Wow, i've never actually noticed that. Like, the animation in this game is fine as hell, but the fact that they went that extra mile is a whole new level

I now have the image of Rock chasing after his jacket after he realized he screwed up.

Jordan Smith Rock would be like “...Wait, OH SHIT-“

OHHHHHH ALL THESE YEARS AND I'VE NOTICED THAT

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And why shouldn't he care? The old Garou team were essentially canonized as saints at SNK for the amazing animation they were able to pull off on the outdated NeoGeo hardware after they were laid off during old SNK's bankruptcy and collapse. Even after SNK's reformation as SNK Playmore they mostly resisted using Rock again (Maximum Impact 2 notwithstanding,) despite him being a fan favorite character because SNK feared they couldn't do him justice without the Garou team's influence.

And KOF 15 rn is going in the right direction by improving a lot of what KOF 14 did

@@Anomaly188 Snk has been improving a lot since the rough start they had on KOF 14 and soo far KOF 15 is doing a good job of showing the improvements

suddenllybah Don’t discount yourself. If you made the correlation before I did, my friend that was a TERRY-bly good catch.

TheKnightguard1 but see, the names Geese and Rock, are both design choices. Geese's attacks are static and hard, Rock's are dynamic and whispy. Geese's pose is unflappable and unextraneous, but Rock is fluid and revealing. Just, yes, it's dumb wordplay, but the animators actually make it all cohesive.

Wow, damn. Never thought of that. Good catch.

And of course, if Geese had wings he's not have died when he falls off the building the third time

Also also, fits with contrasting his mother who was basically Geese's 'caged bird' who died imprisoned by her feelings for Geese while Rock tries to reject that and wants use his wings to fly free.

I still believe they'll reach that magic again.

Nope... SNK is dead

Not the new ones - the magic is with Arc now.

Yeah, the best fighting and action games overall. KOF series Sonic Wings/Aero Fighters series Metal Slug series Samurai Showdown, etc. Just amazing!

They didn't adapt with the times. They made a lot of their money from arcade titles but tried to adapt by going the 3D route without properly changing their business practices.

@Stanley Maximus This scam again? Why do these people keep posting this stupid comment everywhere? They've even been posting similar responses to their own comments.

@@YowLife just another wave of shitty bots, ignore them

BellowD Gaming that’s an amazing way to put it

Rock is pretty much Giorno Giovanna

@ that makes more sense, well said

Affan Sami unexpected giogio

i see it that way as well

Ash???

Ash Crimson.

Even though I don't like Ash as a character, I can't deny his animations are an absolute work of art. Everything flows perfectly. KoF XIII was a truly beautiful game. Too beautiful, actually, since it almost made the company go bankrupt. :P

@BEST DOG Yup. I only learned that a few weeks ago. It's a miracle KoF XIV and SamSho came out.

I said the same thing, I would throw terry in there also

I'm hoping Ed from SFV can turn into half of what Rock Howard was

Blackman Whitesuit Do you want to play some Mario? Because that sounds like a pipe dream XD

i actually hoped that ed would have like a geese howard type thing where the madder he gets the more bison comes out

Jonny Guinness That would be cool, its a shame Ed was so boring tho. He's not even a boring character or anything, he's just not explored at all and super under developped (could say that about a lot of the newcomers tho)

yeah but the bright side is that rock howard(favorite fighting game character) was done justice after all these years

GooeyHeat I hope so too, Andy needs it bad.

Thst would be SO great!!!

Pajamapants Jack I would make a joke about hentai, considering your profile picture. But you probably get a lot of hentai jokes.

Isn’t that Sydney from Payday? lol

Post your drawing He's my favorite !

Me too! It helped me fix certain character designs and draw better poses for my comics~

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I don't know... the Capfags would still continue stuck to the old games (as Capcom's inventment drive on FGs was already dropping in the late 90's) even if there was a good number of alternatives around.

Carlos Vásquez SNK said it all depends on KOF 14’s success

It's not viable to keep the FF franchise. Not when KOF as we know it was on the verge of death - and not "death" in the FGC's more or less histerical vocabulary, but real death. Secondly, the only issue with Garou is that it took steps backwards in terms of the typical SNK innovative gameplay direction (in comparison to the development on Capcom's side). Garou got rid of almost all achievements of the FF franchise from half a decade, and simplified the core system to play like a slightly refined SF. Nowadays reviving the series, at least with the Garou parameters, wouldn't be interesting; only if they went back to Real Bout and keep polishing that system - it could be with Garou characters, that doesn't matter. Because only that would be a real refreshing fg gameplay to put in the current market... not a game that's almost redundant to SF.

The problem is the idea of making Garou it's own thing separated from FF and thus - what many people defend - making a "Garou 2" or something like that. That wouldn't be worth the high investment - that they certainly have to put in order to make the very late sequel minimally acceptable. You how demanding and intransigent a group can be, according to the quality of their game (see "exclusive" fans of Smash Melee, Third Strike, even old KOFs, etc). Nowadays there are much delicate concerns, such as the responsibility of producing a new dream match title that manages to compare to KOF98 and 2002. Like it or not, it's only ideas of this level that could make SNK threaten the other FG giants, not "Garou 2"...

Mmmhm but I think in this case he just wonders why because it's not the same colour as terry's moves, in this case red-ish.

totally agreed, he looks so stylish

KARNOFFEL NO SHUNZEI WO!!!

Thanks, glad you liked it! Most of the sprites I use for reference in these videos come from Fighter's Gen, actually! Thanks for having the largest collection of fighting game resources for decades! -A.B.I.

Ohh awesomeness... it comes full circle! 😁 I just watched a few of your InjustAss 2 character-specific videos and continue to be blown away by your attention to detail. Great examples on how certain animation could've been fixed, too. Is it cool if link to a few of your videos on the website? Thanks man.

Go right ahead!

Sitting back watching this conversation between two of my favorites!

AOF3 great animations boring designs!

Maybe because the game itself wasn't that interesting But indeed it was the first game with fluid animations

Personally I like Yamazaki over Rock, but he's up there

Sean Watson honestly my favorite is a 6 way tie: Rock, Tizoc/KoD, King (Tekken), Alex, Johnny Cage and Sagat

I mean, he's not wrong.

also, "Arcs Systems Works?" People get confused enough with Aksys games being a publisher of a lot of their games

Devin Friday Agree. One of my favorite FG character design quirks is how if you don't move K' in KOF '99 (not sure the later ones), he drops his hands and then his blinks become slower until eventually he closes his eyes completely until you move him again.

Dragon Ball FighterZ is the same?

@@voutespancar It was made by the same people

Still, accent core looks much better (excepting resolution) than the newer games.

It does use some phisycs such as in answer's scarf

also they chose not to go with the accursed pretzel motion for the input, which is also fitting for Rock's character.

@@BronzeAgePepper Agreed. It shows that Rock hasn’t truly mastered the power he inherited from Geese

Mega Mix Jam it’s kinder hard since the game is more then 80% censor bar

Kenpai I was talking about the game itself

Ohhhhhh...... I'm sure they could say a few things haha

Kenpai I think he is reffering to the video getting flagged because of using Skullgirls footage due to licensing.

Yes PLEASE!!!

I agree, but there's a pretty visibly clear difference in graphics budgets between those games though, most of MK/Injustice's just went towards stuff like the fight intros and crazy cinematic supers - not to mention the massive story mode cutscenes. Plus they don't even try to animate any cool and interesting moves because it's all superhero shit and there probably isn't anybody at NRS who knows a damn thing about martial arts

Str0nk_Sad Carlos Pesina is their main motion capture actor and has multiple Black Belts. You should ask him why the games have bad animation.

When Mortal Kombat 9 hit, that put NRS in a very quality bracket.

John McHenry honestly I’m surprised he’s a black belt when he can’t throw a convincing punch, I want to be lenient but.....really!?

But NRS have games with good graphics. It's the animation that is always shit, only animation.

That is why I still prefer sprite based animation unless its something by Arc Systems Works, cuz they just look... right. Even for newer titles. KOFXIII's sprites were so beautifully maded that when XIV came out I can't help but feel like it was a downgrade even if I knew it was done for budget reasons.

Joe Qiao I mean, it was a downgrade. I'd imagine SNK themselves know that all too well.

SNK did know but this is a company that has died 2 times, First time because of a failed attempt at a snk theme park, and the second was because of XIII. XIII may have been one of the most beautiful fighting games released but it was so difficult and expensive and it didn't make the return they wanted. Unfortunately, they have no choice but to go the 3d route, and as their first try in real 3d(Maximum Impact being ignore) it does a great job and that's with 8 people working on it, they can really go nowhere but up and their next game SNK Heroines actually has good animation if you saw SHermie's reveal trailer. SNK still has it, it's just going to take time.

I LOVE his animations. He was easily my favorite new character in UMVC3.

AoF 3 is soooooo underrated!

I think Jin’s is Closer in terms of animation and the emphasis of the wing flow.

Nero eventually gets the wings

CvS2 and Last Blade 2 are also masterclass in animation I would say. These too pls..

@hemuhemu69 The problem with CVS2 were the sprite inconsistencies. Certain characters, especially those redrawn specifically for the game looked great, like Ryu and Ken. In terms of sprite art from the Capcom side, I'd say the Marvel series and SF3 did it best. Gosh, X-Men: Children of The Atom and Marvel Super Heroes were absolutely gorgeous then, and they still look fantastic today. But imported Capcom characters from Alpha looked like a huge pixellated mess. Morrigan was especially terrible. SVC Chaos was only so-so as a game, but SNK did a great job in making the Capcom characters fit the overall art direction of the game. And Match of the Millennium was pretty fantastic art direction considering it's a Neo Geo Pocket Color game.

Last blade 2 was gorgeous

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