only specific cherry picked CPUs as well

Hmm seems intel is actually starting to do this with their 28core xeon running 5ghz.

They kinda already do this. For the most part CPUs come from the same silicon and are binned using stress tests and altered to become there final CPU. Doing LN2 for all chips would take forever and cost a lot to show maybe +200 mHz on some chips.

don't bully me, but when I was in 5th grade, I tried that

@@mochageico at least you learned your lesson ;)

@@fryderyksadocha8044 at what speed will it run if i get it ? i see people say 2666 but id really like to get ram that can work at 2933 other option is Kingston HyperX 16GB Predator 3000MHz HX430C15PB3K2/16 but it costs twice as much , idk which one to get

at what speed will it run if i get it ? i see people say 2666 but id really like to get ram that can work at 2933 other option is Kingston HyperX 16GB Predator 3000MHz HX430C15PB3K2/16 but it costs twice as much , idk which one to get

4400 ram is superior in almost all tasks. Go look at some benchmarks, or dare me to post them right here so I can shit on you like I’ve shit on plenty of the people in these comments. You guys are ignorant and too lazy to do some research lol

@@BadMannerKorea Way late but here's a shot in the dark. I have a 4500 kit I'm using with my intel i5 10600k. Only the fancier Intel CPU models are supposed to support these higher speeds. I currently have mine dialed in at 4200 with safe voltages. Do you know if I'm putting my CPU at risk regardless? I'm assuming you are using Intel if you are buying a 4400 kit but I guess you could be rocking a Ryzen and dialing it in to IF with tight timings. Thanks!

can't tell if you're being serious or making a joke but RGB ram tends to have pcbs that is more optimised for high freq while sacrificing tight timings.

+Jacob Foster I should have made more typos I see.

it's more they crammed an RGB controller where mem traces should have been.

Just imagine how fast these RGB sticks can change their color. But only using some ASUS boards.

his video on ddr4 basic: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gcuPfcp9nc3co3U.html ryzen ram overclocking : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNWIlauDt53OaWw.html

@@FakhriAunurrahim Them not being on the list, just means they haven't been tested with the mobo. This could account for the issues. In this case, all you can do is test and see how you go. Beyond 2666 you really want to use only the 1.35v for further speeds. Try this: Rather than set timings manually, leave all on auto. Set the voltage to 1.35, and only change the speed of the DIMMS. see how far you get, but remember to run memtest to test each speed setting. The purpose of leaving the timings on auto, is to let the system decide them, and leave them pretty loose. This might let you get to 3000mhz. Then you can go backwards from there, and adjust timings (first noting the settings on auto - by looking at the spd tab in CPUz) and then manually setting those timings in the bios, by dropping back a level. So lets say your timings at auto, and with 1.35v is 17-19-19-35-65 or something and they function at the desired speed. Then change the timings to 16-18-28-34-65. This is time consuming, but by doing so, and getting close to rated timings you will increase the bandwidth of the DIMMS, and the cas latency which can give further improvements. I hope i've explained myself well. The overall point being, with those DIMMS, you're gonna have to tinker around with these settings to get best results. Just remember to test all the way so you know whatever setting you change works. And only change one setting at a time. If you have any questions, drop me a PM, and I can try illustrate it better.

@@FakhriAunurrahim I wish you could save comments

The few times I've played with the utilities for that they had a tendency to crash settings that would work from the BIOS.

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Extreme or just normal?

Normal for starters I guess xD

LEADER0FY0U I just want to know which subtimings matter the most and how to set them. So far I’ve only tweaked the 4 primary timings plus command rate, but I get the feeling it loosens a bunch of my other settings a lot.

uh nice i am also planning to overclock my ram, i found a bunch of guides : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j8uUYMRq29e4iZc.html this is the kit i got: www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/780697-Crucial-Ballistix-Elite-2x8GB-DDR4-3466-BLE2K8G4D34AEEAK let me know what you found.

I have seen people that have managed 4200 CL16 on their 4400 cl19 trident Z kits. obviously on the high end motherboards for 8700k or 9900k.

durr

Check out Mindblanktech, he put out a couple vids tuning up memory on ryzen and intel showing performance gains in a couple games

Mindblank Tech is the reason I can't consider Ryzen/Intel comparative benchmarks from other techtubers as 100% accurate.

bobsagget823 would also point out that most of the test didn't point out how much it still depends on your gpu to even make a difference. Anything below a 1070/Vega you won't notice the same boost that you do with them. So Jo they haven't done a diminishing returns test, because they're hitting the cap on the processor for memory not when diminishing returns starts to become a factor.

maybe as you are not getting multi channel, i have an old rig used for running SDR, its an Athlon 64 3000 with 2 gigs of dual channel ddr1(2x1gig), i have 4 sticks and wanted 4gb dual channel but the board in the machine ignores the 4th slot, it is seen in bios and win 7 64bit, but unused so you really only have 3gb single channel, now you would think 1 gb more would be better for the machine even single channel but i found 2gb running dual channel was a better setup than 3gb single. so in your case you might be better selling that 8gb stick and getting 2 4gb sticks so you get multi channel then just play around with memory settings till you find a setup that all sticks run at comfortably.

The latency rating is given in "clock cycles required to complete a given command", and the tighter the timings for a given frequency, the better performance of the chip. For instance, if a clock cycle takes 0.3125ns to complete (3200MHz) and the latency is 16 clock cycles (C16), that makes it a latency of 16*0.3125 = 5ns. If you get your RAM from that to say, 3200C14, you end up with 14*0.3125 = 4.375ns. That seems kind of underwhelming, but that's still a reduction of response time down 12.5% from the original timings. They are in ns (0.000000001s), and add up really fast when seconds are considered. Mindblank Tech got his 3600C16 kit to run at 3466C14 (as well as tweaking various other timings) on his Ryzen system and got a boost in performance compared to 3600C16. The 3600MHz frequency was basically useless since the workload wasn't requiring that much speed (bandwidth), making faster response time by way of tighter timings better suited.

And they used to sell only the crap stuff with very lose timings but the buyers like you and me have caught on.

Depends on what you will be doing. Gaming? At what resolution and with what GPU? 1080p with a good high end video card? Get the fastest RAM kit you can afford. 1440p and higher? Get anything 2400mhz or faster.

Thanks, ill check out thread and try to find reasonable kit with 3600CL

Yeah, gaming mainly, some multitasking, sometimes using PyCharm on my homestation. Ive got 1070 and two 1080 monitors, pretty basic.

Hynix is only really a disaster on Ryzen. On intel you can get some pretty decent OCs out of AFR kits.

if I mange to survive the exam session i will try to OC them, i have to learn about subtimigs and all of that tho because i never really got into memory overclocking.

it's similar though Intel is a lot more flexible and there's a lot more settings.

Cheater!

Eh if you constantly refreshed the AHOC video feed and had faster internet than me you could beat me on a lot of videos where I don't rush to post first or when I try to come up with something to say other than first.

cheat, but thank you for the video.

Hey you should watch the video before posting!!!

would it be better to downclock it to like 3600mhz but really low timings? is it even possible, i suck at memory clocking ahah

you dont