Rick’s microphone looks like he swiped it from a 70’s game show.

I see Rick Shields and another shorter Rick Shields

Both 7 irons, but different lofts. Should have given him the most comparable lofted clubs regardless of the number on the club. That way you can actually compare if they're really any difference in performance, and forgiveness type stuff.

Definitely would have been better if you just put a green out there at say 150yrds and hit whatever club you would hit into that green from each set and compare

Feel and comfort are all that matters for me. Confidence at address changes everything no matter the club or the brand. Great Feedback Rob!

Very interesting video, as always. However, you would hit one less club with the forgiving set, so it would be interesting to the the 8 iron from that set compared with the 7 iron from the blade set. That comparison would be more meaningful.

Please do a blade vs. a asteroid on a stick but hit the same lofted club or as close as possible so we can see how little the tech does and how much it is just the loft.

Yes please do the test again with similar lofted clubs.

I think the correct test would be to choose a set distance, say par 3 hole at 150 yards. Then you choose a blade and a forgiven iron and your goal is to stop on the green. Which one has easier time to achieve this? Can you find a forgiven iron that has the same stopping power for this distance, yet at the same time has more consistency achieving the goal?

Not sure if anyone on the comment thread mentioned loft so....loft Loft L0ft LoF7 .............loft The difference is loft Pizza. Great test nevertheless! Also, Rob I’m so happy you’re back, please test the Mizuno ST180 driver. Please, I just switched my epic out for it, it’s outstanding.

Rick, I’ve been watching and learning from you for over a year and you continue to inspire me to improve. I regularly lose to golfers who beat me by 2-3 strokes knowing they didn’t count several mis-hits, and count putts that miss by a couple of inches. It’s refreshing to see a teaching pro have a day like the rest of us and use it as an opportunity to encourage us and to put the GAME in proper perspective. Thanks!!

Ping 400 is such a great feel and sound, can really recommend them, it's a wonder iron for me. and the 3 wood and driver are down right fantastic.

Is that a microphone from a 70's game show?

I feel so good about myself after watching rob hit those blades

Golf is always about sacrifice and trade offs and for most golfers it's an ever evolving journey. A great test would be for a high handicapper to hit the blade, and a player to hit the SGI. I've never hit a players club and I've always been intrigued as to if I'd even be able to make contact with the ball! Great video as ever Rick.

Great to see Rob back in the studio; love his brand of commentary and description. For me that M-CGB would be straight in the bag; I could never play the P730 with my swing. Cheers guys!

Excellent video. Very interesting too. Personally i want height and spin from my irons but I'm not a good enough ballstriker for blades. So something a little forgiving but stops fairly quickly for me. I certainly don't choose a new mid-iron by the fact it goes further than my current mid-iron, especially as you've just shown when it's down to much stronger loft

Lots of guys saying should have used similar lofts as opposed to using 2 7irons but then shaft length would come into play but I think Rob is alot more confident with the game improvement club hence higher club head speed. This is why the P770 / Ap2 size irons are the most popular irons with amatures traditional lofts compact behind the ball but still a bit of meat without looking like a shovel. Just my opinion

Rick & Rob, don’t listen to all the haters talking about loft, obviously there is a difference in loft that creates a difference in distance. I actually really liked this video, my take away from it was one of where people are, will dictate different things, Rob being a mid handicapper like myself I think is in a position where he likes the feel of a blade / forged club, but maybe needs a little help on the distance. The truth is that most of us don’t hit the ball that far, I currently hit the Callaway Apex CF16 and hit my 7 iron about 160 carry, if I went to a higher lofted 7 iron and maybe went to 140 it also means that I wouldn’t hit my 5 iron 180, which means that 180 yd par 3 is hitting a 3 iron possibly.... personally I would would rather hit my 5. I think at the end of your video you brought up a good point about balance, personally I think a 7 iron comfortable distance is between 150 and 180 (carry) it makes playing enjoyable, it means a par 4 can actually be attacked in 2, if I were only hitting my 7 135 as it was in the video, it means that a 200 yd approach may be out of reach. Or if it is my gaping may be off if (7 = 135, 6=145, 5 = 155, 4=165, 3 = 175) it would make for a defeating day in golf On even a 400 yd par 4, let alone 450 etc. On a side note, good for you rob, you must have a significantly better short game than me :)

For me it used to be heavily weighted toward distance... Now it's mostly about feel, forgiveness and spin. Being able to trust my club and know that it'll stop quickly is more important than how far I can hit a 7 iron. I'll never forget the first time I spun a wedge 20 feet back off the front of the green... Far more rewarding than the first time I hit a 9 iron 130 yards!

I'd like to see the difference between the 29.5* MCGB 7 iron and a comparable lofted P730 (perhaps a 5 or 6 iron) and see what the differences were like.

Smashing video I must say. Very insightful. After working all day every day with the latest clubs, I have to say this- Why use blades in competition. Here’s what I do. I practice with my blades and use my trusty cavity backs in tournament play. Also a combo of blades and cavity back is a good option as well.

Get irons with the same loft, so its a fair head to head... :(

Rather control than distance. I bought the P7MC and it took a couple of rounds to get used to it. Much weaker lofted than my old ones, but now I am almost hitting them the same distance. Better feel and of course a bit more punished when not hitting so well, but you also force yourself to hit better.

I started with Mizuno mp-25 Irons "semi blade" and have learned with them and out preform alot of people. Honestly you can learn with anything. Sure starting with a more forgiving club will help, however it's all about how much work you want to put in. I got a good deal on these so I was determined to put in the work and its paying off :) .

wouldn't it be more interesting comparing 6blade against 7 chunky...

Such a fun video, thanks Rob and Rick!!!

The sound off the m-cgb is beautiful

Rob - its like an asteroid at the end of a stick! Mike myers - *Scottish accent* ITs LIKE AN ORANGE ON A TOOTHPICK!

Distance is important but hitting the consistence distance is the most important. I currently play forged blades and I like the fact that my 7 iron, which is 35 degrees, travels 155 to 159 yards every time it is struck correctly. So I guess consistency is more important than distance in my opinion.

Great test. Always wondered how big a difference that would be.

Breathtaking, I shall call him.....mini me

Rick, it looks like the comparison was between a 7 iron and a 6 iron ( looking at loft only). Rob did a great job, he’s a great ball striker and a real asset. For me the forgiving club would be my choice, for sure. The club head designations wouldn’t mean much to me it’s all about the loft, my 6 iron has 30 degrees, it doesn’t really matter what it’s called 30 degrees is 30 degrees. Great test.

Enjoyable and interesting . . . it is good as a high handicapper to see all these comparisons. Some comments below have to realise it is not all for them and we lesser mortals enjoy looking at differences . .. a learning process. I do realise that better or more picky golfers may not like such comparisons. What's Rob's handicap now ? We should run a book on how low he will get this summer ! !

As always, great video to the both of you. I do have one suggestion for the future. By using 2 clubs with the same loft, i.e. P730 6 iron MGCB 8 iron, it would be a truer test of blade vs forgiving club.

I am interested in his diffence between the new m5 and m6

Great comparison. Would be keen to do this myself to see how I go with similar clubs. Cheers Rick

One thing that wasn’t mentioned was the difference in the overall lengths of the clubs. I believe the MCGB is about an inch longer than the 730. That too will make a difference in the distances achieved with each clubs. Longer lengths translate to higher club head speed which translates to more distance. It would also be interesting to know the flex points of the different shafts. The flex point also has an affect on the launch angle, i.e. lower kick point = higher launch angle, etc. I wonder if TM compensated for all the weight in the head of the MCGB, which is designed to create lots of loft, by using a shaft with a higher kick point.

An interesting test. To answer your question at the end. I’m about a 16 handicap. I couldn’t care less whether I’ve got to take a 7 iron or a 6 iron for a 150yd shot. Depending on wind conditions, uphill/downhill, you might go up or down a club anyway, so why should it matter. For me the most important factor would be consistency and least variation of outcome. That I’m going to connect cleanly; that the direction is going to be where I want it; that I can be confident in the approach shots and control the landing.

The 5° loft gap makes this pointless.

Is it just me or does it look like the clubs are performing exactly the same loft for loft? The 7i CB in this test has less loft than my 6i blade!

Uh Rick. So glad to see how much your videos developed. Quite some transformation. Congrats on your success. Well deserved (considering the newer vids. Regards from Germany...

Loved the comparison. As a senior golfer I need distance and this works. You adjust your targets

Proper fitting Rob could play the blades. Maybe a light shaft or such. Seems to fit perfectly around a p770 to p790 set. Great video, keep up the solid work.

What an excellent comparison. Rob is great for your channel when it comes to average players. Thanks Rick!

This explains why my 3 & 4 cavity back irons are interchangeable with my 1 & 2 blade irons distance wise...

Hi Rick, when will you produce more 'mid handicap test' with Rob or others? I have for long time envisioned that someone can make series of 'mid handicapper tests' like below: - An average mid handicapper (15-18?) with more or less balanced skill set, e.g. 7-iron speed

Wow - what a great test. What would also be awesome would be if they could hit the clubs from those sets that are closer in loft side by side. So for instance - which blade iron has the same loft as the mega-cavity 7? I tend to not like the idea of advertising distance on clubs when all they've done is strengthen the loft - it just seems off some how

I learned how to golf with Ben Hogan Blades and boy they were frustrating, but, I will never forget the feel of crushing the 5 iron.

Great comparison and a testament to tech

Always good fun with you and Rob. As you said these clubs are at the extreme opposites of the spectrum and there are offerings out there that that offer help to the mid handicappers without these extreme loft changes and low spinning comprises. Ping I 200's come to mind as does the TM 750's. Lots of others from Callaway and Titleist. I am a high single digit geezer golfer( 8 cap, 68 years) and I play Callaway Apex forged irons, nice feel, good distances, I wouldn't give these up more more spin and super soft feel, I don't hit blades consistently and don't hit them very straight. Doesn't bother me to not have the game for the shiny blades, they are pretty though.Cheers, have a great holiday season.

Really good tempo for a 13, great work

Even if the loft increase, the size of the head larger, we can imagine the mec il havier. Rob said he prefers the blade. Is the ignition harder, with stronger grip ? Is the tempo different? The sound confirms the contact? Finaly each club are for expérienced mid or low hcp? Smashing players?

I’m an average golfer and I just got the M6 irons set. And I love them

Older video at this point but would love to see a mid-handicapper play a whole round with two balls. One ball played with a set of blades with minimal game improvement technology, the other with irons with game improvement tech. See how much the game improvement actually improves the game!

Bob barker mic... classy lol

I wonder if the shafts were the same. In my experience stock shafts for blades are usually much heavier.

I like watching rob hit clubs, it gives us mid handicappers a better idea of what the club can do 👍⛳️🤪

I am very interested in forgiving irons, can you do a test to determine which manufacturer produces the best product to suit this parameter, it would be very helpful. As you can imagine distance is not as important as accuracy to me. Keep up the great videos!

Mr. Shiels I have a suggestion. IMO a more apt comparison is to fix a distance instead of fixing a club and then use the clubs that'll get to that distance. In this case, for example, it might have been the P730 5 iron vs. the CGB 7 iron. The reason is obvious. At 155 yards that's the two clubs that Rob is going to use into the green so we need to compare spin rates, peak heights and angles of descent for those two clubs. Comparing both 7 irons is in effect comparing two different distance clubs which not only isn't a fair comparison it's also meaningless since you'd never use those two clubs for the same shot. Please consider this, especially in Rob's hands, for future reviews.

I agree with some of the comments about comparing clubs by loft, not number. Also the descent angle was skewed by two very high ones on the 730, otherwise they would have been identical.

Rick Sheilds Smash!! yall look like incredible hulks.

I need the most forgiving, I can drop a club length and roll to the pin

No point to this because of the difference in loft. Look at the dynamic lie on the p730 too! Massive toe down / high handle delivery.

I'm digging your videos. I'm shopping for a "new" used iron set for myself now. I would consider myself a mid-grade golfer, love the idea of a pure blade considering the control you gain but I don't think (I know) my skill isn't there. I don't like the idea of the ultimate forgiveness club. I don't think it would help me improve my game, rather I feel it would only allow me to play sloppier. Any tips on where to go from here would be much appreciated.

yeah my current forged BRidgestone DCP j40's don't give me much distance, but the shape is so nice. just gotta club up. i want some CB's tho. i hope i don't miss the spin the J40's give me on the 8-PW tho

It’s all about making higher handicap hitters think they can hit a club as far as a better player. This has been the most interesting club review / head to head I’ve seen on here. Great stuff. Shows that the game improvement club does what it’s meant to do.

Your mid handicapper is entertaining as hell

I bought the irons that I play not based on distance, which the fitter kept pushing me towards ones that went further, but on dispersion. No good if they hit the ball 30 yards further if it's 30 yards into the trees.

My worry with the strong lofts is the gaps it produces as I work my way down to the wedges

I've got the 730, Im really happy about it it makes me work on my attack angle and the strike on my club head... I hit my 7iron to 150m.

I would like to see his consistency between a 6 iron for the p730 vs the consistency for the 7 iron of the mcbg.

Thanks Rick & Rob, that`s a very interesting club comparison and thought provoking, though your comments regards "stopping power" isn't quite true. With the TM MCB hitting into a green out on the course you would be using say a 6 Iron instead of a 5 or 4 Iron so the relevant spin and stopping power would balance out. This is where on course testing would be useful to see how the clubs perform out on the Course. Take care both and have a "Banging Christmas"!

At 10 min in.....did something make you angry?.....cause.....we wouldn’t like you ....when you’re angry. Haha

I bought these m cgb irons based on your info. As a very high handicapper I love them.

What might be a better comparison here Rick is choosing 2 clubs that have a similar loft i.e. a 7 iron in the MCG and a 6 iron in the blade with a loft of around 35 degrees?

Rick. Can you do a comparison between a blade 7 and mcgb 8. Also- looking at the distribution (circles around the ball flight graphic) the mcgb looks bigger than the blade. Interesting video.

Good job Rob!

Would be nice if you have discussed forgiveness between the clubs more. I do not care to much about distance but for my uneven strike forgiveness is key.

Im a fairly high handicapper who’s been using an old set of Slazenger’s for the past 4-5 years. Yesterday I had a shot of a P730 7 iron and my world has turned upside down. It felt incredible, it went FURTHER than my current 7 and I couldn’t miss. The consistency and feel was night and day. Does this mean I need to get myself a set of these blades or am I jumping the gun?

How about 2 clubs with the same loft?

I'm a high handicapper so I'm suppose to be using very forgiving clubs. But as I was testing Titleist's AP1 as opposed to the AP2's (with the same shaft), I found the AP2's easier to hit. The data on the trackaman also shows the same carry distance for both. I found it weird until I realized that more forgiving clubs are heavier with its chunky size which makes the weight across the whole club biased to each end. The AP2's with its forged and smaller head makes it lighter hence giving the club a more balanced weight distribution that actually made it easy for me to swing. ☺

Awesome video! Would be nice to have had the P770 in there as well as the inbetween club. Make it happen Rick and Rob !

Be good to see you do that same test Rick

I started with a set of blades thirty years ago and loved them because of feel

Hi Rick, which clubs would you suggest that sit in between these two sets for the mid handicapper?

The only thing that matters for me is distance control. I want my 7 iron to go the same distance on my full swing. Now if I purchase a new set of irons I'm leaning more towards a forgiveness than a player's club/blade because miss hits with a forgiving iron set don't punish me. Good video Rick! My request or suggestion is, you hit both irons and compare the facts but in a way that compares not 7 iron to 7 iron but the club from each set that hits the same distance and compare the game improvement aspect to the player's aspect and see if game improvement design improves your game.

Hi Rick, love the club review videos! Keep up the good work! I was wondering if Rob could do testing with the Taylormade P790 iron, would love to see how a mid-handicapper would do with that club? Thanks!

@Rick Shiels Golf great video, but would be better to take loft out of the equation, and do the same test with 2 clubs that are the same loft regardless of number. It probably looks like it will be a 6 iron blade, vs the 7 iron cavity. What did surprise me was that with the cavity irons you got more height even though the loft was less.

Interesting! As a 74 year old senior golfer with a 12 handicap, I find exactly opposite results. I hit my forged irons further than game improvement irons as long as you compare clubs where the lofts are the same. And I hit the forged more consistently.

Curious to see if you compared loft for loft instead of the same club number....

Hey Rick great channel! Club number doesn't matter, loft and shaft length do. Perhaps match lofts without letting the tester know the club numbers.

Setting loft aside, I'll take the forgiveness over looks. I hover at about a 13/14 HC, with almost identical swing speed and ball speeds to Rob. I love watching videos with Rob because I can identify with his sentiments... Cheers!

Merry Christmas everyone in the comments

Brilliant video

What’s the loft on P730 6 iron? Compare That to mcbg 7 iron...

The first 5:30 seconds of this video should be shown to all high handicaps, BEFORE they buy a set! It’s the perfect display of why you should get fit, and play something that fits your game as well.

love the vid rick keep on doing what your doing keep up the good work u +peet finch = dream team

Were the shafts the same lengths on the 7's or have they delofted the club and also put a 6 iron length shaft in the Cavity 7? If the Cavity 7 is going the same height as the 7 blade would you then call the Cavity a true 7?

Rick, Any reasonably educated golfer knows that loft will always be the most significant factor in terms of distance. A slightly more educated golfer would then consider things like max height, decent angle, and spin rate to determine what he is giving up for those additional yards. What I would really like to see are two clubs, one blade and one exceptionally forgiving model, made by the same manufacturer with the same loft, lie, length, and shaft. If that test could then be performed by a scratch golfer (like you) and a relatively average golfer (like Rob) I think the results would then be considered much more meaningful.