Subscriber Sent Me This Special Edition Quad. Will It Run?

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I buy a Yamaha Yfz450 quad in pieces from a subscriber. Can we get this quad to run? #Quad, #Project, #ClappedOut,
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@brianrebholz8997 2 жыл бұрын

As a retired machinest. Mostly precision grinding and dealing with areas of preasure seals and tight sealing areas . I would advise Getting the surface reworked.

@teemuronkainen 2 жыл бұрын

Yes!!

@broo_shs 2 жыл бұрын

yeah even its dosent matter how small imperfection there is those need to take out and Resurface at its level and can handle big bressures.

@jwilson00m 2 жыл бұрын

I agree. You said that these things blow out head gaskets anyway. No sense in giving it another disadvantage.

@broo_shs 2 жыл бұрын

@@teemuronkainen Greettings From Turku :)

@Bandito071 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely .

@24BLUEELMO 2 жыл бұрын

When you do head gaskets I recommend resurfacing the head and cylinder . At least with a sand paper on a glass or granite surface and doing a 8 motion. That would help the seal and remove warpednes

@bananabrooks3836 2 жыл бұрын

Figure of 8 motion, then lift and turn 90 degrees and repeat until grey coloured uniformity is achieved.

@onehourgarage 2 жыл бұрын

This! 100% will work.

@peteschannel508 2 жыл бұрын

This is what I do too.

@ronhanish Жыл бұрын

what was his outcome?

@ronhanish Жыл бұрын

thats a great idea !! super fine paper

@lukerecore3211 2 жыл бұрын

A little Milky?? That looked like it was a vanilla milkshake.

@joshuakilgallon7459 2 жыл бұрын

THE HEAD NEEDS TO BE FIXED!!! What you got is known as a torched head, even the smallest imperfection on the head that can interfere with the head gasket WILL make it leak no matter how small. I would either send it in and have it fixed or weld it with some aluminum welding sticks and resurface the head. Good luck 2vintage 👍

@JJLyon-xg5co 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe sand the head a little on the granite block with sandpaper just to make sure it's level.

@Ed-cg7dl 2 жыл бұрын

If I ever ask myself “will this be fine” I know immediately, off rip, that it’s so definitely not fine lol.

@coopdoesit7442 2 жыл бұрын

Boy you a gluten for punishment with them YFZs 😆 the only way you can get one that isn't junk is get it as close to new and stock as possible!!

@Ed-cg7dl 2 жыл бұрын

That mating surface will give you nothing but grief down the line. Having it resurfaced is undoubtedly the move. Given it’s the fiftieth anniversary and a one year only color-way, I imagine you ask a little bit more for this one all cleaned up and dialed. Knock those stickers back, dial it in, clean it up, and you’re in great shape. You know all this. Much love from Massachusetts.

@benjamindavidson632 2 жыл бұрын

Fix the head for sure.

@kyleman55555 2 жыл бұрын

Just rebuild an 07 Yz250f that’s having trouble idling for long with the choke off now, going to check my carb boot! You literally taught me everything I needed to know to complete my rebuild lol thank you

@2vintage 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome, glad I could help! Hopefully it's the carb boot causing you problems!

@adambooth9630 2 жыл бұрын

I suggest getting the valve clearances checked, that is a common sighn

@kyleman55555 2 жыл бұрын

@@adambooth9630 I’m going to recheck that as well as I know one of the exhaust valves was left out of clearance spec as I didn’t have the proper shim. That being said the valves were further out of spec before I started the rebuild and it idles fine.

@Diamondboi-pj2in 2 жыл бұрын

@@2vintage what’s your plans on it??

@onekick 2 жыл бұрын

Just resurface it your self! Get sand paper and something that is super flat and slide the head across it in a Circle motion.

@jeremyjones2191 2 жыл бұрын

I love that you try but you've had so many machines you need to start learning from your mistakes!!

@davebarrowcliffe1289 2 жыл бұрын

When you know in your heart of hearts its a cylinder head gasket problem but you're in denial... 🤣🤣🤣

@adambooth9630 2 жыл бұрын

Do it all while your in there, piston, valve seals, cam chain, and get that head surface machined👍

@user-fi3fx5my2s 5 ай бұрын

Got hands full with this one... As soon a customers drop off bikes we do quick oil check for that, part of the diag process now, also compression test. Then we can give a good quote.

@dublinbikereire 2 жыл бұрын

You should put a litre of average oil through it to try and flush all that nasty oil out before putting fresh good oil in

@ttime4731 2 жыл бұрын

Easy to tell if you have a low spot in that area on the head. Colour the surface with marker then use some super fine grade sand paper (2000grit) or close then place on perfectly flat surface and run the mating surface over the sandpaper a few times and the low areas should show as the marker will have not been removed. Then you should have your answer. Good luck with it. 🤟

@corporalclegg914 2 жыл бұрын

I love the Classic Black & White Yamaha Decals against the Yellow. it’s classy every time & reminds many dudes of the Old YZs from when Moto-X was Moto-X.

@corporalclegg914 2 жыл бұрын

Moto-X was ridden outdoors by guys (with full time jobs) that slept in vans/campers/tents (not motor coaches or hotels) on weekends for glory, #1 plates and/or a modest $ purse to those on the podium. I mean no disrespect to contemporary riders & their equipment, mechanics & comforts…that’s just progress.a ‘78 Yamaha YZ100 taught me how to be a better rider in 1989, so when I got a hot CR125, I was ready to rip.

@just_in_time5518 2 жыл бұрын

Cant wait to watch at lunch brake!

@PiazzaWoodWorks 2 жыл бұрын

I’d be checking piston and rings! Head gasket fix won’t stop all that smoke sheesh

@trose7620 Жыл бұрын

Sounds good! Gonna be a runner. That guy basically gave that to you, spendy bike!

@ni_wink84 2 жыл бұрын

Top of the piston looked that good because it was literally being steam cleaned 😂, surface that head it’s worth the effort to know the surface is true and flat

@upperroomtoo 2 жыл бұрын

That is definitely the cause of the smoking. Take some spray contact cement and glue a sheet of sand paper to a piece of glass or other flat surface and lay the head on it and evenly rub the head across the paper changing directions a couple times. Then apply a little copper coat spray to the gasket. Boom, done! You got this.

@MaxsGarajMahal 2 жыл бұрын

As an old Machinist. That head surface is toast. Surface it and check the jug mating surface as well.

@briancrull8678 2 жыл бұрын

Fix the head if the most problems with this model revolves around head gasket issues . Looks porous even if it seals at first . I bet the moment the machinist looks at it he’ll agree that will be a problem if not addressed

@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын

The pre - fuel injected models had a few issues but 2010 an up the YFZ450 is easily the GOAT. Best sport /race quad of all time.

@craigmorgan4676 2 жыл бұрын

@@Davido50 are u sure bout that bro?🤔🤣🤔🤔

@DohcJames 2 жыл бұрын

Sandpaper on a piece of glass is the best way to clean heads in my experience, can also resurface just time consuming.

@gettin_while_growin1512 2 жыл бұрын

First thing I would of done before buying it is....Check the oil lol,try starting it up and see if it may be locked up,and check if it goes in gear and at least try to push start it a little and listen for noises.Could of gotten a better price maybe

@bdog4u2 2 жыл бұрын

Even in this condition he basically stole it. A little love and a little machine work he can resell for $4500-$5000

@gettin_while_growin1512 2 жыл бұрын

@@bdog4u2 wow I was way off on pricing 🙄😆.I feel stupid now 🤧🤣

@allensnook7760 2 жыл бұрын

Joe.may as well send it in for work since cam lid bolts are stripped in head also that will be insurance things get tight and that bad spot is better sealing tolerances.may as well do two birds with one stone.worth the wait.snooky pa.💥✌️👍💥

@BrendanVman 2 жыл бұрын

Your content is the best,you put out more videos than any other channel... your deffently a inspiration for others to fix their own junk..

@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын

Don't let your dirtbikes an quads go to junk I say. Keep em clean an running top notch . They are super expensive new!

@rideallegretto1933 2 жыл бұрын

Goonzquad and Matt’s off road recovery also post videos this often👍

@childishbark3084 2 жыл бұрын

I had one of these a few years ago. I got it cheap bc it needed the valves adjusted and it’s the most fun I’ve ever had on a quad. I’m more of a dirt bike guy but I’ll forever love that thing

@duramaxdave4602 2 жыл бұрын

Coolant jackets in head could be cracked causing coolant to leak in through the valve holes. Id take a flashlight and inspect them and maybe pull valves and check valve holes. Could also be cylinder coolant jackets

@dominicwebb8000 2 жыл бұрын

Plate of glass and a sheet of 400 grit wet and dry sandpaper. Remove the studs on the bottom and just gently flatten the head surface. You can then see if the damage is ok to run with. Afterwards use a decent straight edge (steel ruler) to check for flatness.

@kayakmc7 2 жыл бұрын

YFZ 450 head bolts are torque-to-yield, which means they can only be used once. After that they can be problematic and unreliable. Bought one once that didn’t run for that reason. Replaced with new bolts and ran fine.

@11GalleryATV 2 жыл бұрын

I'm currently building a 2006 YFZ450! Useful video, thanks!

@chadmartin3833 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree with you guys on milling the head. I run my own mechanic shop and always send the head off to be milled and valves and shit re-seated

@Diamondboi-pj2in 2 жыл бұрын

I’m super hyped I love your Vids I learn something new every time

@Diamondboi-pj2in 2 жыл бұрын

I have massive respect for you I want a kx250 or kx450f dirtbike I’d love to see you build a 90s Kawasaki kx250 I’m in Wisconsin too also but I’m working on getting a 97 Suzuki rm125 I’m super excited

@bertdasilva3865 2 жыл бұрын

Wow , looks like a complicated motor, them 2 strokes, sont even compare. 👏

@user-fi3fx5my2s 5 ай бұрын

Had one cone in a few weeks ago, guy said its using oil. So he added some fresh heavier oil to it. He put full container of engine restorer and hlf qt of 80w 90 gear lube in it. It ran, but my god did it do some damage. Still waiting for parts, he said do whatever we need to do to fix it. Had to have all new piston, ring, crank, etc.

@danebowen729 2 жыл бұрын

Stock jetting on the 2006 was a 155 main and 42 pilot. 2004/05 had a 158 main stock. They went down in 2006. Don't forget to add a half a turn or so on the air/fuel screw! Will definitely help.

@broo_shs 2 жыл бұрын

i've use syncro metter tools to set carpurators in car or bikes,mopeds because if the flows are low or too high then its effect how engine run.

@dryreality3629 2 жыл бұрын

That oil looks like whats in my toilet after a hard weekend

@allensnook7760 2 жыл бұрын

Need more fiber less liquid fuel,ha!!!!

@gtisid 2 жыл бұрын

i think if you have a hunch it might be an issue, it will be. i was expecting a crack somewhere tbh but i think you have found the answer with that head surface. pretty sure it will clean up well with a bit of tlc and makes some money if done right

@neumansown 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to watch now

@Codyjames83 2 жыл бұрын

Just surface the head a little use a flat peace of glass to work on and really fine sandpaper you'll see the low spots pretty fast doesn't look like it needs much

@markeithpeacock222 2 жыл бұрын

Yall get it going no doubt

@RATADATUAVELHA 2 жыл бұрын

I would level that head for sure because if you mount it and the leak is still there then you'll have twice the work.

@maddtech348 2 жыл бұрын

I'd definitely agree with the spot u think on the head between it and the valve. Along with head bolts not being so tight. I'd send her better then doing it twice. That for sure cud have been it. Good luck man

@BIG.STEVE13 2 жыл бұрын

Give you a tip clean out the case with diesel it's oil base and will clean out the crap as well

@jasongedney4911 2 жыл бұрын

the previous owner wanted a suzuki im guessing with the blue touches great job with the videos the anodized caps you see on the rear calipers are usually e-brake deletes keep up the good work and good buys

@blythdunlap8408 2 жыл бұрын

I'd say to ask yourself one thing.. "If I were buying this quad, how would I have wanted it fixed?". Great vids..keep at it!

@benny8300 2 жыл бұрын

@@bdog4u2 I agree he half asses all his machines. Always in a hurry to ride them

@Scott-gt6od 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome as always

@backgardentips 2 жыл бұрын

Following all way from uk watch all your vids learn alot id deffo sort the head out dont think just a gasket would do. Do it right first time save in the long run

@bradleynevills4444 2 жыл бұрын

I would change the valve seal's since you're in there and on the head do a light sand on a flat peace of steel with 2000 grit sandpaper

@johnnyjohnson2942 2 жыл бұрын

Its called a Bumble Bee as far as color and stripes, or thats what we called it back in the day.

@georgeconnors2755 Жыл бұрын

Definitely bring it to a shop

@owenbergeson2324 2 жыл бұрын

Get your cylinder head resurfaced, it’s a better idea than running it like that. I have a 04 yz250f that I rebuilt for cheap and it had a divot in the head so I got it resurfaced for $150

@brucesizemore739 2 жыл бұрын

If you get the head shaved slightly it will seal better and give slight bump in compression. Depending on the cost it's a win, win. Lol. Keep up the good work.

@AFierce0ne 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely needs to be resurfaced in my opinion.

@DownsouthMan Жыл бұрын

Definitely re surface it. All positive

@jmendo2546 2 жыл бұрын

That Head will leak under pressure for sure, its to pitted. It probably could be aluminum welded. it won't warp, but would need resurfacing after. Should be cheaper under $100, than a differant used head $200+

@micflynn1 2 жыл бұрын

For the head gasket I always use permatex copper head gasket sealant the spray can type you spray both sides of the head gasket down real good turns it gold colored when it tack up and put it on I've used it on head gasket so you wouldn't believe would ever seal and it works great!!

@2vintage 2 жыл бұрын

I bought some of that to try out. I will test it out net video!

@KowboyUSA 2 жыл бұрын

The fun potential is strong with this one.

@mmaaddict78 2 жыл бұрын

On the head, you can take a sharpie and color that damaged area black. Then take a very fine grit large whetstone and run it over the surface and you’ll see if you have any low spots where leakage may occur on the sealing surface.

@dryreality3629 2 жыл бұрын

I also think everybody who has commented in this video should get a free tshirt and sweeter from your merch

@beaucantrell2525 2 жыл бұрын

Pull out the locating pin. Find a flat/level surface 800 to 1000 grit sand paper wet it down and resurface it your self and send it . It don't look too deep .

@chrisbishop953 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would definitely have a machine shop make the call on the head. I would certainly have it resurfaced or replaced.

@waynesart8385 2 жыл бұрын

My Canadian brother amazing vid as always. Im a mechanic of 20yrs n still learn from your vids. This should be compulsary viewing for all apprentices 🤣

@trose7620 Жыл бұрын

Change that base gasket, trust me don't chance it bud! Head needs a machining, or a good cleaning and leveling out.

@flickeronthedashboardstudi5126 2 жыл бұрын

its really nice JOE

@nickgruber2593 2 жыл бұрын

Roll with it and see what happens!

@chadmartin3833 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's another thing. Sequence and torque specs are a must. I can't work with my brother and his friend cause they never torques shit. They offer to help me in my shop and I pissed them off cause I told them no. My name is on that and don't want a lawsuit. I mean fallow torque specs you should never worry

@braap_brody 2 жыл бұрын

Get some copper coat gasket spray tack it should fill in those little pits on the head, when I did a top end on a ltz 400 I used to own I did that and it held up without an issue

@lukebommelje4088 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome content man keep up the good work we all love it

@oliverrandall8885 2 жыл бұрын

These videos never get old lol

@justinsanchez6709 Жыл бұрын

Just because you don't see any coolant leaking on the exterior of the motor does not mean it doesn't have a blown head gasket. Most commonly they are leaking inside

@c0munguyforcaz 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video!

@Mikeofindy Жыл бұрын

My all time favorite atv right there

@m8fusion712 2 жыл бұрын

Great video

@Dm-cr5lk 2 жыл бұрын

Keep up the content. Fix the 500 with the wobble another speed test

@riccochet704 2 жыл бұрын

2V: look at how much oil was in it ...... Me: you and I have different opinions on what is considered oil

@Justinhofmann88 2 жыл бұрын

That's prolly the original oil from the factory lmao

@trose7620 Жыл бұрын

Aftermarket gaskets for top ends have become suspect in last 10 years. If that's got a metal head gasket it's probably leaking internally. See it all the time.

@bakedroosterz4386 2 жыл бұрын

In regards to the Head I guess it all depends on whether , A- like being stranded. B- want to push it back. C- what's your time is worth. The last guy probably thought it would be fine too. A good tech would go ahead and just have it resurfaced or replace it pending cost vs value, a seasoned Pro-Tech that warranties his work would very likely to go as far as replacing the head bolts ,especially it's torque to yield. If you don't then there's no reason to get a new head gasket and use the old one clean it up with some Scotch-Brite Debbie some rvt and or graphite on it and crank it down tight +5% . when it fails in the future that is where it will fail. you seem like a smart dude so, I know where you pretty much lineup on that or you wouldn't of asked about 3 times. Either way pretty informative can't wait to see running.

@lt-z-quadnation6644 2 жыл бұрын

Send it to the machine shop for sure. That might screw you 6 ways till Sunday if you don’t.

@jeremyjones2191 2 жыл бұрын

You should always check the oil before you even try to attempt starting anything! Rookie move tbh

@shaynedonnelly374 2 жыл бұрын

lmao he has videos trying to start and even running bikes with no oil which he realized in both situations after after he checked. Also I don’t think he’s ever heard of assembly lube other than maybe wd40 because every rebuild top or bottom he’s done gets no lube. He is entertaining to watch though like a car crash lol

@g6rida07 2 жыл бұрын

Love this channel

@johnscovel3170 2 жыл бұрын

JOE GOT HOSED AGAIN !!!!!!!

@MM_in_Havasu 2 жыл бұрын

I'd get that head decked if I were you. At least JB weld the corroded spots and resurface the head on a deck plate.

@joedeckinflyover 2 жыл бұрын

Send the head to be milled , out have it off I've never had a milled head and gasket fail ! I've had heads that didn't get milled fail .

@6.7Rollin 2 жыл бұрын

deck the head. an raise the cylinder with 1 additional gasket, just like they did with the quadzilla motor

@polishoskar2039 2 жыл бұрын

If you have any thick glass glue sand paper to it and do figure 8s couple of times on 600 sand paper and it's be brand new

@tjanusz3 2 жыл бұрын

send that head to millinium technologies near waldo wisconsin. they do awesome work!!!!!!!!!!!!

@gajmtaj 2 жыл бұрын

Hey joe ! Dont forget cam bolt heli coil too . Dont know if a second hand head is an option ? the other ones you have off other 450 were junk wasnt they ? Id maybe get it mildly cut /surfaced ? and heli coil . Nice looking bike it will be tho . Turning in to a yamaha quad shop hehe ! All the best :-)

@unhingedoutdoors6492 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely needs head work love the content

@petershute3580 5 ай бұрын

Get it repaired can never be too careful

@aaronbrunelle6604 2 жыл бұрын

You should fix it yourself resurfacing your own head is easy thing to do! All you need is a 100% flat surface, 320-400 grit sandpaper, wd40 and some patience. I'm sure you can do it and it would make some good content for your followers. If you want to see it done, Mike Sabo does it on all his motors you can see it done in his video's!

@travisharvey883 2 жыл бұрын

Not just the seal bad will make it leak out of the weep hole, if the shaft is worn it will make it leak too

@smoothlover073 2 жыл бұрын

You could use liquid high temp gasket maker with the head gasket and just use a small amount all around

@caseykesman1978 2 жыл бұрын

I would definitely get it fixed or replaced.

@kenbaker6177 2 жыл бұрын

To check a head gasket leaking in the coolant system couldn't you just apply 25 lb of pressure to cylinder and see if it leaks through radiator

@2vintage 2 жыл бұрын

Yes that is a goo idea! I will try that next video!

@nicholascaudill6185 2 жыл бұрын

By the looks of that head it has never been milled let alone cleaned. Planing/resurfacing/decking a head using a flat surface with fine grit sandpaper is always a must when there are deformities present. Make sure to check what compression ratio the current aftermarket piston.. that will give you an idea what your squish is going to be after you resurface the head. Also it would be wise to check the surface of the old cylinder as well. That will tell you how long the problem has existed. The number one talent that a good mechanic must have is the ability to diagnose an issue... you my friend are second to none! Now all you need are the right tricks and tools up your sleeve to resolve these issues. I've followed you now for a few years and your progress has astounded me! Keep up the great work!