Succession Season 4 Ep 10 - The Betrayal Scene

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Amazing scene. All rights to HBO.
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@henrymark2288
@henrymark2288 Жыл бұрын
“I love you, but you are not serious people”
@bigoltits1880
@bigoltits1880 Ай бұрын
he didn't really love them though. that part was a lie. Some fans tend to lionize Logan, just because he knew what he was doing business-wise (most of the time). But Logan was the worst most immoral character on that show and he made them the way they are. He's blaming them for his mistakes
@Takhar7
@Takhar7 Жыл бұрын
I've never felt as devastated & completely drained by a character, as I felt for Kendall after this. Just absolutely shattering. His whole life was gearing towards this moment, and he nearly had it, and then it was swept completely away from him.
@derlich09
@derlich09 11 ай бұрын
He should have jumped. It would have been a better ending.
@Takhar7
@Takhar7 11 ай бұрын
@@derlich09 he may well have, we just didn't see it
@TheSuperNats
@TheSuperNats 11 ай бұрын
Are you guys really serious? Kendall was unfairly made to obsess over this by Logan. He’s not cut out for it (that’s a good thing) he’s an addict to cope with this. I’m so stunned at how many people think Kendall should’ve taken over, and that him not getting it is a tragedy. This business is a cancer on all of them. And tbh Kendall’s skills are mediocre at best. His reaction just shows how he shouldn’t run it.
@Takhar7
@Takhar7 11 ай бұрын
@TheSuperNats read my post again. Slowly. I didn't say anything of the things that you commented on. LOL
@tonystonks4489
@tonystonks4489 11 ай бұрын
@@derlich09 there is a thing called subtlety
@crabbieappleton
@crabbieappleton 11 ай бұрын
I love how quickly the dynamic in the room changes because of Roman: "Wait, what do you mean, 'Which'?"
@KingKien95
@KingKien95 5 ай бұрын
Which is exactly why even tho this was pretty devastating for Kendall. He definitely would've screwed it up tbh
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 4 ай бұрын
And even worse, Kendall denied the story of him killing someone (on accident) which just making it worse.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 5 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, the other employees who saw all of that; Thank God, none of them are the CEO!
@quietek1074
@quietek1074 5 ай бұрын
Meanwhile human furniture from ATN: For God sake why, He was already going to jail twice!
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 3 ай бұрын
​@@quietek1074Who would anyone choose to be the CEO if the candidate look like this: 1. The son of the CEO who is a drug addict, can't take criticism, insecure and childish. 2. The other son of the CEO who is a pervert, making sex jokes, making weird noise and likes to jerk off and even hit on the only female senior executive. 3. The daughter of the CEO who just enters the company, never working, talk too much, and rude. 4. The grand nephew of the CEO who is socially awkard but tall and join the company because of nepotism. But, he's actually a backstabber and likes to play both sides for his own advantage. 5. The manager of the cruise and park and then later the news entertainment who works at the company for so long and even married the daughter of CEO.
@marcusshakur3481
@marcusshakur3481 Жыл бұрын
The employee hugging herself while facing the wall kills me everytime lmao See no evil, hear no evil, you don’t have to testify against wealthy evil.
@mandolen3317
@mandolen3317 11 ай бұрын
No, she is actually laughing so hard she can't breathe and turned around so Shiv doesn't feel even more embarrassed
@Huddy52
@Huddy52 7 ай бұрын
​@@mandolen3317"why you 25 but you look 40" 🤭👀
@thegoldenmolar
@thegoldenmolar 4 ай бұрын
@@Huddy52”ah, what a nice seasoning cabinet we have here!”
@G.Snackwell
@G.Snackwell 11 ай бұрын
I love Roman's delivery of "you have no kids" - what a messed up scene.
@rickkinnebrew1364
@rickkinnebrew1364 11 ай бұрын
Kendall season 3: F the patriarchy! Kendall finale: I'm the eldest boy!
@corinne6011
@corinne6011 10 ай бұрын
Among the ROY-ALS the ELDEST BOY inherits of power and girls are pushed aside.
@mschell8022
@mschell8022 7 ай бұрын
He's not even the eldest boy
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 5 ай бұрын
Kendall Season 1: A Broken Man Kendall Season 2: Blaming his dad for the cruise scandal Kendall Season 3: Broken but still gets support from his siblings and seemingly killing his daughter's rabbit with bagel but rabbit is a herbivore (we have no idea about what happen to the rabbit afterwards but I think it dies) Kendall Season 4: Being completely broken altogether
@justagrlwithnoname
@justagrlwithnoname 2 ай бұрын
Lmao it’s so true
@ainsgrant
@ainsgrant Жыл бұрын
Shiv definitely lived up to her name in this episode.
@missile87redefined25
@missile87redefined25 11 ай бұрын
Shiv the Shiv lol
@thecuriousboi
@thecuriousboi 4 ай бұрын
hopefully she dies if they ever make a sequel bitch is worse than skylar
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 4 ай бұрын
For anyone didn't know, Shiv is the short of Shiva, the God of Destruction on Hindunism
@djimenez371ify
@djimenez371ify 4 ай бұрын
@@margarethmichelina5146 Shiv is short for her characters full name which is irish in origin
@dddestruction527
@dddestruction527 3 ай бұрын
@@margarethmichelina5146Shiv is short for Siobhan. A shiv is a concealed blade used for stealth killing.
@oozieneinmillimeeda
@oozieneinmillimeeda Жыл бұрын
1:26 Shiv looks so much like Logan here
@EliTheGleason
@EliTheGleason Жыл бұрын
Holy shit good eye, that expression is so good
@rodolfomezaalvarado8004
@rodolfomezaalvarado8004 5 ай бұрын
She's the one that's more like Logan
@BatmanHQYT
@BatmanHQYT 3 ай бұрын
The eyebrows!
@therealkendallroy
@therealkendallroy 2 ай бұрын
@@rodolfomezaalvarado8004 no way, she's fooled by so many people on the show.
@kena.8003
@kena.8003 2 ай бұрын
Not quite sure how she did that. Incredible acting.
@lessthanthreemetal
@lessthanthreemetal 6 ай бұрын
Roman's little "you have no kids" is hilarious
@busterandrews
@busterandrews 3 ай бұрын
I only saw the first season, but was that true?
@lessthanthreemetal
@lessthanthreemetal 3 ай бұрын
@@busterandrews his two kids were revealed in the finale to be illegitimate
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 2 ай бұрын
@@busterandrews Think about it, Sophie doesn't look like Kendall or Rava even her skin is browner compared to Rava who is half Indian. If you look closely, Iverson doesn't look like both of them either. So, either Kendall adopted those 2 or probably either Kendall or Rava used baby tube program for Iverson or both of them having a sperm donor to have a kid. Either way, none of the kids look like Kendall and Rava. Also, Shiv's future kid will used Wambsgans on its last name unless Shiv and Tom want to have Wambsgans-Roy for the kid's last name. So, the only thing they can continue the bloodline of Roys is either Connor and Willa want to have baby soon or Roman is getting married but dude can't even have sex to his exes because of him feeling awkward to be touched by women.
@patrickloftus_
@patrickloftus_ 2 ай бұрын
Even in this scene I hate Roman the most.
@franksaldana6570
@franksaldana6570 Ай бұрын
@@lessthanthreemetalwhen was it revealed? Besides Roman’s speculation was there ever confirmation that Kendall wasn’t the father?
@emilioqlozano2318
@emilioqlozano2318 Жыл бұрын
Season 3 ended with the 3 siblings coming together. This season ended with their relationship falling apart
@retrobat153
@retrobat153 Жыл бұрын
To be fair roman and shiv are still cool with eachother. Kendal will probably hate them forever
@micow9951
@micow9951 11 ай бұрын
@@retrobat153 until he realizes that it was for the best that he didn't win for his own mental health he should grow out of wanting that position to heal
@retrobat153
@retrobat153 11 ай бұрын
@@micow9951 That's what a healthy and normal person would do but kendal is neither. I dont think hell off himself but he will live a boring life doing absolutely nothing of improtance He could OD too but IDK if I could see him doing that
@criadocerrado782
@criadocerrado782 11 ай бұрын
life goes on man, its a TV Show, who knows? @@retrobat153
@Babushkaboi2006
@Babushkaboi2006 6 ай бұрын
​@@micow9951i mean the decesion could've been delivered in a better way by shiv And the reason for her making that decesion wasn't because she gave two fucks about her brother or his mental health It was becaus shes a jealous petty bitch that couldn't stand her brithers winning
@scottytoohotty1986
@scottytoohotty1986 4 ай бұрын
“It’s disgusting, you’re disgusting!” Just love that line.
@ghalikabbaj8861
@ghalikabbaj8861 6 ай бұрын
Rome summarising the whole show and family in his monologue at the end.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 4 ай бұрын
Roman and Connor are the only siblings who are self aware in the end except Connor has been surviving alone with no love for a long time while Roman just got the face of reality for the last 2 seasons. Also, what happened with him and Tabitha? Did they break up? He's never mentioning her again in Season 3 as he's single and even he keeps flirting with Gerri. We never see her again after Logan 50th's anniversary of the company.
@rych7852
@rych7852 4 ай бұрын
@@margarethmichelina5146Thats my biggest problem with the show. Too much happens off screen that never gets explained.
@andrewstephens5885
@andrewstephens5885 Жыл бұрын
This whole scene just breaks my heart
@ellespencer8563
@ellespencer8563 Жыл бұрын
I love that Roman protects his sister. “She’s pregnant you POS!” It’s a sweet sibling moment of humanity for him
@micow9951
@micow9951 11 ай бұрын
I missed that thank you
@shortanimationz
@shortanimationz 11 ай бұрын
After he said his nephew and niece are a couple of randos lol
@Nopanop
@Nopanop 11 ай бұрын
Right after he told his brother that your kids arent real and not part of their bloodline ❤. Not to mention also silently support watching all his brothers dreams and ambitions go down the drain due to someone's insecurity
@XTheLolX301
@XTheLolX301 6 ай бұрын
​@@Nopanophe was neutral until Kendall lied about the guy he killed and tried to make it forget just to push his own ego for the CEO position over the destroyed bond moment they had , Kendall deserved his ending, not serious people
@Nopanop
@Nopanop 6 ай бұрын
@@XTheLolX301 he wasnt neutral , he was jus looking for an excuse to stab his brother like the 🐍 he is. Kendall deserved to be ceo , he was as serious as anyone on the show
@kena.8003
@kena.8003 2 ай бұрын
This show...it's such a masterclass in everything - acting, directing, writing, score, I could go on and on.
@shyapeehwag
@shyapeehwag 11 ай бұрын
I'm gonna miss these characters. Talk about a series going out on top.
@lga4187
@lga4187 11 ай бұрын
One thing I've never seen mentioned is that the whole boardroom can hear him lying about the waiter he killed.
@mariakrauszowska3786
@mariakrauszowska3786 4 ай бұрын
Hi did not kill him!!!! He was not driving..
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 2 ай бұрын
Also, noticed how the entire time, Kendall is the only one who's screaming while Roman and Shiv are talking with their lower voice because most of the time Kendall can't read the room and environment. And later, Kendall has audicity to come back to Board Meeting Room and asked the Board Meeting members to adjourn the meeting even though they saw him yelling at his younger siblings, having a childish meltdown, squeezing Roman's skull, trying to attack Shiv who's pregnant. It's also ironic how the entire season 4 is about them talking about the Board Meeting and want to stop the Gojo Deal so badly and all of them blew it up on this scene. They also forget about their planning to buy the Pierce, release The Hundred and Living Plus. -PGN is still working but they're still doing the old ways as Waystar has gone modern with Gojo on their streaming service and PGN is gonna dying soon also as far as I remember, Nan Pierce doesn't have children and her husband already died, she only has her relatives and nobody can continue PGN legacy on the family. -The Hundred is Roman's idea but also Kendall wants to help him to organize it but since all of the siblings don't want to talk no more (unless Connor want to reunite them if he wants to), the plan is abandoned and Roman can't do it without Kendall as Roman is mostly dependant to Kendall or someone else -Living Plus project is eventually never happened because Kendall is not in the company anymore. Also, Mattson who is controlling Waystar right now never agree of that plan and will erase it altogether and it never happenes. Long story short: Logan Roy's legacy died.
@annkey4091
@annkey4091 3 күн бұрын
@@mariakrauszowska3786 Kendall was driving. The waiter pulled on the wheel because Kendall was not paying attention to the road and would have hit a deer.
@nk-salinger
@nk-salinger Жыл бұрын
I was mind blowing when Roman starts to make a lot of common sense
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 3 ай бұрын
I also thinking maybe he used 200 IQ move by mocking Kendall's kids not his to let Shiv escape and also show everyone how Kendall is completely unhinged by making Kendall attacking him. Also, after getting his stitches bleeding back at Logan's office, Roman also look down and uncomfortable because his big bro who used to protect him become a monster just like his dad was. Also, he said "No" on the vote for a long time. He's also following Kendall who follows Shiv to different room not to bully Shiv but instead to stop him to attack Shiv who is pregnant. Usually, Roman is always Kendall's Yes man but on this situation, he fights back and stand up to himself. Also, Roman never interested to be CEO anyway, he just wants his dad's approval.
@capitalt3977
@capitalt3977 Жыл бұрын
The first time I saw this I didn't notice how much of a Logan facial expression Shiv makes at 1:30.
@RhodesidesReviews
@RhodesidesReviews 11 ай бұрын
Yesss I thought this too. Amazing acting
@mattdick6167
@mattdick6167 11 ай бұрын
0:40 was the final nail in the coffin for Ken
@missile87redefined25
@missile87redefined25 11 ай бұрын
Still thinking about this finale. Such a tremendous show
@mescc1247
@mescc1247 11 ай бұрын
This scene was so powerfull, the crash between them it was really intense and the acting was superb
@aidacailar1126
@aidacailar1126 5 ай бұрын
An incredible powerful ending indeed. It makes perfect sense that Shiv doesn't want to vote for him but at the same time its impossible not to feel bad for Kendall.
@Bethune_Groundstaff
@Bethune_Groundstaff 9 ай бұрын
One of the most uncomfortable scenes ever
@lukesomasundram6725
@lukesomasundram6725 3 ай бұрын
It's so wonderful how smoothly and invisibly the show just shifts who we root for, who with sympathise with. I got on Team Kendall with the "meal fit for a king" scene, but the second he denied the murder, also destroying that one moment of honesty in the dirt that bounded him and the sibs, he lost me again.
@dadman3992
@dadman3992 3 ай бұрын
Even as Kendall is gouging Roman's eyes out Roman keeps saying "you have no kids" lol
@cainandabel7059
@cainandabel7059 Жыл бұрын
2:28 the thing i find disturbing is that we can see Roman smile when Kendall attacks him and then he does not even raise his arms or defends himself. And then his comment "you have no kids". Roman clearly enjoys this.
@andrewstephens5885
@andrewstephens5885 Жыл бұрын
Good catch. This story is so overtly and subtly tragic
@BossAttack
@BossAttack 6 ай бұрын
I know I'm late here, but Roman does not enjoy any of this. His smile his how he's learned to cope with conflict. This entire scene is great because you witness each character's worse traits as a result of their upbringing. Roman was physically abused by Logan, the way he learned how to cope was not to fight back and to seem non-threatening. This is why he's always joking or saying fucked up shit. If he's always saying something weird, and maybe gets daddy to laugh, then maybe daddy Logan won't hit him today. He's not going to fight Kendall, because he's never stood up when faced with actual conflict, especially a physical confrontation. But we do notice how he immediately jumps to Shiv's defense when Kendall goes for her.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 3 ай бұрын
What if Roman used 200 IQ move to make Kendall attacks him so the people on outside of the office can see who Kendall really is? Because look at the room, it's on transparent glass and people can see what happened. Also, Kendall constantly yelling to his siblings as Kendall doesn't always look at his environment. So, people see Kendall as a peculiant child who bully his younger siblings to get what he wants. Roman also looking embarrased when Kendall talks to Shiv and bragging her to change her mind. He even questioned whether or not Kendall killed the waiter.
@EBrown-cr1gr
@EBrown-cr1gr 4 ай бұрын
For Kendall, it was always a coronation. Something he was supposed to have, not anything he ever really wanted. When something is expecated for so long, you believe it's what you want. That's the problem with legacy when parents die.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 2 ай бұрын
In the end of the day, the siblings are clueless on real world. They don't know how to grow up, they don't know how to take responsibility, the way they want CEO position is like kids wanting their toys. Logan also was wrong to promise the CEO position to them one by one, because of this, they become arrogant and fight each other just because "Daddy told me!" They thought, they're gonna fight Logan, Mattson or Tom but the real enemies are themselves. They can't trust each other, they can't coorporate and they are indeed still the kids outside their dad's office. They treat the company like their playground but they are oblivious because they are too spoiled. The scene of them arguing in a room with transparent glass showed their immaturity and in other people's POV, they see that Logan Roy was indeed a bad father because he has 3 children who know nothing about the company let alone being mature. And the fact Kendall has an audicity to go back to Board Meeting room and want to adjurn the meeting is totally show how childish he is. He's the oldest of them all but he is also the most childish of them all.
@lightschunk
@lightschunk 5 ай бұрын
I like how Logan won't make him CEO because he isn't a killer but Shiv doesn't vote for him to be CEO because he is a killer 😅🔫
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 4 ай бұрын
And ironically in every Season finale, Kendall always kills: Season One: Accidentally killing someone Season Two: Killing Logan's trust and reputation from cruise scandal Season Three: Killing his old persona from being a frat boy who liked to party and being a broken man only later got support from his siblings and they killed their chance to stop the Gojo Deal Season Four: Kendall and his siblings killing their own reputations on this board meeting after learning all of them are not exactly being trusted.
@amipadme3985
@amipadme3985 2 ай бұрын
In a way, had Kendall not desperately denied he was a killer, he might have pulled it off? Lying to deny it was the final straw (especially for Roman)…it actually reinforces what Logan said? Kendall isn’t a killer, and it’s what finally, ultimately lost it for him.
@BIGBIB222
@BIGBIB222 11 ай бұрын
The real devastation in this scene is the fact that Shiv and Roman are so spiteful that they would lose the entire company their dad built just so their brother couldn’t have it. Shiv has seen how Mattson operates and she knows he’s just as much of an arrogant idiot as Ken but she just hates the fact that it’s her POS older brother who always leaves her out, just like her father did. I really don’t think Ken killing someone ever really mattered, I mean who knows what secrets Logan had. She’s just trying to justify the fact that she really just despises Ken, which all hurts even more bc we just saw them have such an amazing moment of authentic bonding the night before. The genius of this ending is that you finally realize that the show wasn’t about which kid is gonna get the company but really about how abuse and trauma can be cyclical and incredibly damaging throughout every family, even among the most wealthy.
@OliviaDunham-jg1yr
@OliviaDunham-jg1yr 11 ай бұрын
Incredibly well put
@Mopark25
@Mopark25 11 ай бұрын
For years I always wondered how this show would end, what the last scene would be. I always pictured something grand and poetic, like Kendall standing by Logan's deathbed or something equally predictable. Instead the show ends exactly how it should have: a playground fight between children. I'm astonished at how fitting and perfect it is, how it elucidates that this is what the show has always been building up to. They're just scared, stunted little children who have never had the opportunity to truly grow up. Such a tragic story.
@freddiequinlan5952
@freddiequinlan5952 10 ай бұрын
Mattson generated an entire company that was so large it ended up buying the company that Logan built. Kendall achieved NOTHING on his own. His ideas are bullshit. He is bullshit and he's a barely functioning addict, a walking time bomb prone to periods of mania or depression that massively impact his personal life and the business. There is definitely an element of spite and jealousy from Shiv and Roman but the fact is Kendall is an enormous liability who cannot ever be allowed to lead the company
@sneedle252
@sneedle252 7 ай бұрын
The fact that it never supposedly bothered her up to that point shows that it never mattered. It was just her trying to put him in a position where he either loses it and she becomes a victim who can righteously stab him, or he tolerates it and he's a pushover unworthy of respect and she can also stab him. Ken could have summoned himself to create a third option, where he gives some impassioned speech about how he's going to make it right, but he always wanted the love and approval of the most Logan-like person in his family. First his father, then Shiv, and you can't test real approval/love unless you give someone the opportunity to shank you. It's just that Ken is surrounded by people who absolutely will shank him, so it doesn't work. The poor guy is pleading to his sister to not do that and she just jams the knife in then uses his rage as justification.
@Jeremy-wp4yh
@Jeremy-wp4yh 7 ай бұрын
Ken is an addict. He was not cut out for this role. And the response he gives shiv after she said he killed someone just confirmed it. The moment he lied out of desperation both roman and shiv knew he wasn't the right choice.
@lazaromurad322
@lazaromurad322 Жыл бұрын
this scene man!! I wish I could see the season finale again! I was feeling all sort of feelings in this scene chefs kiss
@OliviaDunham-jg1yr
@OliviaDunham-jg1yr 11 ай бұрын
This finale was devastating
@hristopopov7345
@hristopopov7345 11 ай бұрын
Obviously I think all three of them deserve Emmys , but if I have to pick one , hard as it is , for this season it's definitely Kieran
@jkta97
@jkta97 8 ай бұрын
Kieran, Sarah, Matthew, and J. Smith all deserve the acting wins this year.
@Saigeee333
@Saigeee333 5 ай бұрын
Kieran and Sarah both ended up winning Emmy’s this year, Jeremy won in 2020
@wilmergimenez
@wilmergimenez Жыл бұрын
What convinced Shiv that shouldn't have been Kendall is precisely this moment the moment of true when Kendall can lose all he begs like a child begging his parent for an expensive toy that is not a CEO who can lead a company, if Kendall would explain why Tom and Matsson were the worst option than him maybe Shiv have accepted him but at the moment he starts begging he just killed himself you can see in her eyes she is struggling at the beginning almost certain shouldn't be Kendall but still struggling at the moment he starts begging she is not struggling anymore
@EliTheGleason
@EliTheGleason Жыл бұрын
No I'm pretty sure it's just cuz they all hate and distrust each other. Business acumen was not leading these decisions, spite was.
@mylalicoco
@mylalicoco 4 ай бұрын
No Shiv is juts dumb lol
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 4 ай бұрын
Shiv is just petty as always. Whenever she doesn't like someone to be the leader, she's always gaslighting but she lost the arguments anyway. Like how she didn't agree to have Kendall as temporary CEO in Season One, Rhea being the next CEO candidate in Season Two, Mecken being the next president in Season Three, and finally Kendall again being the next CEO. She's always double cross her family by siding with someone else which is totally dumb. That's why Mattson decided to betray her after see how dumb she is and choose Tom as the CEO. Also, Shiv is pregnant and her mind is totally unstable due to pregnancy, so it just worse.
@mariakrauszowska3786
@mariakrauszowska3786 4 ай бұрын
Shiv has never made good decision in entire show and Roman was never strong enough to have clear opinion or take risk. If they would stick to the plan they would have it all.
@ty814
@ty814 2 ай бұрын
First she was betraying them way before with Mattson ,when he promised to make her CEO. She never sided with them it was a ruse.
@crimansizers5840
@crimansizers5840 Жыл бұрын
Sad part is Ken predict this in the prior episode when he was talking to Hugo but as soon as he gets close to victory he lets his guard down. He forgot how petty Shiv is and rather than covet Frank or another board member he is happy with the slim majority. Had he done so, he wouldn’t be in a position of extreme dependence we see him in with the sibs. he be the CEO and he would tell the others to F off.
@crabbieappleton
@crabbieappleton 11 ай бұрын
Ken's problem is that it's a tremendous deal for the shareholders. I'm still surprised Stewie stuck by Ken considering how much money he'd make if they sell.
@TheSuperNats
@TheSuperNats 11 ай бұрын
Kendall betrayed shiv first and then got consequences. He was never cut out for it. Too many people miss the point of this show. Kendall getting the job would’ve been a terrible move.
@crimansizers5840
@crimansizers5840 11 ай бұрын
@@TheSuperNats I don't think this is as simple as that. The sibs constantly betray each other, they are incapable of working together because that is how Logan raised them. Were they able to, the show would be over in S1. All 3 are pretty weak compared to Logan, but Ken would likley do the best among and with the right mentors (eg: Frank) he could be passable. Just look at the funeral speech: Ken >> Shiv >>>>>> Roman. Or even at the end of season 1 with the bear hug. Had Logan not pushed him back into drugs and his self-destructive behavior he couldd have very well won right there.
@crimansizers5840
@crimansizers5840 11 ай бұрын
@@crabbieappleton Well it be short-term profits vs long-term. Remember, Logan and Ken did not make the same deal. Logan's deal was better despite it being less money. Logan Kept ATN whereas Ken sold it all. The problem is that ATN is arguably the only valuable asset at Waystar. The rest was liabilities and items that can barely break even. Logan carved out the meat and gave the Sweed the bones and sinew for an outrageous price of 140B and the man was too busy sending frozen blood to people to see it!
@crabbieappleton
@crabbieappleton 11 ай бұрын
@@crimansizers5840 I think Mattson knew this. It's why he kept hesitating on the deal, hoping to prompt the Roys to sweeten it. And they did. And the theme of most of the show was that Waystar was a dinosaur, even ATN (which, like Fox News is mostly angry old white people). There's a strong possibility of NO long-term profits with an independent Waystar. Ultimately, the shareholders run the company.
@defragsbin
@defragsbin Жыл бұрын
1:55 Kendall losing it so much he's spitting mad
@Anna-vz5jl
@Anna-vz5jl 11 ай бұрын
Devastating scene . Brilliant brilliant show and acting 📺🎬
@ghostghost266
@ghostghost266 8 ай бұрын
Literally just binged the entire series and man oh man this was wild,I’m pretty sure they won’t even ever speak to one another or be at shivs baby shower or holiday get togethers.
@Jeremy-wp4yh
@Jeremy-wp4yh 7 ай бұрын
They will. Because money talks.
@bevercage6673
@bevercage6673 6 ай бұрын
​@@Jeremy-wp4yhall 3 of them are 5 billion dollars more richer. There is no more money they could offer each other to talk
@Jeremy-wp4yh
@Jeremy-wp4yh 6 ай бұрын
@@bevercage6673 and yet they still wanted that position. The point is no money is ever enough. And they all wanted that position of power. But hypothetically, I see shiv and Roman getting back together. Kendall might either go off the deep end or maybe he gets his silver lining by reuniting with his family.
@bevercage6673
@bevercage6673 6 ай бұрын
@@Jeremy-wp4yh roman and shiv getting together is very probable but i dont see kendall ever getting back. Kendall didnt really want money. He wanted power. His desire of power is higher than his desire for ANYTHING. While that is true to some extent for Shiv and roman. I think roman doesnt want that power all that much. He lost but lost satisfyingly. Shiv still retains a bit of power she longingly wants as she knew she would never be relevant to Kendal so she went with Tom. Kendal truly lost. Thats what i meant that no amount of money can talk infront of their lust for power.
@Jeremy-wp4yh
@Jeremy-wp4yh 6 ай бұрын
@@bevercage6673 I've noticed the comments were saying that Shiv was being spiteful or any other reason for her not choosing Kendall. But I disagree. You can clearly see the moment of realization when she confronts him about the murder and in his desperation he lied. Both shiv and Roman realized that he would never be a good CEO. the addictive personality and hunger for power made him desperate and irresponsible. The scene is very powerful. I also liked how Roman's first instinct is to protect shivs baby when Kendall attacks him
@shikharsrivastava3558
@shikharsrivastava3558 8 ай бұрын
Interestingly Shiv is the Indian God of destruction and change. Fits perfectly with the narrative
@dhirajbhat4021
@dhirajbhat4021 3 ай бұрын
Hey name is Siobhan
@tyroned114
@tyroned114 Жыл бұрын
Again, Shiv could have stopped their plans before getting to this point. But maybe Tom's honesty finally got to her, or this was revenge for Kendall playing Nirvana during her speech.
@Solaire_of_Astora13
@Solaire_of_Astora13 10 ай бұрын
It also mirrors Kendall ultimately siding with Mencken in earlier episodes. Though Kendall never said he was going to choose Mencken, so that's on Shiv.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 2 ай бұрын
Also, both of Roman and Kendall always leave Shiv behind as they always see as "annoying little girl". Even in opening scene since Season 2, when the Roy Kids have family photo, in one second, Shiv is left alone without her brothers. Shiv is always being outcast because she's the only girl on the family even worst, her parents neglect her. A workaholic father and a mother who doesn't even know how to be a mother. You can see that Caroline must hate Shiv the most throughout the shows even suggested Shiv to not have kids. What kind of mother asking everyone if her daughter's marriage work it on the day before her wedding? If she cares to Shiv, she wouldn't do that.
@DrakeBrunette
@DrakeBrunette 4 ай бұрын
Ken was a character that I was strangely pulling for and I hoped he could get it all together… I thought from the start of season 2 that he was going to emotionally mature. Slowly but surely. But nope! He always has to stumble at the finish line.
@rafa-oz2cc
@rafa-oz2cc 5 ай бұрын
honestly, this is the better ending, best case escenario if kendall was ceo, he would last a year at best.
@rafa-oz2cc
@rafa-oz2cc 5 ай бұрын
tom deserve this, at the very least, he is always working. he is the perfect guy for mattson, a working puppet
@TtotheCizzel
@TtotheCizzel 3 ай бұрын
Funny how roman makes no attempt to defend himself but grabs him when he goes for Shiv
@josephnissenson3252
@josephnissenson3252 2 ай бұрын
But when they start grappling shiv just leaves roman with Ken on top and doesn't even try to help him. I like how the between the lines stuff like that really gives us so much info about their dynamic
@dodger1214
@dodger1214 Жыл бұрын
I personally never thought it was going to be Kendall. Word was going to come out about what happened with the waiter at some point. Whether he killed him or not, he was going to have to resign once that did come out. It truly sucks what happened to Kendall as a character throughout the series. But once he drove that car into the water, under no circumstance did I think Kendall was ever going to come out on top.
@mariakrauszowska3786
@mariakrauszowska3786 4 ай бұрын
Kendall was not driving the car, waiter did.
@dodger1214
@dodger1214 4 ай бұрын
@@mariakrauszowska3786 Uh, Kendall was most certainly driving the car. Watch the scene again.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 24 күн бұрын
​@@mariakrauszowska3786Kendall was driving the car as the waiter was high on weed. But, Kendall, who hasn't drive for a long time and he mostly got carried by the driver is not very used to manual car as he mostly doing automatically. Roman also can drive actually as he's picking up Kendall who was high on Family Therapy episode as Kendall avoided the Family Therapy to Connor's Ranch.
@geeman.8081
@geeman.8081 Ай бұрын
Never seen a show where I loved, hated, and wanted all the main characters to die horribly.
@ajluvzlondon4214
@ajluvzlondon4214 6 ай бұрын
acting masterclass by Jeremy Strong from 0:40 until 2:30
@virgonero2060
@virgonero2060 2 ай бұрын
"We're nothing, I'm tellig you because I know this"
@Bragglord
@Bragglord 9 ай бұрын
Anyone who thinks Shiv was trying to 'save' Kendall in any way, or was doing it purely for her own gain: You have missed the point. Her "hehehe you don't get to be CEO" expression at 0:03? The fact that she flounders with the waiter's death (which she clearly cares nothing for) which has nothing to do with how Ken would be as a CEO? Please, come on. Ken shot himself in the foot right at the finish line, putting his feet on the desk and acting so smug in the board meeting. It was that bit too much for her jealousy and resentment.
@hughglass3692
@hughglass3692 3 ай бұрын
1:46 god this line is so good.
@mprkg
@mprkg 4 ай бұрын
One is a buy in, the other is half Rava, half file cabinet guy!!
@licmir3663
@licmir3663 9 ай бұрын
At no point Kendall argued that he has experience on working for the company for many years. “I’m the oldest boy” was his best argument. I knew he wasn’t fit for the job during the last episode of the first season, in which instead of focusing on the company’s buyout, he was desperately looking for cocaine. I thought: “There’s no way this insecure, weak junk can be the CEO of a major company like that.”
@josefk7437
@josefk7437 5 ай бұрын
Everyone else was just as unfit for the job as Kendall.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 3 ай бұрын
Even worse, he yells at his siblings on the office full of glass and also in other people's POV, they see Kendall is yelling like a child for no reason to his younger siblings while Shiv and Roman are terrified. And then, Kendall attacks Roman and try to attack Shiv and the people realizes that Kendall is unhinged and unstable and there's no way he can be the CEO.
@henrymark2288
@henrymark2288 Жыл бұрын
Shiv argues that Kendall can’t be CEO because he killed someone. What did Kendall mean when he asked her “which”? I thought he only killed one person.
@JohnGarcia-qy5xo
@JohnGarcia-qy5xo Жыл бұрын
Throughout the show they use the term “kill” to fire or cut terms with financially/business wise.
@Pitchman14
@Pitchman14 11 ай бұрын
I think he was just panicking when he heard that. He said “which” as an instinct as if to say “uhh uhh which person did I kill? I didn’t kill anyone”
@josephnissenson3252
@josephnissenson3252 2 ай бұрын
He was just mumbling thinking of something to say because of the shock of Shiv bringing it up
@isthatyoursomnomnom
@isthatyoursomnomnom 3 ай бұрын
That feeling watching this the first time.. **shudder**
@LegalVampire
@LegalVampire 5 ай бұрын
IT'S SHAKESPEARE BABY
@MrLostMinecraftian
@MrLostMinecraftian Жыл бұрын
The way Kendall squeezes romes head kills me every time 😂
@bluepandasquad
@bluepandasquad 11 ай бұрын
The way roman says “what the fuuck” 😂😂
@johndood29
@johndood29 11 ай бұрын
@@bluepandasquadfr lol it cracked me up.
@augustusgrt9655
@augustusgrt9655 7 ай бұрын
​​@@bluepandasquadthe "wtf?" delivery is pure comedy. I just noticed it was Shiv who said that but still hilarious af.
@trevorsparks2636
@trevorsparks2636 5 ай бұрын
This was the best thing for Kendall
@Anna-vz5jl
@Anna-vz5jl 11 ай бұрын
I miss this show already Kendall was so lost so damaged
@emperortimeo6467
@emperortimeo6467 3 ай бұрын
What makes me hate Shiv more is that she really doesn’t do anything to stop Kendall from hurting Roman, and just decides to walk away. Just another indication of how their childhoods played out with Roman taking most of the physical abuse from Logan while Shiv never had to deal with it and looked out for herself
@annkey4091
@annkey4091 Ай бұрын
What is a pregnant woman to do in physical altercation between two men???
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 25 күн бұрын
If you look closely, as soon as Kendall attacking Roman, she tried to stop him by constantly poking him and said; "STOP! STOP!" But since Kendall is getting unhinged, she tried to escape as it will be risky for her while pregnant to fight him back until Kendall tried to grab her and Roman protects her by grabbing Kendall.
@ericaguirre7697
@ericaguirre7697 Жыл бұрын
It's funny that both Roman and Shiv felt betrayed and angry at Kendall because he lied to them about killing the waiter. You could think that maybe they would feel relieved that their brother didn't kill someone, but no their ego is way more important than him not committing a crime.
@dimitriemirea6084
@dimitriemirea6084 Жыл бұрын
One could only feel relieved Kendall didn't kill anyone if he denied some crazy rumor that some random guy started just to destroy Kendall's image. Instead, he denies the rumor (he "started" after having a mental breakdown and trying to kill himself) in a moment of pure desperation to get Shiv to vote for him. If anything, this moment only displayes weakness on his part
@ericaguirre7697
@ericaguirre7697 Жыл бұрын
@@dimitriemirea6084 Oh, I agree Ken's move is pure weakness, and makes him a more piece of shit for not only killing (indirectly) the waiter but denying it to convince her sister to vote for him. But still, as a brother i would feel relieved if my brother said to me that he didn't kill someone. Then I would be upset for him lying to me but only after not before.
@peterumathum4903
@peterumathum4903 11 ай бұрын
Tbf i'm not sure if they were pissed bc they believed that he lied the first time, or bc they realise THIS is the obvious pathetic lie and they're pissed he even tried it
@ericaguirre7697
@ericaguirre7697 11 ай бұрын
@@peterumathum4903 That's a good point. And I could see why they would be pissed at him. It would just go to show that Ken had already lost any type of decency by killing the waiter and then lying about it to get himself in power. Total dipshit.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 Ай бұрын
Also, remember, that Roman and Shiv are not fully supporting Kendall 100% to be the next CEO, they were just like, "Uh, fuck it. Let's make him the CEO because he wants it so bad since he was 7." Just like how Willa said "Fuck It." To marry Connor in Season 3. And then, they've changed their minds as soon as Kendall sitting on Logan's chair and rethinking their decision. Shiv changed her mind when Kendall put his foot on the desk while Roman changed his mind after Kendall pushed his stich wound to bleed. Also, Shiv is on dilemma either she wants Tom, her husband whom she hates the most becomes the CEO or her arrogant idiot older brother to be the CEO. Kendall is also trusting them too much and he's always forgetting his sibling's attitude who will fight back and be petty.
@micow9951
@micow9951 11 ай бұрын
At first I was like shiv why ? But seeing his reaction I was like shiv YESSS I remembered that he is my least favorite sibling they're all assholes but there's something fundamental I don't like about Kendal that "meal fit for a king " scene almost made me forget that I really don't want him to win although I wouldn't really call becoming CEO a win who'd want that much stress and toxicity when you can just have money and retirement
@iloveamerica007
@iloveamerica007 6 ай бұрын
Kendall needs to grow the hell up
@KatiesArabVision
@KatiesArabVision 10 ай бұрын
Kendall would make a terrible CEO lmao
@josefk7437
@josefk7437 5 ай бұрын
He would be just like his father that way.
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 Ай бұрын
Also, he mostly can't take criticism and will lash out like a child. He also can be sexist in some cases like how he's always leaving Shiv alone, abandoning Rava, kicking out Karolina from the car, yelling at the female lawyer on Season 3, tresting Jess like his servant most of the time and etc. Also, he's a drug addict and worst case scenario, he might die by overdosed soon while being in CEO.
@jimcameron9848
@jimcameron9848 11 ай бұрын
This scene is a higher resolution of their feedback loop for destruction. Aka Kendall v 2.0
@tuckosi
@tuckosi 3 ай бұрын
In a way this was a good ending for Kendall because this is his ultimate rock bottom. Estranged from his whole family, the family he created but then lost, and the family he was born into. No job. However he’s still a billionaire several times over. Him taking over would never have made him look at reality and who he has become. With the burden and anxiety of taking over the company behind him, he can start to try and heal if he’s truly willing to take an unflinching look at himself.
@keithpatrick156
@keithpatrick156 4 ай бұрын
No wonder Logan couldn't settle on one of these to succeed him.
@niraxlevi9930
@niraxlevi9930 3 ай бұрын
I mean shiv was fine tbh
@manal-op6ic
@manal-op6ic 2 ай бұрын
@@niraxlevi9930 No she wasn't. She was a lot dumber than she thought and acted on an impulse. I mean you would think she would've had it in season 2 when Logan offered it to her but she ruined it all just because Logan didn't wanna tell the Pierce family that she was gonna be CEO when it was her who wanted to keep it on the low in the first place. She acted out saying "for f*** sake, dad, just tell them it's gonna be me." Like that was the most important thing at the moment, not landing the Pierce deal or probably not breaking it to the entire family at the dinner with the Pierces. And the letter that she wrote about Kendall in S3 was pure rage. She was emotional and did not have control. She also had no experience whatsoever, and you would think she would be fit with a bit of training but she also thought "a 3 year timeline" was too long of training when she never even worked at the company. So yeah I've never seen a person who thinks they're smarter than they really are like Shiv.
@josephnissenson3252
@josephnissenson3252 2 ай бұрын
​@@niraxlevi9930shiv was inexperienced and would really overstep, thinking she was smarter than she was. None of them were fine and that's the ultimate point
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 Ай бұрын
In the end of the day, Shiv is mostly being used by the men around her: -Logan used her to make sure that she won't going anywhere around him as she's his only daughter and one of his successors but she's always talk back to him -Gil used her to destroy Logan and ATN's reputation but she quits -Tom used her to increase his status and even he admitted to Greg that he was interested on her purse instead of her at first but she's always treating him like a lapdog -Mattson used her to tear her brothers apart after their interractions on Norway only to realize how dumb she is as she begged like a child to make her CEO and then he dumped her. So, long story short, Shiv is a clueless spoiled rich girl who is being used by everyone just because she's the CEO's daughter. But then after her father died, she becomes nothing.
@pituparanoico
@pituparanoico 29 күн бұрын
Whats crazy about this whole feud, its that even if the company was sold away, they were getting billions, each one of them. Ken was a loser, he knew he could never create a company from scratch and make it successful. Thats why he needed that so badly, not to feel like a loser and to feel as he deserved it, the whole meritocracy stuff rich people loves to boast about.
@thehouse2015
@thehouse2015 Жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to see this go down at work. Sometimes you need a little Executive fighting to spice up the day 😂
@HouseofHugh
@HouseofHugh 4 ай бұрын
2:07 and it goes DOWN
@kai88things98
@kai88things98 4 ай бұрын
El padre hizo el trabajo perfecto con sus hijos jamas los hizo unidos y siempre los mantuvo en competencia por eso ni muerto Logan ellos pueden unirse y no son capaces de ceder el máximo puesto por el bien común, por un momento de sintió tan bien que Kendall casi lo logrará porque definitivamente para mi es el más competente siempre y cuando esté enfocado.
@HilltopperTA
@HilltopperTA 4 ай бұрын
Agreed! Logan caused this by the way he raised them to always compete!
@BatmanHQYT
@BatmanHQYT 3 ай бұрын
Insane secondhand embarrassment knowing the whole board could hear him
@Anna-vz5jl
@Anna-vz5jl 10 ай бұрын
I want Kendall to be ok I wonder what he would end up doing after he left the company 🥺
@josephnissenson3252
@josephnissenson3252 2 ай бұрын
Maybe he'll actually see his kids 😂
@TheCountryMouse
@TheCountryMouse Жыл бұрын
I watch this scene over and over. Such a great finale. ❤ I was team Tom, so I got my wish😄
@cdrthire
@cdrthire 11 ай бұрын
Thinking that anyone "won" is missing the point entirely. Tom also loses in the end by becoming a puppet CEO, staying with a wife who doesn't love him and losing Greg to the soon to be implemented downsizing plan. All the main characters in this show live the tragic consequence of a life of worshiping optics, which is sadly to be continued forward through Siobhan's unwanted pregnancy. The sincere words spoken in this scene by Roman "We are bullshit" resemble those of his father in season 3 "You're not real people". The worship of optics leaves all the main characters, hollow. Approaching the ending of this show like the finale of Game of Thrones is truly mistaken beyond belief.
@balabanasireti
@balabanasireti 8 ай бұрын
Picking teams is cringe
@Gqrican94
@Gqrican94 8 ай бұрын
Tom is a pussy rat I hated him spineless yes man
@hdgswalker
@hdgswalker 8 ай бұрын
​@@cdrthirewell said
@jkta97
@jkta97 8 ай бұрын
The only person who truly wins in any sense is Roman. He gained the self-awareness that the other siblings lacked. By recognizing how BS everything was, he finally has a chance to let go and be a better person and live a good life. It’s a slim possibility, of course, but it now exists for him.
@williammccormick984
@williammccormick984 10 ай бұрын
Kendall turning into a begging, salivating child after watching him at his most private (hiding in server rooms and temper tantrums in bathrooms) broke me. Kendall's best case scenario was getting the job "that clearly kills you."
@spongebobsquarepants-ne6lc
@spongebobsquarepants-ne6lc 10 ай бұрын
People say shiv and roman are pure evil...and roman is many times really evil..but kendall .. when he doesn't get what he wants he can really kill even his siblings in reality..see how he's hurting roman he's pure killer a real killer and a child and unstable..he should've really gotten therapy before wanting to become the ceo
@TheGabrielberki
@TheGabrielberki Жыл бұрын
It did happen. Not. It did not.
@caballero19
@caballero19 3 ай бұрын
TE AMO KENNYYYY
@luiscarloscantele2051
@luiscarloscantele2051 4 ай бұрын
Logan was right. They are not seriuos people.
@anthonytinaj7131
@anthonytinaj7131 11 ай бұрын
And I thought Roman was a savage...
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 18 күн бұрын
Imagine watching a grown ass man yelling "I'M THE ELDEST BOY!" after he just previously making a pitch in a not-so-good pitch in a *serious* board meeting while having childish tantrums with his siblings in a room full of transparent glass, I'd probably just facepalming all the time. Stewie probably feeling embarrased to see his "Buddy" act like that and Ewan will shake his head to realize that none of his grand nephews and niece resemble his brother and he realize that his brother is indeed a terrible person with terrible parenting and he must proud that he raised his daughter (Greg's mom) right as she grew up independently without acting like a nepo baby and living out of spotlight like the other Roys and Greg is also learning from the bottom from refusing to work as a mascot in Brightstar with only having 20$ on his pocket to be the richest secretary with 200K/ month salary
@PrestigeLearning
@PrestigeLearning 2 ай бұрын
Was there ANY proper response to "you killed someone"? True, Kendall's response was the worst possible reaction, but I'm not sure anything would've changed Shiv's mind. The best move would've been to keep Shiv out of the loop until the last possible moment, THEN reveal Tom's the pick instead of her. Her vote needs to be a reaction, not a plan
@manal-op6ic
@manal-op6ic 2 ай бұрын
Damn, you would make a great CEO
@Williamsbsa
@Williamsbsa 3 ай бұрын
Shiv = judas
@timnesmith5055
@timnesmith5055 5 ай бұрын
They should do a movie that's set 5 years later with Kendall in Alpha Chad mode trying to take the company back
@jacksonmaloney8520
@jacksonmaloney8520 5 ай бұрын
I was desperate to see them function as happy siblings who genuinely love each other. Of course, at the beginning of the season, it seems that this is the case; they're turning a new page, but nope, there's simply no way that Shiv could be happy for someone else, even her own brother and her selfish desires superseded everything else.
@TylonMonger
@TylonMonger 11 ай бұрын
“This is so heartbreaking” he’s a billionaire
@sullivandmitry1416
@sullivandmitry1416 11 ай бұрын
Money doesn’t fix emotional trauma. His father gave him money from his business through shares but that doesn’t mean Ken isn’t broken or doesn’t have a lot of emotional trauma.
@TylonMonger
@TylonMonger 11 ай бұрын
@@sullivandmitry1416 so much money for therapy. Go finish that rehab he never got to do.
@sullivandmitry1416
@sullivandmitry1416 11 ай бұрын
@@TylonMonger you’re a fucking idiot. He’s a billionaire yes, but he also is divorced, has a strained relationship ship with his druggie girlfriend, barely has a relationship with his kids, and now has no relationship with his siblings. He has spent every ounce of his life trying to live up to an image placed in his head by his father when he was 7 years old and just a few days after his fathers funeral, he loses it all because his sister decides she’s not really on his side. His brother just called his kids not his and every other person in his life is either there because they want a piece of the empire or were close to his dad. His entire life has been dictated by his father, revolved around this business and his father, and he’s so trapped in the loop of his abused childhood and his lack of self worth that the only goal to obtain to be worthy of anything was ripped from him by his jealous and backstabbing sister. It’s heartbreaking because he only ever had one thing, and only ever wanted the love and respect of his father, and now he has neither and is alone. No amount of money or hollow therapy sessions is going to just “bam” fix that shit.
@Bragglord
@Bragglord 9 ай бұрын
Sure, but if you are raised as a billionaire your whole life, money feels almost meaningless. It was always the power for them.
@Saigeee333
@Saigeee333 5 ай бұрын
Woosh
@freddyrose7815
@freddyrose7815 4 ай бұрын
This was fucking unbearable. After all that.....Ken is a total screw up but he went through so much to get to that point, and I truly despise everything about Shiv. Let's be honest as well, Ken didn't kill a kid, the kid pushed that car off the road because he was so ketted up he went full r-tard. I hated Shiv so much I literally hate the actress that's how good she was in the role lmaoo 😂
@Gyuresssz
@Gyuresssz 6 ай бұрын
00:01 that smirk, envious little brat
@jemmyrtiu
@jemmyrtiu 5 ай бұрын
I don’t think Shiv was envious; she simply realised Kendall shouldn’t be CEO.
@chripianflopez
@chripianflopez 4 ай бұрын
Naaaah there's definitely something going on there. Something malevolent. People like to put blame on others for their decisions, but there are clear indicators that the reasons aren't entirely the ones stated.
@andraspalatinus145
@andraspalatinus145 4 ай бұрын
Yes, which later has been proven by her bringing up a family secret to win a business argument. That shows, she's just don't want to vote for him and she is not even sure why, but she had made up her mind.
@niraxlevi9930
@niraxlevi9930 3 ай бұрын
​@andraspalatinus145 nah she knows he's bad 👎
@RBGRBGRBGRBG
@RBGRBGRBGRBG Ай бұрын
@@niraxlevi9930nah she knows Tom will be eating out of her hand again inside a year and that if she votes her brothers out she’ll never have to deal with them again as she continues trying to ascend to her fathers position. She won, just not yet. She’s now the only one who will have a chance after this, of the three of them and she knows it.
@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga
@MichaelEmmanuelArriaga 3 ай бұрын
Seeing people defend Kendall after how he treated Roman and grabbing his pregnant sister like that is NUTS! IT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE!!! 😂😂
@amipadme3985
@amipadme3985 2 ай бұрын
Lol
@moonlightfitz
@moonlightfitz 10 ай бұрын
💀💀
@cele1015
@cele1015 5 ай бұрын
Pregunta: lo de Shiv fue una jugada maestra o una traicion?
@samanthacristinaburgosmera4160
@samanthacristinaburgosmera4160 5 ай бұрын
Me parece que más bien fue jugada maestra de por si se notaba que ya tenía sus dudas pero muchos lo verán como traición y sinceramente según mi opinión estoy de acuerdo que haya decidido eso
@Dere2727
@Dere2727 11 ай бұрын
Worst pitch ever
@aap2310
@aap2310 2 ай бұрын
Phoney news. He's right there.
@jodythomas4324
@jodythomas4324 Жыл бұрын
Loved the ending just didn’t care for how they got there, like oh Shiv fucks over Ken at the last second, what a shocker…
@Harry_S._Plinkett
@Harry_S._Plinkett Жыл бұрын
I mean, it was built up throughout the season. Wasn’t a last minute decision, the warning signs were there for awhile.
@annkey4091
@annkey4091 Жыл бұрын
@@Harry_S._Plinkett I agree. When Shiv first came into the office at Logan's invitation (Season 1), Kendall asked her why was she there. I thought that was strange question considering she was in her father's office.
@alexeiharp7676
@alexeiharp7676 4 ай бұрын
Roman saying we're bullshit is interesting, like he may be the only one out of three who knows it through the entire show. Therefore never really stepping into power since it wouldnt make enough sense.
@Guamparrapo83
@Guamparrapo83 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't make any sense that Shiv brought that in in that very moment. Why? Ken opening up about such a tragic situation was an act of bravery and connection with his siblings, and all of a sudden it meant he wasn't fit to rule Waystar? I'm not defending his lie in the end, because that obviously screwed it all up, but what Shiv did was so low and illogical, and they even made it out to look like that very situation was gonan make the difference in Shiv's vote, as the clearly showed during the fight. The finale was great, but that was forced, excuse me. So all that happened in mom's house was bullshit? Shiv was opportunistic and calculative, yes, but this was a new low even for her. Again, great finale, intense and dramatic, but that was so disappointing. I get the premise, they couldn't end up well, but how the did it, no, just no
@monkeywizard7919
@monkeywizard7919 Жыл бұрын
Really? I think the ending is brilliant. All of the siblings are way too ambitious to share everything equally. The reconciliation at their mom's house was one moment of clarity, but an impossible standard to uphold because Logan literally raised them to fight each other. Their entire family dynamic is deeply rooted in decades of emotional abuse that has fostered distrust within all of them. Shiv does one last power play because her relationship to Tom secures her a position at the top, and she knows that Kendall with his past of drug abuse could potentially run everything against the wall in the future. Roman isn't a better alternative either, because of his sexual harassment and willingness to deal with nazis. Shiv did the perfectly selfish decision while simultaneously saving the company, unfortunately at the cost of destroying her entire family. That makes Succession an excellently written tragedy.
@Guamparrapo83
@Guamparrapo83 Жыл бұрын
@@monkeywizard7919 Good analysis and the premise makes perfect sense, but the way towards it was deceitful, cheating, lame. There's no way three brothers who behaved to each other the way they did in their mom's house would then show that hate, violence and evilness. They basically did that along the show, during years. It's not that they hold that grudge to each other. They would let iit out every single chance they had during the episodes. That reconciliation was genuine, but they some how weren't genuine themselves? It doesn't fit. At least if it something significative had occured between the reconciliation and the ending, something not too notorious, but clear enough to make us understand that they couldn't end up well. But no, they did the same thing they did in GoT with Danaerys
@peterumathum4903
@peterumathum4903 11 ай бұрын
You're overthinking it. Shiv wanted to stop Ken no matter what so she brought up the first thing she could think of. Of course it helps that killing someone is not very cool, but she brought it up bc that's the first thing she thought of
@Guamparrapo83
@Guamparrapo83 11 ай бұрын
@@peterumathum4903 and that's exactly what I'm saying is forced and exaggerated just to get the dramatic result the show was looking for. If you separate the very ending from the rest of the whole show, and specifically every what happened previously in mom's house, it actually works. But the way they did it, it doesn't. I mean, it was dramatically powerful, really compelling, but senseless
@gabrielm185
@gabrielm185 11 ай бұрын
​@@Guamparrapo83come on, it works perfectly, it is absolutely on brand for the roys' whole story and we could all see it coming. Shiv was going to be the queen and had to resign herself to crown the conceated brother she always resented for being the presumed heir. It was clear she started regretting the arrangement the moment he put his feet on Logan's desk. When the time came for the actual vote, she ended up being the king maker, and realizing she had the power to do so made her reflect. Her opinion of him was clear from season one: unfit, no achievements to show, temperamental, addiction history, plus the "killing". She knew he was unfit, as were them all. Had she voted for him he would throw her and Roman to the side on the first opportunity, plus he would probably ruin the company and her net worth with it. He was already making impossible claims promising bullshit products on that presentation. By crowning Tom she gets her money, but loses the power they all wanted, including her. Sure, being married to the CEO is still a place on the table, but it is in submission to a man, a situation she always had to endure with her father and siblings and hated it. She might appear to have won, but it was a very pyrrhic victory. It was out of contempt, but also strategic and very comprehensible, considering her character and the whole series. Good stories don't have to have happy endings
@ChristopherDillman
@ChristopherDillman 3 ай бұрын
Getting not sick, but sea sick watching this. Can someone tell the cameraman in this series to stop drinking this coffee or taking adderall. BE STILL CAMERA GUY!
@handfullofsean
@handfullofsean Жыл бұрын
Boooo
@handfullofsean
@handfullofsean Жыл бұрын
Whites love this show
@Chyeahokay
@Chyeahokay Жыл бұрын
The only one of the three who had the ability at the end to be ceo was Roman.
@sickskaterkid01
@sickskaterkid01 Жыл бұрын
There is evidence throughout the show that clearly depicts Roman's incapability of being CEO.
@defragsbin
@defragsbin Жыл бұрын
They all had some ability and could've made a decent team if they could stop stabbing each other. None of them had the chops to be CEO, though.
@Richard68434
@Richard68434 Жыл бұрын
He certainly doesn’t have it. He’s too adhd and chaotic to be ceo. Maybe an assistance or COO but not main job itself.
@lukashood25
@lukashood25 Жыл бұрын
Roman is free from waystar Royco, he never and I mean never stood a chance in this world and he says it many times.
@loganemmert1392
@loganemmert1392 Жыл бұрын
I think he would have been the worst of the 3. He didn't even really want it.
@rudetc
@rudetc 3 ай бұрын
I really felt like this was a not great ending. It just built and built and built, gettting cleverer and more nuanced then suddenly they knocked all the characters down back to where they were at the beginning in one scene. It was a shame really, but I guess it was always going this way.
@Guamparrapo83
@Guamparrapo83 Жыл бұрын
So Roman's change and sort of redemption was also bullshit? And not only that, but what he said to Ken was a new low even for him. Not realistic, just cartoonish. They were supposed to make amends and be togheter as siblings at Caroline's house. So, that was a lie too? I can't beiieve it
@IwonaF333
@IwonaF333 6 ай бұрын
Well, everything about them was bullshit
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