range eggs? 😉
@Wrang15
@Wrang15 Жыл бұрын
I use hill decent on my icy dirt roads roads all winter. It works good with proper tires. The oem tires on the touring xt were a challenge on ice. Really wish it could fit chains like my truck for bad ice.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
Do you notice wheel lockup with the hill decent control going downhill on the snow/ice?
@Wrang15
@Wrang15 Жыл бұрын
@@wildbill23c nope but I don't have oem tires.
@wildbill23c
@wildbill23c Жыл бұрын
@@Wrang15 Probably makes a difference for sure. What tires are you running?
@Wrang15
@Wrang15 Жыл бұрын
@@wildbill23c X ice Snow now for winter. Open Country A/T III out side of snow season.
@Jason-oy2oh
@Jason-oy2oh Жыл бұрын
Love to see Gig Harbor on the map :)
@Dzordzikk
@Dzordzikk Жыл бұрын
Great. Try to imagine how incredible good will be that car with lockers on both axles ...
@TheMetanarrative
@TheMetanarrative Жыл бұрын
It’s be cool to see the RAV4 Hybrid on this course!
@PennsylvaniaDualSport
@PennsylvaniaDualSport Жыл бұрын
I found just turning off VDC in normal mode to be suffice in cross rut situations
@eladreltuc
@eladreltuc 9 ай бұрын
For my next vehicle purchased, I have narrowed down to this or the 2024 ranger. Any thoughts anybody?
@vatsalnaik15
@vatsalnaik15 Жыл бұрын
Would really like to see Forester/outback Limited
@SoCalSurfer69
@SoCalSurfer69 6 ай бұрын
How would it do with more aggressive off-road tires?
@Gscj51964
@Gscj51964 Жыл бұрын
I take it no chickens were harmed in filming 😂🤣
@MyAlexWest
@MyAlexWest Жыл бұрын
chicken again? I noticed one in lexus video!
@billredding2000
@billredding2000 Жыл бұрын
And the chickens negotiated that course easily, with no issues whatsoever-- 100% traction at all times, no slipping. Absolutely amazing. ;-) -- BR
@Gscj51964
@Gscj51964 Жыл бұрын
@@billredding2000 Wonderful chicken articulation! Hey maybe we have a thing there, "Chicken Articulation" are you listening Subaru? ;)
@billredding2000
@billredding2000 Жыл бұрын
@@Gscj51964 Yes, chickens are naturals on varying terrain...maybe Subaru could install "Chicken Algorithm" into their crawl-control? -- BR
@juanguzman3686
@juanguzman3686 7 ай бұрын
I'll take a mechanical locking differential if available even if I have to push/ move a lever.
@deancliff87
@deancliff87 Жыл бұрын
Great Subaru test as always. Any chances of a Land Rover Discovery Sport off road test??
@RoadrashS2K
@RoadrashS2K 10 ай бұрын
A stock nd Miata made it up Imogene pass with a set of tires.. i wonder if this could do that??
@Beauty_SWEET
@Beauty_SWEET Жыл бұрын
Power
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu Жыл бұрын
Chicken 🐔 Power! *(no chickens were harmed during(or after)filming.) 🤣
@Sp-nd6uj
@Sp-nd6uj 6 ай бұрын
I don't understand why this particular awd system requires x-mode in order to have the wheel breaking operate effectively?
@Sampson_503
@Sampson_503 Жыл бұрын
I got the forester wilderness because it’s built in Japan
@HotSizzleTV_
@HotSizzleTV_ Жыл бұрын
I am waiting for the 2024 Toyota 4runner redesigned for my first new suv
@pilot1226
@pilot1226 Жыл бұрын
My only criticism of this trim is that they didn’t offer it with the Harmon Kardon audio package - even as an option.
@JasonWh
@JasonWh 2 ай бұрын
OK team! Welcome to the weekend!!!! This is the drinking game video of the week!! Each time he gets out of the car, take a shot and keep count. The first couple to submit the correct answer wins the weekly pot! Best of luck!!
@beaglesinthesun
@beaglesinthesun Жыл бұрын
Great review! Now that you've done the course in both OW & FW, which one do YOU prefer?
@drivingsports
@drivingsports Жыл бұрын
Forester Wilderness due to the shorter wheelbase, better approach and break-over angles. It had plenty of power for what it is. I liked it so much, I asked Subaru to give us one for a few months so we could do even more adventures with it. They agreed (coming soon).
@danieljackson-woods6225
@danieljackson-woods6225 Жыл бұрын
I really want to see subaru produce a version to truly compete with the 4runner and other SUVs in the off-road category so a true modified off-road suspension and a slightly better approach and departure angles and lower gearing for less momentum driving.
@weekendwarrior8179
@weekendwarrior8179 Жыл бұрын
I would love to take my Cherokee trailhawk on that course.
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