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Super73 Z1 48V Upgrade Tutorial | RunPlayBack

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In this video, we give a step by step tutorial on how to upgrade your Super73 Z1 to 48 volts for more power, range and efficiency. Big shout out to Danielle - / diddykwong_racing and Kara - / missridiculouss for all the tips and inspiration for this build. #super73 #super73z1 #ebike
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Proceed at Your Own Risk - 1:30
Measuring the Parts - 2:05
Remove the Stock Battery - 2:42
Remove the Stock Controller - 3:16
Gut the Enclosure - 4:09
Battery Comparison - 5:02
Remove the Enclosure Tabs - 6:02
Connect the Motor Phase Wires - 7:24
Connect the Motor Sensor Wires - 10:57
Pedal Assist Wire - 14:04
Finish the Enclosure - 14:24
Mount the New Battery - 16:15
Mount the New Controller - 17:51
Program the Controller - 21:43
Install on the Frame - 24:37
First Impressions - 26:19
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@therandomvlogs
@therandomvlogs 4 жыл бұрын
Finally we have some custom Z1 content, mainly your DIY’s. Much needed in this community. Thanks for doing this!
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother! I'm always happy to help! We're building up a massive Z1 community right now!
@trevororr5494
@trevororr5494 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. Thanks for doing this. Do you have a video for the seat upgrade?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Trevor Orr yup I'm working on that now!
@YaTuChavez
@YaTuChavez 4 жыл бұрын
This has got to be the absolute best z1 out there!
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@xJ3YQx
@xJ3YQx Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to drop a thanks, I finally did this mod after my Super73 battery took a crap ( confirmed that it had dead cells). When I contacted Super73 they wanted to charge me $600!!! After just staring at my bike for a couple of months of just staring at my useless bike I bite the bullet and started this upgrade. I had a few hiccups but It's now running awesome!!
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear! Enjoy the ride! 👍
@RaphaelValencia-tw4nk
@RaphaelValencia-tw4nk 8 ай бұрын
I need your help to finish my install. Nowhere in the video does it show how to connect the display to the controller. No plugs match to what is left available. I’m all Ready to go so PLEASE reach out. 🙏🏻👊🏻
@vanmasterflash7153
@vanmasterflash7153 4 жыл бұрын
Great mod, It's been working great for over a year no issues. Motor seems to handle it well. Yours is much cleaner!!! Great video
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Same controller? Have you noticed any overheating issues?
@noobygrinchz
@noobygrinchz 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack it’s overheating? Which lcd did u choose lcd 8?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
@@noobygrinchz yeah LCD 8 color version
@brandonfithian719
@brandonfithian719 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack can you use the stock thumb throttle with this set up? Having some trouble adapting to this controller.
@thebrotherhood7043
@thebrotherhood7043 Жыл бұрын
@@brandonfithian719 did you figure it out ?
@chilluminare
@chilluminare 3 жыл бұрын
Super73 should take notes and make this Z2 version. Thx for posting.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@ALBGR8
@ALBGR8 10 ай бұрын
I tried the speed hack by cutting the white wire like some youtube video suggested and it fried my controller. Use my multimeter to check the controller and found out by cutting the white cable, five mosfets inside the controller are blown. So I decided to fix the bike myself and tried this upgrade shown by Rick. It took a couple of weeks to get all the parts in while my Z1 sit in the living room sadly, staring at me. When all the parts finally arrived, I went to work and lo and behold, the Z1 is repaired with new LED monitor, new throttle that's very responsive, and new controller. The one thing I did not do is swap the battery because the battery I purchased from China is too long to fit inside the seat. Now my bike runs normal again. I achieved 20 mph with the stock battery. I am going to add a second battery, the one that did not fit, into a new housing and use power switcher to switch one battery to another. That way, I have two batteries on my Z1 when I need to take an extended trip. This new controller is able to automatically detect the Volt on the battery and adjust itself. Thanks Rick for sharing this very valuable video with the community. I replayed this video probably 10 times while going step by step process of fixing my Z1.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 10 ай бұрын
That's awesome..glad this video is still helpful! The Z1 is a classic that has the best variety of mods out there! Enjoy your ride!
@mr.crispy8932
@mr.crispy8932 6 ай бұрын
Dude I did the same thing and idk what to do. Is there any easier ways to do it and just keep the same power? Like maybe a plug and play
@ALBGR8
@ALBGR8 6 ай бұрын
@@mr.crispy8932 Did you fried the controller? if you did, you need to either replace the controller or overhaul the set up but keep the original battery like I did.
@mr.crispy8932
@mr.crispy8932 6 ай бұрын
@@ALBGR8Hey I bought a new controller for the bike and we soldered the wires to the new controller and the connectors and it won’t turn on
@mr.crispy8932
@mr.crispy8932 6 ай бұрын
@@ALBGR8the last two wires are different colors from the original so it’s confusing
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
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@designsbydm1519
@designsbydm1519 4 жыл бұрын
Top speed and range? Trying to get my sons z1 to keep up with my R series 🤣
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
@@designsbydm1519 I'll have a follow up vid soon but I'm seeing 30-35mph top speed and depending on weight/terrain/how much you throttle maybe 30-40 miles range.
@steveflannery1270
@steveflannery1270 4 жыл бұрын
This is super helpful!!! Very detailed and at the right pace. Very easy as long as you have some basic electrical skill. Thanks for taking the effort to making such a high quality video.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
No problem, I'm happy to help! Yup it is a pretty straightforward project with some basic DIY skills. Like a good weekend project :)
@steveflannery1270
@steveflannery1270 4 жыл бұрын
RunPlayBack damn. I just spent more money to buy the battery and controller! I don’t need/want more speed, but the range would be awesome. Can’t wait to start the project when the parts come in.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
@@steveflannery1270 Nice! Definitely feels like a whole new bike. Let me know if you have any questions when you start your build. I'm happy to help!
@godfatherofdrums
@godfatherofdrums 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video the community is forever in debt to you! 🤙🏼
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm always happy to help and share especially when it comes to DIY!
@bulletproof4716
@bulletproof4716 2 жыл бұрын
Just did the his 48v upgrade and my z1 is scary fast and torque great
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Enjoy the ride!!
@michaelarcangel5862
@michaelarcangel5862 2 жыл бұрын
Which throttle did you end up using? The linked one in the description is unavailable on amazon now.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelarcangel5862 This seems to be the same one: amzn.to/3lO0ARA
@michaelarcangel5862
@michaelarcangel5862 2 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack Quick reply! Thanks, just need to find the battery.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelarcangel5862 hit up Brick Lithium on Facebook or Instagram
@ImaginaryFilm
@ImaginaryFilm 3 жыл бұрын
just did my swap on the zg (EU version) and it works perfect tutorial helped very much
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, always happy to help!
@BigKidsOfficial
@BigKidsOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see some DIY content! I subbed to you in your esk8 days. Love the look and feel of the channel!
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Hey brother! Yup I remember! I pretty much left the ESK8 scene after that whole Carvon fiasco and got more into ebikes. I really haven't done a DIY project like this since those days so it was fun to break out the soldering kit again. Hope you are well!
@kevo212
@kevo212 4 жыл бұрын
awesome vid Rik! Lot of work to do this. Can’t wait to see the performance video, this would be a great project for my Z, thanks for the indepth step by step video
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! Yup lots of work but easy enough to knock out in a weekend with the right tools. Hit me up if you decide to do it, I think you'd love it to be honest. It's like a totally different feeling now.
@kevo212
@kevo212 4 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack For sure! thanks, I'm already looking at your parts list haha. I know I want to do this, just need your videos for inspiration
@Pdmakesenc
@Pdmakesenc 4 жыл бұрын
Which I would have looked at this before cutting my Z1 up and going for it lmao!! Great video!!! My mod keeps shutting down it cuts off and my motor is like struggling to keep the throttle going
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Pablo! Oh no, that doesn't sound good. Sounds like a controller issue? Might have to be replaced.
@Pdmakesenc
@Pdmakesenc 4 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack not sure yet, it was acting up when I'd switch the mode to 4-5 on the LCD monitor. (I didn't get the color screen) it would work sometimes 1-3.. going to look into that more. Hoping it's not the controller, but you could be right.
@flpparts
@flpparts 3 жыл бұрын
Such a well done video !!! Keep it up brotha can’t wait to see more mods
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bricklithium6865
@bricklithium6865 3 жыл бұрын
Going to do my conversion tonight without having to research what needs to be done. I am forever grateful for this tutorial, thanks again brother!
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frank enjoy your ride! 😀
@JPTake3
@JPTake3 4 жыл бұрын
Rik. Awesome job. Thank you. Keep up the good work. And say mahalo to your other helper. Awesome bro
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Will do! Thank you brother 🙌
@JPTake3
@JPTake3 4 жыл бұрын
RunPlayBack oh no. Your doing great job. I follow you on Super73 also as Jr Par. And enjoy how your family is involved. I’m getting my other half involved too. So. May give her the Z1 and I get the S2. But after you did this awesome mod. Maybe I get another Z1. Again keep up the good work. Be safe. Give this man two thumbs up and more.
@Maverik36
@Maverik36 4 жыл бұрын
Good Job! I'm thinking about taking the plunge. I wanted to leave it at 36v though. Waiting on your test vid
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Yup I'm gathering up that footage this week. :)
@trevororr5494
@trevororr5494 4 жыл бұрын
Does the 48v hurt the hub motor at all?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Trevor Orr not that I noticed. I believe it's the same motor on the S1 500w nominal, 1000w peak. So it's really just unlocking a little more power from the motor with these upgrades.
@voidofthings3041
@voidofthings3041 5 ай бұрын
I have a z1 i have hardly touched since 2022 and want to know if this upgrade is still the best option in 2024
@robjazful
@robjazful 2 жыл бұрын
bro that was awesome. thank you
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
any time!
@Pdmakesenc
@Pdmakesenc 4 жыл бұрын
Big ups to karacold!!!!
@RayCUnderwood
@RayCUnderwood 3 жыл бұрын
The brick lithium site is offline. Is there another option you are using for the battery replacement?
@dinoscottgrindle5384
@dinoscottgrindle5384 3 жыл бұрын
RIC...on the controller I installed, the wires are the same as your tutorial. The install went great,.. but now. I bought a bigger one ( sine savaton 1000 to 2000 watt 45 amp- universal voltage. 36 volt to 72 volt). It's missing the white wire on it's hall sensor grouping. Someone on Facebook told me that missing white wire isn't needed because it's for temperature semsing.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
yeah that should be fine then, you can leave the white wire alone
@bricklithium6865
@bricklithium6865 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome videos! The link for speed controller/lcd is no longer available. Do you have another? I’d rather purchase the right gear the first time 😜
@bricklithium6865
@bricklithium6865 3 жыл бұрын
Found it, or at least 1 very similar: HALLOMOTOR 35A 36V 48V 1000W 1200W Brushless Ebike Controller DC Sine Wave Silver 35A Regenerative Reverse Function + KT LCD8H Color Matrix Display Meter Control Panel www.amazon.com/dp/B07M5R261X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_fGy7FbQ0AGFSQ
@keithmurphy9583
@keithmurphy9583 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Would love to see the pedal assist install.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely I can do that, it's a pretty simple installation.
@BoxCarRacer808
@BoxCarRacer808 2 жыл бұрын
You’re awesome man! Thank you for this vid! One question- For the programming, how did you get the numbers for that? What would I have to enter for the C sections for pedal assist?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
So I'm not 100% sure what the pedal assist settings are since I didn't install it but this video is the best explanation / walk through for that controller/display: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJZ2adtpu5ayioU.html
@phoenixrson6374
@phoenixrson6374 8 ай бұрын
is there a new link for the battery? I can't find the one in the video using the link in the description, also can a 36volt motor/hub handle the 48-volt battery?
@moisestorres9618
@moisestorres9618 3 жыл бұрын
"That' coming right up!" ;D
@GusBusOfficial
@GusBusOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a different thumb throttle people are using? the one on here is out of stock/unavailable :(
@greg6162
@greg6162 2 жыл бұрын
*Dude?! wish I wasn’t 6’3* because I’m way to big for SUPER73’s bike frame’s 😔 but this was complicated but you must be an engineer by trade because that was awesome! I could use a little off-road setup like this to take to my secret 🤫 fishing honey hole’s. I wonder if they sell a fishing rod holder for this Lol 😝 Honestly, everything seems really custom and DIY so with a bit of creativity I bet I could rig something up. *I love the look of the Super73-RX frame with the dual shock’s... it’s probably my favorite frame even to this day* Wish frame wasn’t so low to the ground because at 6’3 199/lbs… I don’t see me being able to pedal this without looking like the Jolly Green Giant who keep’s kneeing himself in the face while trying to pedal on this sweet a$$ frame piece🤣. Seriously tho, I really think the Super73-RX frame’s are still the sexiest looking setup’s. I would love to hook up dual 1000w-motors with like dual 60V-20ah batteries, the open frame space would probably accommodate it somehow and with a boss-a$$ controller I’d be so smooth,pedal free and riding dead sexy!!! Awe man the possibilities with this frame!!!! I hope the *new Super73 CX-1 brings the frame up for taller rider’s?!*
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
I hear ya! Yeah the Z1 is probably too small. An RX is definitely more suitable for taller riders. 👍👍
@elishuagutierrez1759
@elishuagutierrez1759 3 жыл бұрын
Hey ,love the video did everything and my screen is saying motor position fault please help! @runplayback
@michaelbradley7704
@michaelbradley7704 2 жыл бұрын
As a first try you did OK. But... This is what I'd do, change the battery Voltage to a 52v (for me even higher maybe 60v) so you spend more time at 48v when discharging, remember Voltage is your speed and AMPs is your Torque. The amount of your AMP's is what generates any heat in your controller or motor. So higher voltage means same heat if you are using less AMP's to achieve the same Watt's (speed on the road). Voltage times AMP's = Watts or V times A = W (which) = Heat and Speed. Another thing to improve is the controller, there are only 3 types. Square wave, Sin wave and FOC (Field Orientated Controller) , its hard to describe but I have listed them worse to best. A square wave controller is like trying to ride a skate board up and down a stair case, a sin wave controller is like skate boarding a U shaped ramp and FOC is like surfing an undulating endless wave on a calm ocean. I can tell which you are using by the loudness of the noise being made by your electric motor as the more efficient will make less sound therefore square wave is noisy and FOC is silent. I won't bother with the first 2 as listed as you have probably encountered them already. The best FOC is sold by Grin Tech electric bikes in Canada, it is very small but depending on which model you purchase is about one third the size of your controller in the video. FOC features are much better and offer a wider range of voltages and AMP's, Self programming Hall wires so you don't have to "colour match", Regenerative braking (I have not bought brake pads for my bike for the last 3 years), and the motor I have is completely silent. I could go on and on about FOC but just watch their video's on their controller.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
This video is almost 2 years old. This is the latest iteration of this build: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q6-hhMly3bbDhmg.html
@mimig8023
@mimig8023 3 жыл бұрын
Hi can you put a fresh link to a newer battery option? That eBay link is dead
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Try LiteSpeedBikes: litespeedbikes.mybigcommerce.com/48v21ah-super-73-in-seat-battery/
@mimig8023
@mimig8023 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dvbtxstsrgetrtcfasdy
@dvbtxstsrgetrtcfasdy 2 жыл бұрын
I put on the same controller and I do not recommend it because it heats up terribly, you can cook a dinner on it, do not buy it 500 watts too weak for this motor, I will add that it was only checked in the workshop without load. Video nice thx
@ryanremigio8527
@ryanremigio8527 2 жыл бұрын
Solid Tutorial bro! I don't have a super73 I do have a Hurley Mini Swell that comes stock with a 48v battery and 500watt hub that goes a max speed of 20mph. My question is if I was to remove my stock control panel and add this LCD Screen to my bike would I be able to go past the 20mph?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! So I'm not 100% sure that would work as the stock controller might have it limited to 20mph through the hardware. I think your best bet is to replace both the controller and LED display and figure out a way to rig the controller to the bike and your stock 48v battery to the new controller.
@ryanremigio8527
@ryanremigio8527 2 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack thanks bro. I’ll probably check it out one day
@pieterhelpt
@pieterhelpt 3 жыл бұрын
Hold on... The type of original controller in the Z1 is that : "CR M1000SP SP" ???? If so, then I've got the same controller in the EU version, which means throttle is possible !? No ?
@VPR1EIGHT7
@VPR1EIGHT7 4 жыл бұрын
Very detailed informative video. Super glad to see you help the super73 community out. For the programming of the controller does it come with information on each setting on what number to set it on? Also noticed you bought connectors also? What was it used for?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Yup there's actually a great tutorial on programming the controller here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJZ2adtpu5ayioU.html The connector was for connecting the battery (T-Plug) to the controller (XT-60).
@VPR1EIGHT7
@VPR1EIGHT7 4 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack awesome. I'm guessing because the og battery uses a dean's plug correct? Anyway badass vid brother. Can't wait to see the PAS install if you do decide to install it 👍
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
@@VPR1EIGHT7 yup although the t-plug was actually on the new battery so I think it was just a coincidence. Yup PAS install is pretty simple I'll look into it. I just don't really like PAS when it's always on but I think there's a way to program it so you turn it on and off in the display.
@sandovalfamily8119
@sandovalfamily8119 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video bro. Best one I've seen in awhile. Extremely well detailed and you described every step perfectly. I have a Z1, so bow how much labor do you charge do this for me? 😅 - Phil
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Phil! Thanks so much for watching! Haha I don't really charge to do mods...I prefer just sharing the knowledge lol. I'm sure there's someone local who could help you out though!
@MrTurkeybags
@MrTurkeybags 2 жыл бұрын
Nice vid pare! Ayo i want to upgrade my z1 with a 36v battery that fits in the seat. Any suggestions that fit? Thanks mane
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I think only custom battery builders offer that now. Try Brick Lithium on Facebook.
@TheDOOKIEonYOU
@TheDOOKIEonYOU 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and thank you. Do you have to swap out the stock thumb throttle for the one you have linked? Also since the link expired. What other 48v battery will work. I’m Trying to purchase the whole set at once to get mine rolln ASAP. Mahalo 🤙🏽
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it's recommended to swap out the stock throttle because it may not be able to handle 48 volts. Here's the best option for a high quality 48v battery - litespeedbikes.mybigcommerce.com/18650-battery-packs/
@CBSGaming-cq1ki
@CBSGaming-cq1ki 8 күн бұрын
Does it work if I just get the controller not the battery
@user-od8rp9ur9l
@user-od8rp9ur9l 4 ай бұрын
I bought Z1 with upgrade to my son, but looks like controller died few days later. Is there any substitutes in Amazon or eBay I can quickly purchase? It will be super helpful
@vinco9332
@vinco9332 9 күн бұрын
Hello what is the with of the battery
@charlesfowles4277
@charlesfowles4277 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there great video, would all these components work on the ZG by any chance?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it would!
@shanefulmer5607
@shanefulmer5607 Жыл бұрын
Wat would I need to hinge me seat up like yours I'm just not ready for upholstery I'm more wondering how the hinge attached to the battery box
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack Жыл бұрын
Just add a hinge at the back. You can get a hinge at your local hardware store. You can see it more clearly at 25:53 marker if you change the playback speed to 0.5
@codyrowe2875
@codyrowe2875 3 жыл бұрын
Hi man was wondering if you could provide a diagram of what goes where? As in which wire you used for the throttle. Plugged mine up and the LCD is good to go but it's not getting throttle. Thanks a lot for your help!
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure the 3 wires on the throttle wires are matching the 3 wires on the throttle input of the stock controller. Should be black/black / red/red and then whatever 3rd color to 3rd color.
@Dropoff510
@Dropoff510 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this video helped me with my install. I was wondering where did you find out how to program the display?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
I asked some other folks with the same display and also trial and error.
@zig3
@zig3 3 жыл бұрын
Battery link is dead. New link?
@kierlane8320
@kierlane8320 2 жыл бұрын
This is great content and I'm trying to upgrade my son's Z1 with the controler you recommended. It seems like I will also need to replace the throttle and the brakes since Super73 has a different wiring schema than the controller. Is that correct or have you figured out a way to make the stock parts work?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
That's correct, you'll need to replace the throttle. The brakes are fine, you just have to disconnect the sensors.
@Its_freemund
@Its_freemund 3 жыл бұрын
You could just solder the motor phase wires instead of using the bullet connectors right?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Yup you can!
@caroflage6260
@caroflage6260 4 ай бұрын
hi, great video. do you know if this works on the eu version (ZG) aswell?
@Opium_Uchiha
@Opium_Uchiha Жыл бұрын
can you only put in the controller or will that not work
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack Жыл бұрын
You can but it would be somewhat pointless. The battery and controller as a pair increase the performance.
@michaelarcangel5862
@michaelarcangel5862 2 жыл бұрын
Is it necessary to upgrade the stock motor on the bike or is it fine with the new battery?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
It's fine for 48v and 52v but top speed will cap out around 33-35mph.
@bernardosuss
@bernardosuss 2 жыл бұрын
Man, one year later you’ve posted this video i just got my Z1 and one of my first impressions is that the battery should be bigger. Did you choose the 48V for a specific video? How big is that in relation to the stock one? I really have zero understanding of batteries.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
I chose 48v because it would fit inside of the stock seat and I wanted a little more torque with the aftermarket controller. The easiest way to upgrade to a bigger battery and simply get more range is to get the ChiBatterySystems battery for the Z1.
@RRGCGarage
@RRGCGarage 4 жыл бұрын
How did you figure out the motor p settings? Did you figure out the gear reduction and magnet count?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
I tried looking for info on the motor but couldn't find any. I based my P settings roughly on a Bafang 500w hub and settings from other users with the same setup.
@Tony_Tech
@Tony_Tech 2 ай бұрын
What’s the battery? And where can I find it?
@jacegarcia4410
@jacegarcia4410 6 ай бұрын
hey awesome video dude would this be compatible with the zx?
@hotanhonarvar4437
@hotanhonarvar4437 6 ай бұрын
I had a question in regards to the throttle wires. I have 2 colors that do not match. Any ideas?
@avoirunevieextraordinaire2000
@avoirunevieextraordinaire2000 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. Nice Video. Just a question, I have made same stuff like you with another controller but not working ... I wanted to know if you need to connect too the brakes in order to works or or not ?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
No I didn't connect the controller to the brakes. It doesn't really require a brake/motor cutoff.
@BeCamiloVideos
@BeCamiloVideos 4 жыл бұрын
hi!! very nice video, i'm using it as inspiration for the mods i'm working on my Z1, thanks for making this detailed video. i have a question, the wires for the headlight of the controller, do you know what is the V output on those? if i have a 12v light do i need to also add a converter? again, thanks for the help. best
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Hector! So I've actually had some issues with the headlight wires. They actually output 48v and I did add a converter to step it down to 12v but for whatever reason it was really buggy and would cut off intermittently. I decided to not use those wires and opted for a physical switch instead.
@BeCamiloVideos
@BeCamiloVideos 4 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack great, good to know, thank you
@avoirunevieextraordinaire2000
@avoirunevieextraordinaire2000 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. Nice video : ) I have made same think like you but when I accelerate I just the sound of the motor inside the wheel .. but nothing move. I have forget something ?
@jxboba
@jxboba 3 жыл бұрын
Watched every single video, thanks for the clarity. Question: if I wanted to replace the battery like you did but not the controller and keep the on/off switch, How would you do that if the aftermarket battery only comes with two wires?
@tkoguy
@tkoguy 3 жыл бұрын
The stock controller cannot handle 48v
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
You'll need to upgrade the controller as well. Unless your upgrading the battery to a different 36v.
@avoirunevieextraordinaire2000
@avoirunevieextraordinaire2000 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. just a question, this is not a problem if your battery is 1000 watts, when your controller handle less like 500 watts ? Not dangerous ? Can I use a 350w battery on a controller for 1000w for example ? And same about amper ? The battery delivery 20Ah, when controller rated current is 12Ah.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
From what I understand the controller can handle less watts but not more than what it's rated for. For example, I wouldn't try a 52v battery on a controller that's rated to handle a 36/48v. The motor has a little more flexibility. For example the Z1 motor is rated 500watts nominal and 1000watts peak which is why this 48v conversion doesn't blow it. I don't think the controller has the same kind of leeway.
@enjoyus100
@enjoyus100 3 жыл бұрын
So how is the bike 4 months after the install? Does the battery still hold charge? Does it still have the same torque? Would I need a cooling fan for the my bike as it gets around 35°c over the summer?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dean! Its great I have no complaints. The battery still holds a charge and has the same amount of torque. I take really good care of it and keep the battery indoors so no issues. I thought of a cooling fan but never really needed it. Some people install their controllers on the outside of the enclosure to keep it cool.
@agustin31100
@agustin31100 Жыл бұрын
This won’t burn or melt the 500 watt motor ?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack Жыл бұрын
Nope it won't.
@LazieReaper
@LazieReaper 3 жыл бұрын
Battery link is not working, any chance you could share the name or another link?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
I think this might be the same one - make sure it's 13s4p though www.ebay.com/itm/48V-20AH-Li-ion-Battery-Volt-Rechargeable-Bicycle-1000W-E-Bike-Electric-Li-ion/392959329066
@enjoyus100
@enjoyus100 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack how do you know it's a 13s4p? There is nothing in the Ebay item description? Is this the right battery?
@enjoyus100
@enjoyus100 3 жыл бұрын
This seems to be bigger in dimensions than the battery you bought! Can you provide a link with the correct battery?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
@@enjoyus100 looks like it's not available on ebay anymore. I would hit up this company based in Chicago and ask them for a custom Z1 battery, they are legit chibatterysystems.com/
@dinoscottgrindle5384
@dinoscottgrindle5384 4 жыл бұрын
Rick another question, does the original 36v controler have a pedal assist connection, or a LCD connection? I want to put pedal assist on my z1 when it arrives in October....thx bro.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Dino! The original 36v stock controller does not have a pedal assist or LCD connection as far as I know. You're best bet would be to upgrade the controller like the one I link in the video. You could also just replace the controller and not the battery to keep things simple.
@thatguyandrew7631
@thatguyandrew7631 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it, but what is the T-plug to XT60 Adapter for? Love the content and informative guide. Looking to do this on my daily commuting bike and would like to make sure I got everything I'll need.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
So the T-Plug adapter goes on the battery so it can connect to the controller which is XT60.
@thatguyandrew7631
@thatguyandrew7631 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack Awesome! Thank you for the fast response. Just bought everything I'll need. Any chance you could link the anti spark switch from luna cycles?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatguyandrew7631 yup this one with XT60 connector lunacycle.com/remote-on-off-solid-state-switch/
@thatguyandrew7631
@thatguyandrew7631 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack Just finished my 48v swap and couldn't be happier! Used a solder free method and I've been running solid for a week or so now. Also opted out of using velcro and instead used weather stripping and a latch & hinge for weather proofing the housing. Thanks again for the awesome guide, loving this z1 enough to maybe cancel my RX preorder!
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatguyandrew7631 That's amazing to hear! Really glad you're enjoying it. I feel like the Z1 upgrade definitely has more torque than the RX off the line.
@ashleysanchez5727
@ashleysanchez5727 2 жыл бұрын
So in your measurements of the original battery you only measured the length and the height What’s the width? Or am I missing something? And also what exact connectors should the battery come with. It’s harder now because brick lithium has halted its production And I don’t wanna pay light speed bikes almost $700 for a battery that fits in the seat.
@anthonybattani4470
@anthonybattani4470 4 ай бұрын
where did you get the battery
@Catsniffer14
@Catsniffer14 5 ай бұрын
Would the controller you installed still work with the bikes stock battery?
@Rogue_1987
@Rogue_1987 3 жыл бұрын
What about the Super 73 RX to increase speed and torque? Would a simple Grinn Phaserunner on the existing motor and battery work for this?
@36tashia
@36tashia 2 жыл бұрын
We're do I find the link of the description of the parts. Also I seen on ebay they sell the controller and the throttle together would that work or I have to buy the one u have
@Zackbrooks737
@Zackbrooks737 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I think my motor is spinning backwards tho. Can I just switch 2 of the phase wires?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 ай бұрын
Yup that should work!
@Zackbrooks737
@Zackbrooks737 4 ай бұрын
@@RunPlayBack thanks for the reply. I thought something was wrong with the motor so I took it apart. Put it back together and now it’s making a grinding noise. So, pretty sure I messed it up…. Now looking for a new motor.
@Zackbrooks737
@Zackbrooks737 4 ай бұрын
@@RunPlayBack I also didn't program the controller? I don't really see what I needed to?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 ай бұрын
@@Zackbrooks737 follow the same numbers I have at 21:45
@Zackbrooks737
@Zackbrooks737 4 ай бұрын
@@RunPlayBack I didn’t buy the same controller as you, didn’t find your video until after I ordered. Mine didn’t come with the same display etc.
@TheDOOKIEonYOU
@TheDOOKIEonYOU 3 жыл бұрын
Are we able to hook a up the same LCD speedometer up to the stock controller on the z1
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure you can't. I don't remember any port for a display. The only display for the stock controller was connected to the throttle. It's worth getting the new controller along with the LCD display. If your just looking for a speedometer just mount a phone on the handlebars.
@bryangarfinkle5097
@bryangarfinkle5097 3 жыл бұрын
What about going to a 52w battery? Would I need a new controller too? Di you think that would be a good upgrade or am I just going too far?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
A few have done it, definitely possible. It's also more expensive than this upgrade. Only you can decide what's right for you.
@dinoscottgrindle5384
@dinoscottgrindle5384 3 жыл бұрын
Ok RIC. I finally got my z1 with a dual voltage (36v & 48v) controller and a second 48 volt battery on the frame. I have pedal assist..l.c.d everything. Thank you for your help, but now I have a new problem. I bought a second massive controler...savaton universal voltage..can go 36 to 72 volt batteries..but, there is only 5 hall sensor wires instead to 6. .blue/ green/ black/ yellow/ red. How do I match these 5 to the motors 6 wires... Any clue bro?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dino! The wire colors should match up and whatever isn't being used don't worry about them. Do most of the colors match up?
@henryho3551
@henryho3551 3 жыл бұрын
Did this mod. Having a few issues. 1: throttle won’t read. I checked the wires like you showed in video and made sure the colors were lined up. (No throttle shows up on lcd screen) 2: lcd powers on when u connect the battery. U can use the control switch to go thru settings and turn it off. But it won’t power on from power button alone.
@enjoyus100
@enjoyus100 3 жыл бұрын
How come he doesn't help/reply to these problems?
@mikepoloful
@mikepoloful 3 жыл бұрын
Would you rather buy a 73 Z1 and do this or buy a juiced City scrambler?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Z1 because of the community and how much you can mod it. The Juiced Scrambler is a fun bike, I've rode it before - but it's more of ready to run kind of bike. The Z1 is like the bike for people who love to customize their stuff or upgrade and make it more powerful.
@FelixDumond
@FelixDumond 3 ай бұрын
Where do I get the battery
@nickynice617
@nickynice617 Жыл бұрын
I did this conversion and the bike keeps shorting out, asking around someone said it's most likely the settings (bike shuts off at 700W almost on the dot) anywhere I can find the what each settings are? I bought the same controller/screen but no instructions. Thanks!
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack Жыл бұрын
I would suggest checking your battery/BMS, what is it rated for? Continuous and peak current (amperage)? Once you have that confirmed, then you can program the controller so that it does not exceed your battery's limitations.
@reviewanything530
@reviewanything530 3 жыл бұрын
How about leaving the opening open for ventilation instead of using gorilla tape? I’ve watched other videos too regarding overheating. What you think?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that would work, I was just concerned with water going inside of the enclosure and getting trapped near the battery terminals. I haven't had any issues with overheating but that just might be my riding style. If you're slamming the throttle for long stretches it will overheat the controller. Mounting the controller outside seems to work for others. But until I run into any issues, I prefer the minimal aesthetic of keeping everything hidden inside of the seat. That's just my two cents but everyone's build is a little different which is great. Once you get started you discover your own way of modding things.
@reviewanything530
@reviewanything530 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack I’ve never thought about the water issues. Just did the speed hack and I’m not contented with the speed. Now looking into doing the 48v conversion. Just saving up for it. Thanks for the quick reply. Great job on your videos 👏
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
@@reviewanything530 No problem, let me know if you have any questions when you get started, I'm always happy to help. Good luck! 👍
@ericloyola5970
@ericloyola5970 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this mod would work on my Ariel X-Class? Its currently pushing top at 28mph. It has a rear hub bafang 750w.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah it probably could...I'm not sure where the controller lives in the X-Class but if you can find it and it's easy enough to replace..why not?
@lekivicuna3347
@lekivicuna3347 3 жыл бұрын
Is the throttle necessary, or can I just use stock...because I can’t find one with black option, thanks! The link has no more
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
I would get a new throttle - it's been reported that the stock Z1 throttle might not be able to handle 48 volts.
@lekivicuna3347
@lekivicuna3347 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack you by chance wouldn’t know who still stocks the 6 pin black option would you?fyi thanks for your content without it we would struggle lol!
@lekivicuna3347
@lekivicuna3347 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack I found them on alli express I appreciate all the info and actually responding much respect aloha
@billmos
@billmos 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Awesome video! 13s3p or 13s4p for battery? what is the difference?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
13s3p is 39 cells while 13s4p is 52 cells. More cells means more range.
@billmos
@billmos 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack thank you
@haydendominguez3012
@haydendominguez3012 11 ай бұрын
Hey, I just got a used z1 and the battery after full charge only last an hour at most. Trying to change the battery so I can actually use the thing. I was thinking of getting the same battery but now I want to upgrade it entirely if I’m gonna spend the money. Found a 48v-12ah battery that’s 9.84 in long, 3.4in wide and 2.75inch tall. Will this fit into the seat? Also, do I need to change the controller to change the battery?
@BrettsGarage
@BrettsGarage 3 жыл бұрын
I was debating about doing the 48V upgrade, but decided I don't really need the extra speed and don't want to mess with a new controller and an LCD screen. Can I just swap out the 36V battery with a larger 36V 20Ah to get better range, or will it possibly fry some stuff? Also, looks like the brand of battery you're using is OKoman, still recommend them after almost a year?
@noobygrinchz
@noobygrinchz 3 жыл бұрын
Could u use the bigger battery on the stock internals?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
As long as it's a 36v battery with more amp hours it won't blow the stock controller. More than 36v it'll probably blow the controller. The stock motor is fine at 48v.
@yungcrossfit
@yungcrossfit 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! What did you end up doing with the brake sensor wires? Is there a way to connect those? Or any advantage/disadvantage to keeping them unplugged?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! So I didn't use them since I changed the throttle and brakes. I don't think there's any advantage to using them since I usually let go of the throttle when I brake. I don't really need a sensor to cut the motor off.
@yungcrossfit
@yungcrossfit 4 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack Perfect! I wanted to make sure I wasn't doing any damage by not connecting them. Thanks so much for your reply and for making this tutorial. I added a 36v 20000mAh battery and the controller you recommended and the thing is so much more fun to ride now.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
@@yungcrossfit Awesome! Thanks for watching and enjoy the ride!
@josaurabonet4388
@josaurabonet4388 2 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack I did the conversion and the motor doesn’t run. Any suggestions? I re-installed the motor wires twice and replaced the bullet connectors as well. But the motor will not run.
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
@@josaurabonet4388 Did you put the power level above 0? If it's at 0 the motor won't run.
@manutokomaata5368
@manutokomaata5368 3 жыл бұрын
So do I use a Anderson to xt60 to use the controller and my stock battery?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@Burronster
@Burronster Жыл бұрын
Can you help me out I’m trying to wire a key voltage switch on my rx can you tell me how to wire it up
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack Жыл бұрын
You can tap into the battery harness wires for the most accurate voltage reading or can also tap into the cable feeding into the display. First, you'll need to open the cable and find the positive battery/power wire and the ground/return wire. Second, is cut the positive/battery wire. Third, IIRC, the keyed voltage switch has 3 wires, #1 is the black wire -- which you'll need to tap into to the cable's ground/return wire (you can use a wire tap), #2 is the red wire -- which you'll connect to the cut positive/battery wire going towards the display (if you chose the display cable) or the controller (if you chose the battery harness), #3 is the green wire -- which you'll connect to the positive/battery wire going towards the controller (if you chose the display cable) or towards the battery (if you chose the battery harness). This is all obviously at your own risk, GL :)
@tkoguy
@tkoguy 3 жыл бұрын
Any thoughts on leaving the 36v volt battery as a back-up and installing a frame mount 48v battery? The controller auto detects what volt the system is running. My plan is running a 48v 18mah on the frame and leaving the 36v as a back-up on long trips. This way all I have to do is switch the plugs (I plan to re-wire outside the seat) when I want to switch over to the 36v. Any thoughts?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah would definitely work. If you are okay with having a bit of a heavier bike for the added range why not? Are you usually doing long trips on this bike?
@tkoguy
@tkoguy 3 жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack Im a road cyclist doing 30 to 50 miles on a ride and I need the long-range so my wife can follow me. My Juice Scrambler with the 19ah battery will do it but the wife has a hard time reaching the ground since she's a little short. This will also be able to keep up with the Scrambler on the 30 to 50-mile rides.
@jahhdenn1430
@jahhdenn1430 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video! It’s giving me a lot of confidence lol. Got a question if you might know the answer. I wanted to do pedal assist on my z1 but not planning on upgraded to a bigger battery yet. I would basically do the same thing you did in this video but with a 36v controller that supports pedal assist right?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack Жыл бұрын
Yes that's right...there's a video I published right after this one that shows how I installed pedal assist.
@jahhdenn1430
@jahhdenn1430 Жыл бұрын
@@RunPlayBack yes I’ve been watching a few of your videos to see if I wanna do the 48v upgrade or not. I just picked up a used z1, better late than never lol! But your videos are super helpful so I appreciate it!
@jahhdenn1430
@jahhdenn1430 11 ай бұрын
Hey man! Sorry to bother. Was just curious when you were programming the controller did you have it connected to the motor at all? Or was it just connected to the battery?
@deadluck_tm
@deadluck_tm 3 жыл бұрын
Is the motor extension cord a 9pin? My z1 caught on fire and im doing a rebuild...the hubmotor cord is short
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it's 11 pin but I don't know the exact specs of the connector. You could also just forego the connectors and splice the wires directly.
@brokebroke5950
@brokebroke5950 Жыл бұрын
how do you get to the program screen? how do you stop it from being so jerky
@marius1700
@marius1700 4 жыл бұрын
Cool. When’s the next video?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
It should be ready by early next week. Stay tuned 😀
@JacobHernandez1311
@JacobHernandez1311 Жыл бұрын
What amp hours is your battery
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack Жыл бұрын
I think it was about 13ah.
@marscortes
@marscortes 3 жыл бұрын
Yo boss that T-plug to xt60 , the battery end is male and the xt60 from the controller is a male? Just for clarification. I need female adaptor from end to end to connect the two? Confusing enough lol? Thanks bro mabuhay from S.cali
@Burronster
@Burronster 2 жыл бұрын
Is this process the same with the rx because I want to upgrade the controller on it
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! I don't know exactly how the RX is wired but once you remove the controller, you can pretty much wire it up the same way depending on what aftermarket controller you go with. I would reach out to www.e-streetbikes.store/ as they have more info on the latest kits for the RX.
@arnied4253
@arnied4253 4 жыл бұрын
With all the stuff that you bought, wouldnt it just be better off buying a S2 or zugo bike?
@RunPlayBack
@RunPlayBack 4 жыл бұрын
That's a great point and I definitely thought about that a lot. But what really made me choose the Z1 was the frame. I'm a short dude (5'5") and there really hasn't been a bike frame that I ever really loved until I tried the Z1. The stock parts are really fine for my needs but what made this particularly project interesting for me was that there was a large community of Z1 modders that I could share this build with. It's really in my DNA to mod and customize things that I own and so even if I chose an S2 or a Zugo I'd be modding the hell out of that and someone would ask, "why didn't you just buy an Onyx or a Suron?". So that's a really long answer but essentially I knew I would be dumping some cash into modding so I figured the cheapest Super73 model would be a good starting point.
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