Thanks so much for that. Sadly some of the 3rd person shots were done by a professional with a huge flash camera. Gives me something to aim for. You should check out Bikelabs review of the same bike. They made their own video just using me. Looks way more professional.

@@bestdayevermtb2 mate, the bikelab’s video was great- you are rapidly becoming a star- all prop to ya matey.

Thanks very much. I wish I could ride bikes for a living but sadly not.

@@bestdayevermtb2 so I'm 80% keen to get a bike but what sort of maintenance do you need to do after a ride? or is it just a clean and plug the battery in? Cheers

@@Wafe_NZ In some ways yes. Saying that E bikes will cost money to maintain. They go through chains and cassettes faster. I clean and lube the chain after every ride. You will also need to service the suspension and seat post. That is true for ay mountain bike. It is not a cheap sport but still a lot cheaper than maintaining a motor cross bike or having a boat.

Always better to ask for forgiveness than permission.

@@bestdayevermtb2 umm that only works in a church setting, a frying pan to the head is un healthy

I have always been a bit different and many people think I have no taste. The great thing about being in my 50s is I no longer care.

My KTM is no fun to ride without motor either. The funny thing is although I say the orbea rides similar to a normal bike without the motor on it still sucks. After riding an e bike a steam bike feels terrible to me.

Or god forbid Apple, I love my Apple Watch for recording rides,sailing hiking on Strava and it takes calls,texts,apps

I am sure you will like it.

Thanks. Must admit some of the shots I did not film.

Glad you are enjoying the bike. Certainly dropping down the power increases the range hugely. I must admit most of my rides are under 30km. I talk about long rides but we talk too much to get very far.

Hi Finn. You make a lot of sense. I must admit I liked the bike but would prefer more suspension and like your idea. Of course the bike would get heavier especially if you put bigger tires on it. I think this bike will suit a lot of people. A friend of mine said this is how we should have made e bikes from the start. He of course wanted more travel as well. I think mountain bikes are all about compromise which is why we have XC and DH bikes. Everyone wants something different.

@@bestdayevermtb2 cheers for the reply mate👍 By the time I have put my goochy bits on the Rise it should be about 17.5kg. I would have liked the E-Rallon but that is not happening for a while yet according to Orbea. Anyway been a fan of your channel for a while now and it’s awesome to see yourself and Dad’s army evolve 👌Keep up the good work champ 👊

hi Finn the fork rake you put is what angle? and the ERA ext is that ebike version or the normal one thanks at forward.

@@bertfranqui7096 Hey Bert. So by putting a 160 travel Lyric on, i measured 64.8 head angle. I used a normal ext shock. I am now 3 rides in on my Rise and it has completely exceeded my expectations!

Thanks very much.

I absolutely loved it. The grip was good the tracks were fun and Josh was a great host. I am definitely coming back.

Yes the Rise would suit you well.

Same boat 10 month wait or two weeks with the Levo SL ......I now have a Levo SL in the shed

You were reviewing the 140/140 on the the Fox 34: but the next model up is the 140 / 150 with the fox 36 grip 2 even more capable turning into a very good all mountain " & from that model you can have a whole load of colours to choose on the " my custom " I took the 140/150 fox 36 grip 2:version out for Demo ; it's was magic ✨😎🌲🌲🚵🌲🌲🏞️👍👌

@@andrewgreenwood8727 I was told it was 140 150 but they could have been mistaken. I must admit I think I would prefer a set of 36s

@@craigpenglase5935 supply of bikes is a real issue. I would take what was available and start having fun.

I bet you can't wait. I must admit most of the displays are ugly and I like the minimal look. I am happy as long as I can tell how much battery I have and what setting I an in. Other data can be got off your phone. The Levo did this well.

@@bestdayevermtb2 thats true, i do think the levo/kenevo display on the latest models are much further ahead, but then i suppose theyre also a little more pricey now. thankfully i have Garmin watch anyway from year of riding my steam bke that is compatible so not much to worry about!

I was told it was 140 150 but this may have been a mistake. I knew you could get both options. Certainly a cool bike. It wouldn't be one of my videos if it didn't have a few mistakes.

@@bestdayevermtb2 When are you next in Taupo.. The crew down here are keen to show you around. NOT the C Line...🙃😉

@@claytonprice7833 Really not sure. Have actually been very busy with work lately so hardly been riding. Hopefully in the summer.

Yeah and it isn’t even CLOSE to 16.5 kilos !!!!! The m20 is over two,kilos heavier

@@pizzagorgonzola I must admit I was unable to weigh the bike. I was told that the bike had been weighed that morning and came in at 16.5 kg. I had checked on line and the top of the range is advertised at 16.5kg but no numbers for other models. Like wise I knew they came as 150 or 140 but didn't know for sure which one this was. I went with the information I was given. Saying that the bike did feel very light and I don't think I have made a video yet without some mistakes, so I hope everyone can take it for what it is. One grumpy old mans opinion on an E bike.😁😁😁

I have the skydio2.

That's the problem, Brose motors are unreliable. Wild FS with Bosch for me, not worried about a minor weight penalty

It is a fun bike to ride. You will enjoy it. Here is a link to the helmet. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b8mgZLSjrrXPp30.html

I am 176cm tall and rode a large. Felt very good. My inseam is 78cm although these days it is all about reach. I like a reach of 450 to 470 generally.

I may be able to review the kenevo sl soon. Excited about that one. Wasn't sure about the output of the motor. 35Nm is quite a bit less but I know many people find that OK.

@@bestdayevermtb2 I’m a follower and love your vids, as I’m a 50+ year old rider as well. cheers. There’s not that much difference I find between the SL and turbo if you are just having a few hours ride and my wife’s turbo only saves me 5 minutes to the top of the local trail. Peddle bike is 50min, SL is 20 min and Turbo Levo is 15 min, Keep up the great content mate.

@@apoffs thanks so much for the support. We all love our e bikes and that is what it is all about.

@MrRadar45 I think a big factor in what e bike to choose is what can you actually get you hands on. They are all great fun.

Must admit some of the 3rd person shots were taken by Bike lab with a flash as camera.

@@bestdayevermtb2 they looked great

It wouldn't be a deal breaker for me but would look at a garmin watch rather than the shimano display.

@@bestdayevermtb2 not a deal breaker for me as well. If no other ebike company comes with a «better» option than Rise, for the next 6-12 month, Rise will be my next ebike. This bike covers the most type of riding alternatives. Keep up the good work 👍🚴‍♂️. Grettings from Norway 🇳🇴

@@ekluften Thanks Erik. What is the riding like in Norway? Really want to go back to Europe when Covid allows.

@@bestdayevermtb2 we have plenty places you would love to ride, special bikeparks and mountains. If i should highligt two, it would be: pellestova.no/en/aktivitet/mountain-biking/ and: www.trysil.com/en. And also Hallingdal is starting to be a great cycling destination (www.rides.no). 👍🚵‍♀️

I had the help of a professional camera guy for some of the shots as they made their own video. The sad part is my next video will look crap again.

Would be good to directly compare them. I liked how the SL handled but I think the power was lower still. Saying that I wouldn't swap my KTM for the Rise. My KTM is 24 kg but is awesome for jumping. I don't mind the heavy bike but many people would prefer a light one.

That is a great question and hadn't really thought about it. I think both are very similar. I do think both can be improved on and know doubt they will. Actually really interested to see the evolution of the e bike.

This is just my personal opinion but I would choose the wild FS. Given a choice between a light weight bike and a longer travel bike with bigger battery and more powerful motor I would choose the later. I know from experience if you ride with a group of e bikers you don't want the smallest battery and motor especially if you are not the fittest. This is just my opinion and many people would legitimately choose the Rise. The only thing against the FS is the model hasn't been updated for awhile now. Not sure if they have a new one coming.

@@bestdayevermtb2 i think your reasoning about getting the longer and bigger battery is the right choice specially if its going to be the only emtb. I think it was 2020 when they released the FS and thats one of my main concern of getting specially now that bosch just released their gen 5 motor

@@regularMattMatt The reality is what ever you get you will have fun on it. If you wait for a new model it is going to be dearer than on older one assuming you can actually get your hands on a bike. Good luck.

No, I didn't download the app. I usually don't mess around too much with the bikes I have been leant. Saying that the power to weight ratio on this bike felt pretty good.

Just checking comments on old videos and saw this one. Yes I was given some wrong info about weight from the distributor that morning we filmed. The bike did feel very light compared to my 24kg bike.

It felt similar to a steam bike .

I pedalled a flat ebike 6ks home. 23Kg. Hard but not impossible

I think any one but not 100% sure.

I believe $12500

That sounds like hard work.

Just at Woodhill.

@@bestdayevermtb2 must get up to Auckland! Looks fun.

They are downhill pants. Just trying them out. They are awesome to ride in.

What is your definition of average person. Average fitness, average skill, rides average length rides? I have ridden both bikes and both are great bikes. I think the Rise will actually suit a lot of average riders who just want to do trail rides without hitting up up big jumps. I meet lots of people who have full power e bikes but mostly ride in echo. A lighter bike with a bit less power would suit them well. My wife is very small. A full power e bike is half her weight. She struggles to handle this. A lighter bike with less suspension makes great sense for her.

I was thinking average skill level (male) rider where the weight difference isn't going to be that noticeable assuming they weigh at least 175 lbs

Firstly I did not make two videos. The first video you saw was made by Bike Lab but used footage of me. This video was made by me and gives my opinion of the bike. The guy's from Bike lab brought the bike up to Woodhill for me to try out. I knew the top of the range came in at 16.5kg and asked them how much this one weighed. They said they weighed it at 16.5 kg. It felt very light so went with that information. I don't sell bikes and get no benefit if any of these bikes sell. I was not paid to make the video. I enjoy making videos as a hobby. This is not how I make a living. I am not a professional but do my best with my limited resources. I do object to being called a liar. I had the bike for a week and showed it to many people who of course picked it up. All of them were amazed at how light it was and not one person said. This bike is clearly heavier than 16.5kg.

@@bestdayevermtb2 its 19 kilos !!!! for god sake !! do you research !!

@@bestdayevermtb2 well bike lab sells bikes, and that is where i saw you first, saying the same BS

Jesus relax fella !

Hey pizza dude. If you don't like the channel or content then don't watch it. If you watch enough of the videos on this channel it's pretty easy to figure out that lance is not a pro making a living from this but someone who brings an easy going level to the content he provides. Take from the info what you want but don't have a go because some of the stat's aren't 100%. Go do the research yourself if you think the figures aren't quite right. You'll find more real info and experience on this channel than any LBS will be able to provide you any day when it comes to ebikes.